Half the man he use to be: Newt Gingrich is officially running for President.
Well, the so called " intellectual"of the conservative movement has officially thrown his hat into the ring to run for the Republican nomination for president.
I'm nowhere even close to being a supporter of Newt Gingrich. I use to respect him way back in the day, when he was the Speaker of House. Back then, Newt understood what it meant to be a principled conservative. These days, he's nothing more then a Republican establishment hack. To understand how Newt changed his spots, all one has to do is go back to the New York District twenty three congressional race between conservative Doug Hoffman, Republican liberal Dede Scozzafava and Democratic liberal Bill Owens. Doug was a principled conservative in the primaries, and he didn't sellout his principals by backing Dede in the general election, instead he ran as a conservative. Now Newt was suppose to have been a core paleoconservative. The overwhelming majority of true conservatives supported Doug Hoffman in the race, Newt on the other hand placed his support behind the Republican establishment liberal Debe Scozzafava. This is Newt doing damage control, when Debe dropped out of the race and then backed Bill Owens who ultimately won the race.
There wasn't enough hours in the day for Newt to come up with a validate excuse to why he backed Debe in the first place, none. No core conservative wouldn't have done it. The Republican National Committee only cared about winning that seat, and Newt took his marching orders to have tried to make that happen. Conservatives haven't forgotten either.
I still can't explain why Newt over the years have been traveling cross country with the likes of Al Sharpton. I wouldn't even want to breath the same air as that race hustling fool if we were in the same room, so what's Newt excuse? This is Sharpton and Newt at a press conference to talk about joining forces for "education reform".
If Newt was as smart as some people give him credit for, he would have realized that it is people who share the same ideological views as Sharpton that have messed up the public school system in America to begin with. Liberal teachers and administrators run the public schools in America not conservatives. If this doesn't put a death nail into the coffin of any chances of a Newt Gingrich nomination, nothing will. This is Newt Ginrich back in 2007 talking to John Kerry on the bogus issue of "climate change". Here is Newt saying "The evidence is sufficient to move towards the most effective possible steps to reduce carbon loading in the atmosphere."
Newt's isn't the same man who helped to sphere head the "contract with America". The name is the same, but the man isn't. Newt might have the name recognition, but that is all his has going for him.
I'm nowhere even close to being a supporter of Newt Gingrich. I use to respect him way back in the day, when he was the Speaker of House. Back then, Newt understood what it meant to be a principled conservative. These days, he's nothing more then a Republican establishment hack. To understand how Newt changed his spots, all one has to do is go back to the New York District twenty three congressional race between conservative Doug Hoffman, Republican liberal Dede Scozzafava and Democratic liberal Bill Owens. Doug was a principled conservative in the primaries, and he didn't sellout his principals by backing Dede in the general election, instead he ran as a conservative. Now Newt was suppose to have been a core paleoconservative. The overwhelming majority of true conservatives supported Doug Hoffman in the race, Newt on the other hand placed his support behind the Republican establishment liberal Debe Scozzafava. This is Newt doing damage control, when Debe dropped out of the race and then backed Bill Owens who ultimately won the race.
There wasn't enough hours in the day for Newt to come up with a validate excuse to why he backed Debe in the first place, none. No core conservative wouldn't have done it. The Republican National Committee only cared about winning that seat, and Newt took his marching orders to have tried to make that happen. Conservatives haven't forgotten either.
I still can't explain why Newt over the years have been traveling cross country with the likes of Al Sharpton. I wouldn't even want to breath the same air as that race hustling fool if we were in the same room, so what's Newt excuse? This is Sharpton and Newt at a press conference to talk about joining forces for "education reform".
If Newt was as smart as some people give him credit for, he would have realized that it is people who share the same ideological views as Sharpton that have messed up the public school system in America to begin with. Liberal teachers and administrators run the public schools in America not conservatives. If this doesn't put a death nail into the coffin of any chances of a Newt Gingrich nomination, nothing will. This is Newt Ginrich back in 2007 talking to John Kerry on the bogus issue of "climate change". Here is Newt saying "The evidence is sufficient to move towards the most effective possible steps to reduce carbon loading in the atmosphere."
Newt's isn't the same man who helped to sphere head the "contract with America". The name is the same, but the man isn't. Newt might have the name recognition, but that is all his has going for him.
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The Al Sharptons of the world have screwed up America, they are the antithesis of conservatism, integrity, self-reliance, self-respect and most importantly taking personal responsibility as opposed to seeking to blame others.
