Exploiting a tragedy and the children in order to control the masses.
I so hate it, when progressives try to insult my intelligence. I know these fools try to exploit any person or tragedy in order to promote their political agenda of controlling of the masses, I get that. What somewhat shocks me even to this day is just how low progressives will stoop in order to accomplish their goal. I wrote a few hours after the Sandy Hook massacre tragedy happened that it wouldn't be long before Democratic politicians and their media allies would be using the tragedy as a political weapon in which to push for gun control. Speaking of gun control, is it me or has the terminology been changed by the Democrats and the media? The narrative a few days after Sandy Hook by Democratic politicians and the media was about "gun control" has recently abruptly been removed and replaced with the catch phrase of stopping "gun violence". Again, they can't fool people who know them better then they know themselves. Here's a question. What do Elementary School kids know about politics and guns? Most of you would probably say very little. If you said that, you all would be right. Little kids know about playing and having fun. Well apparently, there is one super sophisticated fourth grade little girl who attends a school in Newtown but didn't belong to Sandy Hook Elementary who supposedly wrote a letter to Obama after the tragedy. I'm not a genius, but I'm nobody's fool either. This is the supposed letter that this ten year old girl wrote to Obama.
" What everyone in Newtown wants, is for you to ban semi-automatic weapons and large capacity magazines and to make everyone get gun safes. This is important so that a person cannot shoot many at once, and/or injure people badly. This ban will prevent individuals, families, and communities from suffering the way we have in Newtown."
Call me skeptical or even cynical, but I seriously doubt that any 4th grader in Elementary school knows what a "semi-automatic" weapon is or what high ccapacity clips are.I refuse to let anyone blow smoke up my ass Obviously a child did NOT write this letter to Obama. Like with everything with progressives, this was staged by the mother who is a Democratic operative working in conjunction with the White House. Well this uber smart 4th graders and her mother are going to be "wait for it" guests of Nancy Pelosi at Obama State Of The Union address Tuesday night. Democrats are going through great measures to keep the identity of the mother secret for some reason. Maybe they are afraid of once again being exposed for the frauds they are. It pretty predictable what's going to happen at the SOTU address. As Obama gives his drawn out dribble about how guns are bad, icky and nasty, his friends in the media covering their hero will pan their video cameras over at the 4th grader on cue (who didn't attended Sandy Hook) in order to try and create an emotional attachment between the 4th grader and the viewing audience. With the country basically split down the middle, the only people who are going to be watching and are actually going to buy into his show are going to be Obama's base of supporters anyways. The reality is that any gun control legislation that will be introduced into congress has a snowball's chance in a furnace of passing the house or even the senate. With the 2014 midterms next year, not many Democratic politicians who holds office red or even swing states are going to commit political suicide by going along with Nancy Pelosi or Barbara Boxer and other Democrats in safe uber blue states or districts. As for any Republican who might think about supporting any gun control bill, they have to keep in mind that their opponent in the primaries will use their support of a ban as a weapon against them. Time for the progressive's exploitation of a minor and the political theatrics of Obama's SOTU address to begin.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 10:20 AM
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Adam Carolla made a great point that school shootings in Chicago are being ignored by gun control advocates, but for some reason Sandy Hook gets jumped all over for some reason: Adam Carolla Slams Gun Control Advocates for Ignoring Chicago's Sandy Hook-level Gun Deaths
Apparently, 260 School Children were killed in the last 3 years, but Obama shed no tears for them. I somehow doubt his buddy, now mayor of Chi-town, Rahm Emanuel, shed any tears either.
I guess since Chicago has such strict gun laws, this flies in the face of the gun control policies they're trying to push now, while exploiting Sandy Hook.
Liberals are such an annoyance. They demand gun control, but make excuses for criminals with guns and vilify the law-abiding citizen who have permit to carry a gun.
They demonize the police for shooting violent criminals and calling them rogue and corrupt. However, in recent events, the rogue Los Angeles police officer turned murderer Christopher Dorner who's been on the run, I cannot believe the outpouring of support for him on Facebook. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton (no surprises, there), and Charlie (Coke-Head) Sheen offer his support. These people are sick!
