Palin for President in 2012 win or lose?
Win or lose next Tuesday, the political path has been laid for Governor Sarah Palin for a 2012 run. The media has done it's best to destroy not only the reputation of Sarah Palin but also any thoughts of her as a viable candidate for Vice President or even President. The only people that believe the image of Palin that the media have tried to paint are Obama supporters and the media itself. Even after all their attacks from the very first minute McCain announced her as his VP pick, her popularity has continued to grow and grow. Palin's appearance on Saturday Night Live two weeks ago was it's highest rated show in 14 years. Palin's Vice Presidential Debate with Joe Biden was the second most watched debate ever with only the debate between Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan as number one. Also, her speech at the Republican National Convention was the second most watched convention speech ever with 37.2 million viewers. Her speech as a Vice Presidential candidate nearly surpassed Barack Obama's speech at the DNC by only a million more viewers. I have five reasons why Sarah Palin will be on the political radar leading into the Republican primaries in 2012.
Popularity
Governor Palin's popularity is massive regardless of what the media tries to say. She is right now to the Republican Party what Barack Obama was four years ago to the Democrat Party. She's a "rising star". It was the selection of Sarah Palin that excited and solidified the conservative base around McCain in the first place. Palin's popularity is responsible for millions of women copying Palin's hairstyle and buying the same type of glasses she wears. Governor Palin's popularity transcends beyond fashion. Polls taken have shown that Sarah Pallin has a higher likability factor then Joe Biden, also most Americans believe that the negative coverage of Palin by the media is due to an anti Palin bias by the national media. Several websites have popped up to generate grass root support for Palin to run in 2012. She is able to connect with mainstream voters, and she has the ability to come across as a normal everyday person. Many candidates on the local, state and national levels don't have that ability or presence. If Palin decides to run for President in 2012, she won't have to worry about standing out from the crowd. She will instantly benefit from her national name recognition. Raising money for a primary campaign run shouldn't be a problem at all.
2.The Obama presidency
If Barack Obama governors like I think he will if he wins. I have no doubt at all that he will be a "one and out" President just like Jimmy Carter. The massive sell offs in the stock market recently are investors predicting that Obama will win the election. The stock market is intertwined with the economy. As the stock market falls, people suffer from a decline in the "wealth effect". People tend to spend less when they are feeling poorer. That translates into companies not hitting earning projections set by analyst, and that then impacts the prices of the stocks causing them to decline further. It becomes a vicious economic cycle. Obama won't fix the economy. He's a hard left Socialist, and Socialist policies do not promote economic growth in a free market economy. Obama is going to have run on his record if he wins four years down the road. He won't have the luxury of passing the buck against Republicans when the economy is in the tubes, because Republicans really won't be able to stop Democrats as a minority party. Any candidate that runs against Obama in four years clearly will be in a much stronger position then right now. Palin will have the ability to rally a lot of ticked off people that voted for Obama thinking he was actually going to fix the economy but made matters even worse.
3. No ammunition from the media to use against Palin
The media has dug up all the so called dirt possible on Sarah Palin. They have now been reduced to attackin her on her "wardrobe". The media didn't say one word about Barack Obama's connection with Tony Rezko and the land deal that allowed Obama to build his million dollar house, but to the media they are focusing on the October surprise of "dress gate". Anyways, the media has already exhausted the story of Palin's pregnant daughter and "trooper gate" was a non starter. It will look extremely petty for the media to rehash the same old news against Palin in 2012. The political landscape four years from now will be entirely different. Palin got a taste of how the media operates, and she will be better prepared to deal with them four years out.
4. Sarah Palin would be the first female to win the nomination for President of a Political Party.
In the Republican Primary, her being a conservative female will serve as an asset. I hate to bring up race and gender, but the facts are still the facts. Republican women make up a huge portion of the Republican electorate, and they are major backers of Palin right now. I really don't see that changing after November 4th win or lose.
5. Sarah Palin is very bright and extremely ambitious
Don't mistake her easy going motherly personality for that of cream puff. Some Republicans in the McCain campaign are already saying that Palin has gone "rogue". In other words, she is doing things on the campaign more so to benefit her in a possible run in 2012 then to help McCain win right now. I guess the old saying is true "leave a lasting impression". It's hard to say if McCain will blame Palin if they come up short next Tuesday. If the McCain camp does blame Palin, it's only going to boomerang right back at them. Sarah Palin has right now going into next week something John McCain has never had. She has to backing of the conservative movement and most Republicans and she knows it.