The liberals are the real racists in this country insomuch as they have bought into the snake oil Sharpton sells, chiefly that blacks are so hobbled, so crippled by historical injustices and countless failings of white society, some real, some perceived, that they are inferior, unable to achieve anything without perpetual help and intercession by guilty whites and bleeding hearts.
Strangely, Sharpton WANTS whites to believe blacks are inferior, and play on their guilt, namely that white society is the cause, otherwise there is no reason for Shaprton to exist.
Other recent immigrants, even blacks from Africa quickly surpass American blacks as a group because American blacks have been trained to rely on handouts and kept in a perpetual sate of need and as a permanent underclass dependent on crumbs from the Democrats.
I'm surprised that Newt would breathe the same air as Sharpton.
No thanks Newt.
Tyrone your last paragraph says it all:
“Newt's isn't the same man who helped to sphere head the "contract with America". The name is the same, but the man isn't. Newt might have the name recognition, but that is all his has going for him.”
Newt is the penultimate beliver in using government to "do good (mostly liberal) things". We need to take government OUT of the "do gooding" business.
Mike is either a disenchanted Black man, or some White guy playing the race card..."face down"!
In many Black communities self-reliance is a way of life. Although it's a crying shame, young black boys don't tote pistols in an effort to protect the helpless in the neighborhood.
Self respect is a learned attribute which indeed in many poor communities has been stripped away by disease, drugs and alcohol. Contrary to your conservative beliefs, personal responsibility is "given" or "taught" in the human realm, not "taken" like the labor of a slave, or the land of another. In the hood, social functionality while intoxicated on drugs and alcohol is a bit different. Typically the junkie wasn't born with a silver spoon, isn't married to the company C.E.O., or has a medical or law degree.
Mike;"Strangely, Sharpton WANTS whites to believe blacks are inferior, and play on their guilt, namely that white society is the cause, otherwise there is no reason for Shaprton to exist".
Conservative Talking Point? A conservative think tank contrived idea for sure.
I would never think, nor try to believe that ANY other man would want me to believe that Blacks were inferior to other human beings. I think you got Sharpton mixed up with David Duke, White South Africans or some other White Supremacists. (perhaps your father, grand or great grand parents...)
Here's the rub Mike... In just two short postings I can just about tell where you stand politically and socially. In all honesty I would love it if "ALL" Black men were more like President Obama, or even Al Sharpton.
Conversely, I wouldn't have any qualms if all black me were like Alan Keyes, or Tyrone. Hell, it would be nice if every Black man was like Clarence Thomas! However, just taking from what you've written thus far, I believe you'd be staunchly against anyone taking up anywhere near a virtue of Barak Obama. Am I right?
If I am, it shows how closed minded conservatives are.
I heard Rick Santorum Pennsylvania, supported Arlen Spector who turned Democrat from Republican. I don't know if all this is true but likewise don't like hearing this though I like what Santorum says. These politicians will come under greater scrutiny. I've liked things I've heard Gingrich said but that is bad if he did support this liberal Republican you mentioned. If the election were held today or a primary in my state, I'd have no problem voting for Cain.
Sharpton:"We must have equal education for ALL American young people".
When you say "all" Al, do you mean white, black, Hispanic and Asian, etc.? Usually Al, you are for the black cause, which for years you've exploited for your benefit.
Little old ladies in the Mid-west are not going to line up outside of polling places in the pouring rain to vote for a crumb-bum that left his wife in a hospital, suffering from cancer for another. Period. Link
Speedy "Newt is the penultimate beliver in using government to "do good (mostly liberal) things". We need to take government OUT of the "do gooding" business."
Newt reminds me of Bush with his "compassionate" conservatism tag. Hopefully Newt will sink to second tier candidate status. Newt has become a big government neocon. He's no different then the GOP establishment. If Newt tries to go after any other candidate, he will definitely open himself up for massive attacks by the rest of the field. I look forward to seeing that happen.
Mike "The Al Sharptons of the world have screwed up America, they are the antithesis of conservatism, integrity, self-reliance, self-respect and most importantly taking personal responsibility as opposed to seeking to blame others."
I have yet to hear a sermon preached by the so called reverend Sharpton. The man has no morals. He and his progressive friends use that title of Reverend as a way to mask what he truly stands for. The same for Jackson. When those two are finally taking their dirt naps, race relations in America will improve 1000%.