If it were not for the police, I wonder if they would change their tune if they were a victim of a violent crime?
If they did not have a gun as a law-abiding citizen, would they wish that they had one to protect themselves from violent criminals?
-Big Pop
How about another problem, we have a culture now that glorifies criminality as if it is some kind of badge of honor. We have a set of political hacks who think that sending a violent criminal to prison which only amounts to a time out with all you can lift weights yet they act clueless when the misfit acts out again after early release. They ditched the Cosby show and put on all my baby mamas or other such drivel and then cram that down everyone's throat as that is as good as life is for you. Sounds like someone with an agenda and it is not an uplifting agenda but someone purposely manufacturing problems for cheap political gain. Hiding behind children like this has just made the name of the game painfully obvious for those who have been keeping a scorecard of these kind of political antics by the left.
Anon;" Adam Carolla Slams Gun Control Advocates for Ignoring Chicago's Sandy Hook-level Gun Deaths".
Wow! It think that's just great! Adam Carolla is speaking out against the violence in Chicago. Who would have thunk it?! So now Carolla, Father Pfleger and Jesse Jackson can work together to stop the gang violence. Hey, maybe Carolla can go to the South Side and work the neighborhood local gangs and teach them some "comedy skills." ....yeah right...
The fact is that gun violence in Chicago is nothing new. When something happens like a "Newtown" or an "Aurora", suddenly Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, etc... become relative scapegoats.
Okay, can anyone tell me, what's the difference between the shooters and those who died in Newtown and Aurora, and the shooters and those who die in Chicago? The truth is this; THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE! THEY ARE ALL AMERICANS!
Yet you have assholes like Adam Carolla that see's blacks killing blacks as being "ignored" by gun control advocates. Clearly, Adam Carolla is not a monetary, active advocate, or physical supporter of any type of "anti-violence" efforts in Chicago or anywhere else. Carolla's response is the epitome of using "tragedy as a prop" to support his point of view. Since 2003, the Joyce Foundation of Chicago has paid grants totaling over $12 million to gun control organizations. Some might call the Joyce Foundation's activism extreme. Call them what ever you like, but unlike Carolla, they are at the forefront of trying to prevent gun violence.
Tyrone, if you wanted to advocate for a prevent "Blogger" from removing your blog from their server (for some unsaid hypothetical reason), would you;
a. seek out support from the local dog catcher.
or,
b. seek out other bloggers to support your cause.
The family members and friends who invited to attend the SOTU already had a message they wanted to send. They needed no coercing or prompting. The very simple answer to your question of these people being used as props, is simply to consider that, THERE ARE NO BETTER ADVOCATES FOR GUN CONTROL THAN PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST LOVED ONE'S TO GUN VIOLENCE. Calling the American citizens that have lost loved one's to gun violence is pathetic, low brow and just downright disrespectful. These people are simply the "messengers", not the creators of the message.
P.Allen: Carolla's response is the epitome of using "tragedy as a prop" to support his point of view.
And Obama isn't doing that either? LO-fucking-L
Since 2003, the Joyce Foundation of Chicago has paid grants totaling over $12 million to gun control organizations.
Seems like money well-spent, hmmm?
And those heavy gun control laws in Chicago are doing such a great job!
Political and governmental views of people under 18 are usually from parents or guardians.By age 24they still know little. Until a person has navigated their own life, and searched their own facts, they don't know what they believe. The emotional, manipulative use of children to advance a political agenda - by any political party - is despicable.
Abusus non tollit usum
p allen "Wow! It think that's just great! Adam Carolla is speaking out against the violence in Chicago. Who would have thunk it?! So now Carolla, Father Pfleger and Jesse Jackson can work together to stop the gang violence. Hey, maybe Carolla can go to the South Side and work the neighborhood local gangs and teach them some "comedy skills." ....yeah right..."
