So much for civility. Union Leader thug Jimmy Hoffa declares war on the Tea Party and refers to them as "sons of bitches".
As I stated earlier, union labor in this country only presents 11.9% of the work force. Listening to Obama and Jimmy Hoffa speak, one would think that the majority of workers are unionized. Progressives have been the ones using the over the top rhetoric for as long as I can remember, yet they had the nerve to tell conservatives to stop with the violent rhetoric when Congresswoman Gifford was shot. Someone needs to tell that union boss thug Jimmy Hoffa to tone down his violent rhetoric towards the Tea Party.
So they want to "take those sons of bitches out" do they? It's always a recurring theme with these people. They always have to blame others for their own misfortunes. Union membership in America has been declining for decades, and the Tea Party had nothing to do with that. Morons like Hoffa can attack the Tea Party until he is blue in the face, nothing is going to change the continuous decline in the union ranks. The union drones in the audience can clap all they want also. In the end, the unions don't create jobs, they lose them. General Hoffa might want to rethink his battle plans if he is serious about wagging war on the Tea Party. The Tea Party ranks are growing while the union ranks are shrinking.
So they want to "take those sons of bitches out" do they? It's always a recurring theme with these people. They always have to blame others for their own misfortunes. Union membership in America has been declining for decades, and the Tea Party had nothing to do with that. Morons like Hoffa can attack the Tea Party until he is blue in the face, nothing is going to change the continuous decline in the union ranks. The union drones in the audience can clap all they want also. In the end, the unions don't create jobs, they lose them. General Hoffa might want to rethink his battle plans if he is serious about wagging war on the Tea Party. The Tea Party ranks are growing while the union ranks are shrinking.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 3:46 PM
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As I said before, the reason why people like the NAACP, liberals, and the Teamster's Union are going after the Tea Party, because they are afraid of a change.
Obama's slogan, "Change We Can Believe In!"-funny, since he took office, millions of Americans are out of work and we are trillions of dollars in debt. Come to think of it, he did bring change; just not a positive one.
CB;"union labor in this country only presents 11.9% of the work force".
And why do you think that labor unions (manufacturing sector workers) have so few members? Would it have anything to do with the "unemployment rate?" Might it be that so many "union jobs" have been taken out of the country? Just 30 years ago the UAW had more than 1.5 million members. Today they have less than a quarter of that number. The union workers didn't just leave the union, the "JOBS" left the union workers!
anon "As I said before, the reason why people like the NAACP, liberals, and the Teamster's Union are going after the Tea Party, because they are afraid of a change."
Yes, they are afraid. They are afraid that the tea party is going to put a stop to their gravy train. These people are so drunk with power, they don't even see that America is heading towards a steep financial cliff at high speed. It's all about them and nobody else. It would probably be bad if I asked those who are unemployed and voted for Barry O hows that hope and change working out for them. I probably would get cursed out. lol
p allen "And why do you think that labor unions (manufacturing sector workers) have so few members? Would it have anything to do with the "unemployment rate?" Might it be that so many "union jobs" have been taken out of the country? Just 30 years ago the UAW had more than 1.5 million members. Today they have less than a quarter of that number. The union workers didn't just leave the union, the "JOBS" left the union workers!"
Of all places for the union rats to hold a rally, they held it in DETROIT?!lol Is Detroit suppose to represent a symbol of strength allen among the union hordes? Maybe Detroit and unions have something in common, both are decayed, people are leaving both, and both have long outlived it's importance to America. As for the unemployment rate and manufacturing, let's get real shall we. Manufacturing jobs were declining when the economy was actually doing fine. Progressives talk about manufacturing jobs going to China, yet they never want to answer two questions to why that truly is. The first question.
1. What president lobbied for China to be allowed in the World Trade Organization?
2. What president gave China "MOST FAVORED TRADE STATUS"?
I'll give you a hint. It was the president who served from 1992-2000. So in other words, that up the issue with him, because he made it happen. Furthermore, union greed has made it's labor uncompetitive. Unions aren't looking out for the average joe, they are looking out for themselves. You say the jobs left the union. I guess you just admitted to who are not the job creators in this country. Thanks for admitting allen that the unions don't create jobs. They only add expense and burden to the job creators.
Oh yeah allen, what do you have to say for Jimmy Hoffa crude and vitriol language towards the Tea Party? What if Sarah Palin would have said at the Tea Party rally in Iowa Saturday or New Hampshire yesterday, that "we need to get those sons of bitches out of the white house and congress"? So in the name of "civility" allen, I'm sure you condemn what Jimmy Hoffa said, right? ;-)
ACM - great blog.
