An "unholly act" committed by the University of Notre Dame against Dr. Allen Keyes and Operation Rescue.
The University of Notre Dame should be ashamed of itself for its actions it committed against Dr. Allen Keyes and the pro life group Operation Rescue. The University of Notre Dame use to be a respectable Catholic University. Some so called churches; religious institutions and organizations have bastardized the purity of their religion by altering their religious teaching in order to accommodate the immoral lifestyles promoted constantly by the left. Unfortunately, the University of Notre Dame can also be added to this list. Any so-called religious institution that sells out its core beliefs in order to embrace a “popular politician” is a disgrace to its religion. I’m not going to candy coat reality. It is what it is. This month Barack Obama is scheduled to give the commencement address at Notre Dame. He will also receive an Honorary Doctrine from the University. Barack Obama is the most radically pro-abortion person to ever reside in the White House. It sickens me to this day knowing how religion in our country has been so polluted and watered down to accomodate sin. So many people that call themselves religious leaders supported Obama. Many of them knew his stances on abortion and gay marriage, yet they supported him anyway. Abortion is condemned in the Catholic faith,yet Notre Dame spat in the face of core doctrine. That alone is bad enough, but Notre Dame managed to sink even lower with their actions today against Dr. Alan Keyes. Dr. Keyes along with 21 other pro-life protesters from the group Operation Rescue was all arrested thanks to the actions of Notre Dame. Keyes and the other protesters “walked on campus praying quietly with baby carriages that had dolls covered with stage blood as a show of protest.”. I guess this was the “cardinal sin” the group committed that warranted the arrests? It looks like the Notre Dame officials didn’t like having to come face to face with the true consequences of their actions for inviting Barack Obama to their campus. The arresting of the members of Operation Rescue isn’t going to expunge them of their betrayal of the faith they claim to support. I won’t hold my breath expecting the media to cover this story. The media would usually chomp at the bit any other time to cover a negative story regarding a conservative or conservative group, however this story would bring attention to Obama’s radical pro abortion ideology. The University of Notre Dame needs to understand how unpopular its actions are with true Catholics and religious traditionalists. I would like to see a financial boycott by the alumni to the university. I commend Dr. Keyes and Operation Rescue for not abandoning or altering their principals in the wake of others that have in order to please a "popular politician". Real Catholic Telvision weighs in on the invitation of Obama to Notre Dame, and I couldn't agree more. The acts of Notre Dame in favor of Obama and against Keyes is absolutely indefensable.
Radio talk show host and Catholic Laura Ingraham brought up a very direct and important question. Is the University of Notrem Dame still a "Catholic" Unversity?
Radio talk show host and Catholic Laura Ingraham brought up a very direct and important question. Is the University of Notrem Dame still a "Catholic" Unversity?
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 1:37 AM
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I'm starting to believe that Obama is the Anti Christ (Not the Anti Christ of Revelation)and that Notre Dame University is a religious Institution of Learning in Name Only. They have become hollow and are only about appearances and not about principle or truth. I think Boycott University of Notre Dame is definitely a proactive idea!
I commend Allen Keyes if only he were president instead of that soulless ugly ghoul Obama!
If you're Pro-choice read pro-infanticide you are a monster comparable with Adolph Hitler!
I wish these so called Pro-Choice ghouls would permanently sterilize themselves it's a choice even I won't protest. If these people are sterile no more babies will die!
Chilerkle;"If you're Pro-choice read pro-infanticide you are a monster comparable with Adolph Hitler!
Really?
Monsters have a landmark decision called "Roe v. Wade , 410 U.S. 113 (1973)." Those "monsters" on the Supreme Court used precedent constitutional amendment rights, to allow "WOMEN" to take control over their own bodies.
So now a woman can choose rather or not to "kill the child inside her", or "betray her God" or "cast her own soul into hell." If she makes the decision to do any of the aforementioned, BY HERSELF OR TO HERSELF, she can do it legally.
You're absolutely right, Hitler was a monster. Yet, it was his policies, which was carried out by the Nazi German people, that reeked all the havoc. Legal abortion is the "law of the land" according to the U.S. Constitution. The fact is your argument is with the LAW! (eg. the U.S. Constitution)
Politicians, including the president, can either agree or disagree with either the law, or the practice of abortion. Yet both opinions have no "LEGAL" practical significance. Put simply, because abortion is legal, and the case has been decided and heard!
