Wednesday, November 04, 2009

Special Election recap Part 1: Hoffman vs Owens

The winners of the special elections last night in New York, New Jersey, Maine an Virginia weren't just the candidates, it was people who either voted for or ran on conservative principals. Some of you might be wondering why did I include New York and Maine, I'll tell you all later in other parts to my recap. Let me start with the New York 23rd congressional race. Doug Hoffman lost to Bill Owens by 4% points, but Hoffman will be remembered for much more in the long run. The pundits all said that Dough didn't have a snowball chance in hell of winning, but he ran anyways. Not only did Hoffman stand up to the powerful Republican establishments on both the local and national level, his candidacy became a symbol that shined a light into exposing the problems within the GOP. It was the act of Hoffman running on conservative principals that has now inspired grass roots conservatives across the country to challenge RINOs in elections next year. Doug Hoffman's campaign was the conservative shot that was heard around the nation. His campaign also helped to expose the truth about those who call themselves conservatives "Newt Gingrich" really aren't what they claim to be. So many teachable moments were learned from an underdog candidate that nobody heard of a month ago but quickly became a household name just by being himself and standing on principal. Dede Scozzafava should also be thanked. It was her "betrayal" that has actually brought to light the lack of party loyalty by liberal and moderate Republicans. The GOP went nuclear last year when Collin Powell endorsed Barack Obama. At one time John Kerry almost convinced John McCain to become a Democrat. Dede is a liberal and Bill Owens is a liberal. So a liberal endorsing a liberal wasn't a big shock to me. To others for some reason it was. Moderate and liberal Republicans like Scozzafava, Specter, Shay, Powell, Graham, Lott, Bloomberg, McCain, Snow, Collins, Hagel and others should serve as a very loud wake up call to the Republican party on both the local, state and national levels. Self serving politicians and politicians who political ideology are actually opposed to what the GOP is suppose to stand for eventually end up betraying the party to one extent or another. It was hypocritical of Collin Powell spewing on about what was wrong with the Republican Party months after he endorsed Barack Obama over his so called friend John McCain. Collin Powell has more in common with Dede Scozzafava then any grass roots conservative Republican. I'm now going to have to take conservatives to task moment. Conservatives were mad at Dede Scozzafava for her endorsing Bill Owens. I'm still confused to why conservatives were angry at Dede. I know Dede is a liberal, and I didn't have a problem with conservatives going after her by them endorsing Hoffman. I still can't figure out why conservatives thought she was going to be a "good party soldier" and endorse Hoffman after what happened to her in the first place. When Hillary Clinton was basically forced out by Obama supporters near the end of the primaries, conservatives said Hillary was stupid for endorsing Obama after how the media and Obama supporters treated her. So what made this situation with Dede any different? She had a right to be angry. I guess conservatives wanted Dede to be chump and go along with the people who screwed her just like Hillary did for Obama. I don't want people to misunderstand what I'm saying. I'm not coming down on conservatives for backing Hoffman. I liked Hoffman as wel. I'm saying that conservatives shouldn't be angry at Dede for what she did. If anyone who had a legitimate right to be extremely angry at Dede is the New York Republican Party and the Republican National Committee. These are the people who backed her from day one and spent over $900,000 on her behalf. That was an embarrassing and expensive teachable moment for the GOP. The winners in the 23rd race are conservatives. The overrall objective was the send a message to the Republican establishment over their selection of Dede in the first place, and that mission was accomplished.

6 Comments:

Blogger Almondtea said...

I'm glad Dede didn't win the election.
It's sad how the elites in the Republican party don't get it!
I'll never support a Liberal Republican and I won't support a Liberal Democrat because to me their both one and the same liberal.
Newt Gingrich should be ashamed of himself.

3:57 PM  
Blogger p. anthony allen said...

RB;"I'm saying that conservatives shouldn't be angry at Dede for what she did. If anyone who had a legitimate right to be extremely angry at Dede is the New York Republican Party and the Republican National Committee. The winners in the 23rd race are conservatives. The overrall objective was the send a message to the Republican establishment over their selection of Dede in the first place, and that mission was accomplished".

Puh-leeezzzz!

Leave it you to put a dark cloud in a silver lining...

According to Scazzafava's bio, she has always been a "liberal Republican" (20 years or more). The voters in her district knows who and what she is.

You say that the RNC should be angry with...her??? WHY? The RNC knew her record and stance on the issues. You're talking as though Scarzzafava "tricked" or "lied" to the RNC, and the people in her district. Hell, she'd been in politics in the district, (Republican politics) for 20 years!!

Running openly on her record, it was no secret that she supported gay rights and was pro-choice. That's exacatly why I stated prior that gay marriage and abortion was "injected" into this race by Sarah Palin.

Palin and her "SarahPAC", P-PAC or whatever you want to call it, envisioned a congressional seat election vulnerability in the NY 23rd district. Primed for their "far-right" conservative agenda was percieved "RINO" Dede Scarzzafava. Palin's endorcement of Hoffman brought out the anti-gay/anti-abortion forces such as "The Susan B. Anthony List Candidate Fund" which spent over $300,000.00 and committed 200 volunteers to Hoffmans bid in NY-23rd.

You can accept the "FACTS" or choose not to. The fact is Palin gave Hoffman her endorcement solely on his "conservative" stance against gay marriage and abortion.

Palin knew as much about NY 23rd district politics as I did...literally NOTHING! Hell, Hoffman had never ran, or been elected to anything in his district, let alone a district he himself knew little to nothing about.

The final result is HOFFMAN LOST!!