Mike "The liberals are the real racists in this country insomuch as they have bought into the snake oil Sharpton sells, chiefly that blacks are so hobbled, so crippled by historical injustices and countless failings of white society, some real, some perceived, that they are inferior, unable to achieve anything without perpetual help and intercession by guilty whites and bleeding hearts. "
Of course, liberals believe blacks and other minority groups are so stupid, that is why they advocate "lowering the passing grades" for certain civil positions within police and fire departments. They make the ludicrous statements that certain tests are "racist". That is mind numbing to hear them say that. They truly believe that blacks are incapable of learning the same test material as whites. So you are right Mike, they are the real racists. The conservative mindset would say that black applicants need to just study harder and keep taking the tests until they pass them. Lowering the bar doesn't help a person, it handicaps them.
p allen "In many Black communities self-reliance is a way of life. Although it's a crying shame, young black boys don't tote pistols in an effort to protect the helpless in the neighborhood. "
Don't make me laugh allen!!! Whenever a Republican talks about reforming a social program in congress, liberals espcially black ones are the first ones yelling, THAT' RACIST!!!! Liberals called Paul Ryan's road map racist, because they said it would "hurt blacks the most". When Bush talked about reforming Social Security, here came liberals again screaming, that reforming social security would "hurt blacks the most". If Section 8 housing is cut, liberals would yet again say that "it is racist and will hurt blacks the most". So where is this self reliance thing you are talking about allen". So either cuts or reforms in social programs won't hurt blacks the most or Liberals are using blacks as a prop in order to defend the programs, which one is it allen?
p allen "Conservative Talking Point? A conservative think tank contrived idea for sure. "
Why is every freaking card in the liberal deck a race card and a tax cuts are for the rich card?
JD Curtis" Little old ladies in the Mid-west are not going to line up outside of polling places in the pouring rain to vote for a crumb-bum that left his wife in a hospital, suffering from cancer for another. "
I like this one better. Republicans want old folks to eat dog food not the gourmet dog food either. Republicans want old people to eat Wal Mart dog food that was made by non union workers without any health care. lol lol
p allen "Mike is either a disenchanted Black man, or some White guy playing the race card..."face down"! "
The truth hurts allen, oh well.
@p You make my case for me, thanks!
Newt's a smart guy, but he's also a "government solution" guy... in other words... a useful idiot that the Left can (and will) manipulate.
Conversely, I wouldn't have any qualms if all black me were like Alan Keyes, or Tyrone. Hell, it would be nice if every Black man was like Clarence Thomas! However, just taking from what you've written thus far, I believe you'd be staunchly against anyone taking up anywhere near a virtue of Barak Obama. Am I right?
...and conversely, I wouldn't have any qualms if every MAN was black like Clarence Thomas! However the "virtue" of Barak Obama is the polar OPPOSITE of the "virtue" of Clarence Thomas. And THAT is where we part company, p. anthony.
Joe;"However the "virtue" of Barak Obama is the polar OPPOSITE of the "virtue" of Clarence Thomas".
You call into question the "virtue" of President Obama based upon your personal political opinions and beliefs. Just as I could question Thomas's virtue based on mine. However, that's not the point I'm putting forward here.
Are you aware of the plight of the Black man in America? The 70% out-of-wedlock birth rate? The large percentage of Black male incarceration? Violent and misogynist lyrics mostly promoted by young Black recording artist, as so on?
What I'm saying is, as Black men go in America, would it be nice to have "every" Black man emulate the social successes of either Thomas or President Obama? I say this without regard to an individual's political ideology.
p allen "You call into question the "virtue" of President Obama based upon your personal political opinions and beliefs. Just as I could question Thomas's virtue based on mine. However, that's not the point I'm putting forward here."
I know you addressed joe, but I am going to add my two cents also allen. Obama has no virtue at all, period. He flipped off Hillary Clinton while supposedly praising her back in the 2008 primaries for running a good race.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhkq11UExcw
I call into question Obama's virtue based on his life's experiences and actions allen.
Joe Conservative "Newt's a smart guy, but he's also a "government solution" guy... in other words... a useful idiot that the Left can (and will) manipulate."
It was fun watching Newt tap dance around his own words thrown back at him this morning on Meet the Press.
Here's a short story concerning a conversation I had with another Black (staunchly almost to the extreme) conservative.
I asked, basically, that same question concerning the social accomplishments, self confidence and perseverance of Barack Obama, to a staunchly conservative Black man. I explained my point of view in the exact same manner as here. Needless to say that I was completely shocked when he vehemently exclaimed that he would rather see black men locked up, killing each other, and basically left the way things are now, rather than "every black man emulating Barack Obama."
My reply to him was that there's no need to "prefer" such a thing, he's already got his wish...
If you only had two choices Joe, the two being; vast number of Black men not marrying, not caring for their children, little to no education, incarcerated, etc..., or every Black man emulating President Obama, which would you choose?
