From no bloody head, to maybe a bloody head to definitely a bloody head, ABC News finally gets it right.
Here's a quick note about jumping to conclusions without having all the facts on the table first. Remember when ABC News first reported that George Zimmerman didn't have any gashes on the back of his head which seemed to not collaborate with his claim that Trayvon Martin was pounding his head in the ground? Later, ABC News released an enhanced version of the Sanford Police video showing that Zimmerman did have gashes on the back of his head. Now after all this, ABC News has released the photo of George Zimmerman's bloody head which was taken on the scene three minutes after George Zimmeman shot Trayvon Martin.
The head prosecutor admitted that he didn't know who started the psychical confrontation between Zimmerman and Martin. I don't really don't care what the legal expert for ABC News said, because the prosecution shot himself in the foot by admitting that information. How can the prosecution team prove that Zimmerman was the aggressor, when they have no evidence of who was the aggressor? Unless they have evidence in the wing and were just "lying under oath", Zimmerman's defense team can easily come out and say that the prosecution team is "assuming" Zimmeran was the aggressor. A friend told me a week ago that he thinks that the prosecution and the defense teams are negotiating behind closed doors, to downgrade the charges to manslaughter instead of second degree murder, because the prosecution doesn't have a solid enough case to win. I doubted what he said, because this case will got to trial come hell or high water. The outcome is still up in the air.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 12:56 PM
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Most people following this story know that Zimmerman and Trayvon were in some kind of physical altercation. Fighting, roughhousing, even break-dancing can cause you to bash your head on something. Thus, the bloody head merely indicates something that's already known, that being, a fight took place.
I still stick by my assertion that from the start, Zimmerman should not have followed nor came into contact with Trayvon. Once contact was made, it was Trayvon that had "no duty to retreat" being that he was the one being followed. I understand that the law enforcement officials seen fit to use a law that allows a vague interpretation which resulted in Zimmermans initial release. However, that doesn't make him right, nor the killing justified.
Any law that allows 'citizen A' to follow 'citizen B', then make contact with 'citizen B', resulting in an altercation where 'citizen B' is killed, is an UNJUST LAW!
If the Baltimore tourist had shot HIS assailant, p. anthony would be on the horn to Al Sharpton looking to start a boycott of Downtown Baltimore Inner Harbor pubs and eateries until they stopped serving (abusing) drunk black teens and making a call for stricter handgun control...
In other words, "self-defense is no excuse". Just give it up and take the beating. The thugs have more rights than 2nd Amendment can ever grant you.
I'm jes sayin'.
I would not assume the Zimmerman’s defense has this in the bag just yet, Tyrone. And I like Zimmerman new lawyer better than those other two assholes who represented him before. But remember don't jump to conclusions like Hannity and the people on the right are sayings. lol Zimmerman's attorney made the surprising move of starting a little mini-trial Friday morning. You left out the point that the investigator on the stand also said there is evidence to contradicts Zimmerman claim. You missed that part, Tyrone? Or you just like to catch the stuff that is convenient for you side - Team Zimmerman? Also, did you catch were the prosecutors said they have much more at the end of the whole thing? They quickly mention a text Zimmerman sent out after the shooting that may hurt him. There is also a tape of Martin at the 7-11 that night buying what he had. Who knows, but based on this mini-trial that was meant to be a bond hearing, it ain't over.
So please don't think this new picture of Zim's head leaking in the back totally exonerates him and proves his side of the story. lol There is much more to come. Everyone knows there was a fight at this point. Me personally, I think it will be found that Zimmerman has over-hyped his injures from that night a little. I could be wrong. But if I am mounted on top of you bouncing your head off the concrete like a basketball, like Zimmerman claims Martin did to him, you're not getting anything on your waist; you're already done.
However, unlike people on both sides of this tragedy, I will be fair enough to say that if the prosecutors cannot prove it was NOT self-defense, and Zimmerman's lawyer can prove he WAS, without a show of a doubt, simply defending himself, it could all get thrown out. Maybe. We should see May 29.
