Thursday, February 05, 2009

Did David Duke's outburst against Michael Steele actually help Steele's image among the mainstream media?

The mainstream media hasn't come out and said anything negative about Michael Steele's election to the RNC Chairman position. That is a surprise. When David Duke made his now semi famous remarks about Steele being a "racist" and "Obama Jr.", it was fascinating watching the mainstream media attack David Duke in defense of Michael Steele. The MSM has never shied away from promoting their stereotype of what they believe a "typical republican or conservative" is. I was prepared for the MSM to go into a racially discredit Steele mode but it didn't happen, the opposite actually happened. This is the same MSM that tried to decapitate Governor Palin's reputation within the first ten minutes of her being announced by McCain last year. This is a Rachel Maddow on MSNBC actually congratulating Michael Steele on his historic election while also ripping David Duke to threads in an actually funny manner. Could it be possible that Michael Steele has earned "credibility" among the mainstream media thanks to David Duke's attack? It does sound odd I have to admit.



This is Keith Olberman also of MSNBC going after David Duke for his attacks on Michael Steele.He actually took the "gold" in Olberman's "world's worst" list. I never thought I would see the day that liberals in the media would actually stick up for a black conservative Republican. Now I have seen almost everything.

8 Comments:

Blogger p. anthony allen said...

CB;"I was prepared for the MSM to go into a racially discredit Steele mode but it didn't happen, the opposite actually happened."

You expected the "MSM" to attack Steele because he's Black???

Wait a minute.... Wasn't it conservatives (Limbaugh, Savage, Coulter, and that ilk)who said that you can't attack Obama because he's Black? Yet, you expected that Steele "would" be attacked because he's Black?? So, did the "conservative" media and pundits attack Obama because he is Black?

As I stated earlier, Micheal Steele is a honest "stand-up" guy. It's silly to think that the "MSM" would go after him because of his race...

The "real" racist has shown his true colors in all of this. For Daivd Duke it doesn't matter if the Black candidate/politician is a Democrat, Republican, Independent... whatever! To Duke and those of his ilk, race is "the only thing that matters"! It just so happens that Duke is a Republican....

It's highly likely that his tirade has cemented GOP support for Steele. But, I'm going to wait and see who are these "millions" of rank-and-file Republican supporters he was referring to.

8:39 PM  
Blogger conservative brother said...

P Allen "You expected the "MSM" to attack Steele because he's Black???"


No allen. I expected them to attack Steele because he is a BLACK REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVE,that's why

P Allen "Wait a minute.... Wasn't it conservatives (Limbaugh, Savage, Coulter, and that ilk)who said that you can't attack Obama because he's Black? Yet, you expected that Steele "would" be attacked because he's Black?? So, did the "conservative" media and pundits attack Obama because he is Black?"

The mainstream media has two distinct standards allen. Black LIBERALS like little Barry are treated like gold. Black CONSERVATIVES are normally marginalized and dismissed. If Steele or Keyes was President right now, the slavish slobbering over them would be non existent.

P Allen "As I stated earlier, Micheal Steele is a honest "stand-up" guy. It's silly to think that the "MSM" would go after him because of his race..."

You have a lot to learn about the media allen, That's all I can say.

p allen "The "real" racist has shown his true colors in all of this. For Daivd Duke it doesn't matter if the Black candidate/politician is a Democrat, Republican, Independent... whatever! To Duke and those of his ilk, race is "the only thing that matters"! It just so happens that Duke is a Republican...."

Actually allen, Duke and black liberals have a lot in common. Race is the only thing they see. They look through race colored glasses from the moment they wake up to the time they goto sleep. It's two sides to the same race minted coin.

p allen "It's highly likely that his tirade has cemented GOP support for Steele. But, I'm going to wait and see who are these "millions" of rank-and-file Republican supporters he was referring to."

If Steele governs the party as a true conservative, they will love him. Duke has no credibility in any of the prominent conservative think thanks or grass root organizations. The millions of supporters that will follow him only exist in his mind.

9:21 PM  
Blogger p. anthony allen said...

CB;"No allen. I expected them to attack Steele because he is a BLACK REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVE,that's why"

Fine! Nevertheless, you were still wrong! That just leaves "conservatives" that attack BLACK LIBERAL DEMOCRATS!

CB;"The mainstream media has two distinct standards allen. Black LIBERALS like little Barry are treated like gold. Black CONSERVATIVES are, etc..."

