Thursday, November 27, 2008

Analysis of what went wrong for Republicans in 2008 Part 1


It's time to finally come clean about a few things regarding this year's election. I hate to say it, but the truth needs to be told. In my opinion Republicans deserved to have lost. I'll admit I wasn't happy at all that Obama won on election night. The day after I had some time to process everything that happened. I realized I did something I swore I wasn't going to do just a few short months ago when John McCain won the Republican nomination. I might have to go back into my archives to find the exact story I wrote, but I said I was not going to vote for John McCain under any circumstances. Originally I said I was going to either vote for Bob Barr or just vote for other issues on the ballot instead. The reason I wasn't going to vote for McCain was, because McCain was no friend to the conservative movement. A week before Mitt Romney dropped out of the Republican Primaries, I got into a heated debate with a kook lib in my favorite conservative chat room. During the debate I somehow started to defend McCain without thinking. Then he said something that I should have had etched into my skull right then and there up until election day. He said "It doesn't matter who wins, liberals still win because McCain is basically one of us". I very rarely agree with liberals, but he was right and I didn't listen. When comparing Obama to McCain on paper, where is the distinct differences between the two besides on the issue of Iraq? The issues that conservatives supported John McCain on weren't supported originally by McCain. Originally he was against the Bush tax cuts, offshore drilling, drilling in Amwar, he supported the same cap and trade environmental policy that us conservatives attacked Obama for supporting in the last week before the election. Him along with Obama supported the disastrous $700 billion dollar bailout bill. He stabbed conservatives in the back by teaming up with Democrats to form the band of 14 to deny Bush from appointing conservative judges to Judaical positions. Last but not least, he along with Democrat liberals tried to push for an illegal immigration amnesty bill that would have had an severe impact on our society and economy that would have changed America as we know it. Even with all that he has done against conservatives, we supported him. The truth is that John McCain should have never been the Republican nominee. Everybody I talked to said they didn't vote for McCain in the Republican Primaries. The only answer I could think of at the time was that independents and country club Republicans were voting for McCain in states that held open primaries. I wondered could have Democrats changed their party affiliation in order to vote for McCain in an effort to screw over Republicans by helping McCain to win the nomination. Anything is possible I suppose. A building can't be built without a strong foundation, and John McCain didn't have a foundation of support in which to build. He prided himself on attracting independents voters, but independents aren't loyal to a particular candidate or party. Whether liberal or conservative, a person's base is loyal and will be there if that candidates represents their values. That was John McCain's flaw. McCain is not a conservative, and he never was. When McCain won the Republican nomination, people like Bob Dole was attacking conservatives for not embracing him as a conservative. Dole didn't have any ground in which to speak, because he isn't a conservative himself. The same amount of people voted in this election as in in 2004. So contrary to the media's delusion, the hyped claim that the youth vote was going to turn out like no other time in American history turned out to be false. The reason why Obama won was because twenty percent of Republicans stayed home on election day. That is exactly what happened during the congressional midterms two years ago. Republicans that sold out their principals in order to be somewhat liked by Democrats learned a lesson that was two years in the making. That lesson the conservative based taught Republicans was "you forgot who brought you too the dance, but we will remind you come election time". No matter how much the media wants to claim Obama was a great and popular candidate, he could have been beaten provided the right candidate was the Republican nominee. Any true conservative knows that the media does not like Republicans and especially conservatives. I remember the week after McCain won the nomination, there was a rally for him in Ohio. Nationally syndicated talk show host Bill Cunningham was warming up the crowd for McCain's appearance. Cunningham referred to Obama by his middle name of Hussein. Well the media had a field day and went crying to McCain wanting him to throw Bill under the bus. McCain by the way did throw Bill Cunningham under the bus by attacking him for the use of Obama's middle name. McCain told the media "I absolutely repudiate such comments, and again I will take responsibility -- it will never happen again". McCain didn't figure out that the media only like Republicans when they are trying to tear down another Republican or undermine Conservatives. This comment by Bill Cunningham says it all " McCain "ought to attack Democrats and quit attacking conservatives like me."
A few weeks ago I heard McCain say at a rally that Obama would make a good president. I watched with a stunned face. In politics it is unheard of for a candidate to talk up his opponent among his or her own supporters. Obama didn't return the favor of course, he called McCain "an old fish in a newspaper. Obama's supporters laughed when Obama said that about him and referring to Sarah Palin as a "lipstick on a pig". When Palin went on the attack and said that "Obama pals around with terrorists", once again the media went into the "crying foul mode" to McCain. McCain once again played right into the media's hand by not forcefully sticking up for her. The Obama cult and the media didn't like what Palin said, but she was factually correct in what she said. I can guarantee if the Republican nominee in 2012 is another McCain clone like Governor Charlies Crist of Florida or Governor Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota, Republicans can kiss 2012 goodbye. More to follow

8 Comments:

Blogger Pamela said...