Also, while some argue whether or not it was a good idea to let Zimmerman take the stand or not, he said things on the stand that do not help him now - just like the investigator you mentioned, Tyrone. One was he said: "I did not know how old he was; I thought he was just a little bit younger than me." Huh??? Say what?? Go back to the 911 tape. He said the kid clearly looked like he was in his LATE TEENS! Zimmerman is 28, so I would think a little bit younger than me would be well over 21 for sure. So O' Mara should be a little careful with letting Zim speak from here on out. We don't want him to change his story again. His brother already has done that. He changed the story in regards to how the fight started.
Some people need to take their own advice and wait to ALL the facts that are available come out on the table. Yes, they have more witnesses now – including a 13 year old that police screwed up an interview with. Yeah, Tyrone, Sean Hannity didn’t mention that one because it might not be convenient for Zimmerman. And these new witnesses don’t all corroborate Zimmerman’s story like the one, either. Even Hannity had to admit that Friday. I say all facts “available” because we will never hear Martin's side of the story because he's not here to tell it, unfortunately.
Hey Joe Conservative,
Since you bring it up, I was just wondering, what do you think that 31 year old white guy from VA was looking for that night anyway. I mean why was he even around associating with blacks he did not even know? He was clearly drunk, and that was seen in him not being able to fight back or get away during the time he was under attack by the animals. He also really seemed to enjoy that black, hood rat grinding her stink ass on his crouch up until he realized he was being set up by the black street pucks she may or may not have been working with to get him.
Do you think he was looking for a piece of ass from a black prostitute whore, like the one that was grinding her ass on him? You saw the stink butt whore with her hoe shorts on. Was he going to ask her and her girl-friend to come back to his hotel that morning?? You know, like a lot of white guys that go downtown on Friday and Saturday nights in downtown Baltimore and ride through looking for easy, cheap black prostitutes in that area. I’ve seen it a plenty of times my friend. And no they are not all tourist like this guy was. lol I am talking Black whores hopping in and out of nice cars with white dudes they don’t know in downtown Baltimore every weekend. Oh yes, I am implying the 31 year old white victim was drunk, horny, and may have been looking a sex after a long night out at 2:00am after Power Plant Live. Anyone who knows that area knows that is what you will find there. Ask Tyrone; he already knows it because he too knows Baltimore downtown like he said in previous post.
Just saying...
Now however, that does not justify what these black miscreants did. And these animals should all get a minimum of 15 years. (Will not happen, I know.) And the coward Aaron Parker (the guy who threw the punch) should stay in jail for 20 years and be left to defend his own butt and clothes from the guys in jail. Just they them what he was involved in.
Anyway, check out Baltimore's illustrious, scum-bag criminal defense attorney, Warren H. Brown, defend his coward client who he claims just threw a simple little punch and did not know and had nothing to do with the stripping and beating that ensued after the punch. Parker has $500,000 bail and Attorney scum-bag Brown thinks it is too high and Zimmerman's bail sends the wrong message to the potential jury to come.
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I was watching CNN and a guest prosecutor accused O'Mara for withholding evidence to share with the prosecutors, which she said would have him disbarred.
I don't know the rules of practicing law, but I don't think O'Mara would jeopardize his career by withholding evidence from the prosecution team, just like what former district attorney Mike Nifong did in the Duke Lacrosse Rape case, just for political purposes when he knew the accused were innocent all along, which eventually got him disbarred.
If O'Mara withheld the evidence, it was from the media. I think he did it just to make them look very foolish who have been vilifying Zimmerman for too long.
anon "Anyway, check out Baltimore's illustrious, scum-bag criminal defense attorney, Warren H. Brown, defend his coward client who he claims just threw a simple little punch and did not know and had nothing to do with the stripping and beating that ensued after the punch. Parker has $500,000 bail and Attorney scum-bag Brown thinks it is too high and Zimmerman's bail sends the wrong message to the potential jury to come."