Right now as it stands, I am torn. I really like Sarah Palin, and I would have loved to see a second debate between her and Joe Biden. She does have a "rockstar" presence about her, and she has great potential four years from now. I'm also a fan of Bobby Jindal. He has also been refereed to as the rising star of the Republican Party. Some conservatives have called him "the second coming of Ronald Regan". One thing is for certain, the mistake of running a sheep in conservative clothing won't be repeated in 2012 as with McCain if he loses. As for Governor Palin, the media better fear her, because they can't and won't be able to destroy her. Palin is going to stick around for awhile win or lose Tuesday.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 6:23 PM
26 Comments:
At least there will be choices for true conservatives to pick from if Jindal and Palin decided to run. This election season for conservatives has been crap soup IMHO. Palin would probably have the edge amongst the people because of the exposure and vitriol that has come against her. My guess is that the media would try and do the same with Jindal but not quite as bad because he is a man unless he finds himself in the same situation as Palin with having a child with a birth defect maybe.
Palin is great. There are hockey mamas, black women who have sons who play hockey and hunt. Sarah Smile song by Lloyd Mercer is great on UTUBE. It is amazing how blacks have joioned the party of the KKK, who wanted to keep them in slavery. BAMBOOZLED IS NOT THE WORD. STUPID IS A BETTER ONE as the Muslims have said in their holy books Tabari 1:280 Allah created black women stupid. WHY ARE MY PEOPLE SO STUPID. FREE STUFF HAS GOTTEN US IN TROUBLE. The Dems have surrounded us once again.
CB says;"As for Governor Palin, the media better fear her, because they can't and won't be able to destroy her."
I really do feel sorry for Palin, yet, for not quite the same reasons as yours Tyrone.
Palin has time and time again made some totally "stupid" comments. Here again (no need to post a link) Palin tell's an interviewer;
"for reporters or columnists to suggest that it is going negative may constitute an attack that threatens a candidate's free speech rights under the Constitution."
and
"If [the media] convince enough voters that that is negative campaigning, for me to call Barack Obama out on his associations, then I don't know what the future of our country would be in terms of First Amendment rights"
No if's, and's or buts, statements such as these shows a complete lack of understanding of both the constitution and the press's role in American politics. For her to believe that "the media" is responsible for, or capable of denying her of a 1st amendment right is just plain stupid.
Defend those statements if you will Tyrone. Yet by doing so will only tell me that there's some other reason for your advocacy of Palin. It's obvious now that she is not very bright, (when it comes to politics and government in general) and totally lacks the common sense to govern on her own. Methinks you should stick with Jindal for future elections....
pamela "At least there will be choices for true conservatives to pick from if Jindal and Palin decided to run."
That is the only positive outcome that can come from an Obama win pamela. It will be like the light at the end of a four year very long tunnel pamela. I heard McCain give an interview to ABC news, he was asked if he won would he have Demcorats in his cabinet. McCain said yes, and the reporter asked how many?!! I wanted to bang my head against the wall, because I know Obama will never be asked if he will have Republicans in his administration. Second, McCain's response just reinforces why I have to hold my nose to help drag that fool across the finish line. McCain is no foot solider of the Reagan Revolution, that is definitely a lie.
pamela "alin would probably have the edge amongst the people because of the exposure and vitriol that has come against her
I still can't find one positive story a member of the so called media has written about Sarah Palin pamela. I'm being seroius too. I can type in "BARACK OBAMA", and I will be flooded with positive feel good stories about hims. With Palin the stories are ALL negative. 2008 is the offical year that Journalistic Integrity has been rendered obsolete. Jindal better take some notes on how the media treats conservatives and republicans they think is and will be a threat pamela.Hell, look what happened to poor Joe the plumber. Instead of focusing on the issue of what Obama said about redistribution of wealth, they went after Joe himself to try and discredit and smear him! The media has become the digital brown shirts of the left. I don't believe they will go after Jindal as bad put it will be close. The media championed Obama's race in this election from day one. Watch the media do an absolute 180 degree flip and attack Jindal based on his race, because he is a conservative republican. It will be similar almost to how the media tried to frame the argument that Romney couldn't have won the nomination because "conservatives" would have never nominated a "moron" for President. Everybody on the right knows that if it weren't for Huckabee staying in the race and attacking Romney, Romney would have beaten McCain and won the nomination.