And you beat me to it on the reply to allen in mentioning that unions priced themselves out of competition and relevance because of their own greed. Now they're desperate to hold on to what's left.
Unfortunately, I think it's only going to get worse from now till the election.
Take care.
I find it ironic that people who talk about a "positive" change, usually it comes out with violent rhetoric and name calling.
CB;"Of all places for the union rats".
Union "rats?" A few months ago it was "union piggies" in Wisconsin. Rats...Pigs?? Make up your mind!
CB;"Thanks for admitting allen that the unions don't create jobs. They only add expense and burden to the job creators".
Really? Those ole "job creators" are really a work creating jobs aren't they? They've had their tax cuts for 10 years, while simultaneously, unemployment and job loss has risen. What makes even less sense is that the largest Fortune 500 corporations have record amounts of cash on their balance sheets, at least $2 trillion!
Many of these corporations have already shed the so-called "expense and burden" of paying American workers a living wage, by closing factories and moving their manufacturing to other countries. That's the main reason why their balance sheets are so fat!
Thank you for admitting something I've known all along. Conservatives always contradict themselves "speaking with a fork tongue."
Manufacturing is nearly at an all time low in this country. Unemployment is unacceptably high. Those are the facts and reality. So, how is it that you can complain about the lack of job creation and job loss, while at the same time accuse the American union worker of being an "expense and a burden?"
The economy in this country is driven buy the "consumer." When workers buy what they make, the overall economy benefits. When wages are low, people spend less. When wages are at a level comparable to the cost of living (enough to live comfortably) the consumer will spend in order to live in that comfort.
Large corporations are concerned (and rightfully so) about profits. However, the "expense and burden" doesn't begin with the "lack of profits." The expense and burden begins when corporations seek to "increase profits." Corporate "GREED" is large in part to blame.
Corporations increase profits in two ways - one, increase productivity which increases market share, or two- cut cost, which means fewer employee's or less paid wages. What has happened is that corporations are applying "both" methods. They're increasing profits and productivity by moving the factories to other countries, thus reaping the rewards of both strategies.
The fact is "unions", as we know them, actually play a small role. Can any of you name one, just one corporation that has went out of business due to union demands? Yet I can name you several corporations that have imploded due to "greed." Just for kicks, say Enron...
Anon;"And you beat me to it on the reply to allen in mentioning that unions priced themselves out of competition and relevance because of their own greed".
Misinformation Anon...
Presently Labor Unions have negotiated pay-cuts, medical benefits concessions, but-outs, give backs, you name it. In many cases unions have helped to save a company. The "greed" you speak of is whats called "compensation for work performed."
Let's say you worked for a large, or even a small company that saw ever increasing quarterly profits. Would you think or believe that somehow you had something to do with the constant increase?
Let's also say that the bosses gave themselves huge raises and paid vacations, yet only offered you overtime and overtime pay for your efforts. Would you demand higher wages? Would you dare to price yourself out of competition and relevance because of your own greed? Or would you just be happy with whatever they give you?
Furthermore, if you're not a large business owner or a corporate C.E.O., what interest do you have in being "burdened by the expense" of a worker? Look at it this way- I watch and enjoy pro football. But when the owners and players had their riff, I took no side. What would it have looked like for poor ole me to stand in protest with the MILLIONAIRE players, or the owners? I like football. I could care less who owns the team, how much, or how little the players make.
However, I am a public sector employee. When another public sector employee's wages are attacked, mine are attacked also. So, if you're not a boss or a highly compensated C.E.O., you're bucking your own interests. Yet, if I were ever to become a corporate mogul or run a large business, I'd want a gang of employees just like you!
Are not unions another element of socialism? Our being forced to pay a companies employers there ridiculous perks out of our taxes and is not fascism when government gets involved with the companies themselves guaranteeing them the perks and bailing them out? All of these ism's can't be good. Corporatism, Totalitarianism, Imperialism and so on.
p allen "Presently Labor Unions have negotiated pay-cuts, medical benefits concessions, but-outs, give backs, you name it. In many cases unions have helped to save a company. The "greed" you speak of is whats called "compensation for work performed." "
Get real. The Postal System in s dire straights financially thanks to the union. Their labor costs are way out of whack compared to Fedex, UPS, and DHL. The postal service's labor costs are 80% which is insane. To add insult to the postal service's injury, the postal workers in their contract can't be laid off. So as revenue decreased, those employee couldn't be laid off in an attempt to compensate labor budget vs operating revenue. The blame of course is going to be placed on "people using the internet to pay their bills" bs.
