Witness white liberal racism in action featuring Janeane Garofalo.
It's no secret except to loyal black liberal Democrats that white liberal Democrats don't like blacks who don't subscribe to their "ideological way of thinking". When white Democrat liberals are questioned whether they're racists or not, they will always say no and act offended for being asked. These people have always appeared on the radar of denial. I've debated my fair share of white liberal Democrats, and their tactics are basically text book. They are so use to using the boiler plate claim that white conservatives and Republicans are "racists" by default. I tend to derail their train of "thought" when they discover I'm a black Republican conservative. When they try to debate me, I always tend to strike a nerve with them. I guess they've never encountered a black conservative that is extremely analytical and very sarcastic towards liberalism in general. Normally after I finish destroying their futile arguments about race and conservatism, they tend to get extremely frustrated with me.Then normally their true nature comes out. They're nature being the one they acuse white conservatives of being. I've been a conservative for a long time and a Republican almost as long, and I can honestly say that the only racism I've ever experience has come exclusively from liberals. Once again these are the people that claim to "embrace diversity". What Janeane Garofalo and Keith Olberman said is what white liberals think about blacks that don't "follow their lead". Watch this video of what Janeane spewed about Michael Steele and judge for yourself. Michael Steele is his own man, and he has every right in which to think and believe how he sees fit.
Maybe Janeane can borrow Robert Byrd's old Klan outfit. Maybe I should send her a Klu Klux Klan outfit. I wonder what her reaction would be? I bet she wouldn't think it was funny. I really wish I could have a chance to debate that intellectual half wit. Even though she is on the same intelligence level as Meghan McCain, I would still debate her. I would systemically embarrass and humiliate her in five minutes just for laughs. If a White Republican would have called Barack Obama "a self loathing black man". They're would have been no place in this country for that person to hide. Olberman could have corrected Garofalo, but he basically agreed with her. I guess I have to take solace in knowing that she will be nothing more then an irrelevant, second rate, washed up has been that never was first rate to begin with.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 12:41 AM
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I WONDER IF PRESIDENT OBAMA WILL PAY TO REMOVE HER TATTOOS LIKE THE JAIL PERSONS.
wHY ARE bLACKS ILL FOR BEING rEPUBLICANS. Tyrone, call to debate her and him. They are so far gone its sick. She is a naive, racist unbeknowingly to her delicate, mindless, demobotic, self-righteous, demoralizing self.
Are Democratics who are black suffering also, since the Dems were the KKK and the Whig, and were the ones who created JIM CROW, segregation and allowed slavery in America to exist. Blacks who joined the enemy are traitors. Republicans were organized to stop slavery in 1854 and 500000 white men died freeing the same black democratic descendants of the millions of slaves under the Democratics. There were a few free slaves and they were Republicans. (smile)
GO GET HER TYRONE.
I find white liberals to be more vile than Klansmen. At least Klansmen are honest about their racism and bigotry. Liberals are racist too but none of them will ever own up to it!
The way they attack black conservatives or any other nonwhite person who doesn't agree with them is sickening.
They supposedly champion women's rights but they attack women who don't share their warped and sick mindset. Liberals are not pro-diversity it's a myth that needs to be destroyed!
Look at Hollywood a den of Liberalism notice how they typecast non-white actors in certain roles. Non-white actors always play the same type of character meaning they act as non-white characters are expected to act rather than being individuals like white characters.
CB;"They are so use to using the boiler plate claim that white conservatives and Republicans are "racists" by default."
Ahhh...Yeah! The Republican Party is the "default-to" party for racist types. Ask David Duke, The Council Of Conservative Citizens, Jared Taylor or American Renaissance. By the same token, the Democratic party is the "default-to" to party for Black radical groups.
Both parties demonetize each other for their supposed lack of racial sensitivity. However, both parties have elements of the same traits which each accuse the other having. For either to deny racist attitudes exist by some within their own party is disingenuous, if not naive.
Both sides have Black's and White's pointing fingers declaring racism, yet no one seems to know, or ask why. It is my opinion that it's all about "votes" and voting bloc habits. It's only evident and common sense that a politician and/or his political party want's your vote. If the specter of racism can be used to achieve this, then it becomes political fair game.
CB;"Michael Steele is his own man, and he has every right in which to think and believe how he sees fit."
Hardly! At one time I thought Steele was his own man, until a drugged out junkie radio show host sent him to his knee's. I, being my own man, would never apologize for speaking my mind. Especially if what I said was a personal observation made in context and with truth.
Breaking News!
Public Policy Polling says in a new poll that a 2012 presidential election bout between Sarah Palin and President Obama, would result in an Obama blowout and thrashing of Palin!
In January of this year Rasmussen Reports polls showed that Palin had a 60% approval rating among Republicans.
I'm voting Republican in the 2012 primaries! Palin for the GOP!
p allen "Ahhh...Yeah! The Republican Party is the "default-to" party for racist types. Ask David Duke, The Council Of Conservative Citizens, Jared Taylor or American Renaissance. By the same token, the Democratic party is the "default-to" to party for Black radical group"
Didn't jmk educate you on the issue of the Council of Conservative Citzens allen a few months ago? David Duke has no credibility withing the conservative ranks and the Republican Party. Allen, you've seen me go after Republicans and even conservatives when they are wrong. You on the other hand will defend them tooth and nail knowing they are wrong as two left shoes. When you posted I didn't see any comdenation from you on what Janeane said allen. Why is that? You immediately tried to deflect the attention off of her allen, Why is it that as a conservative?
p allen "Both parties demonetize each other for their supposed lack of racial sensitivity. However, both parties have elements of the same traits which each accuse the other having. For either to deny racist attitudes exist by some within their own party is disingenuous, if not naive."
And you still didn't denounce what she said as a full blown liberal allen. I don't recall white or black conservatives calling black liberals "self loathing" allen for being liberals. Why can't you just call a spade a spade? Why are you carrying that racist's water allen?
p allen "Both sides have Black's and White's pointing fingers declaring racism, yet no one seems to know, or ask why. It is my opinion that it's all about "votes" and voting bloc habits."
Why do you're fellow liberals call non white conservatives or Republicans "sellout", "traitors", "self loathing" etc allen? You liberals talk so much about "diversity", yet non white Republicans and conservatives are the definition o "diversity". Please explain. What Janeane Garofalo and Keith Olberman said was beyond anti diversity. It was as closed minded as closed minded can get. So once again, why can't you denounce her allen?
p allen" It's only evident and common sense that a politician and/or his political party want's your vote. If the specter of racism can be used to achieve this, then it becomes political fair game."