All media has become "mainstream" Tyrone. The so-called "mainstream media" is merely a label which conservatives have pinned on media outlets that don't broadcast their point of view. Frankly, there's more than enough "love and hate" to go around....from both, and all sides.

CB;"You have a lot to learn about the media allen, That's all I can say."

Would that be the same "media" we both read and listen to, or some "new" form of media only you can hear and see?

CB;"Duke has no credibility in any of the prominent conservative think thanks or grass root organizations. The millions of supporters that will follow him only exist in his mind."

None that I know of "openly" support him. Yet, he received over 600,000 votes in his run for United States Senator in 1990, and almost 500,000 in his run for Governor of Louisiana in 1991. Perhaps they are the "rank-in-file" Republicans he's talking about.

CB;"Actually allen, Duke and black liberals have a lot in common. Race is the only thing they see. They look through race colored glasses from the moment they wake up to the time they goto sleep. It's two sides to the same race minted coin."

Tyrone, do you realize that Duke said basically the same thing about Steele? So in essence, it is actually "YOU" and Duke who have a lot in common. Hell, both of you have called "Blacks (or a Black person) racist"!! And still you can't see the difference.

David Duke's idea of a "prosperous" and fruitful America is to have you (as a Black person) and all other non-Whites, delegated to second class citizenry. Duke preaches the idea that America belongs to those of European descent and that minorities are inferior to Whites. Moreover, Duke wants to return to those days when segregation was the law of the land. He makes no bones about it.

For some strange reason, you believe that "Black Liberals" have a commonality with White supremacists, when David Duke himself believes (or realizes) that he has more in common with the views of the Republican party.

Black liberals are not in the business of creating an America separated by race. Black liberals are not of the mindset that Whites are an inferior race. Black liberals are not preaching that Whites should be separate in schools and business. Black Liberals CANNOT get elected to state office (or any other office) as David Duke has been, by spouting to their constituency "the evil Jew", or "the shiftless, slothful Whites." It just won't happen!!!!

Your interpretation and comparison of "Liberal Blacks" to the idea's of a David Duke is littered with inconsistencies and contradictions. This Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Jesse Peterson political mantra of comparing "liberal Blacks" to David Duke and the KKK is ridiculous.

That's exactly why Duke attacked Steele as a "Black racist." He learned the tactic from those in his own party....

8:46 AM  
Blogger conservative brother said...

p allen "Fine! Nevertheless, you were still wrong! That just leaves "conservatives" that attack BLACK LIBERAL DEMOCRATS!"

Wrong allen. Conservatives attack liberals based on their ideology. Conservatives don't attack BLACK LIBERAL DEMOCRATS BASED ON RACE. Black and White liberal Democrats are the ones calling BLACK CONSERVATIVES AND REPUBLICANS racial slurs allen. You know I'm right, so stop pretending. I have never heard a conservative call a black liberal Democrat an "oreo" before. Have you allen?

P Allen "All media has become "mainstream" Tyrone. The so-called "mainstream media" is merely a label which conservatives have pinned on media outlets that don't broadcast their point of view. Frankly, there's more than enough "love and hate" to go around....from both, and all sides."

How freaking blind are you allen? I posted two months ago the video of Chris Mathews saying in his own words

"It's his job is make sure that Obama succeeds".

I posted the stories of the Washington Post and Time magazine admitting their coverage of Obama was in his favor and against McCain and Palin. I have presented fact after fact after fact after fact, yet you still refuse to open those two things in your skull called EYES allen. That's on you allen.

P Allen "Would that be the same "media" we both read and listen to, or some "new" form of media only you can hear and see?"

Let's put this too the test allen. I can name 15 negative stories that the media did on Sarah Palin, and I can name two. Can you name me five negative stories that the media did on Barack Obama during the campaign excluding Jeremiah Wright.

p allen "None that I know of "openly" support him. Yet, he received over 600,000 votes in his run for United States Senator in 1990, and almost 500,000 in his run for Governor of Louisiana in 1991. Perhaps they are the "rank-in-file" Republicans he's talking about.

That was 18 years ago. It doesn't matter, they are irrelevant in 2009

p allen "Tyrone, do you realize that Duke said basically the same thing about Steele? So in essence, it is actually "YOU" and Duke who have a lot in common. Hell, both of you have called "Blacks (or a Black person) racist"!! And still you can't see the difference."