Indeed, the USPS is a joke. Any time we rely on any huge Government entity it ends up being a joke. Big government does not work folks. Plain and simple and the Unions just love Big G!
We do not need life long benefits and hyper inflated perks. We need to live within our means and have balance and fairness within the system, that means going after excess greed to, because man domination over man is the downfall of any society. You never give any group too much power because likely someone is going to take advantage. I am sure not all Unions are bad but based on what we have been seeing, there are very few i am sure.
And again, union thugs are being the thugs that they are when they don't get their way . . .
ILWU Trashes Port
I'm sure it's just a coincidence that right after Hoffa said this, the longshoreman's union literally took a Washington port and 6 security guards hostage. It's all just another vast right wing conspiracy, you know.
Tyrone, the U.S. Postal Service is the only government run entity that does not use tax dollars to operate.
Yet, the main reason the post office is in "dire straights" is because it's failed to compete. With the advent of new carriers, services and the internet, USPS allowed it's new competitors to "out compete" them. I'm sure that it's particular restrictive government regulations that ties the hands of the managers preventing the diversification of services and expanding innovations.
Still, postal workers have always been had better wages and benefits than workers in the private sector. Even with these better wages, for quite a long time the postal service was solvent, and at times profitable.
It's easy to blame the workers. After all they're just the people who purchase the goods and services that keep the economy going. The less they make, the less they spend, the less that goes into the economy overall.
You conservatives decry "greedy overpaid union workers" should have the wages slashed, or their jobs shipped overseas. And at the same time these same workers aren't spending, or have no money to spend. Your conservative solution is tax cuts for the "job creators" to kick-start the economy. But how can you kick-start and economy when the consumer/worker doesn't have the monetary means????
So with that tax cut, does the so-called "job creator" invest those tax savings into a business that has a decreasing customer base? Is he going to use it to increase wages or hire more people, with slow to slowing sales? Or will he take it and buy that lake front boating dock fishing cabin he's always wanted? Greedy overpaid workers and a down economy, or the cabin....hmmmm? Which would you choose?
Forgot about this one...
CB;"So in the name of "civility" allen, I'm sure you condemn what Jimmy Hoffa said, right?".
Typically I condemn any type of vitriolic language. Civility, to me is always the best course of action.
However, in this case I'll condemn Hoffa in the same manner you condemn Allen West and his comments about Wassermann-Schultz. I also condemn in the same manner you condemned Ted Nugents comments about Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. I'll also condemn in the same manner you condemned Tammy Bruce's comments about Michele Obama. And the "monkey references" made by Tea Party members about President Obama. Should I go on????
brewer's rule "I'm sure it's just a coincidence that right after Hoffa said this, the longshoreman's union literally took a Washington port and 6 security guards hostage. It's all just another vast right wing conspiracy, you know."
I was thinking that also. The left tries to brand the tea party as the "mob", yet who are the ones actually going out and acting like mobsters? The tea party folks have never ever tried to do what the longshoremen did. What they did was straight up thuggery. Of course the national media will ignore this story with a 30 foot pole. If it was the Tea Party that did something similar to this, they would of course be ALL OVER IT!!!
p allen "Yet, the main reason the post office is in "dire straights" is because it's failed to compete."
It failed to compete? Compete with whom exactly allen? Is there a private entity out there that is authorized to deliver mail that I don't know of?
p allen "With the advent of new carriers, services and the internet, USPS allowed it's new competitors to "out compete" them."
Don't make me laugh allen. Most sellers on Ebay and Amazon use the postal service to ship their merchandise to their customers. The last five items I ordered through the internet came via USPS. So do you have another excuse?
p allen "I'm sure that it's particular restrictive government regulations that ties the hands of the managers preventing the diversification of services and expanding innovations. "
It comes down the labor costs allen. No matter how much you try to take the attention off of the obvious, it's going to come right back to that. This is from usps labor costs Once again members of a union believing that the dream world they were living in represented reality. The alarm clock just went off, the postal service is broke!! The bottom line is clear as a bell allen. Either the members of the postal union are going to have to make some DEEP concessions and that includes the retirees or they are going to be SOL. A bailout isn't going to work, because the fiscal structure of the postal system is so bad.
in 2012 this crowd be so qwiet
after this clown in the white house be gone
alberto gorin
alberto gorin "in 2012 this crowd be so qwietafter this clown in the white house be gone"
How you been alberto? I hope all is well. Nice to hear from you again. I came across a very cool sign post at a tea party a few last year.
A recession is when someone else loses their job.
A depression is when you lose your job.
A recovery is when Obama loses his job.
2012 can't come soon enough!!
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