Janeane calling blacks that don't vote democrat "self loathing was an attempt to get blacks to vote form them allen? Does not compute allen. It's actually comments like Garofalo that turns away non white voters that are value and issue oriented voters. She believes that blacks and other racial groups are suppose to be sub servant to the Democrat Party. It is suppose to be their natural role as a person. According toe liberals like Garofalo, blacks and other non whites are self hating if they don't up here to their "role in life" of severing the party.
p allen "Hardly! At one time I thought Steele was his own man, until a drugged out junkie radio show host sent him to his knee's. I, being my own man, would never apologize for speaking my mind. Especially if what I said was a personal observation made in context and with truth."
People can say something that they latter regret. I can care less whether Steele apologized or not for his comments. It astonishing listening to liberals that called Michael a "simple sambo", "boot licking uncle tom" now losing respect for him because he apologized to Limbaugh. It's amazing why people have yet to figure out why I'm not a liberal.As for the junkie comment. Do you know how many junkies are registered as Democrats allen? Hollywood is the liberal coke capital of America. How many conservative actors or actresses do you find on Celebrity Rehab?
You're poll is pretty funny allen. I got a good laugh from. You know that I can break down polls and find out their flaws allen right? The poll is worthless without the polling of independents allen lol lol lol lol A presidency is won or lose by a candidates ability to secure their bases and attract the majority of independent and swing voters. You're poll is missing that CRITICAL VOTING BLOCK!! Breaking News alright lol lol
Also in you're joke of a poll, it says Obama is leading palin 55-35. When you add that up allen, it only comes to 90%. Who got the other 10%. Third party candidates at best only get about 1 to 2% of the national vote. To bring me a poll that doesn't list independents is insulting to me allen. lol Obama's numbers are already on the decline. Obama even with his numbers falling hasn't reached his 100 days yet. You're joke of a poll even said it was way too early. Elections are also won on the economy. The only way Obama has a chance to win is if this economy turns around. It's not going to come down to Palin's daughter but actually issues. Sorry to break the news to you like that.
It's always better to give then receive allen.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123690358175013837.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
You're so focused on Palin, you better focus on this
Overall, Rasmussen Reports shows a 56%-43% approval, with a third strongly disapproving of the president's performance.
This is a substantial degree of polarization so early in the administration. Mr. Obama has lost virtually all of his Republican support and a good part of his Independent support, and the trend is decidedly negative.
I think I recall saying something about independents lol. He's setting himself up perfectly as the new age Carter, lol.
Allen is a slave to the same party who loved slvery and promoted slavery in America from the beginning. Now he is a bonafide memeber of the Democratic plantation. While some blacks say "go Down Moses, Tell ole Democratic Pharaoh, let my people gooooooooooo. Some blacks say, "I can't give it up, nooooooooooo.
The Muslims in New Orleans area are registering dead people to vote.
Will ACORN be the civil army bigger than the Army? Full of the religious police as in Saudi Arabia.
Will they be allowed to serve only home with no pictures on the wall and no black dogs. Has the Democratic Party morphed into the IslamoMarxist Party of Europe imported to America since the 1850s
First, Conservative Brother, sorry to hear, according to Janeane, you suffer from Stockholm Syndrome. I wish you well in your recovery. :)
Second, in this last election cycle, the only people I spoke to that would not vote for Obama because of his skin color, were.....
....drum role please.
LIBERALS
Real Conservatives do not give a rats rear end what skin color someone has. Period.
Dan
CB;"Didn't jmk educate you on the issue of the Council of Conservative Citizens allen a few months ago?"
Ahhh...NO!
Why would JMK need to educate me about the Council of Conservative Citizens? The question should be, "do you know who the CofCC are", Tyrone? Should I educate you?
CB;"David Duke has no credibility withing the conservative ranks and the Republican Party."
Perhaps not, but how do "you" know? Duke had enough credibility and constituency, to win a Louisiana State Representative seat....as a "Republican". Yet a Republican like Alan Keyes can't win "Dog Catcher" with an "(R)" behind his name....why? By those standards, "credibility" obviously doesn't mean much to Louisiana Republicans. I'd guess that would explain electing Bobby Jindal...
CB;"When you posted I didn't see any comdenation from you on what Janeane said allen. Why is that?"
I didn't hear her say anything racist.
Garofalo said she believes that Blacks (and women) of the Republican party suffer from "Stockholm Syndrome." Thats her opinion. Do I believe that? No! Is the comment "self loathing" a racist comment? I don't see how...
I've often heard Conservatives refer to the Democratic party as the "Democratic Plantation" when referencing Blacks who vote Democrat? Tell me, what can be more "self-loathing" than a plantation slave, who not only votes for his "master", but promotes and enjoys it? That being said, if you truly believe that referring to some one as self loathing is racist, then you'd have to agree that racism comes from both sides.
CB;"Janeane calling blacks that don't vote democrat "self loathing was an attempt to get blacks to vote form them allen? Does not compute allen."
Right! Because the self loathing comment is not racist!!! You're the one that's claiming it is! Look Tyrone, if Garofalo had used a monkey, watermelon, tap dancing, shoe shining, nappy head, chucking a spear, or the term "buck", as any part of her reference to Michael Steele, then I would be apt to agree she made a racist comment.
Also, when I said that the use of race as a way to garner votes, I was referring to the way some Democrats "broad brush" paint the Republican party as a method of demonetizing the opposition. Yet the fact still remains that "both" parties use the same if not similar tactics.
CB;"As for the junkie comment. Do you know how many junkies are registered as Democrats allen?"
Do you mean "entertainers who make incendiary and ugly" comments? I'm sure there are some. But Democratic leaders don't apologize to them!
CB;"You're poll is pretty funny allen. I got a good laugh from."
Ahhh! Very good, I thought you'd like it. It was meant to be funny! I, for one , am not a big fan nor a follower of polls. I tend to rely on actual results...
Can anyone tell me a "mental attribute" which would allow any non-White person to expect ALL WHITE FOLKS to agree upon lest they have a mental disorder?
I DO NOT BLAME JANEANE GAROFALO for this though!!!!!