I believe I said that much allen. Me and Duke aren't support Affirmative Action, but that is where the "similarities" end. Duke doesn't want Steele as the RNC Chairman, I have no problem with him being it, and I also support Steele in the job. I understand perfectly what you are saying allen. Wrong is wrong allen regardless. Two wrongs do not make a right. Discriminating against one group in favor of another group as a way of "balance" is still wrong period.

p allen "David Duke's idea of a "prosperous" and fruitful America is to have you (as a Black person) and all other non-Whites, delegated to second class citizenry. Duke preaches the idea that America belongs to those of European descent and that minorities are inferior to Whites. Moreover, Duke wants to return to those days when segregation was the law of the land. He makes no bones about it."


It doesn't matter what David Duke wants. With the election of Steele, he obviously didn't get what he wanted allen. As I said earlier, Duke is a outdated relic of a bygone error. Our society has advanced greatly since his time and it won't go back.

p allen "For some strange reason, you believe that "Black Liberals" have a commonality with White supremacists, when David Duke himself believes (or realizes) that he has more in common with the views of the Republican party."

Funny how you added the word "supremacist"allen when I said no such thing. There are black liberal racists in the Democrat party that don't like whites, Jews, Asians and Hispanics. It is what it is allen. Do you think that the New Black Panthers are card carrying Republicans allen? Maybe I missed something.

P Allen "Your interpretation and comparison of "Liberal Blacks" to the idea's of a David Duke is littered with inconsistencies and contradictions. This Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Jesse Peterson political mantra of comparing "liberal Blacks" to David Duke and the KKK is ridiculous."

It ceases being "ridiculous" when facts are presented to prove otherwise allen like I did. Here's a simple question for you allen. Lets say David Duke started a church. In his church he had something called the "white value system". Are you following me so far allen? Among the values are the following

1.Commitment to the White Race

2. Commitment to the White work ethic

3. Commitment to the White Family

4. An unapologetic support of Europe

Would you consider that example to be "racist"? If you do, then what if the roles were reversed allen?

P Allen ". Black liberals are not preaching that Whites should be separate in schools and business. Black Liberals CANNOT get elected to state office (or any other office) as David Duke has been, by spouting to their constituency "the evil Jew", or "the shiftless, slothful Whites." It just won't happen!!!!"

Gee your out of touch allen!!! What do you think the "congressional BLACK caucus" is all about? They won't let any "non black " person into their group. If a group of white congress people would have created the "congressional WHITE caucus", there would have been a crap storm over it. In both cases they are wrong. There should be no caucuses based on race period. I will list more examples later allen. You have no leg in which to stand on.

p allen "Black liberals are not in the business of creating an America separated by race."

They are in the business of believing that whites are lurking around the corner every moment trying to find some new ingenious way of of "keeping them down". Why is it you never hear black conservatives talk about racism as much as black liberals? That is a very telling question allen. Race, racism, or the perception of racism doesn't control my thinking as a conservative like it does for black liberals 24/7.
That is why I never got caught up in the whole "historic" thing over Obama. It's great to be able to think with a leveled head.


P Allen "Black liberals are not of the mindset that Whites are an inferior race. Black liberals are not preaching that Whites should be separate in schools and business."

There are black liberals that want to segregate from the rest of society that is non black. I notice how you keep going back to the supremacist argument when none was made. I said blacks see themselves as VICTIMS allen of whites. I don't know where you got the idea that I said blacks think whites are inferior. You seriously need to lay off the Obama heroine. It's messing with your brain more now then before.

P Allen "Black Liberals CANNOT get elected to state office (or any other office) as David Duke has been, by spouting to their constituency "the evil Jew", or "the shiftless, slothful Whites." "


Oh really allen? Does the names
"Cynthia McKinney, Maxine Waters, Bobby Rush ring a bell? Research allen, what have I told you about doing it?


p allen "It just won't happen!!!!""

I just proved other wise, thanks for playing lol

6:42 PM  
Blogger p. anthony allen said...

CB;"Conservatives don't attack BLACK LIBERAL DEMOCRATS BASED ON RACE. Black and White liberal Democrats are the ones calling BLACK CONSERVATIVES AND REPUBLICANS racial slurs allen. You know I'm right, so stop pretending."

I know you're WRONG! The problem here is as usual.... you won't admit it, you ignore it, you condone it, you don't care, or you just don't know it!

John McLaughlin is a lifelong Republican and call's himself a "conservative".

A Republican Newsletter highly touted as the "conservative" point of view.

Bush's Justice Department John Turner's comments about Mary Frances Berry style coffee, "black and bitter.” Senator George Allen's (no relation) "macaca" remark. Buchanan, VA. County Republican Party Chair, Bobby May's depiction of a "Black" presidential administration. Shall I go on?