Warren said that his 20 year old client is a "good kid". A good kid that punch people for no good reason. Maybe Warren's defense will be that his client had a nervous condition that made his arm move uncontrollably in a punching fashion.
Marcel "Oh yes, I am implying the 31 year old white victim was drunk, horny, and may have been looking a sex after a long night out at 2:00am after Power Plant Live. Anyone who knows that area knows that is what you will find there. Ask Tyrone; he already knows it because he too knows Baltimore downtown like he said in previous post. "
I only know the area because my personal office was at 218 E Lexington Street, that was the only reason I've ever went down there. lol. That area is mostly where drunks hand out at after dark when all the professional people leave after 6pm. The area known for prostitution starts a few blocks north heading towards Mount Vernon but some have been know to hang out in that area after dark.
Marcel "I would not assume the Zimmerman’s defense has this in the bag just yet, Tyrone. And I like Zimmerman new lawyer better than those other two assholes who represented him before. But remember don't jump to conclusions like Hannity and the people on the right are sayings. lol Zimmerman's attorney made the surprising move of starting a little mini-trial Friday morning. You left out the point that the investigator on the stand also said there is evidence to contradicts Zimmerman claim. You missed that part, Tyrone?"
I'm not saying this is in the bag for Zimmerman but no means Marcel. I do know that the so called media legal experts are saying that the prosecution will have a hard time trying Zimmerman on a 2nd degree charge, and it would have been better to have charged him and tried him on manslaughter. We'll just have to see if the prosecution does have evidence that contradicts Zimmerman's claim.
Marcel "So please don't think this new picture of Zim's head leaking in the back totally exonerates him and proves his side of the story. lol "
I'm not making that claim Marcel, never did. My point was more so aimed that the media at least ABC News has done their job in reporting facts relevant to the case. I have no dog in the hunt, so I am not pulling for anyone Zimmerman nor Martin. I just want the facts to lead to the just verdict.
I think that any white guy surrounded by a dozen black guys on a Baltimore street will say and do just about anything, including being played a fool, to get OUT of that situation... until he decides that he has to run... or suffer the consequences. And when he began to run... he got clocked. He was going to get clocked REGARDLESS of whether he was made a fool of. And after being made a fool, he was stripped naked and made a bigger fool. And making the tourist look foolish, was what it was ALL about, that night.
...but then if you NEED to believe that the white guy was trolling for ho's, that's your foolish mind at work.
Joe;"If the Baltimore tourist had shot HIS assailant, p. anthony would be on the horn to Al Sharpton looking to start a boycott of Downtown Baltimore Inner Harbor pubs and eateries until they stopped serving (abusing) drunk black teens and making a call for stricter handgun control".
Why would I call Al Sharpton? Better still, if the tourist had shot his assailant, why would "I" call anybody? If he had shot him I would think that someone would call an ambulance.
Alpha Conservative Male:"I only know the area because my personal office was at 218 E Lexington Street, that was the only reason I've ever went down there. lol. That area is mostly where drunks hand out at after dark when all the professional people leave after 6pm. The area known for prostitution starts a few blocks north heading towards Mount Vernon but some have been know to hang out in that area after dark."
lol No I was not trying to imply that you knew that area because you have been down there looking for anything, Ty. lol
I was just saying you, like I, have lived in Baltimore; so you know what is down there and where not to go. About 8 years ago, when I was in college, my friends and I had walked through downtown to park when going to nearby clubs around the area. Walking and riding through is where I ,personally, have seen women that I highly suspected were prostitutes. Black girls standing around dress like whores with their short, shorts on hopping in and out of nice cars with white dudes(and black.) Hell we even seen it doing the day before walking to the Hospital on Greene Street in the morning three years ago. My family and I saw a young black girl getting out the car of a very, very old white man. And really those women are all over downtown on Saturday and Friday nights.
So again, I am not justifying that horrible beating by those miscreants; they should all to 15 years in prison with no parole (yeah right, I know.) But I am also saying I personally would have used better judgement than to be drunk out of my mind and walking around one of the worst and dangerous cities in America at night by myself. Just me. He would have been better off going back to his room and getting a call-girl off Craiqlist or Backpage. But the guy was drunk and did not know so.
