The GOP embracing Joe Scarborough's insanity about Palin being the real enemy is as smart as sticking a wet finger into an electrical outlet.
Who in the bloody blue hell is Joe Scarborough? I know he's on MSNBC. I know grass root conservatives don't watch him. I also know that Joe Scarborough doesn't have any influence or is even liked among Tea Party activists and conservatives. For a person most Americans have never heard about before, his comments about Sarah Palin yesterday is sure making it's way through the media, big surprise. Mr. Scarborough the other day on his little watched Morning Smoe Show claimed that the GOP's real enemy isn't Barack Obama but Sarah Palin.
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I hate fake conservatives and political hack republicans on the same level as I do with liberals of either party. I know that I'm smart, but even I can't be this smart. I can't be alone in knowing that it was Palin who actually helped to save the GOP from it's own stupidity and self destruction. I would actually pay money to be able to debate Joe on the topic of Sarah Palin for one hour. That is all I would need. The guy is a fake conservative. Joe is as much a conservative as I am a liberal. I can't even refer to Scarborough as a token conservative on MSNBC, because he isn't even a real conservative. His anti Palin talking points might as well have been written by Democratic strategists. I have to ponder on Joe's contribution to the resurgence of the GOP in recent mid term elections. While he was talking about Palin being this wrong and that wrong, she was out attacking Obama, Pelosi and Reid. While he was saying that she is a negative to the Party, Palin was out fund raising and helping to raise money for candidates. When did Joe help to raise money for candidates during the midterm cycle? The old saying goes "put up or shut up". Joe hasn't put up nor will he put up anything, so it is about time for him to shut up! Joe spends most of his time attacking other conservatives and Palin then he does Obama and company? Speaking for myself as a true conservative, why would I ever attack another conservative who is standing up for principal? Why would I listen to such a person who attacks true conservatives? It doesn't make sense. This is why Joe Scaroborugh isn't fooling anyone except himself and gullible liberals who actually watch him. Real conservatives aren't buying his crap. The media is carrying his anti Palin buckets of water obviously, but that's about it. Neophytes like Joe wish they had the influence and power that people like Palin, Limbaugh, Beck, Levin and others have. I'm sure people like Karl Rove, Charles Krauthammer, Barbara Bush, Colin Powell and others hang on Joe's every word, but the real folks who reside in mainstream America could care less. Joe Scarborough doesn't represent nor speak for us. If the GOP is stupid enough to follow Scarborough's advice, they might as well stick a knife into the heart in which people like Palin helped to fix. It was Barbara Bush's little boy George W along with the political hack Karl Rove and others that wrecked the GOP in the first place which helped lay the ground work for Obama's victory. I'm sure Joe would never want to talk about that little fact. It would be too much like right to do so. Joe is so stupid, he couldn't even give a factual snide remark about Palin. He referred to her as a "quarter termer". Since governors serve four year terms, a quarter term is "1 YEAR". So much for intellectual proweless Joe. I don't recall Joe ever criticizing Obama for being a "half term" U.S Senator. Then again liberals never do say anything about that. They want to simply brush that aside and shine the light on Palin. Liberals are so disingenuous. I've noticed a fascinating trend forming in regards to the attacks on Palin. Every time a GOP party hack attacks Palin, it appears that the attack never reaches Palin but is blown right back at the person who made the attack. The blow back by conservatives against Joe has been fast and furious. Like I said before, Joe doesn't represent conservatives. With the GOP at the state and national level feeling the impact from the drying up of donations from regular small time contributors, would the GOP once again be stupid enough to yield Joe Scarborough's so called "advice"? Oh to comment on what Joe wrote, it was Palin who endorsed Marco Rubio in the Florida primaries. Also Marco is a Tea Party guy as well. Joe doesn't like the Tea Party either. Also, Reagan was referred to as an anti intellect and a "trouble maker" within the GOP. Can someone please educate Joe, and bring him up to speed before he gives more "advice"?Mark Levin laid out on his show exactly why the attacks against Palin are so weak, and he also takes Joe and other neo cons to task.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 12:24 PM
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Someone has to say it Tyrone. Palin and the Palin wing of the GOP are "bucking" the wing of the old school GOP base. That's not how elections are won. Face it, the grown up's in the GOP thinks she's an idiot. Without their support Palin's a fish out of water. Furthermore, apinning her gaffes into unwarranted attacks just makes her appear even more stupid than she really is.