I almost did not vote for President this year. I did vote for McCain holding my nose. Afterwards I told my friends that I regretted casting that vote. I felt like I lied when I voted. In all the elections I have participated in that is the only vote that I regret making.

I do not know what will happen in 2012. If there is not a candidate that I can support among the primary winners 2012 will be my first election not voting for president. I will do that with no shame knowing that I will be truthful with my votes.

3:58 PM  
Anonymous allyHM said...

Well, I voted for McCain and did not feel bad about it at all. Even if he is "liberal" by our standards, he is still way more conservative that Pres-elect Obama - by a long shot. Not only that John McCain loves this country - LOVES IT AND PUTS THE COUNTRY FIRST BEFORE HIS OWN PERSONAL AGENDA - and has never, ever disparaged the USA. Can the same be said for our Pres-elect? Furthermore, John McCain knows what it's like to sacrifice for one's country. He sacrificed his health and freedom during Vietnam and now he risks the possible sacrifice of his own son who is serving overseas right now. Can the same be said for our Pres-elect? I would rather have a moderatley liberal patriot like McCain over a far-left socialist like Obama any day.

I fully understand that everything that happens is part of God's plan, even if I don't understand what that plan is, so I accept the results of the last election and will respect Pres-elect Obama on the grounds that he is the President - respect for the office, if you will. However, I am greatly and grievously concerned for the future of our country. I would not be had John McCain won. Simple as that.

4:55 PM  
Blogger p. anthony allen said...

CB"Republicans deserved to have lost."

So true! But not for most of the reasons you've pointed out.

I had said that this election was left up to the "Democrats to lose". Obama ran a very smart, well directed campaign. If it were not for that fact we could have possibly seen a different outcome.

You might as well face the fact Tyrone that the Bush administration was a disaster. Just to name a few; Hurricane Katrina, FEMA cronyism, Health and Human Services scandals, the rationale and cost of the Iraq war, The Attorney Generals Office scandals, Haliburton, Valerie Plame, Domestic spying and a economic breakdown to boot... the Republicans and the party had a "lotta splain'in to doo!"

Throughout the campaign McCain couldn't break that mirror-image cast upon him by the Obama campaign. In addition support for him was waning within his own party. Perhaps unknowingly, some conservatives publicly tied McCain to Bush by painting the both as too "moderate." Even hard core conservative Ann Coulter during the primaries said she would vote for Hillary if McCain got the nomination.

It's possible that many conservatives sat this one out because of McCain. However, I would bet that a large number of "moderate" Republicans jumped ship due to McCains VP choice. Although Palin energized the evangelical conservative base, many Republicans saw her as a "caricature" or a "mockery", which further showed them that McCain was not in control.

Combine those facts with an outgoing Republican administration with a 20% approval rating.... Hell, even a Marxist Socialist Communist Muslim Terrorist Elitist Radical Racist Baby Killer could have beat the Republicans and John McCain!

6:30 PM  
Blogger conservative brother said...

Pamela "I almost did not vote for President this year. I did vote for McCain holding my nose. Afterwards I told my friends that I regretted casting that vote. I felt like I lied when I voted. In all the elections I have participated in that is the only vote that I regret making."

We voted for the lesser of two evils. When faced with that option Pamela, it becomes very very hard to get excited about supporting a candidate. If I thought that the Republicans could have prevented Democrats from getting a veto proof congress, I would have voted third party, but I didn't think they could and I had to vote for McShame. I feel kind of dirty, but confession is good for the soul. lol I fee like a huge burden has been lifted. I think the Republican field will be much different then it was this time around. Conservatives are going to make sure of that, We won't get stuck with the Republican lemon again. As for right now, the number objective is regaining congress in 2010.