You all know as well as I do that the WHITE SNARLING FOXES know what they can say about Blacks and which Blacks are off limits. At the same time these racist White liberal Snarling Foxes have taken a queue from Black Quasi-Socialist Progressive-Fundamentalist Racism Chasers with regard to the fact that the BLACK CONSERVATIVE is "open game" - free to be shot down without retribution.
Even Black people who can't stand the sight of a Black Conservative should use the same "insight" that allowed them to see "Barack Obama" when they saw a cartoon of a chimp to see that Janeane Garofalo made a generalization about WHAT "RIGHT THINKING" BLACK PEOPLE SHOULD THINK.
Black people are too often stripped from our full human dimensions both by BLACK FOLKS AND WHITE!!
Now if I were to say: "Why on EARTH would a Black person living in DC, Baltimore, Milwaukee, Rochester, Camden, Newark, St Louis or Cleveland actually VOTE to give the ideology and party that is failing them at the local level a PROMOTION into national power?" THIS would sufficiently place Ms Garofalo (and Chuck D) in the position of having to defend their own line of thinking as expressed on the streets of these cities as compared to their desire to put the Conservative on trial all of the time.
danhat " First, Conservative Brother, sorry to hear, according to Janeane, you suffer from Stockholm Syndrome. I wish you well in your recovery. :)"
Since Janeane Garofalo suffers from failing in radio, a failed career as a comedian and suffers from not having any talent. I won't hold it against her that much. She has suffered more then me by far. lol
danhat "Second, in this last election cycle, the only people I spoke to that would not vote for Obama because of his skin color, were.........drum role please.LIBERALS"
That is the dirty little not so secret that liberals can't come to grips with. obama's own VP Joe Biden was fascinated that a black man could be articulate and clean.They brought up the issue of race almost on a daily basis during the campagin. The attacks against Obama came from his "tolerant" hypocrites supporters of diversity. They know full well they don't give a crap about Obama. If Obama was a conservative or Republican, liberals would be the first with the racial knives sharpened to go after him. They are only fooling themselves. Conservatives don't play that mess. That's why I really don't have much respect for liberalism. It was the liberal's racial attacks on Clarence Thomas that started me questioning why I was a Democrat. At the time I just thought of Clarance Thomas a black man with a different viewpoint then I, and that was it. When I heard liberals both black and white call him such vile and despicable racial names, that really got me thinking hard. Maybe that is why I have such a tremendous amount of respect for Thomas.
Second, in this last election cycle, the only people I spoke to that would not vote for Obama because of his skin color, were.....
....drum role please.
LIBERALS
Real Conservatives do not give a rats rear end what skin color someone has. Period.
Dan
p allen "Perhaps not, but how do "you" know? Duke had enough credibility and constituency, to win a Louisiana State Representative seat....as a "Republican"."
Bobby Jindal was elected to congress in one of the most conservative districts in Louisiana. He was then elected Governor of the state of Louisiana allen. Try another example allen, that one didn't do so hot. Also, when was the last public office position Duke held. This also doesnt' change the fact that you are excusing Janeane Garofalo allen, don't think I forgot that.
P Allen "Yet a Republican like Alan Keyes can't win "Dog Catcher" with an "(R)" behind his name....why?"
Because Allen Keyes ran in two extremely liberals states. In Illinois, he was an emergency stand in candidate. Jack Ryan's name was still on the ballot when he ran against Obama for crying out loud. That is such a lame example allen. If Obama wouild have faced Jack Ryan, Obama would be just a nobody now. Obama has never faced any real competition. Jindal ran for Governor during a time that the people of Louisiana were sick of the corruption of the Democrats that ran Louisiana. When the black concentration of New Orleans was busted up because of Katrina, it dealt a serve blow to the democrat power base in Louisiana. No wonder Democrats and Nagin are trying to get blacks to move back to New Orleans.
P Allen "By those standards, "credibility" obviously doesn't mean much to Louisiana Republicans. I'd guess that would explain electing Bobby Jindal..."
Credibility is Bobby Jindal's beliefs and values as a conservative. His educational background destroys Obama's on several levels. JIndal is an analytical free thinking articulate person. Obama is a man that knows how to give speeches from a teleprompter.Now still can't explain the election of Obama. It wasn't because of his lack of experience. It also wasn't because of what he campaigned on. It must have had to do with him being "historic".
p allen "I didn't hear her say anything racist.
Garofalo said she believes that Blacks (and women) of the Republican party suffer from "Stockholm Syndrome." Thats her opinion. Do I believe that? No! Is the comment "self loathing" a racist comment? I don't see how..."
It's sad, but I didn't expect you to see that she was wrong. I know you all too well allen. What if the cartoonist for the New York Post thought that Obama was indeed a monkey. He wouldn't be considered a racist in your eyes right allen? Let's face it, it would just be "his opinion" right allen. Let's say that David Duke called Obama the "N" word, according to you allen Duke really isn't a racist. He would just be stating his "opinion" right allen? I guess using your version of logic, racists sentiment really doesn't exist in your eyes allen. Blind loyalty truly does cloud the judgment doesn't it allen? You are truly a piece of work.
Her thinking that blacks must hate themselves if they don't think have a monolithic mindset that is shared by her isn't racist allen?!! If a white conservative would say that he believes that blacks should still be slaves in 2009, would you consider that racist or just his opinion allen?
p allen "I've often heard Conservatives refer to the Democratic party as the "Democratic Plantation" when referencing Blacks who vote Democrat? Tell me, what can be more "self-loathing" than a plantation slave, who not only votes for his "master", but promotes and enjoys it? That being said, if you truly believe that referring to some one as self loathing is racist, then you'd have to agree that racism comes from both sides."
No I don't, lets examine the Democrat Plantation slogan
During slavery, there were the black field slaves, the black house slaves, the black share croppers and the white plantation owner.
This is how they are similar in the political sense. The field slaves are blacks that vote monolithically for hte democrat party. The black house slaves could be seen as the black politicians and members of the new civil rights activist racket. The black sharecroppers are blacks that will attack black republicans and conservatives that aren't on the liberal democrat plantation of thought. Just like when blacks escaped to head north and were brought back. The black sharecropper would do the bidding for the white slave owner. You just don't get it allen. You try to excuse Garofalo. The whole Democrat plantation reference makes sense for the reason that blacks were seen as the slaves during the time of slavery. Blacks are still seen as slaves in 2009. That is why black Republicans and conservatives are attacked racially by people like Janeane Garofalo. She doesn't respect a black person's freedom of choice. She feels that because of the color of our skin, we are SUPPOSE TO BY DEFAULT think like her. I can't ever recall white liberals calling a white Republicans or conservatives "self loathing", sellouts, uncle toms, simple sambos etc for not being Democrats. Why is that allen?
