Friday, May 09, 2008

The Democrat racial divide Part 1

9-9-2008



It looks like we are witnessing a crackup in the Democrat Party along the lines of “race”. The verbal exchange between Paul Begala and Donna Brazile exposed several facts that I’ve stated many times already about the issue of race and the Democrat Party. Several months ago I stated that Barack Obama’s support was basically limited to blacks and former Ron Paul supporters. It’s nice that Paul Begala and other political pundits finally got up to speed figuring this out. I wouldn’t call the college aged Ron Paul supporters “eggheads” though. The word “egghead” implies a person has a certain level of intelligence, and Ron Paul supporters lacked that factor in droves. Obama supporters are living in a dreamland right now, but they can only turn a blind eye to the truth for so long. Ninety five percent of black Democrats have helped Obama win the primary states that have a large concentrated black population. Blacks couldn’t help Obama win the most populous states like New York, California, Texas, Ohio, Pennsylvania etc. I find it very amusing that the one candidate that has the best chance of beating John McCain is being ignored and shunned by fellow Democrats. Hillary is trying to stop the Democrat Party from committing political suicide, but they don’t want to listen to her. What strikes me as odd is that Hillary Clinton is the person being looked down upon as the villain in the Democrat Party, yet she is actually their political heroine that can save it, yet they are so blind they can’t see it. Far be it for me to give Howard Dean and company advice on how to win elections, lol. This has to be the first time in political history that a major political party will sacrifice winning the presidency in order to please a voting block. I never said that liberal logic was supposed to make sense.

9 Comments:

Blogger Thuyen Tran said...

What are former Ron Paul supporters doing voting for Obama? Obama's politics are different from Paul. Yes, both opposed the war with Iraq. But even then with different political philosophies.

Also, Paul is strongly pro-life, while Obama is pro-abortion to the max.

I don't get why some would want to back Obama (or for that matter, Hilary or any other liberal).

9:32 AM  
Anonymous Chilerkle said...

Watching the liberal Democrats and leftists turn on each other would be a spectacle I wouldn't wanna miss for anything expect church.

Pass the popcorn and watch the aftermath of leftists duking it out with each other priceless.

5:37 PM  
Blogger p. anthony allen said...

RB says;"Ninety five percent of black Democrats have helped Obama win the primary states that have a large concentrated black population. Blacks couldn’t help Obama win the most populous states like New York, California, Texas, Ohio, Pennsylvania etc."

Yeah...but what about Washington, Idaho, Wyoming, Colorado, North Dakota, South Dakota, Iowa, Kansas, ect...? I don't believe there's to many Black votes in Maine either... Dont pretend it's just Blacks voting for Obama.

Fact is Blacks vote Democratic almost 10 to 1. It's only common sense that Blacks will vote for Obama in large numbers. Thats just the way it is...

RB suggests;"This has to be the first time in political history that a major political party will sacrifice winning the presidency in order to please a voting block."

Now that's just plain silly! Why would the party go against the will of the voters and pledged delegates? If "pleasing a voting bloc" were the case, the party officials could have picked Al Sharpton in 2004! Unless Obama is caught naked in bed with Rev. Wright, or some other crazy stunt, the voters/delegates choose the nominee.

In the coming months I expect to see more of Rev. Wright in GOP political ads than McCain himself. Rev. Wright is this presidential elections "Willie Horton" and a gift for the GOP. Their major hopes are that Wright, is a gift that keeps on giving, up until November.

3:00 AM  
Blogger conservative brother said...

thyuen tran"What are former Ron Paul supporters doing voting for Obama? Obama's politics are different from Paul. Yes, both opposed the war with Iraq. But even then with different political philosophies"

thuyen tran, they backed Ron Paul soley for his position of being against the Iraq War. He was the only candidate besides Dennis the Menace to take a solid unwavering position on removing the troops from Iraq immediately. The college kiddies developed a school girl crush on him for that.

chilerkle"Watching the liberal Democrats and leftists turn on each other would be a spectacle I wouldn't wanna miss for anything expect church"

lol, I agree chilerkle. It looks like Howard Dean and company are going to try and resolve florida and michigan prior to the convention. They still don' realize that the damage is done. Since Michigan and Florida won't have their votes counted, Obama is going to have a hard time winning those states in November.

9:17 AM  
Blogger conservative brother said...

P Allen"Yeah...but what about Washington, Idaho, Wyoming, Colorado, North Dakota, South Dakota, Iowa, Kansas, ect...? I don't believe there's to many Black votes in Maine either... Dont pretend it's just Blacks voting for Obama."

You left out two extremely important factors in that equation you are trying to frame Allen.Number one, did Obama win those state "pre jerimah wright" or "post jerimah wright"? Number two, how many of the state that have a mostly white population were "caucus states" and not "primary states", such as Iowa
I never said Obama didn't have support among whites once upon a time. My statement is what is that level of support in the here and now? Would those white Democrat voters still vote for Obama with everything that has recently come out? That is the real question Allen.

P Allen"Fact is Blacks vote Democratic almost 10 to 1. It's only common sense that Blacks will vote for Obama in large numbers. Thats just the way it is..."

Nice try Allen. They're were six or seven Democrat that started the primary cycle if I recall, and black solidly supported only 1 candidate out of 7 candidates allen. The 9 to 1 Democrat loyality block vote is only factored in the General Election against the Republican candidate. This is about the selection among other Democrats Allen. Why wasn't the black Democrat vote even remotely divided among the other Democrat candiates Allen? What was the support black support for Edwards, Biden, Richardson, Dodds, Clinton, etc? Be honest Allen. Black are saying that if whites don't vote for Obama, its because they racists. The telling thing about that kind of statements is Obama's black supporters just exposed the real reason why they are indeed voting for Obama in the first place. Its the color of his skin. I will restate it one more time. Obama and Clinton WEREN'T the only Democrat that were on the ballots when this thing began.