Tyrone, your linked CNS News article had no comments from the university.
Other outlets have reported that Keyes was given notice prior to his protest that the university had a long standing policy that any protests, on campus grounds, must first be approved by the university. Keyes' group received no such approval. In addition, the protesters were asked to leave the campus grounds. When they refused they were arrested.
I have no qualms with groups protesting to express their views. Perhaps Notre Dame should have allowed them to protest, but it's their campus and their policy.
However, the speaker in the Real Catholic TV video clip offered nothing toward the "right to protest" debate. His intent is to totally deny the president the right or opportunity to speak.
Offering an analogy to "slavery" and "child pornography" made his cause seem disingenuous being that both of those practices are "illegal" under U.S. law, as abortion is "LEGAL" under U.S. law. I'm quite sure that he is aware of that fact, yet he still makes the comparison...???
He also adds; "Would Notre Dame invite the head of the KKK, even if he discovered the cure for cancer?" How about the head of the KKK finding a cure for Sickle Cell Anemia? Or AIDS? How about the KKK winning the Noble Peace Prize? Gimme a break....
Even though Mr. Voris has his broadcast network in the Detroit Metro area, I had never heard of him. I did a Google search and "lo' and behold", almost every single article, news clip, statement, you tube entry, etc... had "partisan" political content, almost 60,000 entries.
Just to see if Mr. Voris had any other "American cultural or negative media interests", I Google his name and added "pedophile priests." Lo' and behold...a mere 52 entries! I searched through the mere 4 1/2 pages and could not find "ONE" statement or article by him addressing the issue. Hmmmmmmm?
This guy is a political HACK! His intent is purely political. He could care less about the idea that the president is "Pro-choice". It's all about politics...nothing else!
P Allen "Monsters have a landmark decision called "Roe v. Wade , 410 U.S. 113 (1973)." Those "monsters" on the Supreme Court used precedent constitutional amendment rights, to allow "WOMEN" to take control over their own bodies."
The Supreme Court represents the judicial branch of government allen. Their function is to "interrupt" laws to see if they are constitutionally acceptable. You liberals definitely need a refresher course in civics 101 allen. The legislative branch of governments makes the laws which are then enforced by the executive branch of governments headed up by the president.Roe vs Wade isn't really a law. The Supreme Court abused their powers. Our government either on the federal or state level is suppose to have a 1/3 equal power as a way of "checks and balances". Each branch has a UNIQUE function but not the same as another's branch of government. Did that help you any allen? If a pro abortion bill was passed through congress and signed by the president THEN AND ONLY THEN would it be a valid law. You talk about Roe vs Wade giving women the right to "control their bodies". If women truly had "control over their bodies" from the state allen, why is prostitution illegal in 49 states except Nevada? If you liberals are so concerned about freedom to kill babies, why not rally and support a woman's right to sell sex allen?
p allen "So now a woman can choose rather or not to "kill the child inside her", or "betray her God" or "cast her own soul into hell." If she makes the decision to do any of the aforementioned, BY HERSELF OR TO HERSELF, she can do it legally."
And the child's choice in this decision is what again allen? You seem to forget the small little detail that a innocent human life is factored into this equation allen. This isn't about a woman having an operation for a "medical problem". Abortion people want to call it "reproductive health care".
Unless the mother's life is in jeopardy, there is no "health care" aspect to the terminology. You also seem to forget allen that it takes TWO to create a child. Thanks for reminding me why I'm not a liberal allen.
p allen "Other outlets have reported that Keyes was given notice prior to his protest that the university had a long standing policy that any protests, on campus grounds, must first be approved by the university."
You've said that the "media" reported the policy. Why didn't a representative from Notre Dame come out directly and issue their policy allen? I would like to see their "policy" against protesting personally. I doubt Notre Dame would have had anyone arrested if the protesters were protesting something that was favorable to the university.Call me cynical, but I'm not buying it allen.
P Allen "Keyes' group received no such approval. In addition, the protesters were asked to leave the campus grounds. When they refused they were arrested."
