Elections have consequences:Companies are planning massive layoffs due to the Obamacare law.
Liberals think like children. They never stop to think that there are consequences to their actions. Their fantasy land way of thinking where everything is suppose to be nice, everyone gets along, and everyone is treated fairly isn't how the real world works, sorry. When Obamacare was passed into law in 2010, business leaders and people with common sense knew that the law was going to negatively impact their financial bottom line. The Obama administration went as far as to issue wavers to companies so that they wouldn't be impacted by the law, temporarily. This was done solely to keep potential layoffs by companies quiet until after the election. The waivers expire at the end of the year. The old saying goes that "elections have consequences". Companies are already planning massive layoffs as a result of Obamacare going into full implementation with nothing stopping it. Educated voters who knew the ramifications of Obamacare obviously voted for Romney out of employment self preservation. Then there are the intellectual dumb asses so to speak. They voted for Obama with no idea the damage they would be inflicting on the U.S economy and themselves if Obama won re election. Now liberals are getting worked up in anger, because more and more and more companies are announcing layoffs due to Obamacare. It's gotten to the point now that some Obama "forward" voters are talking about boycotts of businesses like Papa Johns, Apple Bees and Darden Restaurants (Red Lobster, Olive Garden, Long Horn Steakhouse) for firing workers. An Applebee's franchisee announced a hiring freeze due to Obamacare, and liberals attacked him on Twitter. They are probably also mad that Applebee's don't accept EBT card also, oh well. The losers who want to plan to boycott Papa Johns posted a picture of the founder and CEO of Papa Johns "John Schnatter's house. Of course, they are demonizing him as the bad guy instead of the new health care law that is the reason he has to do what he has to do in the first place along with many other business owners
This looks like a tactic taken right out of Occupy Wallstreet, demonize CEO's and successful people for being successful and achieving the American Dream. Come next year, progressives are going to be boycotting a lot of businesses then, because a lot of businesses are going to be issuing massive layoffs or converting their full time workers to part time status due to Obamacare. Since they can't blame Bush or Republicans, I suppose they will blame businesses. The real world of business doesn't stop medley because Obama was re elected. It just adjusts and not in the way the left wants it to. No good deed goes unpunished I guess.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 11:36 PM
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Rich people are our superiors and they deserve profits especially if they can hurt poor people while literally living in castles.
Jesus, sometimes I read your blog and think you are a parody.
Akira Toriyama "Akira Toriyama said...
ich people are our superiors and they deserve profits especially if they can hurt poor people while literally living in castles.
Jesus, sometimes I read your blog and think you are a parody."
They say you should never use the lord's name in vain, just throwing that out there. Ah anyways, you failed to mention that rich people are the ones who hire other people thus paying them money so that they can buy houses, automobiles, clothes, put food on their tables, go vacations, send their kids to good private schools if need be and ultimately save for retirement. If it weren't for rich people or business owners who inspiring to be rich, who would hire people in general? Was it too obvious for you to have included that or did that fact escape you entirely Akira? Rich people are nobodies superiors, but they are also not the demons of society either. Are you done being mellow dramatic?
SO WHAT, I will VERY HAPPILY pay 14 cents more for my pizza if it means treating my compatriots like human beings.
Great article, Tyrone! I think we might be twins separated at birth because you have said everything I've been thinking for the last 4 years. I know liberals mean well, but their simplistic, shallow analyses of issues is EVERYONE's undoing. As for those who voted simply with the "what's in it for me" mentality, I believe Karma will take care of them eventually.
anon "SO WHAT, I will VERY HAPPILY pay 14 cents more for my pizza if it means treating my compatriots like human beings."
You bought into the narrative they wanted you to perfectly. The only people who know the cost structure of Papa John's business model is the Papa John organization. Anyone can spit out an arbitrary number and like 14 cents and say that's what it costs, and you just proven people will take it as the gospel no questions asked. What the person who said it would cost 14 cents more per pizza didn't include is what the annual additional cost would be to the company. I do know for a fact that the pizza industry works off of very low gross profit margins. Adding 14 cents doesn't seem like much, but then add in the fluctuation of commodity costs such as wheat, milk, beef, vegetables etc, and it adds up. I don't believe for one minute that it will only cost Papa Johns just 14 cent more to comply with Obama's higher premiums. It's way higher then that. All these the companies that are starting to announce mass layoffs know that Obama care is NOT going to a minimum cost to their bottom line going forward.
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Great article, Tyrone! I think we might be twins separated at birth because you have said everything I've been thinking for the last 4 years. I know liberals mean well, but their simplistic, shallow analyses of issues is EVERYONE's undoing. As for those who voted simply with the "what's in it for me" mentality, I believe Karma will take care of them eventually."