It happens on BOTH SIDES Tyrone. You're drinking conservative "kool-aid" now, aren't you?

CB;"How freaking blind are you allen? I posted two months ago the video of Chris Mathews saying in his own words

"It's his job is make sure that Obama succeeds".


It's 20/20 Tyrone... And my peripheral vision is even better. It's so good that I have to point out to you that you just posted an essay about a "COMMENTATOR" (just as Matthews is) that stated in his own words;

"I hope he (Obama)FAILS!"

Two media commentators, offering opposite positions about the same president and about the same subject, both from different media outlets.

I said;
The so-called "mainstream media" is merely a label which conservatives have pinned on media outlets that don't broadcast their point of view. Frankly, there's more than enough "love and hate" to go around....from both, and all sides.

And you ask me am I blind?? Gee whiz Tyrone, I must be right...your still reeling from the November election loss...

CB;"Let's put this too the test allen. I can name 15 negative stories that the media did on Sarah Palin, and I can name two. Can you name me five negative stories that the media did on Barack Obama during the campaign excluding Jeremiah Wright."

Tony Rezco, Bill Ayers, attended a madrassa, Ludicris, Illegal Aunt, Kenyan half brother living on $5.00 a month, San Fransisco clinging to guns remark, Joe the Plumber, Terrorist Fist Bump, Michelle Obama's comments... All were "negative stories about Obama. However, you should note that all of those stories (except the madrassa story which was a lie) have nothing to do with anything illegal or unethical on Obama's part. So how were the Republicans able to attack him on these "negative" media stories??? Oh, that's right...It was Obama's "poor judgment."

Yeah, he knew Rev. Wright for twenty years, and even became a member of his church. Yet, for the course of those twenty years in the public eye, the "conservative media" wasn't able to find ONE sound bite where Obama said anything close to Wrights views. Twenty years "paling around" with Ayers the Terrorist, and not one picture of the two together. His wife says "for the first time I'm proud to be an American", and the conservative media turns her into an American hating "angry black female" (a phrase that was obviously coined by "white" conservatives).

CB;"Gee your out of touch allen!!! What do you think the "congressional BLACK caucus" is all about?"

The same thing the National Black Republican Association is about...
Perhaps "Project 21", who's members are all Black conservatives. But from what I heard and read it's white conservatives from the National Center for Public Policy running the show.

CB;"I don't know where you got the idea that I said blacks think whites are inferior."

You didn't, yet that's exactly my point! That is the "crux" of the issue here.

You believe that all Americans of all races are "equal", right? David Duke and those of his ilk believe that "Whites" are the superior race. But you equate the Black Caucus as being no different that Duke and his Klan. So, WHERE, WHEN, AND HOW DID THE BLACK CAUCUS INDICATE THAT BLACKS ARE SUPERIOR TO WHITES????

Frankly, that goes to the core of your argument. The two cannot be compared, and that's based on YOUR OWN BELIEFS! And yet, you equate them...It makes no sense...

CB;"Oh really allen? Does the names "Cynthia McKinney, Maxine Waters, Bobby Rush ring a bell? Research allen, what have I told you about doing it?"

More of your "conservative whitewashing, broad-brush, negative attack" fallacy Tyrone. If we all all equal as Americans, find were Rush, Waters or McKinney say that White's are inferior to Blacks.

Then read what "REPUBLICAN" David Duke has to say about "REPUBLICAN" Steele again. Duke use's the exact same argument as you. He call's Steele a racist because he holds certain political views (eg. supports Affirmative Action).

In recent years Duke has molded his rhetoric to appear as though he's advocating "Civil-Rights". His methods for attacking opposite points of views are the same methods used in the "REPUBLICAN PARTY" to attack the opposition.

1:28 PM  
Blogger conservative brother said...

Allen, you need to actually read your own links!!!!lol Let me school you for a moment.

CNN reports "McLaughlin said Obama "fits the stereotype blacks once labeled as an Oreo — a black on the outside, a white on the inside."

ATTENTION ALLEN "BLACK and WHITE LIBERALS STILL DO CALL BLACK REPUBLICANS AND CONSERVATIVES "OREOS"!!!DUH DUH AND DUH!!!!

McLaughlin IS CORRECT in his statement. He didn't outright call Obama an Oreo, he said "Obama fits the STEREOTYPE BLACKS ONCE LABELED AS AN OREO"
You are seriously slipping!!


cNN REPORTS"Does it frost Jackson, Jesse Jackson, that…an Oreo should be the beneficiary of the long civil rights struggle which Jesse Jackson spent his lifetime fighting for?" McLaughlin asked his panelists."