Latest update: They caught the girl that grinding on him and later smacked him twice with her pocket book and laughed while he was laid out on the ground. I hope they get the other two cowards and more of them.
http://wbal.com/article/89122/2/template-story/Police-Confirm-Second-Arrest-In-Viral-Video-Beating-
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-courthouse-assault-arrests-20120423,0,1538058.story
FJ - "but then if you NEED to believe that the white guy was trolling for ho's, that's your foolish mind at work."
Did read everything I wrote?? Probably not, so I'll said it again: the black miscreants that did this should be put behind bars for a minimum of 15 to 20 years with no parole!! Hell they could do more time than that and I would not feel sorry for them, but you know even what I suggest will never happen with Baltimore's corrupt jury system.
But yeah, I did imply he may have been trolling for hoes as you said. lol You did not like me implying that very much?? Too bad because if you watch the whole video and its entirety, you will see he was very much enjoying that black whore, as the BaltimoreSun put it, "gyrating" around him. He even put his hand down and felt on her ass when she rubbed up against him. He got vertical lap dance of sorts. Or as the young kids say, she was freaking him. So maybe YOUR foolish mind either did not see the beginning of the tape when he was clearly standing there and only stopped her from rubbing her butt up against him when the coward took something out of his pocket. He only then pushed the whore away when he realized Parson took something out of his wallet; He then went after the guy to get the item back and got punch to the ground by Parson the coward.
Either way, I will say it again: he did not deserve it. Perhaps that's the part you missed because you did like me pointing out what he may have been looking for. Sorry to tell you but white guys are downtown in there nice vehicles ever weekend trolling for hoes and strippers. You don't have to believe in YOUR foolish mind, though, FJ.
FJ: I think that any white guy surrounded by a dozen black guys on a Baltimore street will say and do just about anything, including being played a fool, to get OUT of that situation... until he decides that he has to run.
No, again you obviously did not watch the whole video and its entirety. This was not an instance where a group of black men randomly approached him and surrounded him. I think he was normal white guy that just wanted think some black people he did not know from adams were cool, and he went to stand around thinking they were fine. I will give him somewhat of a pass on that because he was drunk. No problem.
But once again, yep, I did imply some people from Power Point Live - the club he told police he walked from - may have told him where to go to get the ass that night. Yeah, I could be wrong. But the one black girl, that he got the vertical lap dance from, looked like a whore - PERIOD.
In the end, here is what you do FJ: Encourage whites - white tourist in particular - to boycott downtown Baltimore. Hit them where it really hurts and you may see sorry ass Mayor Stephanie, who said her goal is to bring 10k families back in the city, clean up her downtown in city. I support that. Especially when you add this to all the other beatings - and in some cases - killing of whites in downtown Baltimore by black miscreants that the media and the BaltimoreSun did not and will not cover.
If he was enjoying himself so much, why start to run?
ps - I could care less about how much "inter-racial" crime occurs in Baltimore City. The overall "crime RATE" (regardless of color) is far TOO high. And a boycott of businesses would have an adverse affect on THAT crime rate by making the poverty and financial hardship locally WORSE. You don't punish the innocent to protect the guilty.
Did you ever read the Tom Clancy novel, "Without Remorse"? The way to make the city safe, is to make crime COST. Mollycoddling miscreants and making excuses for them ("Oh, they were drinking...") helps no one make things better.
That is not Zimmerman's head.
Zimmerman is NOT BALDING!
This picture has been Photoshopped.
There's the impression of blood, but no wounds. And where's the bloody broken nose?
Zimmerman has been lying from the beginning. His father has been lying for him.
THAT IS A FAKE PHOTO!
If it were authentic, it would have been released months ago!
They refuse to say who took the photo. They refuse to say who submitted the photo. It's a lie.
So since one cannot prove who started the fight, it is ok for Zimmerman to shoot someone who is crying and begging for help?
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