I with you on the Karma thing most definitely. I don't feel bad for those who voted for Obama but will lost their jobs because of Obamacare or his other abusive regulatory policies on certain business sectors. No good deed goes unpunished. I do feel bad for those who knew what Obamacare represented and voted against Obama but will unfortunately have to suffer because of it. Sometimes experience is life's best teacher. Young people voted for Obama again, yet they will graduate with a ton of college loan debt and no prospects for get a job. When the reality hits them like a ton of sobering breaks, then they might get a clue. I know for a fact that many of these simplistic thinking progressives actually believe that Obamacare is free and that they believe they will receive state of the art healthcare. You can only tell an idiot how the real world works so many times trying to convince them. You are right, you just have to sometimes step back and let the real world teach them instead.
I don't believe for one minute that it will only cost Papa Johns just 14 cent more to comply with Obama's higher premiums
John Schnatter is the one who told shareholders that that he'd probably have to increase the price of the pizza's "ten to fourteen cents". He is the CEO of Papa Johns.
Other are sceptics too. Some are saying a price increase of two cents would more than cover it. (Papa Johns sells a lot of pizza).
What I don't see is people talking about how this with give an advantage to ma and pop stores. They won't need to comply with this law because they have too few employees. This increases their competitiveness in relation to the giant corporations.
Mitt Romney held a political fund-raiser back in May at John Schnatter (Papa John)'s house.
But he wants to make a political point. I suspect that this has little to do with the actual economics of his business and a lot to do with feeling upset that his favoured candidate lost and a need to throw his toy out of the pram.
What I don't see is people talking about how this with give an advantage to ma and pop stores. They won't need to comply with this law because they have too few employees. This increases their competitiveness in relation to the giant corporations.
Bingo.
KK Dowling "John Schnatter is the one who told shareholders that that he'd probably have to increase the price of the pizza's "ten to fourteen cents". He is the CEO of Papa Johns."
The CEO and CFO of a public traded company are always going to try and soften the impact to shareholders of any thing that will hurt earnings. That's just what they do. They know that if shareholders get nervous to the profitability of their company, they will sell off their share thus decreasing the market capitalization of that company. I've owned stock in companies where the CEO said sales conditions were fine, but it didn't show in their annual report embedded somewhere in the middle of the report lol.
KK Dowling "What I don't see is people talking about how this with give an advantage to ma and pop stores. They won't need to comply with this law because they have too few employees. This increases their competitiveness in relation to the giant corporations."
If I am right, I believe that the mom and pop stores will still have to provide healthcare if the employees are working at least 30 hours a week which classifies as a full time employee under the healthcare law. If they make the employee part time at 29 hours a week and under, they still have to pay the tax penalty.
KK Dowling "Other are sceptics too. Some are saying a price increase of two cents would more than cover it. (Papa Johns sells a lot of pizza)."
Sales are one thing, profit margins are something else. Walmart has sales of over $100 billion dollars a year, but they have a net profit of only a few billion dollars a year. Next year will be the tale of how this will all work out.
I own a small pizza joint in Texas... It's a franchise, only about 40 of us though. It's frustrating competing with Papa John's because their ingredients aren't better, yet people are suckers for their advertising... They get their dough frozen off the back of a truck for fuck's sake (we and most other smaller pizza joints make our own, btw). Next time you order pizza, do yourself a favor and support the little guys who can't afford multi-million dollar advertising campaigns. I promise, the ingredients are better, the finished product will taste better, and you can feel better knowing your money is helping families make ends meet rather than building another bat-cave for The Papa.
A. Campbell said"Mitt Romney held a political fund-raiser back in May at John Schnatter (Papa John)'s house."
You mean the other way around. John held a fundraiser for Romney.
A Cambell "But he wants to make a political point. I suspect that this has little to do with the actual economics of his business and a lot to do with feeling upset that his favoured candidate lost and a need to throw his toy out of the pram."
I do not buy that. Many companies large and small are planning layoffs, and I doubt that all of these companies are doing it merely because Obama won. There is legitimate reasons why these lay offs are happening. If employers were going to fire employees just because they don't like Obama, they would have done so four years ago when he was first elected but they didn't. Again, the blame is being placed on the employers and not on the actual law. So is every company or small business that lays off people automatically going to be label as a disgruntled Romney supporter? People are hired to provide profitability to the company. A company or small business will not limit it's profitability just to make a political point, it's stupid for them to do so.
A Campbell "What I don't see is people talking about how this with give an advantage to ma and pop stores. They won't need to comply with this law because they have too few employees. This increases their competitiveness in relation to the giant corporations.Bingo."