CB;"He flipped off Hillary Clinton while supposedly praising her back in the 2008 primaries".
Oh please Tyrone. If he was "flipping-off" Clinton, he certainly didn't do it with forethought. G.W. Bush shows you how to flip someone off.
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The out of wedlock and crime rate is directly due to liberalism, feminism and the democratic agenda.
Prior to the great society, black out of wedlock rates were below whites.
Obama has not achieved and social success, he is a narcissistic anti-social, angry misfit.
We have a huge problem with fatherlessness, especially in the black community. What does Obama do? Bashes men and fathers.
There is a HUGE difference between this president and many others, and sorry for you, but it is NOT his skin color.
cb:"I call into question Obama's virtue based on his life's experiences and actions allen".
Don't you mean "particular" life experiences Tyrone. The life experiences you might have "read" or "heard" about, which some (if not all) you don't agree with based on your own political beliefs?
I'm not talking about his politics! There are a slew of Republicans and conservatives of which I disagree with their politics, YOU being one of them! Yet, I'll never question or berate any of your social and personal achievements.
I'm talking about his "visible and unquestionable" accomplishments. Hell, he's President of the United States! He's (apparently) happily married. He's a father to his children. He's college educated. He's never been convicted of a crime.
That being said, it's alright for you to disagree with how he exercises or practices his attributes. In this country, as long as you don't break any laws, you're free to think, feel and act as you please.
Now let me ask you...
If you only had two choices, the two being; vast number of Black men not marrying, not caring for their children, little to no education, incarcerated, etc..., or every Black man emulating President Obama, which would you choose?
I salute every man who stands by his family and raises his kids. But the misguided and destructive policies of Barak Obama and the Left are what have lead to a 70% out of wedlock birth rate. I remember the Moynihan report, when the out of wedlock birth rate for black families was only 30% (and it was a considered a real crisis then). And so, if Barack Obama is to be admired, it's in his personally NOT relying on the social benefits and safety net that he and his pro-government plantation bureaucrats have fashioned. It in acting in a manner that runs directly counter to the so-called "virtues" that Barak Obama extols, of indiscrimination in poverty and between citizens and metics. In not taking to the trouble to discriminate between the poor that through no fault of their own are in need of help (widows/orphans), and those that just don't give enough of a damn to actually raise their own kids (drunks/drug addicts). I salute Barak Obama for having a personal ethic that runs directly counter to his public ethic. But his public ethic is the Destruction of America, black, white AND brown.
Mike;"The out of wedlock and crime rate is directly due to liberalism, feminism and the democratic agenda".
Pay attention. The MODERN idea's of, "liberalism, feminism and the democratic agenda", are historically and purely American. Does that means "America" is to blame?
Prior to FDR's New Deal (and as much as 20 years after), how many Blacks held public office? What was the percentage of Black literacy? What was the percentage of Blacks with college degree's?
My point is that, the only social statistic that's affecting blacks negatively is the breakdown of the family unit, which in itself is directly responsible for the increase in crime, and the turnabout in overall literacy rates.
Liberalism struck down Jim Crow laws. Feminism allowed you wife to earn more and put Sarah Palin on the Republican ticket. The Democratic agenda brought the country out of the Great Depression and won WW II. Simply put....America did it!
Mike;"Obama has not achieved and social success, he is a narcissistic anti-social, angry misfit".
That makes him no different than "every president" this nation has ever had.
So, I'll ask you all again....
If you only had two choices, the two being; vast number of Black men not marrying, not caring for their children, little to no education, incarcerated, etc..., or every Black man emulating President Obama, which would you choose?
I am what some here as described as a "socialist leftest liberal." Still, if every black man emulated a Clarence Thomas, I would be thrilled!! You all are "self described" conservatives. Answer the question...
P You are way off base.
FDR and the democrats actually made the depression longer.
Fatherlessnes and the breakdown of the family is to blame, but you have the source wrong.
The progressives and liberals gave us feminism to remove religion and destroy the family, not help it.
The root causes of violence are many and the issues are complicated. The liberals and progressives would have you believe inner-city violence is simply because we here in the city are all victims of poverty and discrimination and all we need are a few more programs and create a few more entitlements and special classes of people to protect. But repeatedly telling folks they are presently and historically oppressed victims and can’t ever succeed on their own without intervention from a supposedly benevolent, altruistic and superior class, usually liberal politicians, does more for those politicians and the abatement of “white guilt” then for the folks they claim to care about and just continues the cycle by creating a permanent underclass dependent on the crumbs thrown to them by the liberal elite.