Even Mark Levin plays "spin" the tale on the Palin donkey. Reading from a FOX News story written by John Lott, Levin repeats that Palin corrected herself immediately after making the slip-up (of course we'll never know if it was truly a slip or not). The FACT is, Palin was corrected by the interviewer. So did Lott make a "slip-up" when telling the tale? I don't think so.
But wait...why would you have to distort the facts if the truth is on your side? Why would you claim "SHE" corrected the slip-up immediately after, if in fact "SHE" did not? It's no coincidence that Levin's audience are Palin supporters. Thus, Levin has to "spin the tale" to protect Palin from the truth, which is as so many on the left and the right have stated... PALIN IS AN AIRHEAD!
Joe Scarborough needs to shut his trap. Sarah Palin's detractors slander her needlessly and viciously.
The Left is in love with unsavory characters.
Anybody that licks Obama's boots is a very poor judge of character.
Any person the Left speaks fondly of is the person is usually an individual I suspect to have an unsavory past and shady characteristics.
The so-called "grown ups" of the old RNC that p. anthony admires are the "Bush-lite" wing of the GOP that his party loves to bash and blame for the '08 economic meltdown. Why would ANYBODY listen to them?
Obama's the REAL airhead. He still isn't as qualified for his office as Palin was two years ago...
Joe;"The so-called "grown ups" of the old RNC that p. anthony admires are the "Bush-lite" wing of the GOP".
Who said that I "admire" GOP ole' schoolers? They've had their day and done their time. What I'm saying is that they are the one's who know how to get to the White House. The Bush's, the Rove's, the Cheny's, the Scarborough's and others a Reaganite Republicans. They know who they want to pass the torch to, and it definitely ain't Palin...
Joe;"that his party loves to bash and blame for the '08 economic meltdown. Why would ANYBODY listen to them?".
There's plenty blame to go around for both political parties. You can blame whoever you want, but is still won't pay your bills...
Joe;Obama's the REAL airhead. He still isn't as qualified for his office as Palin was two years ago...".
All due respect Joe, but belief in a nitwitted politician can cause you to say stupid things. The "experience" arguement has never been legit, frankly it's a silly point of view.
Dwight Einsenhower never held an elected position(until being elected president). Although he had years of military experience, he had no economic or dometic policy experience, and as a career soldier, he basically took orders all his life.
The fact is that "NO ONE" has the experience, per se', to be president, until they're elected president. The talking-point Palin falacy of having more experience is dim-witted and shallow. Presidents aren't appointed by corporate committee or a panel, they're elected by the people.
Secondly, how stupid can you, or any other Palin supporter be to contend that Palin (who quit her job as governor after a year and a half) somehow "still" has more experience at being president, than the person serving as president???
You see, thats what happens when you throw your support behind a nit-wit. No matter how many stupid things they say or do, you'll find yourself agreeing with, or defending them.
Okay, I thought let sleeping dogs lie and I don't personally know if I'd vote for a Candidate Palin in the Primaries but Sarah being a bit pretty surely does draw fire and may have an image of being a ditzy blonde type but again, going to Obama's gaffes what if Palin said some of the things Obama said?? Then, the press would really blast her. I only come to her defense because as read on this comments page, liberals like to call her names.
But what if Sarah said "Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go.” And at times, I have not seen this as a big deal Obama said as one could think on a campaign trail one might count a state twice, go to New York then Pennsylvania and back to New York, like counting NY twice though if SP had said that, I'd think it'd be unforgivable by the press.
What if Sarah said as Obama did in Kentucky: "Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it’s not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle.” On what map is Arkansas closer to Kentucky than Illinois?
Last May, Obama claimed that tornadoes in Kansas killed a whopping 10,000 people: “In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died — an entire town destroyed.” The actual death toll: 12. What if PALIN had said that??
What if Palin did this: "I'm here with the Girardo family here in St. Louis." --speaking via satellite to the Democratic National Convention, while in Kansas City, Missouri, Aug. 25, 2008
And of course there are more.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/barackobama/a/obama-isms.htm
Former Ronald Reagan campaign director Ed Rollins joins the fray.
Can someone tell (and show) me when this has happened with any other so called presidential front runner. Show where a "plethora" of negative comments have come from those within their own party.