Constructive Feedback "Can anyone tell me a "mental attribute" which would allow any non-White person to expect ALL WHITE FOLKS to agree upon lest they have a mental disorder?"
I sure can't think of one constructive.
constructive feedback "I DO NOT BLAME JANEANE GAROFALO for this though!!!!!"
To a point I should pity her. She's clearly a victim of her own ignorance and confusion.
constructive feedback "You all know as well as I do that the WHITE SNARLING FOXES know what they can say about Blacks and which Blacks are off limits."
It would be interesting to see a white conservative call Obama a self loathing black man just to see the response by other liberals. I know they would get very ticked off. What would be their reaction at the time of their anger they are shown the video of Garofalo saying the same thing about Steele?
Constructive Feedback "At the same time these racist White liberal Snarling Foxes have taken a queue from Black Quasi-Socialist Progressive-Fundamentalist "Racism Chasers with regard to the fact that the BLACK CONSERVATIVE is "open game" - free to be shot down without retribution.
It just goes to show how much white liberals are cowards. Just like what Garofalo said on Keith Olbeman's show, they don't have the guts to debate a true conservative and back up their comments face to face. She is like many of them a bunch of gutless cowards.
constructive feedback "Even Black people who can't stand the sight of a Black Conservative should use the same "insight" that allowed them to see "Barack Obama" when they saw a cartoon of a chimp to see that Janeane Garofalo made a generalization about WHAT "RIGHT THINKING" BLACK PEOPLE SHOULD THINK."
Black liberals don't understand that white liberals will attack them too when they "step out of line". Last year when Prop 8 passed in California. White liberal gays racially attacked blacks for voting against it. Rosanne Barr used some racial hinged words toward blacks that voted against prop 8. Even black gays were attacked by white liberal gays. White liberals thought that because blacks voted for Obama they were automatically going to vote in favor of prop 8. Senator Joe Lieberman is a die hard liberal. The only un liberal act he committed was supporting Bush and McCain on the Iraq. Because of his actions, white liberals called him a kike, and drew him in black face standing next to Clinton.
WOW. THIS ONE IS GREAT CONVERSATIONAL PIECE. TYRONE YOU REALLY NAILED THIS ONE. These Dems. will not debate a person like you. You think logically and out of the box.
The KKK were all Democrats. Yet black Dems have died and ascended to the Demo heaven, still saying O Master, what ya want me to do next!
Right Allen!
Tyrone, without posting quotes, I'll address your responses in this manner.
First off, Keyes is a "perennial" political candidate. He has switched political parties at least 4 times, and each time leaving sour grapes. He can't win a political contest because he is an extremist and a borderline psychopath.
As for David Duke, he uses the word "nigger" probably as much as he uses the bathroom. Furthermore, for you to imply that I don't know "blatant" racism when I see it, is just plain stupid.
Constructive Feedback makes an excellent point when he says;
"Black people are too often stripped from our full human dimensions both by BLACK FOLKS AND WHITE!!"
When taken in the appropriate context, that statement sums up the "black conservative" vs. the "black liberal" dilemma. As a whole Blacks have become the "political stepchild" in American politics. At only 12% of the overall American population, we as blacks have found ourselves struggling, and being struggled over, entirely for political purposes.
Here is one part of your response that shows that you have no idea what you're talking about...
CB;"I can't ever recall white liberals calling a white Republicans or conservatives "self loathing", sellouts, uncle toms, simple sambos etc for not being Democrats. Why is that allen?
That's a very dumb ass-backwards assertion Tyrone. You really have no idea, do you?
Why would a white liberal or conservative refer to any other white person, be they liberal, socialist, libertarian, fascist, or whatever, as a "sellout" "uncle tom" or "sambo"? A white person attacking another white person for....ahhh... acting "white"?? That doesn't make much sense.
In the case of Blacks, the idea of being called a sell out or a "plantation" negro, is purely for political reasons. It's because the other side (Dem. & Repub.) wants your "black vote". The "far-right" conservatives refer to other whites who "integrate" themselves with blacks a "RACE TRAITORS"!
Conversely, selling out does have a different meaning for whites, than it does for blacks. The white conservative see's America for what it truly is. It is he who truly knows, and can actually place the term "sellout" where it actually applies.
Tyrone, I know the politically conservative ideal quite well. I've have read many books and writings by conservative writers (black and white) in my day. As with most political ideology, there are varying degrees of beliefs which can span from moderate to completely radical.
The following is what I deem to be a "middle of the road" white conservative. Please read it, as the ideals expressed are almost, if not exact as you own. Here is a white mans conservative manifesto.
Just let me know what you think.
Anonymous;"The KKK were all Democrats."
I've heard that before.
So because the KKK were Democrats, blacks shouldn't be Democrats?
Should blacks attend Nathan Bedford Forrest High school or celebrate the state holiday?
Should Jews not buy Ford Motor Company products? German products? Should Jews not vote Democratic?
Should American Indians not enter into contracts with the U.S. Government?
Should Mexicans consider Texas as part of Mexico?
The KKK were Democrats, yet that has changed. What hasn't changed is that the KKK is still all White! So, should all whites, or, are all whites members of the KKK?
Allen
1. The whig party morphed into the Democratic party. Black were Republicans because Republicans freed them. When the Dems wanted power they provided Blacks and poor whites freebies and Blacks went for it. Free welfare, stamps, housing etc. Republicans were the ones who ACTUALLY gave it to them. The man was made leave the home and the Black family went down the hill.
2. Blacks can attend any school. We celebrate Thanksgibing and St. Patrick Day's. I love holidays, time off from work and partying.
3. Hitler was a Democrat Socialist and WW2 was the result with 25000 Black Germans being castrated like Muslims did over 90 million Africans, people called apes by both.
Jews were freed by Americans of all political ideas. Jews voted for whom they wanted to. Ford weas a Dem.