If the true costs to the bottom line is minimal to Papa Johns, Pizza Bolis, Domino, Little Cesar etc, I do not see how the law helps the mom and pop stores compete anyways. The franchise pizza shops will simply pass that expense on to their customers. Their marketing budget will still be the same. Besides there are many more mom and pop pizza shops in a city or town then there are franchise shops. When I buy pizza, I always buy my pizzas and subs from local shops.
RockSteadyVibe said...
I own a small pizza joint in Texas... It's a franchise, only about 40 of us though. It's frustrating competing with Papa John's because their ingredients aren't better, yet people are suckers for their advertising... They get their dough frozen off the back of a truck for fuck's sake (we and most other smaller pizza joints make our own, btw). Next time you order pizza, do yourself a favor and support the little guys who can't afford multi-million dollar advertising campaigns. I promise, the ingredients are better, the finished product will taste better, and you can feel better knowing your money is helping families make ends meet rather "
than building another bat-cave for The Papa."
RockSteadyVibe, I appreciate you local pizza guys. You all do make the best pizzas hands down. The saying goes that there is a sucker born every second, and slick and deceptive marketing can create those suckers. If people buy their pizzas from franchised shops and think it's as good or better then the local shops, they are fooling themselves. Papa has a team of accountants and lawyers finding every possible way to minimize the impact of this new healthcare law.
Massachusetts has about 6.6 million people. It has one of the best healthcare systems in the US. I think they are about 98% being insured. It is so successful that Obamacare is modeled after it. Obamacare is really Romneycare. I haven't checked but I don't think Papa and the Olive have left Boston. I think its bogus to think that on a national level its cost ineffective. It seems to me like its more of a political tantrum because the repubs lost this round.
Why do you label your blog, Wake up Black America. Also by the way you should use spell check on your profile as you seem to have a problem with spelling. Now on to what I believe should happen. I believe that Americans should boycott any business that holds jobs hostage because of the National healthcare plan as well as the simple fact that President Obama was voted for a second term. You should know that companies are now in a broad way practicing Social Darwinism by the ideology that they will keep those they believe to be poor in a poorer state of existence. Boycotts are and will be effective cause the bottom lines of companies will show them that we are not going to stand by and allow them to hold jobs or our lives hostage. If you think that we don't have clout then by all means keep on voicing your views. But I for one am supporting the boycott cause you say that the Democrat doesnt value me or feel they have to work for my vote then mind you if a company feels they can punish people by who is in the Presidents office then they do not deserve my money. My money is green, silver, and copper. I will keep it in my pocket and purchase only those things that I need. I will not support businesses that hold hostage the things that I and every citizens deserve to have. So Capitalists practicing Social Darwinism do not and will not make money off of me. As for my and those that used to support those establishments do not and have never felt that we are upset because they do not take EBT cards. You are a very misguided person and a fraud. So know this you are and will be found out one of these days. Get a grip and get a live.
CB;"you failed to mention that rich people are the ones who hire other people thus paying them money so that they can buy houses, automobiles, clothes, put food on their tables, go vacations, send their kids to good private schools if need be and ultimately save for retirement".
As if Papa Johns pizza makers, delivery drivers and counter help can; "buy houses, automobiles, clothes, put food on their tables, go vacations, send their kids to good private schools and and ultimately save for retirement?" He can offer a delivery driver all those goodies, yet he refuses to offer HEALTH CARE???
Tripping again Tyrone? Schnatter could care less if his employee's send their kids to private school, own a home, drive a car, take a vacation or have a retirement fund...OR HAVE HEALTH CARE! He has made it obvious and clear that he's not in business to help people.
For some reason I see conservatives supporting Papa John's Pizza (ala "Chic-Fil-A") because he refuses to afford his employee's health care. Here comes Papa John's Pizza Day! Conservatives lined up across the country pouring millions more into Schnatters empire. Perhaps Papa John's, Chick-fil-A and sevarel other fast food outlets can get together and have a "Fast Food Year"! Or Decade! Or forever! Conservatives can support the industry entirely. I can hear the chants now...
NO HEALTH CARE, EAT FAST FOOD!
Hell, no way I would want the guy serving my deep freid twinkies to have better health care than me!
anon "I will keep it in my pocket and purchase only those things that I need. I will not support businesses that hold hostage the things that I and every citizens deserve to have."