It's progressives who are harping on the now bastardized term "gun violence". If progressives care so much about "gun violence" why don't they start in one of their own progressive Democratic utopias such as Chicago allen? Interesting though that most of the gun crimes are committed in Democratic progressive utopias like Detroit, Baltimore, Washington DC, Los Angeles, New Orleans, Flint Michigan, Richmond, Philadelphia etc etc etc. Also, the gun crimes that happen in the cities that I've mentioned, the criminals aren't using "assault style weapons". The crimes are being committed with "hand guns". In the over 500 murders in Chicago last year, how many "Bushmasters" were used?
p allen "
The fact is that gun violence in Chicago is nothing new. When something happens like a "Newtown" or an "Aurora", suddenly Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, etc... become relative scapegoats. "
Scapegoats? lol The truth sucks I know allen, deal with it. How many mass shooting happen a year allen? Let's take Chicago and Baltimore. If you combine the homicide figures of both cities from last year, the total people killed was around 720 I believe give or take. How many people were killed in the Sandy Hook massacre? It was 27 people allen. If Sandy Hook never happened, the 720 people killed in Chicago and Baltimore would just be another story to you progressives. In the 720 murders in these two cities, again how many were murders were due to "assault style weapons" allen? Ah, ZERO.
p allen "Okay, can anyone tell me, what's the difference between the shooters and those who died in Newtown and Aurora, and the shooters and those who die in Chicago? The truth is this; THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE! THEY ARE ALL AMERICANS!"
They were all Americans? Wow, nothing slips past you allen. I thought they all might have been one legged cyclops from the planet Utari or something. Thanks for clearing that up.
p allen " Some might call the Joyce Foundation's activism extreme. Call them what ever you like, but unlike Carolla, they are at the forefront of trying to prevent gun violence."
Well maybe they should not be at the "forefront", because Chicago had over 500 murders last year, so they are doing a sucky job at best it appears. Her's an idea worth examining. How about getting tough on criminals and repeat offenders who use guns instead? SHOCKING CONCEPT!!!!
p allen "The family members and friends who invited to attend the SOTU already had a message they wanted to send. They needed no coercing or prompting."
Riiggghhtt!;-) and you more then likely belive that a ten year old girl wrote that letter to Dear Leader right? lol Since you say that they were invited because "they had a story to tell", I say fine, but fair is fair. Members of the GOP should have invited family members who used guns to save the lives of other family members or people who used guns to defend themselves. Hey maybe a little girl should have been able to sit with Boehner after writing him about how guns defend good people, what do you think? ;-)
Gratz Brown "Political and governmental views of people under 18 are usually from parents or guardians.By age 24they still know little. Until a person has navigated their own life, and searched their own facts, they don't know what they believe. The emotional, manipulative use of children to advance a political agenda - by any political party - is despicable."
Exactly, thank you Gratz for seeing what this was all about. A 10 year old child knows nothing about a semi automatic weapon nor what a high capacity clip is. It is utterly despicable for politicians to use children as political props in order to promote their agenda. It's different if the agenda has to do with education or children's health.
Big Mouth "How about another problem, we have a culture now that glorifies criminality as if it is some kind of badge of honor."
Perfect example is how leftists were celebrating the LAPD Cop Killer Chris Dorner. The culture in this country is definitely on the down swing of moral decay.
There is even an Exonerate Christopher Dorner petition and it already has 99,000 signatures
Politicians using children for political agendas is just as cowardly as Islamic terrorists using women and children as human shields.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis
When gun control advocates call out brady who was shot with a pistol as the poster child for banning assault weapons.
CB;"It's progressives who are harping on the now bastardized term "gun violence". If progressives care so much about "gun violence" why don't they start in one of their own progressive Democratic utopias such as Chicago allen?".
DUUUUUUUHHH? Didn't I just show you a "PROGRESSIVE" group (The Joyce Foundation) that's putting their money where their mouth is? You already know that there are dozens if not hundreds of progressive groups that are speaking out and working daily in a hard fought effort to battle the gun violence in American cities. Liberals and progressives using the gun violence issue to promote gun control, is nothing new. Moreover, it's THE OBVIOUS REACTION!