American Indian are better off when the white man came and so are we/you. Slavery freed Blacks from Islamic misery but Detroit has inherited the misery. Arabs are making fools of Blacks in Detroit. Ask conyers why he attended the beheading play display on the internet.
The KKK is all white except the blacks who pass for white to let us know what is going on. Times have bnot changed. Dems used the black face to get over and destroy America with communism, which is the last step after socialism. Poor people have health, why destroy it. Why make vet. give selves medical insurance. This is what Hitler and Stalin did. Lenin was Stalin's messenger.
Ford was bamboozled by Hitler as was Chamberlain. Hitler killed 25 million people 6 million were Jews.
Anonymous, a few months ago I had said I would not reply to your post's. In response, you accused me of being "childish" or something of that nature. I'll be honest and tell you why I'm not too keen on having conversations with you.
First off, I'm what some people might refer to as Agnostic. I don't particularly subscribe to any organized faith. Yet, it is your very strange obsession with demonizing Muslims that leads me to believe that you are not a very stable individual.
However, my intent is not to insult you. For all it's worth, you might know something that I don't know. Yet, I must inform you that I can't buy into your assertions, although you do have the right to believe and say what ever you want.
Remember when she referred to Larry Elder as a "house negro?"
I damn sure do!
Jason, I like Larry Elder. Never will you see me bashing Larry Elder. He thinks on his own.
Liar, mind on fire.
Allen,
Thanks for using your freedom to speak and respond. I am not any religion, but when a religion uses its name and power to destroy all other religions my people belong to, I have a right to say so.
Detroit is a haven for Muslims who have destroyed Dr. King's birthday march/day. they are trying to stop Fr. Bostro from speaking on Detroit radio. While Blacks in Detroit know absolutely nothing it.
WHY! In Virginia Muslims teach their kids in their schools to hate all non-Muslims and that means you. Actually they are told to kill you as you are not innocent. If a storm is coming wouldnt you want to be warned.
Islam is the ONLY religion that says kill all non-muslims. Actually it is not a religion, it is Arab Imperialism. Blacks try to speak the holy language of Arabic as if it is better than Spanish. I thought God made all languages. They change their names to Abu or Malik, or Muhammad
all Arabic names. They dress like ARabs, when Islam hates Black people, dogs, and anything black.
Ishaq 243, Sura 3:106, Hadith 9:162,3. Most black join and say Asalam alaikum so nicely and Allah said no black go to paradise because he created blacks for hellfire. Muhamad gave Muslims permission to sex kids, kill, lie, incest, dead people,adultery, slavery. As your senior, it is my duty to protect my umma, the black community if they want it.
p allen"Anonymous, a few months ago I had said I would not reply to your post's. In response, you accused me of being "childish" or something of that nature. I'll be honest and tell you why I'm not too keen on having conversations with you."
What do we have here allen? It sounds like you are "offended" by the comments anonymous made about you.Let me scratch my head for a moment. I recall asking to you agree with the "racially offense" comment make by Janeane Garofalo, and you said "it's her opinion". So why are you bent out of shape, because anonymous called your remarks "childish" allen?
Its just his "opinion" right allen? ;-0 Caught the hypocrisy boomeran allen, it just came right back at you.
It's always easy for liberals to justify other liberals behavior UNTIL the shoe is on the other foot aimed right back at them.
jason "Remember when she referred to Larry Elder as a "house negro?"
She did jason. It is laughable when white liberals like Garofal have the audacity to call black republicans and conservatives "house negros". That is what she thinks about black in general. She believes that blacks are suppose to be subservient to her ideology and party affiliation. She along with other white liberals wouldn't say that to other black liberal democrats. In her eyes as well as other liberals, blacks "know their role". If she thinks that people like Larry Elders is a "house negro", I would love to ask her what is she exactly. Is Janeane a field slave or what? She wouldn't know where to begin in trying to answer that question.
anonymous "The KKK is all white except the blacks who pass for white to let us know what is going on. Times have bnot changed. Dems used the black face to get over and destroy America with communism, which is the last step after socialism. Poor people have health, why destroy it. Why make vet. give selves medical insurance. This is what Hitler and Stalin did. "
Good point. The Democrat Party have done to the black community what the Klu Klux Klan could only have dreamed of doing. They have instilled into blacks that any person that talks about self empowerment, he or she must be a "racist" republican or conservative. The blacks churches have become as corrupt as politicians. Immoral behavior is being justified in the name of "oppression". The income per capita among blacks have declined for decades as poverty for blacks percentage have increased. I know for a fact that even thought Obama is president, the self created problems among blacks are not going to change for anything. By democrats taking the father out of the family, it was just like destroying the foundation of a building or taking the queen bee from the hive.
p allen "CB;"I can't ever recall white liberals calling a white Republicans or conservatives "self loathing", sellouts, uncle toms, simple sambos etc for not being Democrats. Why is that allen?That's a very dumb ass-backwards assertion Tyrone. You really have no idea, do you?"
Thanks for the insult allen, but please try and answer the question though. Why don't white conservatives and republicans call black conservatives and republicans
sellouts
uncle toms
simple sambos
minstrels
aunt Jemimahs
tokens
house negros
self loathing etc like white liberals do allen? Just answer the question. Calm down and take a deep breath and put on your thinking cap. I notice when you get cornered with a question, you tend to get really frustrated allen. The truth does sting doesn' it?
p allen "However, my intent is not to insult you."
I know you comment was targeted to anonymous but isn't an insult "just a person's opinion".lol
p allen ""Black people are too often stripped from our full human dimensions both by BLACK FOLKS AND WHITE!!""
I actually agree with that.BLACK AND WHITE LIBERALS have stripped blacks in general of their dignity, self respect, self worth and self reliance and ambition. Liberals are always using the drum beat telling blacks that they are some how "VICTIMS" of this COUNTRY, SLAVERY, INSTITUTIONALIZE RACISM, GEORGE BUSH, REPUBLICANS, CONSERVATIVES, OPPRESSION, THE CORRECTION SYSTEM. When blacks are brainwashed into believing that everything is against them, why in the hell would they ever want to try and empower themselves? It will be very hard to find a black conservative that subscribes to the mental barriers I mentioned that liberals use against blacks.
anonymous "
Detroit is a haven for Muslims who have destroyed Dr. King's birthday march/day. they are trying to stop Fr. Bostro from speaking on Detroit radio. While Blacks in Detroit know absolutely nothing it."