What are they holding hostage? Healthcare is not a constitutional right. You need to read it. Boycotts do not work like they use to. How did the boycott against Chick-Fil-A and Rush Limbaugh work out? It didn't. There are millions of companies in America, and there simply aren't enough people to boycott every single business.
p allen "So Capitalists practicing Social Darwinism do not and will not make money off of me. As for my and those that used to support those establishments do not and have never felt that we are upset because they do not take EBT cards. You are a very misguided person and a fraud."
The only way I can be "misguided and a fraud" is if I am proven to be one, which you haven't proven nor can you ever, because I am simply not one, so sorry.
anon "So know this you are and will be found out one of these days. Get a grip and get a live."
You tried to make a case about me misspelling a word? The term is "get a LIFE", not a "LIVE" ;-)
anon "Why do you label your blog, Wake up Black America."
Because when I started this blog back in 2004, it was mostly a block about disproving the myth about the Republican Party and conservatism towards blacks.
anon"Also by the way you should use spell check on your profile as you seem to have a problem with spelling."
Do you know that you are the first person ever to ever notice that? I don't really have a problem with spelling per say, people do make typos, that is why there is a such thing as a "spell checker". I pray that isn't your only main criticism you have of my blog.
anon "Now on to what I believe should happen. I believe that Americans should boycott any business that holds jobs hostage because of the National healthcare plan as well as the simple fact that President Obama was voted for a second term."
This is where your thinking is short sighted. If you boycott companies who lay off workers due to Obamacare, then you are only going to contribute to MORE people getting laid off due to those businesses having less work due to silly boycotts. Businesses have to control expenses, Obamacare is an expense. In the end, elections have consequences, point blank.
anon "You should know that companies are now in a broad way practicing Social Darwinism by the ideology that they will keep those they believe to be poor in a poorer state of existence."
Companies are in the business of making a profit. It's no complicated then that. The poor are always going to be poor, because they make the decisions to remain poor. Demonizing those who are successful isn't going to elevate you. Do you want to bring them down, because misery loves company? Many people chose not to take chances, others do. When it comes to success, don't hate, try to duplicate.
anon "Boycotts are and will be effective cause the bottom lines of companies will show them that we are not going to stand by and allow them to hold jobs or our lives hostage."
Are you apart of Occupy? I'm just curious. The fact is, Americans are not into the whole class warfare bullshit. People want jobs not protesters. There is a reason why unions only make up less then 10% of the work force. For ever person who wants to unionize, 10 people do not and just want to work and get paid.
anon "If you think that we don't have clout then by all means keep on voicing your views. But I for one am supporting the boycott cause you say that the Democrat doesnt value me or feel they have to work for my vote then mind you if a company feels they can punish people by who is in the Presidents office then they do not deserve my money. My money is green, silver, and copper."
Again, you are making a bias assumption that companies are laying off employees, because they don't like Obama personally. People like you can't explain why Obama gave waivers to companies months ago, so that they wouldn't lay off workers prior to the election. If you have a hardwired hatred against capitalism, then of course Obama looks like the good guy and the businesses look like the villains.
anon "Massachusetts has about 6.6 million people. It has one of the best healthcare systems in the US."
Really, is that why Massachusetts is experiencing huge cost overruns due to Romneycare then?
NY Times July 31, 2012 "Although Massachusetts, under Gov. Mitt Romney, in 2006 became the first state to require most residents to have health insurance — the model for President Obama’s national health care overhaul — the law did little to slow health care costs that were already among the highest in the nation. Such spending has increased by 6 percent or 7 percent a year recently, compared with annual state economic growth of less than 4 percent.Massachusetts Aims to Cut Growth of Its Health Costs
I think they are about 98% being insured. It is so successful that Obamacare is modeled after it. Obamacare is really Romneycare. I haven't checked but I don't think Papa and the Olive have left Boston. I think its bogus to think that on a national level its cost ineffective. It seems to me like its more of a political tantrum because the repubs lost this round.
I would think of all the insults that liberals spew to those who oppose Obamacare, sooner or later, when they discover that their place of employment has cut their health insurance or been laid off due to Obamacare (fair warning by their employer), who has the last laugh? The opposition would. But the liberals who lost their health insurance and their jobs, would try and blame their employers.
Speaking of the high cost of health insurance, a friend of mine who works at a nursing home, she was a maternity leave. Her work covered the majority of her health bill. When she got back to work, her first pay check was $4. Most of that money went to covering the rest of her medical expenses. What's her paycheck going to be like next, under Obamacare?
-Big Pop
Hey Tyronne you hear the hate mongering white Republicans want to seccede from the US.Will you join the succession movement and go be the white mans slave again.
