Chicago White Sox player Ozzie Guillen tells a reporter how he "really feels" about actor Sean Penn.
Ozzie Guillen is a native born Venezuelan, and he doesn't think very kindly of the foreign dictator's favorite useful progressive idiot Sean Penn. The reason why Guillien isn't keen on Penn is, because Sean Penn is going around giving the false impression on how great the country of Venezuela is. The problem with Sean's assertion about Guillien's home country is that Sean has come to his conclusion from his grand guided tour of the country by Hugo Chavez and his cronies. Ozzie Guillien knows the "real Venezuela". He knows all about the poverty and lower standards of living under Hugo Chavez. It's hard not to understand why Ozzie Guillen sees Sean Penn as a loser. I would add the word clueless in front of loser.
If the interview he had with the reporter was no holds barred, I'm more then certain Ozzie would have had some real harsh words for Sean Penn. Progressives are really clueless people, yet they claim to be so smart. People like Michael Moore go around giving the false impression that the Cuba is some grand paradise with state of art health care. Michael Moore stupidity about Cuba was spoofed beyond perfection in the movie "An American Carol".
Progressives can't even tell the truth about the greatness of America, so why would it come as a surprise they would tell the truth about other countries that aren't friendly to America and are much worse off?
If the interview he had with the reporter was no holds barred, I'm more then certain Ozzie would have had some real harsh words for Sean Penn. Progressives are really clueless people, yet they claim to be so smart. People like Michael Moore go around giving the false impression that the Cuba is some grand paradise with state of art health care. Michael Moore stupidity about Cuba was spoofed beyond perfection in the movie "An American Carol".
Progressives can't even tell the truth about the greatness of America, so why would it come as a surprise they would tell the truth about other countries that aren't friendly to America and are much worse off?
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 5:44 PM
32 Comments:
Great post! Do you mind if I steal parts of it? I lived in Caracas for four years. I KNOW the Venezuela that Ozzie is talking about. It's NOT Sean Penn's "Venezuela".
It's not Danny Glover's Venezuela from his Potemkin Village Tour where he got his $30 million dollar financial "donation" to make movies about Haitian dictators... or the Naomi Campbell Potemkin Village and Celebrity Image make-over tour.
At least Harry Belefonti ADMITS he's a commie when he's in Cuba or Venezuela... he just doesn't admit it when in the USA
The Hollyweird Left LOVE Hugo Chavez. Oliver Stone even tried to cash in on the dictator, but no one who knew Hugo Chavez in Venezuela was buying...
Oliver Stone on the FARC terrorists that Hugo Chavez give's sanctuary from the Columbian Army...
"I do think that by the standards of Western civilization they go too far; they kidnap innocent people. On the other hand, they're fighting a desperate battle against highly financed, American-supported forces who have been terrorizing the countryside for years and kill most of the people. FARC is fighting back as best it can and grabbing hostages is the fashion in which they can finance themselves and try to achieve their goals, which are difficult. They're a peasant army; I see them as a Zapata-like army. I think they are heroic to fight for what they believe in and die for it, as was Castro in the hills of Cuba."
I guess what Stone REALLY likes is all the Columbian cocaine that FARC exports and HE consumes...
Of course, Hugo, Evo and Fidel want to take Coca international...
Hugo says he takes it EVERY day....
I wonder if he consumes as much as Oliver Stone?
I with this baseball players comments would get more exposure.
The useful idiots on the left need to wake up. In this day and age, how can someone like Sean Penn be so stupid?
I understand that fat pig, the Leni Reifenstahl of our age, Michael Moore. He's just a hateful greedy bastard that hates the capitalism that feeds him, he just loves making money no matter how you sell your soul to do it.
But the rest of them have no excuse. Haven't any of them heard of Walter Duranty for Pete's sake?
Excellent blog, sir!
"Chicago White Sox player Ozzie Guillen"
That should be "former White Sox player" and present "Manager" of the Chicago White Sox. I believe Guillen also played in Baltimore for a year or two. The game of Baseball must not be one of your favorites...huh Tyrone? lol
Speedy, sure take what you need. When progressives talk about the cities, they always bring up the downtown skyline and select trendy neighborhoods. They always "forget" to mention the gritty parts of the cites that are mostly it's core. As always, never expect progressives to be honest and to exaggerate anything as long as it works in their favor. I forgot by Danny Blubber. It was nice watching his character die as the president in the movie 2012. That was the funniest part of the movie. Harry, Danny and Sean support communists, yet under a communist dictatorship, these three idiots wouldn't nowhere come close to enjoying the lifestyles they are experience under the evil capitalist society.
p allen "That should be "former White Sox player" and present "Manager" of the Chicago White Sox. I believe Guillen also played in Baltimore for a year or two. The game of Baseball must not be one of your favorites...huh Tyrone? lol
As usual allen, you can't attack the core basis of what I said, you can only nit pick at semantics that are irrelevant to it. You can't dispute anything Ozzie Guillen said about Sean Pean as being false, so you are now trying to redirect the narrative. Give it up allen. Just like in baseball, you keep going for that big home run swing, yet you keep only coming up with air, lots and lots of air.