P Allen "Palin has time and time again made some totally "stupid" comments. Here again (no need to post a link) Palin tell's an interviewer;"
An interviewer that is purposely trying to sabatoge her image allen, you left that part out. Do some research allen on this, compare the questions asked in the interviews by Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric towards Barack Obama, then COMPARE THEM with the questions Katie and Charlie aske Sarah Palin then get back to me on that. Charlie Gibson asked Sarah Palin about her thoughts on the "Bush Doctrine" allen!! Give me a freaking break!!!Time for logic. Why would a governor of a state need to know what the Bush Doctrine is allen? Also, why didn't Charlie Gibson ask Barack Obama that same question seeing that he is the one actually running for President. 90% of Americans don't know what the Bush Doctrine is. Also, why was Palin asked what her "foreign policy" experience is?Once again Governors don't have foreign policy experience". It goes to prove my point that the questions were loaded for the express purpose to humiliate her. As allen, Biden has made some VERY VERY STUPID and crazy remarks within the last three weeks. They now have him locked in a room until after the election because of it. Isn't it funny how the media hasn't said ONE WORD ABOUT BIDEN's "stupid" remarks? Please try to justify this allen. Biden has been promoted as a "statesman" who's been on the political scene for awhile by the media. Post your links allen. I want to get the full context of what Palin said, you should know how I operate by now lol.
Jindal/Palin? What a great ticket. Talk about diversity!
The libs will hate it with a passion!
RB;"An interviewer that is purposely trying to sabatoge her image allen, you left that part out."
The interviewer was Chris Plante, a self described conservative... Perhaps he was trying to sabotage her image, I don't know. But the fact remains that she gave those remarks on her own volition.
Here's the story I read from ABC NEWS. It includes a link to WMAL's website and the entire interview Palin gave to Chris Plante.
CB;"As allen, Biden has made some VERY VERY STUPID and crazy remarks within the last three weeks. Isn't it funny how the media hasn't said ONE WORD ABOUT BIDEN's "stupid" remarks? Please try to justify this allen."
I heard Biden's remark's, and yes they were quite stupid. But Biden does not need "the media" to tell him he's made stupid remarks.
You, and I, and the rest of America can judge Biden's remarks without him our anyone else saying or believing that it "limits his constitutional rights to make a stupid remark"!
As far as "the media" is concerned, conservatives have cried and moaned about "liberal" media and "liberal" media coverage almost to no end!!
The fact is, "MEDIA" is where ever you wish to get it! There are hundred's if not thousands of media outlet's "WORLD WIDE" where you can get information. As a politician, (and one who's running in a national election) you can get comments made by a candidate within moments (seconds) of them making it- no matter where you are in the world. How else did "YOU" here about Biden's gaff???
Media bias is nothing new, hell, they're only human!!! You can get all the information you want, and then some...All you need to do is, seek it out... IT'S A FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT!!!!
Palins complaint is based on what she perceives as bias. What she believes about the media has absolutely nothing to do with her constitutional rights!
This situation is cut and dry! There is no way you can "spin" or defend such an obviously stupid comment. The fact is, the more conservative's try to "cover" for her gaff's, the more she will make. And that's a guarantee that the remarks will become even more outrageously stupid!
"Defend those statements if you will Tyrone. Yet by doing so will only tell me that there's some other reason for your advocacy of Palin. It's obvious now that she is not very bright, (when it comes to politics and government in general) and totally lacks the common sense to govern on her own. Methinks you should stick with Jindal for future elections...."
None of those comments are worse than the comments of "clinging to guns and religion" and going around questions of past associations like Ayers, Khalid, etc. Or throwing hissy fits when the media like West has the nerves to ask the tough ones to Biden. Funny, when the shoe is on the liberal foot, the media is seen as partisan, but when Palin gets it from the media, she is stupid to you.