"Dwight Einsenhower never held an elected position(until being elected president)....he basically took orders all his life. "
That would certainly be news to participants of the D-Day invasion...
...somehow "still" has more experience at being president, than the person serving as president???
Simple, she can speak off "TOTUS" and Obama can't AND she can raise as much money speaking at fundraisers. Besides, nobody wants to pay to see the DNC's carnk turner's trained monkey anymore now that he doesn't have the "dictatorial powers" that unprecedented majorities in the House and Senate previously gave him. Now the inept monkey has to "govern" instead of dictating, and he's proving his incompetence daily.
"All due respect Joe, but belief in a nitwitted politician can cause you to say stupid things."
Yes...they certainly can. Thanks for demonstrating that principle, AGAIN.
You see, thats what happens when you throw your support behind a nit-wit. No matter how many stupid things they say or do, you'll find yourself agreeing with, or defending them.
I'm no Palin fan, but unlike yourself I'm not a monkey lover, either. By the way, it is kinda fun turning your crank. Now dance for me... ;)
The half term governor is a “Dan Quayle” in heels. Since we already had an idiot “W” that caused our current economic debacle, America knows not to trust in fools who think they are brilliant. One of the reason for “W” failure was his drinking, Palin just has bad genes. If in 18 months the Economy improves the GOP does not have a prayer.
Joe;"That would certainly be news to participants of the D-Day invasion...".
Guess what Joe, military generals have a boss and take orders! I'll let you ponder who that boss might be...
All due respect Joe, but belief in a nitwitted politician can cause you to say stupid things.
Joe replies;"Yes...they certainly can. Thanks for demonstrating that principle, AGAIN".
So we agree that Palin is an airhead... Nice to know you're seeing the light!
Joe;"I'm no Palin fan, but unlike yourself I'm not a monkey lover, either. By the way, it is kinda fun turning your crank. Now dance for me... ;)".
Monkey, crank, dance... come on now isn't that a bit low-brow? I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. If you're insulted, I apologize. I try to be as respectful as I can to everyone on this blog by giving my opinions in a straight forward and to the point manner. I'm just not onto name calling or animal metaphors.
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Montana "The half term governor is a “Dan Quayle” in heels. Since we already had an idiot “W” that caused our current economic debacle, America knows not to trust in fools who think they are brilliant. One of the reason for “W” failure was his drinking, Palin just has bad genes. If in 18 months the Economy improves the GOP does not have a prayer."
That was funny. Tell me how Obama business handicapping policies are going to turn the economy around in 18 months when it hasn't worked in 23 months yet?lol Only 39,000 jobs were created in the month of November. The unemployment rate is up to 9.8% The only way this economy is going to turn around under Barry before election day is if this was a alternate reality lol. Obama's approval numbers are at 37%. Face facts Montana, the hop and change express has been derailed, and the demonetization of palin in a presidential race won't help him.
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Honestly when Palin first hit the stage I was amazed by her, but as time went by I was let down.
While her gaffes hurt her, her decision to quit her job as governor really hurt her credibility as a future candidate, her popularity and earning potential nonwithstanding.
Palin's negatives are super high, and there recently was a PPP poll shown on RCP that showed Obama losing in Missouri to all potential Republican candidates except Palin.
She's a good fundraiser, she's exciting, but I don't think she could win in a general election, and frankly after the disaster of Obama I want someone with a PROVEN RECORD OF COMPETENCE, a la Mitch Daniels.
anon "Honestly when Palin first hit the stage I was amazed by her, but as time went by I was let down."
Nobody is perfect.
anon" While her gaffes hurt her, her decision to quit her job as governor really hurt her credibility as a future candidate, her popularity and earning potential nonwithstanding."
What gaffes hurt her exactly? Also, she resigned as governor to raise the money to pay off her legal bills due to the frivilious ethic violation suits that were filed again her. I don't fault her for something I would have done myself if I was in her shoes. Would her credibility have been ok if she stayed in office and had to file bankruptcy because of the crushing legal debt? The quitting issue is so incredibility lame in my book when the facts are put on the table.
anon "Palin's negatives are super high, and there recently was a PPP poll shown on RCP that showed Obama losing in Missouri to all potential Republican candidates except Palin."