The question is, can you name me "ONE CONSERVATIVE" group, JUST ONE, that is active in any major city, that is working with police or a neighborhood organization, and are assisting to stop, quell, or reduce the number of gun related deaths? Name just one. I know of a "non-partisan" group. But a "conservative" organization promoting gun control...? I've never heard of...
The fact is...YOU CANT, because there are none. Conservative groups and pundits only mention "urban violence and crime" for the purpose of patronizing and condescension. FACT: Liberal/progressive groups have for years fought for tougher gun laws. FACT: Conservatives fight back against these laws.
You've got to be awful stupid to think you can shame a group like Mothers Against Gun Violence as being "pawns" or being used by politicians, when THAT'S WHAT THESE GROUPS WANT! They want the politicians to "use" them. It's called POLITICS!
CB;"Scapegoats? lol The truth sucks I know allen, deal with it".
Yeah the truth (in this case) does indeed "suck." It sucks that you would align yourself with conservatives that use the tragedy of young black's killing other black's as fodder for their fears that "the government want's to take their guns away." As I said, there are NO, ZERO, ZIPPO, NONE conservative groups that have thrown their hat in the ring to help prevent this violence. Yet, these same conservatives have the audacity to question if "progressives" care?? Puh-leeeeezzzz.....
CB;" It is utterly despicable for politicians to use children as political props in order to promote their agenda. It's different if the agenda has to do with education or children's health".
As if gun violence has nothing to do with children's health?? As if the children who weren't killed in the Newtown school weren't traumatized?? As if the children's education wasn't effected?
You folks have taken your hatred for progressives (and the president) over the edge! The children are what matters here. They are not "props" or scapegoats. The children are the reason the gun control supporters political efforts. If you want to say the children are being "used", that fine. However, the reason they are being used is because IT'S ABOUT THEM AND THEIR SAFETY!
To prove my point Tyrone, how can your point be "different", when you're not even an advocate for public education??? Hell, due to some crazed right-wing idea of children being "indoctrinated", you were against allowing school children to listen to the President of the United States give a simple "back to school speech." Thus, when the president was telling kids to "do good in school, study hard, become a productive citizen, etc..., you and your conservative haters allies created idiotic ways to attack his message.
And don't get me started on Health Care. As you know, millions of children who had no coverage are now covered under Obama Care.
So I'm not buying your idea of a "difference if the agenda has to do with education or children's health." You put that line in there simply to "patronize." You don't support public education, and you damn sure don't support the government supplying Health Care to children... or anyone else for that matter.
Gratz Brown;"Until a person has navigated their own life, and searched their own facts, they don't know what they believe".
Very true! That exactly why you believe the grieving Sandy Hook families and their children are props. Unfortunately, you just don't know any better.
God forbid that a tragedy such as Sandy Hook would ever strike your family. Let me be clear that I would never hope that would happen to you or anyone else. However, if it did I'm sure you would seek support from your church pastor, friends, or local/state of national politicians. Now, try to use some common sense and answer this question; How would you feel if you appeared in public after the tragedy accompanied by, lets say, your pastor, and someone said he was using you as a "prop?" Moreover, the pastor invites your other children, and your friends and neighbors called them "props?"
I don't even think it's fair (or make sense) to call most people who appear with politicians "props." If a person believes in what they're advocating, how can the be a prop? If I believe that the government should provide universal health care, and I appear along side a politician that's promoting health care legislation, how am I a prop?
Just to show you how "stupid" some conservative gun advocates can be, Ted Nugent was invite by Rep. Steve Stockman (R-TX) to attend the State of the Union address. Nugent said this;
"“We know that the president will have the state of the union stacked and jammed with props, children, and victims of violent crime".
DUUUUUUHHH??? Ted, if the people the White House invited were "props", what does that make you?? What an idiot!!
The point is, Nugent believes in what he believes. He's no different that the "children and victims of violent crime" are... he's an ADVOCATE!
How many of the 76,000 instacheck gun buyers DENIED a weapon were prosecuted?
mmmmm....
44
Hows THAT. for law enforcement as a deterrent to crime?