Keyes made a speech off of campus grounds the day before allen.Keyes was told if he stepped foot on campus grounds, then he might be arrested. It doesn't really matter. Notre Dame is going to be the one that will be negatively impacted from this public relations nightmare. Notre Dame was already under intense scrutiny from alumni, students and pro life groups for inviting Obama. The arrest of Keyes is just going to be an even bigger black mark on the university. This story broke Friday afternoon. Wait until tomorrow once the local and national talk radio hosts start reporting on this. The arrest of a high profile catholic by a so called catholic university over a catholic moral issue isn't going to help ND much.
Man ohh man....
Here's the statement I made, which "YOU" in turn posted/quoted;
"P Allen "Monsters have a landmark decision called "Roe v. Wade , 410 U.S. 113 (1973)." Those "monsters" on the Supreme Court used precedent constitutional amendment rights, to allow "WOMEN" to take control over their own bodies."
Okay...
Your response is...
"The Supreme Court represents the judicial branch of government allen. Their function is to "interrupt" laws to see if they are constitutionally acceptable."Roe vs Wade isn't really a law."
Use your brain Tyrone. Read exactly what I wrote and don't attempt to "Hannitize" or, add a "Limbaugh-ish" non-contextual spin to it.
I said landmark "DECISION." A decision is made by weighing options, thoughts and/or precedents, by "INTERPRETATION" I noticed you wrote the Supreme Courts function is to "interrupt" laws. Perhaps you meant "interpret", but with some of the things you've been writing since the election, you do seem to be a bit off-kilter.
The Supreme Court "interpreted" that women have a right of privacy with respect to their own bodies, and "decided" that abortion was a personal decision, thereby making abortion "legal" in all 50 states.
Conservatives seem to have a problem with "comprehension." Good comprehension requires an unclouded mind
CB;You also seem to forget allen that it takes TWO to create a child. Thanks for reminding me why I'm not a liberal allen."
That's no longer true!
-Science now allows a dead man to reproduce.
-Human embryos can now be created in a petri dish.
-Embryo donation allows THREE parties in the child creation process.
CB;"And the child's choice in this decision is what again allen? You seem to forget the small little detail that a innocent human life is factored into this equation allen."
Really?
Guess what Tyrone? The innocent human life has no choice in "NONE" of the above listed! (which includes the TWO parties you quoted) No one get the opportunity to "choose" when, where, why, how, what, or if, you are born. Like it or not, accept it or not... that's just the way it is...
CB;"I would like to see their "policy" against protesting personally. I doubt Notre Dame would have had anyone arrested if the protesters were protesting something that was favorable to the university.Call me cynical, but I'm not buying it allen."
A simple search of their web-site would have answered any questions you might have had Tyrone...
Page 145 of the University of Notre Dame "du Lac" under Student Activities Policies states the following;
Demonstrations
All demonstrations must be registered in writing with the Associate
Vice President for Residence Life and also must observe the following
rules:
a. All demonstrations must be peaceful and orderly.
b.***Only members of the University community may organize or lead a demonstration on campus. ***
c. Demonstrators may not impede the freedom of the
University community.
As I said...it's their University, it's their policy.
It all seems so trivial to me. If the students wish to boycott the commencement, that's their right. If they wish to turn their backs while he speaks, more power to them. If they wish to hold candlelight viduals or carry signs around campus in protest, as students, they should be allowed.
Yet, as long as the president is respectful to them, they should offer that same respect. President Obama was "INVITED" to speak. LET HIM SPEAK and get over it!
This petty argument over his views on abortion is a political smoke screen. Michael Voris' plea to deny the president the opportunity to speak is a perfect example. Voris is clearly a partisan and a HACK for the right-wing religious conservatives. His reasons for opposing the presidents invitation is far beyond the abortion issue.
Another is Chicago's Cardinal George, who recently claimed to be embarrassed by the presidents invitation. Cardinal George had no qualms in allowing an admitted and convicted pedophile priest, Fr. Martin, to stay at his home, and employ Martin as a consultant to the archdiocese.
Those who want the president "dis-invited" are not being honest with the rest of us. Obama was not invited to speak about "ABORTION." Voris is wrong when he states "support of a public policy should disqualify a person from speaking at the University." Many Americans disagreed with the war in Iraq. If you were asked to speak at any commencement, should your stance on the war be a prerequisite, even though you're not there to speak on the issue? If your only grievance is a "policy" your "actions" should reflect disagreement with the "policy" not the man.