9:31 PM  
Blogger conservative brother said...

allyHM "Well, I voted for McCain and did not feel bad about it at all. Even if he is "liberal" by our standards, he is still way more conservative that Pres-elect Obama - by a long shot. Not only that John McCain loves this country - LOVES IT AND PUTS THE COUNTRY FIRST BEFORE HIS OWN PERSONAL AGENDA - and has never, ever disparaged the USA."

I can agree with you ally that McCain never trashed America like Obama has.

allyHM " Can the same be said for our Pres-elect? Furthermore, John McCain knows what it's like to sacrifice for one's country. He sacrificed his health and freedom during Vietnam and now he risks the possible sacrifice of his own son who is serving overseas right now.
"

Of course not ally. I seriously doubt Obama could have an appreciation for the U.S Military like McCain or Palin would. There are some things that would have made McCain better then Obama, only on a few issues. McCain did serve his country in the Hanoi Hilton while Obama paled around with William Ayres. there are some differences between the two ally but McCain does support many of the same socialist ideas that Obama supported. McCain reminds me of Britons former Prime Minister Tony Blair. He was pro military and believed in fighting the war on Islamic extremism, but he was still a liberal at the end of the day.

allyHM "
I fully understand that everything that happens is part of God's plan, even if I don't understand what that plan is, so I accept the results of the last election and will respect Pres-elect Obama on the grounds that he is the President - respect for the office, if you will. However, I am greatly and grievously concerned for the future of our country. I would not be had John McCain won. Simple as that."

Everything does happen for a reason ally, I wish I could say I respect Obama as President, but then I think aobut how his supporters personally and venomisly trashed Governor Palin and her family even George Bush for 8 years. They never showed respect to them, so I wonder should I show respect to their "messiah". I have to think on that one. Karma is a funny thing. What goes around does indeed comeback around.

10:55 PM  
Anonymous allyHM said...

CB,

As a Christian, it is my responsibility to take the high road. Regardless of how the liberals have treated Gov. Palin and trashed President Bush, I won't stoop to their level. I have great hope that conservatives are generally better than that. Also, as a Christian, "karma" is not a concept I recognize. It *is* Biblical to say you reap what you sew, but the result of that is (and should be) determined by God, not man. Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord. God is in control and He's big enough to fight this battle.

11:46 PM  
Blogger conservative brother said...

P Allen "
I had said that this election was left up to the "Democrats to lose". Obama ran a very smart, well directed campaign. If it were not for that fact we could have possibly seen a different outcome."

Are you kidding me allen? First off, Obama's supporters couldn't tell you one issue in which they agreed with Obama on. All the knew was the catch word of change and they hated Bush. Second, Obama didn't run this campaign. David Aklerod ran his campaign and did do an ok job. The McCain campaign was run terribly run the start. If the Republican candidate was actually well liked, he or she could have overcome the inabilities of an inept campaign manager allen. That is one reason why Obama owes everything to David Aklerod.


P Allen "
You might as well face the fact Tyrone that the Bush administration was a disaster. Just to name a few; Hurricane Katrina, FEMA cronyism, Health and Human Services scandals, the rationale and cost of the Iraq war, The Attorney Generals Office scandals, Haliburton, Valerie Plame, Domestic spying and a economic breakdown to boot... the Republicans and the party had a "lotta splain'in to doo!"

I'll admit it allen. Bush is to the Republicans what the Clintons is to the Democrats, an embarrassment. To Bush's credit though, he did use the right formula to turn around the economy after the dot com tech bubble burst and then the 911 attacks. The domestic spying has been taken out of context. It's the "FOREIGN TO DOMESTIC". As for surveillance act allen. I don't fault Bush for that, that idea is actually a good one. As for Katrina, I don't fault him on that either. This was the first time a major city was flooded. The only reason why it was hyped the way it was was because New Orleans was 65% black. Bush was unfairly called a racist. Kanya West said "Bush doesn't care about black people" etc. I don't fault Bush. People were silly enough to have put their faith into the government in thinking they were going to save the day. At the end of the day, government just lived up to what it does best, failure. Bush wasn't to blame. As for Halliburton, I don't fault Bush on that either allen. Both Clinton and Bush gave no bid contracts to Halliburton. The original claim by the left was that Cheney orchestrated the war and Halliburton was going to steal Iraq's oil, notice you don't hear that anymore from the left. Matter of fact, I haven't heard anything from liberals about Halliburton in over two years. I guess they finally realized that Iraq was never about Halliburton profiting from Iraq's oil.