Nice double standard there.
"No if's, and's or buts, statements such as these shows a complete lack of understanding of both the constitution and the press's role in American politics. For her to believe that "the media" is responsible for, or capable of denying her of a 1st amendment right is just plain stupid."
Liberals use the arguments of how Rev Wright's "free speech" were violated when he was called to task for his remarks. Recall that?
Need I remind you liberals are far worse when it comes to understanding the first amendment in matters of religion, so hence they insist that the first amendment means Christians can't pray publically, Christians can't force their morals on others, etc., on grounds that would violate their notion of church and state. Or their false understanding of that term, I should say.
Hence, you have fiascos like chaplains resigning rather than force to conduct services devoid of praying in the name of Jesus.
CB,
Liberals, who attack Palin, not only conveniently "forget" about how Biden conducts his interviews, but how Obama says things in the past that bites him as well.
I do notice alot of the attacks on Palin early on from liberals to show she is "stupid" is because 1) she believes creationism should be allowed to be discussed in science classes, 2) she believes in pro-life views, 3) she believes abstinence should be taught.
Basically, their insults at her intelligence is an insult to any and every decent Christian there is.
"You, and I, and the rest of America can judge Biden's remarks without him our anyone else saying or believing that it "limits his constitutional rights to make a stupid remark"!"
Here is the problem- the liberal media obsessively harps on errors or even slightly perceived errors on part of Palin, but are totally glossing over or ignoring errors by Biden (not pointing out his errors repeatedly on history like FDR and Great Compression is one big example) as well as glossing over anything that might be damaging to Obama either in word, deed, or association.
And let's face it- Palin has been herself subjected to stupid remarks after stupid remarks from liberal media hacks like Cintra Wilson, Mary Mitchell, etc., etc., which if had been done on a liberal lady like Hiliary or done on Obama, would have been considered hate speeches and writings by liberals.
The bottom line is neither Biden nor Obama goes through the extent of scrutiny that Palin got.
And at the real level of hatred the liberal media has for Palin comes down to the fact that she is a conservative Christian female.
P Allen this is the paragraph from ABC news. "ABC News' Steven Portnoy reports: In a conservative radio interview that aired in Washington, D.C. Friday morning, Republican vice presidential nominee Gov. Sarah Palin said she fears her First Amendment rights may be threatened by "attacks" from reporters who suggest she is engaging in a negative campaign against Barack Obama.
She is absolutely right!!! I wouldn't expect you to understand what she is saying allen, but from a media bias standpoint I see it very clearly. What good is having freedom of speech when the media isn't either going to report it or they are going to alter it too suit their purpose. Listen to her comments from the Republican National Convention and her debate with Biden. She makes references to being able to communicate with the public "without the filters of the media". I remember just a few weeks ago CNN did an interview with Palin, and the interview for CNN purposely misquoted Byron York from National Review Online.
http://newsbusters.org/people/byron-york
P Allen "I heard Biden's remark's, and yes they were quite stupid. But Biden does not need "the media" to tell him he's made stupid remarks."
Biden is suppose to have all the experience allen, remember? Biden has given hundreds of interviews over his extremely long and boring political career allen. You know this. You libs and the media are the ones that say Palin is "inexperienced". So if that is truly the case, what is Biden's excuse?
P allen "As far as "the media" is concerned, conservatives have cried and moaned about "liberal" media and "liberal" media coverage almost to no end!!"
If I laughed any louder, I might wet my pants allen. I don't cry about anything, I present facts. If you want I can name a laundry list of double standards and unilateral attack journalism leved against palin and protecting Obama. I don't care if Republicans or Conservatives are attacked Allen. I do care though when Demcorats and liberals aren't attacked as well. In every instance I exposed I never said that Republicans or conservatives should not be fairly looked at when doing a story allen. If you can find me saying different, please state it. So I just shut you down on that approach.Simply put, If I thought Palin wasn't up for the job I would say so period. During the primaries, I've gone after Ron Paul, Mitt Romney Fred Thomson, MIke huckabee and John McCain, so I wouldn't call myself an absolute loyalist allen. If Palin ever does wrong in eyes, I wills say something. I won't go out of my way to nitpick though. I like Palin based on how she has handled herself and her personality and convictions.
thuyen tran "None of those comments are worse than the comments of "clinging to guns and religion" and going around questions of past associations like Ayers, Khalid, etc. Or throwing hissy fits when the media like West has the nerves to ask the tough ones to Biden. Funny, when the shoe is on the liberal foot, the media is seen as partisan, but when Palin gets it from the media, she is stupid to you."