The main reason for inner-city violence in my opinion, is the rise of feminism, liberal and progressive extremism leading to a breakdown of the Nuclear family, particularly fatherlessnes and the lack of strong male leadership, male role-models and clearly defined gender roles, compounded by the rejection of morality and religion, both in the home and in society in general.
In my neighborhood, criminal and anti-social behavior are normal and glorified, my nephews are told they are acting too “white”. Respect for our laws, our fellow humans, not to mention life itself is disappearing and society is breaking down.
What do you expect happens when generation after generation, fatherless ten-year-old boys have no one to look up to, or guide them, to teach them how to behave or take responsibility for their actions other than other fatherless, inner-city sixteen-year-old high school dropouts?
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Yes, other politicians lie, but Obama is very different from just about any politician or president we have had. Foremost is his desire to radically transform America into something quite horrific.
He would gladly destroy capitalism and even welcome riots al la Greece and London if it helped his dream of a Utopian socialist Marxist society. Furthermore he is very insidious, extremely deceptive and cunning and he has surrounded himself with other like creatures and placed many of them in key positions in our government. And to top it off, his incompetence is only exceeded by his arrogance and his “do as I say” view about others.
While other politicians may lie to get elected, for personal greed and self-serving motives, what makes Obama so dangerous is that he lies chiefly to further his cause, not just to get re-elected. To him, the ends justifies the means.
Oh, and here is a great short video on Obama and Fatherlessness in America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn1zLBlfBrU
And here is a good post about his stand on Fathers
Obama, raised fatherless, denigrates men, harms children, and promotes single motherhood with executive order signed yesterday.
Obama, raised fatherless, denigrates men, harms children, and promotes single motherhood with executive order signed yesterday.
http://www.politicalcowardice.com/2009/03/obama-raised-fatherless-denigrates-men-harms-children-and-promotes-single-parenthood-with-executive-order-signed-yesterday
Mike;"The progressives and liberals gave us feminism to remove religion and destroy the family, not help it".
Feminism: in theory, a collection of movements aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, and social rights and equal opportunities for women.
America styled freedom gave us feminism. American "human beings" (liberal and conservative)interpret the statement, "all men (and women) are created equal" written in the Constitution of the United States, as being a fundamental right. Thus, like so many other issues (Jim Crow, suffrage, Brown v. Brd of Ed., abortion rights and so on) they were settled in America courts, by American jurists according to America law and the constitution.
Thus, you can blame feminism and liberals (which btw, is a contrived right-wing talking point) till the cows come home.
So, if "feminism" is what you see as the cause of despair, the only way to satisfy your "conservative" woes is to remove equal political, economic, and social rights and equal opportunities for women. Campaign on that and see how far it gets you....
Now, as far as the question I asked, it seems as though I won't get a response. Although, I will say this; Like many, not all, of the Black conservatives that I know personally, you seem (I say seem because I don't know you) to be completely wrapped up in a political ideology that dictates "what to believe", not "how to believe."
With the plight of incarceration, drugs, lack of education, deadbeat fathers, etc, of many Black men, only a misguided soul would be against "all Black men" emulating a socially successful Black man...regardless of his political ideology!
If one little black girl who was growing up without a father, and headed for a life of drugs and welfare babies, decided in her own mind that she wanted to emulate the success of Sarah Palin, and began to take the steps in doing so, my response would be "you go girl!" Though I still believe that politically, she's a dim wit.
Mike;"He would gladly destroy capitalism and even welcome riots al la Greece and London if it helped his dream of a Utopian socialist Marxist society".
You forgot that he'd enforce outlaw Christianity, "Sharia law", have old people killed, take control of all private business, take all rich peoples money and give it to Black people, put Glenn Beck and others in concentration camps, appoint Hugo Chavez as Secretary of State, and have Ronald Reagans name stricken from the history books, and put a boogie man under every 4 year old's bed!
Title IX all around, right p. anthony? After all, Men don't need wrestling or gymnastics teams...
...and women MUST be 1/2 of all college graduates. Wait, they're 2/3 now... hmmmmmmmm. And that glass ceiling HAS to come down. Women are now officially "behind" 44-0 in President's of the USA. The next 44 presidents MUST be women...
How's manufacturing "equality" working out for you?
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That would be where he would begin, but only a start.
This might clear some things up about Newt but who knows.
http://youtu.be/rEmh3s32Gfw
I have nothing against feminism but what type of feminism are we talking about here? 1920s where women were strong, smart yet still elegant and mostly traditional or 1960s were women wanted to be just like the guys, very post-modern progressive and overly selfish.
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