President Obama supports a woman's "LEGAL" right to choose, yet he is not invited to speak about abortion, thus, Voris is disingenuous in his quest. His intent is purely political!!
Allen, if women really had control over their bodies they wouldnt get pregnant and men's sperm would not be allowed to impregnate us. We dont have control over our own bodies. If so I would not have had the pain having the babies. Control starts with the freedom to say NO or YES depending on the man.
Why get pregnant? All people know how one gets pregnant. When the sperm hits the egg, a new life begins, whether we see it or not the woman feels it. If one wants to have an abortion, dont make excuses as go murder. Just say I dont want this new life and my conscious is clear. Why try to soothe the conscious by saying it is not a baby. When the birth cycle begins, the female feels it. If she doesnt want it she can abort it legally. Some now use abortion as birth control.
It was her decision to lay down and have sex or not unless she was raped. We all know the possibilities. It becomes a choice. 14 million black babies have been aborted since Roe.
Anon;"Allen, if women really had control over their bodies they wouldnt get pregnant and men's sperm would not be allowed to impregnate us. We dont have control over our own bodies."
I have no idea what any of that means....
p allen "
Conservatives seem to have a problem with "comprehension." Good comprehension requires an unclouded mind"
And liberals still have a hard time comprehending how their government actually works allen.
p allen "Yet, as long as the president is respectful to them, they should offer that same respect. President Obama was "INVITED" to speak. LET HIM SPEAK and get over it!"
This really isn't about Obama allen. It's about Notre Dames deception to the Christianity and the Catholic Church's doctrine. No true church or religious organization would honor Obama for anything.
p allen "It all seems so trivial to me. If the students wish to boycott the commencement, that's their right. If they wish to turn their backs while he speaks, more power to them. If they wish to hold candlelight viduals or carry signs around campus in protest, as students, they should be allowed."
Imagine that allen, we actually agree on something. I hope the students and the alumni not only protest against Obama's visit,but I also hope that the alumni withhold giving donations to the school's endowment. Notre Dame should learn that every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
p allen "Another is Chicago's Cardinal George, who recently claimed to be embarrassed by the presidents invitation. Cardinal George had no qualms in allowing an admitted and convicted pedophile priest, Fr. Martin, to stay at his home, and employ Martin as a consultant to the archdiocese. "
I don't know of Cardinal George Allen. If he did do what you said, then he is wrong as wrong can be. Pedophiles should not be allowed anywhere around kids. Once again allen, Cardinal George doesn't have a leg to stand on if this is truly the case.
p allen "This petty argument over his views on abortion is a political smoke screen."
Do you deem my views on abortion as a "political smoke screen" allen". Is my faith a "political smoke screen allen"? Please answer those questions. I've been against abortion before I was able to vote. It's not a "political smoke screen", its a morality issue. I guess for liberals its easier to dismiss what you can debate as being nothing more then trivial or a smoke screen allen. There are people that let their faith guide their politics, and there are people that are the opposite.
p allen "Michael Voris' plea to deny the president the opportunity to speak is a perfect example. Voris is clearly a partisan and a HACK for the right-wing religious conservatives. His reasons for opposing the presidents invitation is far beyond the abortion issue."
How so allen? Did Voris say something to validate your claim? Once again allen, do you believe that everybody that is against abortion are merely political hacks?
CB;"This really isn't about Obama allen. It's about Notre Dames deception to the Christianity and the Catholic Church's doctrine. No true church or religious organization would honor Obama for anything."
Total BULL!
All politicians lie!! Therefore all politicians commit "some" type of sin, which basically puts them in direct conflict with so-called "Christian" teachings. That being the case, then "NO" American politician should be allowed to speak at a Christian establishment!
Furthermore, on several occasions you have either written or agreed that Islamic doctrine is in direct conflict with Christian doctrine. So, should Notre Dame honor, or allow a Muslim to speak? If your answer is NO, then I can accept your idea that Notre Dame should not allow anyone who does not adhere to Christian doctrine (all non-Christians for that matter) to be honored nor speak.
Yet if your answer is Yes, and that non-Christians can be honored by the university, that would show that your opposition to the president is purely POLITICAL.
How about a Jewish Rabbi? A Hindu or a Buddhist? They definitely don't adhere to (quoting you directly) "Christianity and the Catholic Church's doctrine"!!!! Should the university not honor or allow them to speak????? Answer those questions!!!
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