Obama's remarks were pretty stupid. It's because of similar remarks by Jack Murtha he finds himself in the fight of his life for his house seat. I guess the "rednecks" aren't too happy with Murtha right now thuyen.
thuyen tran "
Need I remind you liberals are far worse when it comes to understanding the first amendment in matters of religion, so hence they insist that the first amendment means Christians can't pray publically, Christians can't force their morals on others, etc., on grounds that would violate their notion of church and state. Or their false understanding of that term, I should say."
YOU NAILED IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD THUYEN!!
Liberals don't understand the second amendment pertaining to the right to own and bear arms. How stupid are they in relaity, they think "freedom of religion" means "freedom from religion". Liberals shouldn't be talking about anyone not knowing the constitution. They don't have a leg to stand on.
thuyen tran "
Liberals, who attack Palin, not only conveniently "forget" about how Biden conducts his interviews, but how Obama says things in the past that bites him as we"
Of course thuyen. If Palin would have gotten mad durin the interview, the media would report that day that Sarah Palin has an attitude or was upset for being asked hard questions.
thuyen tran "
I do notice alot of the attacks on Palin early on from liberals to show she is "stupid" is because 1) she believes creationism should be allowed to be discussed in science classes, 2) she believes in pro-life views, 3) she believes abstinence should be taught.
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Thank thuyen, you just addressed the core reason why liberals and the media can't stand Palin. She is a moral woman with deep held Christian views. The left can't stand a person like that. I don't recall liberals or the media ever trying to bring down a pro abortion leftwing liberal. Liberals have always referred to conservatives as "Jesus Freaks and "Bible Thumpers"etc. Oh yeah, they hate Palin because she is a member of the NRA and she hunts and she pro life. What's there for liberals to like about her thuyen? lol lol lol lol
Thuyen, you noticed that tried to use the same "stupid label" against George Bush, Ronald Reagan and Dan Quayle. So really their attacks on Palin is just th recycling of a drawn out and outdated attack book thuyen.
Tran says;"Liberals use the arguments of how Rev Wright's "free speech" were violated when he was called to task for his remarks. Recall that?"
Ahhh...no, I don't recall.. If "liberals" were to use such an argument, I would be the first to call them as stupid as Palin.
CB;"She is absolutely right!!! I wouldn't expect you to understand what she is saying allen, but from a media bias standpoint I see it very clearly."
She's right???? Okay then! The following statement is "absolutely right"!!!
"for WAKE UP BLACK AMERICA to suggest that it is going negative may constitute an attack that threatens a candidate's free speech rights under the Constitution."
So now, "you" can threaten a candidates free speech rights!
This discussion is so stupid...
THERE IS ONLY ONE ENTITY THAT CAN "THREATEN" YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT.... TAKE THE QUIZ TO SEE IF YOU KNOW;
1. A "Joe The Plumber & Rodney King" presidential ticket
2. The O'Reilly Factor
3. A.C.O.R.N.'s Mickey Mouse voter
4. Sponge Bob Squarepants
HINT: The answer is "not" on the list....
Allen,
You need to read some of the media, who actually demands that Palin be "censured" for the alleged hate speech of those at her rally (even when it has been shown that the allegations are fraudulent).
Or the media saying because of she is a mother of five children, her place is in the home not out there speaking for her views, that they used to demean her as some Stepford wife over.
The media may not actually violate her first amendment rights but they are demanding she give them up so she can take care of her family and be punished for alleged hate speech (even when not attributed to her, and even when those who are supposedly responsible have been shown not to have said them directed at Obama).
And go back and read some of the liberals in the media defending Wright. They DID claim his free speech was violated.