Silverfiddle "The useful idiots on the left need to wake up. In this day and age, how can someone like Sean Penn be so stupid?
Well Silverfiddle, if liberals actually had a clue, they wouldn't be such useful idiots to third world dictators. So I don't see them having a brain storm anytime soon. Sean like other progressives live in hollyweird, where reality doesn't exist. These types of people aren't use to the real world like you and me. They see murderous dictators as the good guys. I don't know how they've come to think the way they do. Maybe they've snorted one line of coke too many in their Hollywood mansions, who knows.
Of course Sean Penn will say that Venezuela is "great", he's been in best parts of the country because he can afford it.
I would like him take up Ozzie Guillen's offer, and see if he would change his tone.
This reminds me of the time before we invaded Iraq and overthrew Saddam Hussein, he visited the country and "saw nothing wrong with it". An Iraqi student here in the states, I asked her about her views on Saddam, she told me she's glad he's gone.
And Sean Penn wonders why he and other actors have been lampooned in "Team America: World Police".
CB;"As usual allen, you can't attack the core basis of what I said, you can only nit pick at semantics that are irrelevant to it. You can't dispute anything Ozzie Guillen said about Sean Pean as being false".
Come on now Tyrone, get off your high horse and don't get your Fruit of the Looms all in a bunch...
It should be obvious that I could care less what Guillen says about Hugo Chavez or Sean Penn. Hell, I'm no fan of Hugo Chavez either. As far as Sean Penn goes, if he want's to be a worldly geopolitical type activist...hey, more power to him.
As for Guillen, he was a good player and has proven himself to be just as good a manager. Although we might agree with his assessment concerning Penn, I hardly think "you" would agree with Guillen's opposition to the Arizona SB1070 Law. Guillen has been known to be one who speaks his mind. He did no less on the Arizona Law...
"Believe me, we’re pretty smart,” Guillen said. “We come all the way from Mexico, Guatemala, Venezuela, and you’ve got to cross the border and we did it. We’re going to spread all over the place. We’re going to keep moving around. We’re not leaving because we’re not doing anything wrong.".
Speedy, sure take what you need.
Gracias!
We’re not leaving because we’re not doing anything wrong.".
Exactly. Ozzie came here legally. There's NOTHING at ALL wrong with THAT!
Sean Penn and his moronic fellow travelers add Hollywood legitimacy to a murderous regime.
BTW alpha, I noticed your RSS feed is not turned on.
Speedy;"Exactly. Ozzie came here legally. There's NOTHING at ALL wrong with THAT!".
Ozzie didn't "come" here legally. Like hundreds of other pro ball players from south of the border, he was "brought" here legally. Of course, there's "nothing wrong with that!" However, if Ozzie Guillen could not hit and catch a baseball, you wouldn't even know he existed.
He also added;
“This country could not survive without Mexicans, all the Latinos,” Guillen said. “They cannot live without us. A lot of people from this country, they’re very lazy".
"Guillen said Hispanic workers forced out of Arizona would cross into other states to find work".
Is there "NOTHING at ALL wrong with THAT?"
Furthermore Speedy, if you read the article, you'll see that the context of his statements are not exclusive of those not brought here [legally] to play Baseball. His comments reflected a sentiment for all Latino immigrants, legal and illegal.
glover never went to the Black slums where Hugo forces them to live. He is a fool and for a sad representative of acting, he needs to move to Cuba or see Hugo and live. He wil then see how Blacks there really live. All of the dictators use useful zurkas to exploits idiots in the Western world.
When Obama became president, the Blacks all over the third world wanted him to free them from slavery, but instead he aided the captors. No Black faces are seen
in the Arab world as equals, because they are not equal.
Glover and his ilk, have a chance to stop Black slavery, but they dont even try. As Farakhan said during his trip to Sudan, formerly Nubia, its tribal. Arab tribes vs Black African. China wants the oil in Africa and could care less, Black or Arab. Let them fight and die!
Tyrone, the idea I'm trying to get across here is that you're "using" Ozzie Guillen to state your dislike for Sean Penn. I mean, isn't it obvious that any poverty born "former" Venezuelan whose come to America, and now living the American dream, would show some disdain for the dictator they once lived under?
CB;"You can't dispute anything Ozzie Guillen said about Sean Pean as being false, so you are now trying to redirect the narrative".