He used the reference of OREO based of the reference that Jackson made about Obama allen!! Further more blacks do call other blacks that don't talk in ebonics or isn't "down" OREO'S or "trying to act white. The only thing that is "controversial" is that a white conservative said what black and white liberals have been saying. Weak try allen, really.

3:30 PM  
Blogger conservative brother said...

p allen "Bush's Justice Department John Turner's comments about Mary Frances Berry style coffee, "black and bitter.” Senator George Allen's (no relation) "macaca" remark. Buchanan, VA. County Republican Party Chair, Bobby May's depiction of a "Black" presidential administration. Shall I go on?"

First off what is a "macaca", and what does it have to do with a black person being a democrat liberal allen?

As for the Mary Frances Berry style coffee, "black and bitter reference. that joke was created by BLACK COMEDIANS!! I heard this joke line on comedy central years ago."I LIKE MY COFFEE LIKE I LIKE MY WOMEN. BLACK AND BITTER"!! You can't be possibly that far out of the loop allen. I have a friend that works at a comedy club here in Baltimore, I will find the exactly black comic that used that line. Once again the double standard is at play. The problem is that a white Republican used a line that was funny when a black liberal democrat used it. Forget about gong on allen, you need to back and get something to actually prove your point.
All you have is hypocritical half truths.

P Allen "The same thing the National Black Republican Association is about...
Perhaps "Project 21", who's members are all Black conservatives. But from what I heard and read it's white conservatives from the National Center for Public Policy running the show."

I don't know if that is true or not, nor do I care allen. I'm not a member of project 21. Maybe the National Center for Public Policy is assisting Project 21, I can find out if you need to know. I still don't see what this have to do with conservatives using racial slurs against blacks based on party affiliation allen. You need to refocus grass hopper.

P Allen "You believe that all Americans of all races are "equal", right?

God created all of us in his image. We are all equal in his eyes. Some people in society may not see it that way, but factually it is what it is allen. I believe in equality in the truest sense of the word.

P Allen "David Duke and those of his ilk believe that "Whites" are the superior race. But you equate the Black Caucus as being no different that Duke and his Klan. So, WHERE, WHEN, AND HOW DID THE BLACK CAUCUS INDICATE THAT BLACKS ARE SUPERIOR TO WHITES????"

I've already told you what I think of people like David Duke allen. They're is a different between being a "racist" and a "supremest". Duke is a white supremest. A person can be a racist and not a supremest. A black person can not like an Asians and still not think that blacks are "superior" to them allen. You say the CBC isn't a racist group right allen? Why do they refuse to let other racial groups join them? Even the NAACP when it still had importance had whites as members. CORE "Congress on Racial Equality" has whites as it's members. Barry Goldwater was a member of the Arizona chapter of the NAACP. So why is the CBC "DISCRIMINATING" allen?

4:01 PM  
Blogger p. anthony allen said...

CB;"cNN REPORTS"Does it frost Jackson, Jesse Jackson, that…an Oreo should be the beneficiary of the long civil rights struggle which Jesse Jackson spent his lifetime fighting for?" McLaughlin asked his panelists."

Jesse Jackson didn't use the term "Oreo", McLaughlin did. There have been occasions when some have posted here showing "frost" for your opinions. Would it have been okay if I referred to you as an "Oreo" even though the poster did not use the term?? Do you, "fit the stereotype blacks once labeled as an Oreo?"

And how about the Republican News letter? Is that "okay" also?

And John Turner's comments about Mary Frances Berry style coffee, "black and bitter" is "comedy?" Would it be funny if your wife worked there and he said the same?

CB;"First off what is a "macaca", and what does it have to do with a black person being a democrat liberal allen?"

So you don't know...

Macaca

And if you don't know the the George Allen story "google it"!

CB;"I still don't see what this have to do with conservatives using racial slurs against blacks based on party affiliation allen. You need to refocus grass hopper."

It doesn't...you said; "Gee your out of touch allen!!! What do you think the "congressional BLACK caucus" is all about?" So you asked, and I answered -they are no different from "conservative" political organizations! When you can snatch the pebble from my hand, it will be time for you to leave....

CB;"They're is a different between being a "racist" and a "supremest". Duke is a white supremest."

Tyrone... Puuhleeezzzz! Don't just make things up simply to prove a shallow idea. How in the "SAM HILL" can a supremacist not be a racist????

"I'm a White Supremacist that believe that all races are equal"

Just plain silly...

6:45 PM  

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