Detriot like other cities have been destroyed not by conservatism but by liberalism. The state of Detriot like other major cities with majority black populations can't be blamed at the footsteps of conservatives or republicans. These cities are the liberal democrats core voting blocks. Liberalism to the black community is the equivalent of poison mixed with sugar.
p allen "
As for David Duke, he uses the word "nigger" probably as much as he uses the bathroom. Furthermore, for you to imply that I don't know "blatant" racism when I see it, is just plain stupid."
Unlike you allen, I have no problem calling an idiot and idiot. David Duke is an extreme kook. I know that Janeane Garofalo has never ever ever ever ever ever called a white republican or white conservative "self loathing" or suffered from the "Stockholm Syndrome" allen. What she said was beyon blatant and was a simple as could possibly be stated. She attacked Steele because he as a free black man thinks for himself. So keep trying to justify her statement allen, you are only digging yourself deeper in the quick sand with ever word you mutter.
CB;"So why are you bent out of shape, because anonymous called your remarks "childish" allen?"
I'm not "bent out of shape" because anonymous called my remarks childish. (And I "know" you know me better than that!)
I am bent out of shape by anonymous' strange obsession with Islamic verse, teachings, idea's, dreams....or whatever he's talking about.
First, I'd need to find out if someone is attempting to play a sick joke by posting "Anonymous" in an attempt to get their jollies by insulting Muslims.
Second, if it's not a stupid prank, is this person mentally stable enough to handle the terms I would use to describe his, or her, nonsense. (I don't care much for stalkers)
The following is really strange...
Anon:"As your senior, it is my duty to protect my umma, the black community if they want it."
I have no seniors on this site. So you must be referring to Tyrone. Only he could accept your role, because this is "HIS" blog.
Hell Tyrone, I have no problem with calling you "junior" if that's what you want! lol
In order to avoid any further misunderstandings, I think it will be best not to post further comments to Anonymous. No hard feelings I hope....
Seriously now... Tyrone did you read the "manifesto" I linked? I'd like to know your "opinion".
"The Republican Party is the "default-to" party for racist types. Ask David Duke..." (PAA)
Actually Duke's original Party of choice was the Democratic Party.
"Duke ran as a Democrat for the Louisiana Senate in 1975.
"Duke allegedly conducted a direct-mail appeal in 1987, using the identity and mailing-list of the Georgia Forsyth County Defense League without permission. League officials described it as a fund-raising scam. (It is detailed in The Rise of David Duke by Tyler Bridges.)
"In 1988, he ran in the Democratic presidential primaries. After a poor showing, he appeared on many state ballots in the general election as the nominee of the Populist Party. He received just 47,047 votes.
"In December 1988, Duke changed his political affiliation from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party."
Duke is a racial bigot, as is Quannel-X and the NOI gang.
Jared Taylor is apolitcal and is, in fact, a scholar, as is Claude Steele, an equally controversial educator.
CB;"I know you comment was targeted to anonymous but isn't an insult "just a person's opinion".lol"
If someone referred to you as, "big lips and about the same color as a turd", would that be an opinion, insult or a correct observation?
If you were to speak with Dick Cheney, and refer to his daughter as a "immoral cross dressing sodomite", would he say to you, "oh, that's just your opinion?"
If I called Rush Limbaugh a "fat over-weight pasty colored drug addicted bald headed white man", would you say "that's just Allen's opinion, Allen wouldn't insult Rush?"
So the answer "clearly" is NO! An "insult" is intentional and meant to offend.
However, it is possible that you can be "insulted" by an opinion. Such a case would entirely depend on the thickness of you skin. Still and yet, all insults are not opinions, as all opinions are not necessarily insults.
Tyrone, lately you've been saying things that tend to prove nothing!
p allen "I am bent out of shape by anonymous' strange obsession with Islamic verse, teachings, idea's, dreams....or whatever he's talking about."
Can you point out what anonymous said that was inaccurate about blacks and Islam allen? Maybe there is some true in what anonymous is saying that you don't want to come to grips with perhaps allen?
p allen "First, I'd need to find out if someone is attempting to play a sick joke by posting "Anonymous" in an attempt to get their jollies by insulting Muslims."
Muslims have already done more damage to the image of the Islamic religion that any non Muslim could have ever done allen. Thanks to the actions of Muslims, Islam is known as the religion of oppression of women, beating women, stoning women and ultimately killing women. Also Islam is now known as the religion of violence, suicide bombings, and cutting people's head off. Hell T.O has a better chance of having his image repaired then the Islamic religion in the eyes of many non Muslims.
P Allen "Hell Tyrone, I have no problem with calling you "junior" if that's what you want! lol"
I'm not junior allen. I'm just the self loathing black guy suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. lol lol lol
p allen "
In order to avoid any further misunderstandings, I think it will be best not to post further comments to Anonymous. No hard feelings I hope...."
Where is the misunderstanding allen?Anonymous does bring up some very insightful information on how Arab Muslims captured Africans to be exported in the slave trade. It is very sad that so many blacks don't know that. They were taught all about slavery in America by whites though and the other vital info left out.
p allen "
Seriously now... Tyrone did you read the "manifesto" I linked? I'd like to know your "opinion"."
I skimmed over it a few days ago, I'll read it in greater detail tomorrow and let you know.
At least Allen did read my posts.
Muslims will do the same as he suggested you do to my posts. OIC at the UN wants to stop people like me from alerting the black people about their real goal-The destruction of America. Black music, wig, braiding hair with tracks, black dogs, pictures on walls are all taboo or haram with Iaslam. I am sorry for calling you my junior, but you are. Being PC is not my cup of tea. I am black and older than you, so calling you a "son" is typical of most black mothers and you know it.
I am not crazy but trying to alert the black community as to what Islam will do and has done to them.
The KKK can only wish. The Aryans and the Muslim Brothehood have joined hands and both hate Catholics, Protestants, Jews, and blacks.
CB;"I actually agree with that.BLACK AND WHITE LIBERALS have stripped blacks in general of their dignity, self respect, self worth and self reliance and ambition"
Tyrone, LIBERALISM is not the problems with blacks!
It doesn't matter what the ideology is! Blacks are caught in the middle of the American political power struggle.
First: The Democrat/Liberal Media and President Obama
The conservative establishment is "nearly" correct when they say that the "Democratic empowered media" helped to elect Obama. Most white Democrats (aka "liberals") were upset with the status-quo Republican power machine. They were able to receive the message (via the media) that they have felt and known for some time, which is;
the rich are getting richer, and the middle-class and poor are getting poorer!!