I did NOT say "the use of children" is bad. What I said was "the emotional, manipulative use of children ... is despicable." For example, 12 year olds speaking at a national political convention, is abuse, and despicable. What the children think they politically "believe" at age 12 may be just the opposite when they are age 32.
Gratz Brown "I did NOT say "the use of children" is bad. What I said was "the emotional, manipulative use of children ... is despicable." For example, 12 year olds speaking at a national political convention, is abuse, and despicable. What the children think they politically "believe" at age 12 may be just the opposite when they are age 32."
A person has to be 18 years old in order to be able to vote, yet according to enlightened progressives a 12 year old is mature enough to speak on political matters. Well they are mature enough if the 12 year old supports their views of course Gratz.
p allen "
Very true! That exactly why you believe the grieving Sandy Hook families and their children are props. Unfortunately, you just don't know any better."
Sit down allen. You are so full of it. If mothers who are pro life brought their children at the request of a pro life Senator or congressperson during the SOTU speech by a pro life republican president you would not find that acceptable and you know it. Gratz is absolutely correct.
p allen "God forbid that a tragedy such as Sandy Hook would ever strike your family. Let me be clear that I would never hope that would happen to you or anyone else. However, if it did I'm sure you would seek support from your church pastor, friends, or local/state of national politicians. Now, try to use some common sense and answer this question; How would you feel if you appeared in public after the tragedy accompanied by, lets say, your pastor, and someone said he was using you as a "prop?" Moreover, the pastor invites your other children, and your friends and neighbors called them "props?"
If it was someone who I knew personally was killed at Sandy Hook like say a sibling or other family member,there would be no need for me to go to be a quest of a congress person to be a prop on guns, because I wouldn't go. I would be smart enough to place the blame on the nut case who used a gun to kill my loved one not the gun itself allen. Furthermore, since I am not an expert on psychiatric care, that is another reason I wouldn't go.
p allen "As if gun violence has nothing to do with children's health?? As if the children who weren't killed in the Newtown school weren't traumatized?? As if the children's education wasn't effected? "
Think allen. Was it the gun that traumatized the students or was it the nutcase who used the gun who traumatized the students? Again, guns can't do anything by themselves.
p allen "You folks have taken your hatred for progressives (and the president) over the edge!"
Whatever allen, I'm sure you and other progressives just flat out loved George Bush and conservatives right? If you want to talk about taking hatered over the edge, we can always talk about the left's seething hatred of Palin if you like which makes the right's dislike for Obama look very very tame at best.
p allen "The children are what matters here."
They matter just long enough for a photo op you mean right?
p allen "They are not "props" or scapegoats. The children are the reason the gun control supporters political efforts."
Keep believing your own crap allen. The overwhelming majority of people either injured or killed by being shot by a gun are "ADULTS" not children, try again.
p allen "If you want to say the children are being "used", that fine. However, the reason they are being used is because IT'S ABOUT THEM AND THEIR SAFETY!"
lol lol lol lol lol lol, this is being done for their safety MY ASS!!! If this is truly being done for their safety, why are they going after lawful citizens who have no intention of ever using their guns on children then allen? Are law biding citizens a threat to children allen? Is that what you are saying? lol
p allen "And don't get me started on Health Care. As you know, millions of children who had no coverage are now covered under Obama Care."
Really? Furthermore allen, children have always had access to healthcare just like adults. That's the biggest distortion progressives have been using in trying to sell the notion of why single pay and Obamacare is needed.
p allen " You don't support public education, and you damn sure don't support the government supplying Health Care to children... or anyone else for that matter."
Go cry a river allen. No I do not support public indoctrination and illiteracy aka public education. You say that you are a public educator(shaking my head in laughter)in Detriot, tell me and other readers, what are the graduation and literacy rates from the Detroit Public School System? As for your comment about me not not wanting "the government supplying healthcare", you're dam right I don't. The government isn't in the business of supplying healthcare. Doctors are in the business of supplying healthcare. The government is in the business of messing up everything it gets its testicles on in the name of "helping us". The government turning a cutting edge healthcare system into a rationed socialist style system is good how exactly?
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