Republicans keep saying obama care will cause layoffs loss of jobs and loss of all health care for working people. What do you think has been happening for 20 to 30 years now? Fewer people having health care from there jobs any way. Thats not obamas fault because its been going that way for 20 years. But since some parts of obama care has started more young people have health insurance. And republicans dont like that either. Republicans want obama care to fail. But at the same time many people are losing there health care. No wonder young people turned out for obama. They see that the republicans deal lies and speak with a fork tounge.
gerald T-
Gerald T "Republicans keep saying obama care will cause layoffs loss of jobs and loss of all health care for working people. What do you think has been happening for 20 to 30 years now?"
Um, the difference is that employers are explaining that the healthcare law is what is causing them to layoff workers or consider switching their employees to part time status. Normally companies layoff people, because they either need to run more efficient in order to stay competitive or they are losing money and are trying to reserve cash flow to meet critical operation needs.
Gerald T"Fewer people having health care from there jobs any way."
Have any evidence of that Gerald, or is that just your opinion?
Gerald T"Thats not obamas fault because its been going that way for 20 years. But since some parts of obama care has started more young people have health insurance. And republicans dont like that either. Republicans want obama care to fail."
If Obamacare is a good law, it doesn't matter if Republicans want it to fail Gerald. Wanting something to fail, and being able to make it fail are two entirely different things. My background is in business, so I know first hand that Obamacare is not good for the economy nor small business and large corporations. So they are making the natural adjustment to deal it, it's just that the employees are the ones who are going to feel the brunt of the adjustment.
gerald t "But at the same time many people are losing there health care. No wonder young people turned out for obama. They see that the republicans deal lies and speak with a fork tounge."
But Obama can't create jobs for those young people, now can he gerald? If young people have good paying jobs, they can afford to buy their own healthcare if need be, but what good is it for young people who have tens of thousands of dollars in school loan debt, they have healthcare (in 2015) but no jobs to pay off their debts and get on with their lives? You say the Republicans deal with lies, are you naive to think that the Democratic Party is as pure as the driven snow? lol lol
anon "Hey Tyronne you hear the hate mongering white Republicans want to seccede from the US.Will you join the succession movement and go be the white mans slave again."
I see I'm not dealing with intelligence. People act to election results in different ways. Those white Republican who you mock for wanting succession from the United States are no different then those white Democrats who said that they were going to move to Canada if George Bush won re election, anything else of value?
Gerald T;"Fewer people having health care from there jobs any way".
CB;"Have any evidence of that Gerald, or is that just your opinion?.
You don't think he's right Tyrone? Or, are you again in denial....?
This article was written in Feb. 2009, which was a few months before the conservatives knew they were about to get socialized medicine. Perhaps you're to young to know, but the rising cost of health care has been an issue for years. In Jan. 2009 (before President Obama was inaugurated) many companies had, and were continually cutting health care benefits.
CB;"Those white Republican who you mock for wanting succession from the United States are no different then those white Democrats who said that they were going to move to Canada if George Bush won re election, anything else of value?".
Moving and seceding are two entirely different things. The government doesn't need to give you permission to move. Moreover, if South Carolina residents had decided to Canada in 1860, that whole Civil War thing might have been avoided.
When I buy pizza, I always buy my pizzas and subs from local shops.<<<
Tyrone, you mean to tell me that you rather buy your fast food from one of those unhygienic "greasy spoons" where you pay and get your food through a turnstile and two inches of plexiglas (Baltimore is known for such places)?
thanks allen good research.
Alpha dont want to debate facts. He has his own set of facts.
P allen why do you call alpha male CB? Is there some kind of pun or joke going on with that.
Gerald T-
p allen "
This article was written in Feb. 2009, which was a few months before the conservatives knew they were about to get socialized medicine. "
I thought you said Obamacare wasn't socialized medicine allen? Did I miss something? Furthermore, yes in a bad economy of course employees who lose their jobs will lose their healthcare also considering that the employer was offering health coverage as benefit to attact them as an employee. I should have mentioned that, but it was obvious.
p allen "Perhaps you're to young to know, but the rising cost of health care has been an issue for years."
Wasn't Obamacare suppose to have addressed the rising costs? It's not doing what it was intended to do allen. Costs are still going up now ever faster.
p allen "In Jan. 2009 (before President Obama was inaugurated) many companies had, and were continually cutting health care"
Well now they are simply cutting employees instead. Thanks to Obamacare.
p allen "Moving and seceding are two entirely different things. The government doesn't need to give you permission to move. Moreover, if South Carolina residents had decided to Canada in 1860, that whole Civil War thing might have been avoided. "
This is such a non issue. It's so lame, it' boring. Over 53 million people voted for Romney, and how many peopla are talking about seceding? The conservative governor of Texas Rick Perry even said point blank that Texas is not seceding period.
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