That in itself is an "undeniable" fact! Just look at the present economy. Who would dare deny that the economy wasn't key to a "Democratic" victory....
Politicians and pundits can blame whoever they want. It's the people (the majority of them "WHITE") who spoke on Nov. 4th. The blame was place squarely on those who were in charge (Republicans and a Republican president) and therefore held responsible for their economic woes. Subsequently they spoke out with their votes.
Contrary to what you might believe, white liberals did not vote for Obama because they felt "guilt" or because he would be an "historic" figure because of his color. White people voted for Obama because they received his message. Obama echoed what they were experiencing and they ate it up! Moreover, it's true that "ALL" media outlets (including FOX News) helped forge Obama's status. How else could you explain the solid Republican defeat and so many people voting for "change?"
Second: Black Liberal vs. Black Conservative
Tyrone, did you read the essay I linked to? If not, you should because the writers sentiments are reflective of the vast majority of White Americans, and I'd say "ALL" White Conservatives.
The writer basically sums up something that I and many other blacks have long known to be true. The fact is this country was founded by white Europeans and for whites, which has been, and continues to be a fact. It is we, the black minority, that has caused and forced this country to give in to another identity.
The many European immigrants that came to the shores of America began their lives and communities by creating their own economic and social identities. Once acclimated to the "new" way of life, many left those communities to create what we now know as America.
This America is white and purely of White European design. There is no "Ebonics" in white America, merely whites who imitate it. There is no race appropriate racial "slur" for white Americans, yet white Americans are "publicly" forbidden from using their own created racial slur for blacks. There is no "plantation" political party for whites, they own the plantations...both Republican and Democratic parties.
The fact is Whites are the majority. And the way they see it (which is appropriate for a majority) all others must conform to their culture and way of life. For this reason, you as a Black conservative and/or Republican, as with any liberal Democrat who conforms to what whites see as "their own", is no more a "free-thinker" than a human raised by wolves walking on all fours...one merely "conforms".
Another fallacy is the view held by some Blacks that, because there is a Black president, things will change (for the better) for Blacks in America. Nothing could be further from the truth. Obama is a product of the system, a system to which he also had to conform.
Frankly, you might have a point that Obama is somewhat a "President of Celebrity." The whites who voted for him because he "ran" for president like Olympic runner Michael Johnson. Yet, they will insist that he "perform" like Michael Jackson, "score" like Michael Jordan, and bring home the "gold" like Michael Phelps!
Read the essay Tyrone.
I also see that JMK is defending Jared Taylor again.
JMK;Jared Taylor is apolitcal and is, in fact, a scholar"
Jared Taylor's idea's are acceptable only as what he see's as the "White European Culture" dominance. He becomes a filthy pig-headed racist when he asserts that blacks are "less intelligent" than whites and that blacks lack the capacity to live successfully in a civilized society.
Is Jared Taylor a Muslim? Islam said that about black women and men. Tabari 1:280 Allah created them STUPID! (smile)
I sincerely hope that Islam and Muslims do not get their wish-to stop free speech. Of course, black Muslims dont tell you the truth, because they dont know it.
The fact that an agnostic lives in Detroit and knows nothing about Fr. Bostros and John "reparations" Conyers and the play teaching Muslim kids how to behead non-Muslims right in Motown City! (Bare Naked Islam) Rather than ask can I prove what I say, Allen calls me crazy and accused me of calling him "childish" or something like that. Why would I call you childish, when you write so well. Your debates are great, but you seem to think my messages about Islam is unwarranted. Would you say that if you knew 2 million Africans were killed and enslaved and castrated in the last 20 years and you could have stopped it.
Why is President Obama remaining silent about the beheading of little Christian girls on their way to school. (See pictures in Indonesia) performed by Muslims to send a message to Christians that Allah said convert to Islam or die!
Honor killing has arrived in America and so is slavery. Muslims bring slaves to America, when caught the whites send them to jail while Black Muslims stand with their mouths shut. See slavery by Muslims in America.
I have agape love for my people, Americans and I dont want to see a blood bath in America. We had one civil war, and with 35 muslim terrorist camps in America teaching black men to start killing Americans, there will be another one. Men like you can stop it. Look up everything I am telling you. Pakistani Muslims are in charge of the camps. Pakistan is teaching kids that India was once a part of Pakistan until Hindus came and Christians. We know better than that lie. Islam teaches that it is a Black Man's religion, yet it degrades black people in every verse.
"Jared Taylor's idea's are acceptable only as what he see's as the "White European Culture" dominance. He becomes a filthy pig-headed racist when he asserts that blacks are "less intelligent" than whites and that blacks lack the capacity to live successfully in a civilized society." (PAA)
Jared Taylor's works chronicle ONE theme ONLY and that is the inexplicably disparate violent crime rates btw blacks and whites, a fact backed up by the FBI's uniform crime stats.
Michael Levin (white/Jewish CUNY Professor) and Leonard Jeffries (black CUNY Professor) BOTH posit that whites and blacks lack the capacity to live together successfully in a civilized society.
THAT is NOT Jared Taylor's premise.
"The Aryans and the Muslim Brothehood have joined hands and both hate Catholics, Protestants, Jews, and blacks." (Anonymous)
A cursory look at their literature shows they are BOTH using the same source books.
Anonymous;"Allen calls me crazy and accused me of calling him "childish" or something like that. Why would I call you childish..etc"
Commenting on a thread reference Tyrone's posted essay on Sunday, January 18, 2009 entitled, "A Great Man's Dream has been Hijacked, Manipulated and Distorted in the name of "Historic" Expedience" at 11:07am, Anonymous posted the following;
"P. Allen I know you take the stance: Not to comment on my comments, but as a black mother, I just chalk it up as childess play."
JMK;"Michael Levin (white/Jewish CUNY Professor) and Leonard Jeffries (black CUNY Professor) BOTH posit that whites and blacks lack the capacity to live together successfully in a civilized society.
THAT is NOT Jared Taylor's premise."
Then it must be that "White supremacy" thing that bothers me...
"To be sure, the story of Hurricane Katrina does have a moral for anyone not deliberately blind. The races are different. Blacks and whites are different. When blacks are left entirely to their own devices, Western Civilization—any kind of civilization—disappears. And in a crisis, civilization disappears overnight."