However, you are right about one thing Tyrone. Scarzzafava did the right thing by endorcing the Democrat. If anyone was a "victim" in all of this, it was her! She says that after she dropped out of the race not "ONE" Republican called her. This after a 20 year career in the party,and the party "KNOWING" what her stance on those issues were...

Hell, if you know your relief pitcher is prone to giving up home runs, why blame him if you put him in and he gives up a home run?

Next time you have an elephant with three balls... Walk him, and pitch to the RINO!! (lol)

8:50 PM  
Blogger conservative brother said...

Almondtea "I'm glad Dede didn't win the election.It's sad how the elites in the Republican party don't get it!
I'll never support a Liberal Republican and I won't support a Liberal Democrat because to me their both one and the same liberal.Newt Gingrich should be ashamed of himself."

I'm sure the Republican elites go it alright this time Almondtea. I've heard that the Tea Party folks are creating a political hit list of RINO that they are targeting to run conservative candidates against. I wish them all the luck. The GOP is pretty clueless almondtea, we both know that. millions of conservative voters stay home last year because they were not going to pull the lever for McCain. A candidate that doesn't stand on principal doesn't stand for nothing.

11:19 PM  
Blogger conservative brother said...

p allen "Puh-leeezzzz!
Leave it you to put a dark cloud in a silver lining...According to Scazzafava's bio, she has always been a "liberal Republican" (20 years or more). The voters in her district knows who and what she is."

Facts are facts allen, I'm just stating the obvious. Where is the "dark cloud"? Gay Marriage has been over turned in liberal Maine. A fiscal conservative has won the Governorship in uber liberal New Jersey, and a conservative won the governorship in the swing state of Virginia. So once again allen, where is the dark clouds? As for the 23rd district election. You forget that there will be another election in 2010 for Owen's seat allen. This was a special election to fill the congressional seat. Owens might as well continue to campaign.

p allen "You say that the RNC should be angry with...her??? WHY? The RNC knew her record and stance on the issues. You're talking as though Scarzzafava "tricked" or "lied" to the RNC, and the people in her district. Hell, she'd been in politics in the district, (Republican politics) for 20 years!!"

The RNC should be mad with Scarzafava because she used them and the betrayed them on top of it. When she dropped out, she could have just said she wasn't going to endorse anyone. That would have been the right thing to have done for the party that did so much for her. She didn't do that now did she allen?


p allen" Running openly on her record, it was no secret that she supported gay rights and was pro-choice. That's exacatly why I stated prior that gay marriage and abortion was "injected" into this race by Sarah Palin."

As usual, you have Palin on the brain syndrome allen. It was Fred Thompson who first came out and endrose Hoffman. Second off, Dede got 6% of the vote yet Hoffman lost by 5%. It was because of Hoffman's polling numbers that Dede dropped out in the first place. So it can't be said that Hoffman wasn't worthy of being the conservative candidate.

p allen "Palin and her "SarahPAC", P-PAC or whatever you want to call it, envisioned a congressional seat election vulnerability in the NY 23rd district. Primed for their "far-right" conservative agenda was percieved "RINO" Dede Scarzzafava. Palin's endorcement of Hoffman brought out the anti-gay/anti-abortion forces such as "The Susan B. Anthony List Candidate Fund" which spent over $300,000.00 and committed 200 volunteers to Hoffmans bid in NY-23rd."

The facts are that Palin never asked Team Sarah to aid Hoffman in his campaign. They did it primarily because Palin endorsed him. Dede is a far left person who had the blessing of Acorn.

You can accept the "FACTS" or choose not to. The fact is Palin gave Hoffman her endorcement solely on his "conservative" stance against gay marriage and abortion. Also allen, what is this "far right" agenda I keep hearing liberals spew so much about? I guess the vast right wing conspiracy forget to send me an updated memo of their hidden "extreme agenda". lol

p allen "Palin knew as much about NY 23rd district politics as I did...literally NOTHING! Hell, Hoffman had never ran, or been elected to anything in his district, let alone a district he himself knew little to nothing about."

Sarah Palin merely endorsed Hoffman, she didn't campaign for the guy like she did for Saxby Chambliss in Georgia allen. You still haven't criticized Biden for "interfering" in the district 23rd race allen. I'm waiting.

The final result is HOFFMAN LOST!!

11:40 PM  
Blogger conservative brother said...

p allen "The final result is HOFFMAN LOST!!"

Wow allen, it took you that long to figure that out?

As I stated before, the 23rd seat will be up again in less then a year. So nothing was lost. Now the proper vetting process can happen in the GOP primaries next year for the seat. I didn't find out about Hoffman until two weeks ago.

P allen "However, you are right about one thing Tyrone. Scarzzafava did the right thing by endorsing the Democrat. If anyone was a "victim" in all of this, it was her! She says that after she dropped out of the race not "ONE" Republican called her. This after a 20 year career in the party,and the party "KNOWING" what her stance on those issues were..."

Me and you agreeing allen? lol There are no friends in Politics.Dede should have been smart enough to have known that. When she dropped out, the GOP saw it's investment in her go bye bye. No wonder no one talked to her.

p allen "Hell, if you know your relief pitcher is prone to giving up home runs, why blame him if you put him in and he gives up a home run?

If Dede would have stayed in. Hoffman would have lost by much larger margins then just 5% points.

11:51 PM  
Blogger Almondtea said...

Hopefully Doug Hoffman will win and we can right the wrongs Obama has yet to impose on our Republic. I hope other Americans vote out senators and other politicians who ignore our wishes!

11:37 AM  

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