I'm not attempting to dispute what Guillen said about Penn. Guillen has his opinion. If he thinks Penn is a loser, fine...Penn is a loser. However, why do you need Gullien to say it?
With concern to the socio-political aspect of Guillen's statement, what does he contribute to the conservative cause? From what I'm seeing, it's nothing but contempt for Sean Penn...or better still, Penn's involvement with Hugo Chavez.
Conservatives hate Sean Penn. That's the only reason why you're "using" the Guillen video clip. And that's why I sited Gullien's stance on illegal immigrants. Gullien was one of, if not the first Latino MLB player to speak out against the Arizona law. He also stated that he would boycott the Arizona 2011 MLB All-Star game.
This is what Gullien told a New York Post reporter last year about the Arizona law;
"If that happens in Arizona, we [Latinos] are smart: We’re going to move to San Diego. If it happens in California, we’re going to go to Colorado. I don’t care what they do, we’re staying," Guillen said. "It’s easy going from Arizona to Nevada; you just drive. You know what’s tough? Coming from Guatemala to the U.S. That’s hard".
So my point is that, if Gulliens comments on illegal immigrants were given enough media attention, conservatives would be slamming him up and down over his "opinions."
Instead, as conservatives do, you just use him because he said something that you can use to attack someone, or something that's all along been in the "conservative cross-hairs." But as soon as he makes hay of a conservative pet peeve, I'm sure FOX Nation's comments section will fill up with calls for Guillen to be sent back to Venezuela. (such as these comments).
Of course Ozzie states the obvious about an actor who really has never had an intelligent thought in his life.
p. Anthony Allen said: Although we might agree with his assessment concerning Penn, I hardly think "you" would agree with Guillen's opposition to the Arizona SB1070 Law. Guillen has been known to be one who speaks his mind. He did no less on the Arizona Law...
Are you suggesting like most Latin Americans, that Guillen should be consistent with others who are against the Arizona immigration law?
In case you are forgetting Allen, Guillen, and other foreign athletes who are here in the U.S., are here on a visa.
But, if Guillen, has become an American citizen, he did it by the books and not climbed over a fence.
Speaking as someone who has made 6 seperate trips to Venezuela and 6 seperate trips to Colombia in the last decade, I can say that Guillen is right.
Alvaro Uribe was the best thing that possibly could have happened to Colombia. Every time I went there, the security situation along with economic conditions improved a little bit, but noticeably.
I contrast that with Venezuela which got a little worse each time I went.
Chavez is destroying that country. Period. As this billboard begins to demonstrate how unhinged he really is.
Anon;"Are you suggesting like most Latin Americans, that Guillen should be consistent with others who are against the Arizona immigration law?".
Nooo...I'm saying that Guillen, by his own statements, is staunchly "against" the Arizona law.
I'm not saying that he supports people coming to America illegally. I'm saying that according to his own statements, that it appears that he supports (at the very least) amnesty for the illegal Latinos that are already here.
Anon;"But, if Guillen, has become an American citizen, he did it by the books and not climbed over a fence.
Yes, Guillen has become an American citizen. However, what a lot of you fail to understand is that Guillen didn't have to "climb over a fence" to get here. He was "brought" here to play Baseball.
The odds are very likely that if Guillen couldn't catch, hit and throw a baseball, he would be either, one- still languishing in poverty in Venezuela, or, two- climbing a fence to get into the U.S.!
Is there "NOTHING at ALL wrong with THAT?"
If they're illegal, they should go home, apply for a green card, and come back after they get it. It isn't THAT hard, p. anthony... except in your closed "open-borders" mind.
His comments reflected a sentiment for all Latino immigrants, legal and illegal.
Are you implying racism? lol!
p. anthony,
Do you agree with EVERYTHING Barack Obama says and does?
Then how come you aren't condemning him 24/7?
Instead, as conservatives do, you just use him because he said something that you can use to attack someone, or something that's all along been in the "conservative cross-hairs." But as soon as he makes hay of a conservative pet peeve, I'm sure FOX Nation's comments section will fill up with calls for Guillen to be sent back to Venezuela.
Oh, when you AGREE with Obama, he's "da man" but when you disgree, he's not "a bum"?
Try holding conservatives to the same standard you hold yourself for a change, p. anthony. For as much as I'd like to think we're "perfect", I know we're a little "less perfect" than YOU think we are. ;)
p. anthony,
Do you agree with this statement?
“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government can not pay its own bills.. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, "the buck stops here.' Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”
Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006
Speedy;"Are you implying racism? lol!".
No...Do you think it's racism?
Speedy;"Do you agree with EVERYTHING Barack Obama says and does?
Then how come you aren't condemning him 24/7?.