-Jared Taylor, October 2005-
“If whites permit themselves to be displaced, it is not just the high culture of the West that could disappear but such things as representative government, rule of law and freedom of speech, which whites usually get right and everyone else usually gets wrong.”
-Jared Taylor, February 2008-
Yet JMK, I do agree with "some" of Taylor's assertions. Taylor understands the tribal nature of humans in general. As human beings have love and pride for our own families and particularly our children. The same principle applies to the humanistic innate and inherent consciousness of race.
However, I must disagree with the premise that Blacks are somehow unable to live in and provide for a constructive society. This is where he neglects the cause's of the downfall of Black society in America. The number one cause (in the past 60+ of The American Negro) is INTEGRATION! Be it forced, compensatory or simply welcomed.
Left to our own devices, in the early part of the 20th century, movements such as The Great Migration and the Halem Renaissance led to the development of thriving African-American communities. In the southwest Greenwood, Oklahoma (Black Wall Street) was home to several Black millionaires.
Yet it was not "integration" per-se, that led to the destruction of these institutions. It was the violence perpetrated by whites upon blacks, which moreover, helped to destroy any possibility of future generations prospering from the efforts of their predecessors.
For blacks in America it has been a bumpy ride. First slavery because you're not free, then freedom because you should be free, then setbacks for being free, then Jim Crow laws because he says you shouldn't be free, then segregation because you're equal but free, then discrimination make's you feel like you're not free, then integration to make you feel like you're free. Now you're free but you're still segregated. The problems in the Black community are for the most part are systemic.
So I can understand why Taylor is "afraid" of whites becoming a minority in America. Fear can cause even the brightest individuals to think and say irrational things.
anon "I am not crazy but trying to alert the black community as to what Islam will do and has done to them."
You can give allen a set of eyes, but he will refuse to look through them.
p allen" Tyrone, LIBERALISM is not the problems with blacks!"
Welfare as basically destroyed blacks in America. It was because of the liberal program of welfare that the father had to leave the house in order for the mother and children to receive benefits. Look at the program "WIC" WOMEN AND INFANT CHILDREN. Notice it doesn't say anything about MALE allen. Back in the day out of wedlock births was looked upon in a negative fashion. That isn't the case anymore especially in the black community. Hell the movie "My baby's daddy" was made, because it has become "mainstream". The glorification of the hip hop culture is another example of the poison of liberalism towards blacks. You tried to make a point a few weeks ago allen about Michael Steele pandering for the hip hop vote. What is conservative or moral about hip hop allen? The cursing, the glorification of treating women like dirt, the glorification of selling poison in the black community and the glorification of black on black homicide. Once again you can't face the facts allen. Liberals will never admit that the problem facing blacks is due to the ideology they follow. Liberalism and morality are completely incompatible. Keep denying allen, you are only fooling yourself as usual. Look around your environment in Detroit allen. There is nothing conservative about it, yet look at it's condition. The same can be said for Baltimore, Oakland, Richmond, Memphis, Chicago, South Central LA, Philadelphia, Miami, New Orleans, Washington DC. These aren't conservative cities. They aren't run by conservatives, yet look at them. The HIV rate in Washington D.C is now at 3%. This didn't happen because of tainted blood transfusions allen. You mocked Sarah Palin on her thoughts about sex, her thoughts are conservative. Look at the HIV rate in DC, that is due to liberal behavior and nothing else. You want to dump on Bristol Palin allen? It is a proven fact that a child has a better chance of being successful having both parents in the household. What is the income per capita of black women that have children and are unwed allen?
CB;anon "I am not crazy but trying to alert the black community as to what Islam will do and has done to them."
You can give allen a set of eyes, but he will refuse to look through them."
No I've heard it all. You believe that "ISLAM" is the problem within the Black community??? Since I've been posting on this site, I have never read anything so STOOOOPID!
Syndicated columnist, economist and college professor, Walter E. Williams said this in a August 2007 essay he wrote for World Net Daily;
"Example: A number of years ago, black Muslims began to patrol Mayfair, a drug-infested, gang-ridden Washington, D.C., housing project. The gangs and drug lords left, probably because the black Muslims didn't feel obliged to issue Miranda warnings. Black men should set up neighborhood patrols, armed if necessary, and if politicians and police don't like it, they should do their jobs. No one should have to live in daily fear for their lives and safety."
Even though I don't subscribe to the religion, the "FACT" is American Black Muslims have crime rates, out of wedlock birth, poverty and immoral behavior, at dramatically lower rates (and in some circles non-existent) than the overall black population.
mOST OF THE BAD GUYS WHO WERE RUN OUT OF THE PROJECTS WERE mUSLIMS FROM JAIL.
Arabs cut off hand and feet and heads but they still have crime.
What if Muslims (Black ones) stopped gangs? The gangs were their home boys. The tougher gangs stopped the weaker ones.
Sorry Allen, I know because I lived in one and saw this so-called great thing. I didnt have to read about it, I lived it. FortunaTEly my parents and I had two, taught me to read and stay out of trouble and keep my dress down and told the boys to keep their panys zipped. Once most black homes had two parents, even Detroit and DC. When the liberals came along with Communism, all of that went down the drain and the Black family went with goodness. When Black churches really taught the Bible the right way, our communities were in tact. Our teachers lived next to the maid and all helped each other. Once we took care of each other and the Jews gave us jobs. Now the foreign Muslims are telling Blacks that Islam is the Way of life, when it was Islam who sold all Black Americans as slaves to Europe, based on the Pact Of Omar.
Africans are telling Blacks that Islam is not right and are leaving Islam in droves.
Those same type Muslims who dreove the gangs out of the projects are no telling other blacks they cannot tell the truth about Islam.
Farrahkan was put out of Islam in 1998 along with all of the NOI! Why didnt he tell?
Dude, anybody who would say such evil garbage that somebody is a "self-hating black man" for not following their lead, I'm not sticking up for Meghan McCain but Janeane Garafalo is FAR worse and FAR dumber even.
This is somebody who is seriously screwed up in the head.
I hate Meghan McCain and think she's a liberal idiot, it's just Garofalo or anybody who would say that is the worst of the worst.
to put it more bluntly,anti racism is code for anti white genecide.you can be as smart and anilitcal all you want it,s still the same as above.
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