Her negatives among who? Obama's negatives were high among republicans when he ran, now they are still high among republicans but they are now high among independents as well. His approval rating is at 39%. When he took office, it was around 65%. I don't care about popularity contests as much as I care about what perspective candidate represents and embraces the values of conservatives. The media and try and make conservatives and republicans pick the so called "ideal" candidate, I won't fall for that. That is how in part the GOP got stock with McCain in the first place.
anon "She's a good fundraiser, she's exciting, but I don't think she could win in a general election, and frankly after the disaster of Obama I want someone with a PROVEN RECORD OF COMPETENCE, a la Mitch Daniels."
Who ever thought that Obama with a resume so thin, a very shady background, serious questions of his beliefs could become president? The people who take issue with Palin would also take issue with Reagan if he was alive today and was considered a presidential candidate. Until a valid, factual argument can be made to why Palin wouldn't be a strong candidate, it's just here say.
Guess what Joe, military generals have a boss and take orders! I'll let you ponder who that boss might be...
You give Mamie far too much credit.
So we agree that Palin is an airhead... Nice to know you're seeing the light!
And we also agree that she had and still has the more serious presidential resume. So, whoever said that you couldn't teach a trapped monkey to let go of a banana musta been wrong...
I try to be as respectful as I can to everyone on this blog by giving my opinions in a straight forward and to the point manner. I'm just not onto name calling or animal metaphors.
"Secondly, how stupid can you, or any other Palin supporter be to contend..."
I can only suppose that "lying" and contradicting yourself is what you ARE into.
Thanks for playing p. anthony. Better luck next time.
Alphie: Please enlighten us on how many jobs were created by "W" in 4 years or Palin in her half term, come on, that my friend is the real joke, but of course, you will give some excuse. Thanks for the laughs Al.
Montana "Alphie: Please enlighten us on how many jobs were created by "W" in 4 years or Palin in her half term, come on, that my friend is the real joke, but of course, you will give some excuse. Thanks for the laughs Al."
You've brought great amusement to me and the blog, no I thank you Montana. To answer your question, all you have to do is look add the amount of private sector jobs created after the bush tax cuts were signed up until 2006 before the housing bubble burst. When Kerry ran for president in 2004, the unemployment rate was 5.4% "which was considered FULL EMPLOYMENT" by many economists. After the 2 years of Obama, the unemployment rate stands at 9.8%^
That is a 4.4% difference. Oh yeah, Obama said that once his stimulus was passed, the unemployment rate wasn't going to go pass 8%. It's safe to say he was wrong on that. Isn't this all just so "funny"? ;-) Right now, this is all about Barry and HIS ECONOMY. In his word, jobs were "created OR saved". Explain what that means montana. Palin wouldn't never say something stupid like that I know. Does created OR saved means to chose your illusion or what?
Lets see what we have here Joe. This is what you wrote in return...
"Secondly, how stupid can you, or any other Palin supporter be to contend..."
I can only suppose that "lying" and contradicting yourself is what you ARE into.
Thanks for playing p. anthony. Better luck next time"
This is what I originally wrote in response to you assertions...
"All due respect Joe, but belief in a nitwitted politician can cause you to say stupid things. The "experience" arguement has never been legit, frankly it's a silly point of view.
I went on the say; "Secondly, how stupid can you, or any other Palin supporter be to contend that Palin (who quit her job as governor after a year and a half) somehow "still" has more experience at being president, than the person serving as president???.
Again, I'm not trying to upset up, I am merely debating the issue. If you're offended by my accusation that "you or any other Palin supporter is stupid", then again, I apologize.
I often refer to statements and accusations that I see as nonsense, as being "stupid." Now that I see that you don't like being referred to a stupid, I'll reserve the term for those who can handle it.
I'm not a bad guy. I don't mean to offend anyone. If there's anything else you don't like, let me know! I'll make a special effort to make my response's to you totally free of anything that might offend you.
p allen ""All due respect Joe, but belief in a nitwitted politician can cause you to say stupid things. The "experience" argument has never been legit, frankly it's a silly point of view."
You mean like Obama claiming to have visited 57 states.
Him saying his father helped to liberate jews from the Auschwitz.
Obama saying on Memorial day that he was looking at fallen hereos in the audience.
Obama being confused between the differences between a breathalyzer and an isolator
Obama claiming that we need to spend over a trillion dollars to create "shovel ready" jobs just for him to now say that "shovel ready jobs" don't exist.
So, you said something about a "nitwitted" politician?
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