P Allen"Now that's just plain silly! Why would the party go against the will of the voters and pledged delegates? If "pleasing a voting bloc" were the case, the party officials could have picked Al Sharpton in 2004! Unless Obama is caught naked in bed with Rev. Wright, or some other crazy stunt, the voters/delegates choose the nominee"

I was pretty good in geography Allen. The last time I remember, there are 50 states that make up the United States of America. Yet the Democrat National Committe only wants to seat 48? The math is coming up 2 stats short Allen. The word "disinfranchisement" is such a proper word to describe this I believe. If I recall correctly, it was Barack who didn't want Florida and Michigan voters to have their voices heard. That should really go over well in November with them.

P Allen"In the coming months I expect to see more of Rev. Wright in GOP political ads than McCain himself. Rev. Wright is this presidential elections "Willie Horton" and a gift for the GOP. Their major hopes are that Wright, is a gift that keeps on giving, up until November."

It's far game Allen. Non black voters are are going to have to ask themselves eithier A) Did Barack Obama share Jerimah Wright, Louis Farahkan, the New Black Panathers, and William Ares views? or B) Does Barack Obama have a poor sense of determining a person's character? There is no in between or out answer. As for the Willie Horton ad, what exactly about that ad was "not factual" Allen? As for the use of "race in political ads, Democrats has more then their fare share of ads like that. In 1998, the Missouri Democratic Party ran this radio ad Allen

"When you don't vote, you let another "CHURCH EXPLODE. When you don't vote, you allow another "CROSS TO BURN". When you don't vote, you let another assault wound a brother or sister. When you don't vote, you let the Republicans continue to cut school lunches and Head Start."

Oh I have one more race based Democrat ad Allen, its another one from the missouri Democrat Party. About five years ago, they had a billboard that had an American flag in the background and a black man in the foreground, and the billboard read

"The Missouri Republicans have a plan, and your not apart of it".

Funny how Democrat want to point the finger of race baiting at the Republicans, yet they won't acknowledge their "outright blatten" race baiting Allen. Oh I got one more, two years ago, Hillary Clinton went into a black church a few years ago. While she was giving her speech to the all black congregation, she said the following
"The house is run like a PLANTATION, YOU ALL KNOW WHAT I MEAN"
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/01/17/clinton.plantation/index.html

Also, can't forget the race baiting ad the NAACP ran against Geroge Bush eight years ago.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3827/is_200011/ai_n8927120

10:05 AM  
Blogger Thuyen Tran said...

"thuyen tran, they backed Ron Paul soley for his position of being against the Iraq War. He was the only candidate besides Dennis the Menace to take a solid unwavering position on removing the troops from Iraq immediately. The college kiddies developed a school girl crush on him for that."

Yeah, til they find out his other views, that are traditional conservative, that they don't like.

At least he is consistent on the war.

What was Bill Clinton planning to do with Iraq before he left office?

Did ANY liberal called him out on that? LOL

10:27 AM  
Blogger Thuyen Tran said...

And as a Floridian, I can tell you if Obama wins, he is in for a resounding defeat in the state of Florida. Floridians, including Democrats, are outraged at what happened.

10:30 AM  
Blogger JMK said...

The longer HRC stays in the race, the worse it is for the Democrats overall.

Short of the Dems seating the MI and FL delegates 9which they said they won't), she has no real chance to win, outside of another Obama crisis....like of Bill Ayers blew up in his face, or something like that.

I think Hillary's high negatives guaranteed a close race between herself and any Republican, just as now, Barack Obama's ties to the likes of Jerry Wright, James Meeks and Bill Ayers may make it hard for him to reach to 50% mark in any general election.

Short of anyone in the race melting down, it looks like it'll be another very close election...far more in line with 200 than 2004!

12:22 PM  
Blogger JMK said...

"Rev. Wright is this presidential elections "Willie Horton" and a gift for the GOP." (PAA)
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Willie Horton was a legitimate campaign issue back in 1988.

No one can deny that, certainly not YOU. Al Gore's people (they were the first to raise the Horton) used that to define Mike Dukakis (who was responsible for furlowing violent offenders like Willie Horton) as a "soft on crime" Liberal.

IF anyone could make a case that "tough on crime" was some sort of code for "anti-black," that would be one thing, but no intelligent person EVER has.

The fact of the matter is that while blacks DO commit more violent crimes than other groups, (1) even the most draconian sanctions on violent crime could ONLY be defined as "anti-black" IF disparate impact were an accepted legal standard for discrimination - it is NOT and (2) whites, due to their numbers (over 70% of the population) are the majority of the inmates in most state and federal prisons.

Ergo, the Willie Horton issue was a viable issue, as it showed Dukakis to be a "bleeding heart" Liberal who dared to blame "an unjust society" for some violent crime. That is a disgraced and discredited viewpoint.

Same thing with Jerremiah Wright. His own words prove him to be both an anti-American hater and a vile racial bigot.

The question dogging Obama is WHY did he spend twenty years in a Church that Oprah and a number of other blacks bailed on? Why did he call this bigot "a friend and mentor?" Why did he have this anti-American, anti-Western, anti-Capilatist bigot Marry his wife and him and Baptize their daughters and assign him a place in his campaign as spiritual advisor???

ALL valid questions that go to the very questionable judgment of Barack Obama.

12:49 PM  

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