P Allen "Throughout the campaign McCain couldn't break that mirror-image cast upon him by the Obama campaign. In addition support for him was waning within his own party. Perhaps unknowingly, some conservatives publicly tied McCain to Bush by painting the both as too "moderate." Even hard core conservative Ann Coulter during the primaries said she would vote for Hillary if McCain got the nomination."

The Obama camp did do a good job linking Bush to McCain in the eyes of his followers. That is one reason why governors make the best candidates for President. Governors don't have to worry about having an opposition party linking that governors record to the current President. McCain did have a chance to break away from Bush, all he had to do was come out AGAINST The bailout that Obama and Bush SUPPORTED. If McCain would have voted against the bailout bill, he could have then come out and attack Obama for supporting a bad bill and him supporting Bush in the process. McCain was so busy trying to play the peace maker, he didn't see probably his one and only opening to trying to attack Obama. Also as for Valarie Plame who wasn't an uncover agent to begin with, it was Richard Armatage that "outed" her. I blame bush for not going to bat for Scooter Libby. Libby was a loyalist to BUsh, yet bush hasn't expunged his record. This issue conservatives don' like Bush on at all. As for HIllary, she said "get drunk and vote for McCain". I voted for him, but I didn't get drunk lol

P Allen "
It's possible that many conservatives sat this one out because of McCain. However, I would bet that a large number of "moderate" Republicans jumped ship due to McCains VP choice. Although Palin energized the evangelical conservative base, many Republicans saw her as a "caricature" or a "mockery", which further showed them that McCain was not in control."

Most Republicans had a very favorable opinion of Palin including moderates. Matter of fact in the Rasmussen poll conducted after the election 91% of Republicans had a favorable opinion of Palin, 69% said she was an asset to McCain. Only 20% of Republicans said she was a liability. Palin helped and did pretty good for the ticket for a person that was thrown onto the national scene and expected to save McCain.The media tried to present an image of Paln that doesn't exist, and republicans moderate and conservatives saw through it.

P Allen "
Combine those facts with an outgoing Republican administration with a 20% approval rating.... Hell, even a Marxist Socialist Communist Muslim Terrorist Elitist Radical Racist Baby Killer could have beat the Republicans and John McCain!"

The stars aren't going to align like they did this time around for Obama four years from now, everything you said Allen will be the polar opposite then. Bush will be a four year memory, The big bad Bushy bogey man will be no more. Also Obama will have to run on a failed economy with possibly no republican majority to blame. So Obama better enjoy this historic fluke this time around, it won't be easy from here on out.

11:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Believe it or not the Islamic influence had a lot to do with the election. The rich white man (Arabs this time) put the squeeze on the financial world and caused this upheaval in this financial downturn. Every time we buy a gallon of gas we feed the appetites of greed on both sides. This is one of the first elections where it was so evident of the corruption permeating the American system of government. It has always happened, but not to this extent. The socialism oozing from the lips of the Harvard and Yale trained elected officials can be seen in their lack of concern for the American way of life and their yearnings for an European system of failure.
Remeber Adolf Hitler was a Democratic Socialist which morphed into the National Socialist Party aka NAZIs.

Obama has stated that we would need a civilian force as large or larger than the military which is reminiscent of the brownshirts.
Liberals will make excuses for criminal behavior to the extent that we will need that force to keep order. This is the conspirarcy.

John McCain didnt want to win. He picked Palin with the hopes that she would cause him defeat. It backfired. Palin was the best choice for President. McCain always reached across the aisle and get his already short arms biten off by the crocks, and he still tries to reach across the aisle. How did he get the nomination? He was no match for the young vibrant highly suntanned articulate man from Harvard, a true new brand of Marxism. This man would have defeated the average Joe Republican. This man made all of the PC moves, married the right hue, associated with the right cult leaders and drank the right brand of koolaid. The Republican Party was doomed to lose. Bush supported causes unpopular enough to assure a Democratic win.

8:28 AM  

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