No, I don't agree with "EVERYTHING" he says and does.
I condemned the war in Iraq.
I condemned the bank bailouts.
I condemn the present on going war in Afghanistan.
I condemned the extension of the Bush Tax Cuts.
I condemn how the president allows the Republicans in congress to "dupe" him.
Just to name a few...
Speedy;"Do you agree with this statement?
-Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006-".
Yes, I do. When something was really needed to be done to stop unnecessary spending on an unnecessary war, no one but Senator Obama had the guts to say it. Many of the republicans in congress had no problem with the debt during the Bush years.
"O'Neill said he tried to warn Vice President Dick Cheney that growing budget deficits-expected to top $500 billion this fiscal year alone-posed a threat to the economy. Cheney cut him off. "You know, Paul, Reagan proved deficits don't matter," he said, according to excerpts. Cheney continued: "We won the midterms (congressional elections). This is our due." A month later, Cheney told the Treasury secretary he was fired".
V.P. Dick Cheney, 2004.
From Joe Wilson's unprecedented "you lie" from the floor of congress, to Mitch McConnells "republican main objective for the country is to deny President Obama a second term", to de-facto head republican Rush Limbaugh's inauguration day 2009 wish; "I HOPE HE FAILS." All their energy and efforts are devoted to seeing the Black Democrat fail. Never mind what's good for the country...
Now that he's president, he's been bombarded by an economic crisis that was truly no making of his own. Grant it, it hasn't gotten any better since he's taken over. Yet, since a week after he's taken office, he's been dealing with constant loathing from the republicans in congress.
I can honestly say that President Obama didn't know what he was in for. Go's to show you; Be careful of what you wish for...
Speedy, asking about a previous statement I made;"Oh, when you AGREE with Obama, he's "da man" but when you disgree, he's not "a bum"?.
What in the Sam hill are you talking about?
That statement of mine you posted is in reference to Tyrone using Ozzie Guillen as a pawn to attack Sean Penn. The statement has nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing with President Obama.
What in the Sam hill are you talking about?
Exactly. What was you complaint again? Your argument is incoherent.
Speedy;"Exactly. What was you complaint again? Your argument is incoherent".
For future reference, sometimes I tend to write like I speak. So, I'll reword my statement, and hope you can better understand my intent.
-Instead, as conservatives have been known to do, Tyrone is using Guillens comments only because Gullien spoke out against Sean Penn. Guillen is not a political pundit, he's a major league baseball manager and ex-player. Guillens left his country to live in the U.S. His comments are no different than what any other Venezuelan who's left would say.
Sean Penn has long been a hated target of the right-wing because of his association and fascination with Hugo Chavez. But as soon as Ozzie Guillen says something the conservatives disagree with, (such as amnesty for illegals) conservatives will turn and attack Guillen.
Is that coherent enough?
The statement has nothing to do with President Obama. I hope you will be able to see that it doesn't.
...and so how is this a problem unique to "conservatives". Liberals do the same, don't they?
Hypocrites wagging their fingers and calling out others for their "hypocrisy" is lot of the pot-kettle-black stuff, isn't it?
Do me a favour. Try criticize other people for sins YOU YOURSELF don't commit. Maybe then, somebody will take you seriously.
Speedy;"and so how is this a problem unique to "conservatives". Liberals do the same, don't they?".
Give an example of a liberal commentator who "used" or "uses" non political figures (ie; athletes, actors, etc...) to attack their own, or another political foe.
Typically it's those who are on the left (Janeane Garofalo, Jane Fonda, Sean Penn...) who speak out, and are activist ONE THEIR OWN.
Example;
Let say you're an American who goes to Europe to play Pro Basketball, and you give an interview to the local media. While being interviewed the host asks you your thoughts about President Obama. You being a right-winger, I'm sure you'll have plenty of negative comments. So, after you make your comments, every right-wing media outlet plays your statements, basically "using" you to forward their agenda.
If there are any examples of this type of "journalism" that has come from the left, I'd be more than happy to see or read it. Post at least one...
Speedy;"Do me a favour. Try criticize other people for sins YOU YOURSELF don't commit. Maybe then, somebody will take you seriously".
We don't need to take each other seriously. It's a blog...it aint that serious. All you need to do is voice (type) your opposing view.
How do you know what "sins" I commit? All you know about me is what I type on this blog. How does that make me a "sinner?" I'm just a guy typing my opinions. lol
And frankly, I don't expect you to take anything I say seriously because we are political polar opposites.
Speedy, I post on this blog for this spirit of the debate. I used to post on left-wing sites, but mostly it became a "lovefest" of everybody agreeing with each other. Frankly, it got boring.
So if you want to have spirited debates, fine! If you don't, oh well, just ignore my posts. The choice is yours.
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