I find it also ironic the liberal media blasts Palin over this first amendment flap yet closes ranks behind ACORN, which is playing race card and claiming voter suppression and intimidation of its group (like violation of first amendment right to assembly) for getting minorities out to vote. ACORN has been caught or suspected in frauds in like 17 states and counting, and it plays the race card, with the liberal media backing it up on that?
And the liberal media wants us to think Palin is stupid for playing first amendment card when ACORN and the liberal media backing it are doing PRECISELY THE SAME THING?
I have had enough of Palin. She is overmatched.
The G.O.P. is in shambles.
I don't mean to stir the pot up in here, as I am a Dem going right into the belly of the beast. Hopefully, I will be able to thoughtfully express myself on your blog. I will summarize why the right-wing is in big trouble:
1: G.O.P. mission called into question:
Reaganomics: tax cuts, deregulation, deficit spending, etc is dead. Why? The tax cuts did not come with further cuts in spending. It was as if the Republican Party were pandering for votes.
The collapse of the stock market is largely due to the frenzied speculation of this cheap money / laissez-faire era. The legacy of republican Fed chair Greenspan is being destroyed right now.
2: Social Conservatives: This unlikely coalition of Southern / Rust Belt / Appalachian whites with Northeast money men is in jeopardy. The high energy costs and outsourcing of manufacturing have decimated this group to the point where they are jumping ship. Working class America is voting with its pocketbook - rather than a gun rack and a Bible.
Are you joking? This women(a mistaken choice that will help sink Mccain's campaign) will melt back into obscurity shortly after the election. I really don't get the hepped up reaction to her. Other then the sexist reaction to her by many males, I see a pretty lame politician.
"This women(a mistaken choice that will help sink Mccain's campaign) will melt back into obscurity shortly after the election"
That is funny Palin is blamed by liberals for sinking McCain's campaign. She draws comparable crowd to Obama.
And the sexist remarks come largely also from the radical feminist writers who think any woman who is a Christian, believes in creationism, or believes in life and abstinence is a fool, anti-woman, etc. I find it funny the same liberals who will bash her as in their mind brainless thinks she is that big of a threat to their own value system.
Kofi, I took a look at your blog and find your views quite insightful. (aka "very good insight") I, like you, am a Democratic (Liberal)voter. I will keep your blog Bookmarked and would like to post a few comments over the coming months.
However, I like commenting on conservative blogs (this one in particular)because I like the varied idea's and the spirit of the debate. It definitely breaks the monotony of the left-leaning blogs which tends to become a "love-fest" after a few posted comments.
You will find that Tyrone is a very bright guy who is sincere and quite passionate in his views. I'm sure he would welcome you as a frequent poster.
kofi "I have had enough of Palin. She is overmatched.The G.O.P. is in shambles."
I guess you would have enough of Palin kofi, you're a Democrat duh lol
Your statement is funny. How exactly is Sarah Palin "over matched"? Also, who is she over matched too? If anything, Barack Obama is massively
"overrated" and "mass marketed". Since McCain finally let Palin be herself, she has been on fire! If I thought Palin was truly a weak candidate, I would say so. I've trashed McCain since the Republican Primaries. Sarah Palin is what she is, and she is that good.
P Allen "You will find that Tyrone is a very bright guy who is sincere and quite passionate in his views. I'm sure he would welcome you as a frequent poster."
Ah shucks allen, now I'm going to blush! :-)lol Na, your right though. Kofi, your more them welcome here. A good debate is good for the mind. It's like a mental exercise. I still believe that 95% of liberals are mentally screwed up, they're are still 5% of liberals that are actually pretty decent people just wrong in their views lol
To be honest I would rather have her as my president than John McCain and the snakeoil salesman Obama anyday.
Sarah Palin you rock girl!
Obama the chump change candidate!
How is Palin overmatched?
1: Her Katie Couric interview has been ridiculed as a disaster.
2: The 'Russia' comment.
3: Lack of strong energy policy other than drilling the ANWR.
4: Backtracked on 'The Bridge to Nowhere.' First, she is for it, then she is against it. A true Maverick.
You know who is next in line for the G.O.P?
Jindal. The Indian-American governor out of Louisiana.
And thanks for checking out my blog - I will try to keep the hits coming.
News is leaking out that Palin greeted staffers with nothing on but a towel.
Todd must be pissed.
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