Today is the day for Notre Dame to dance with the devil.
I wonder why the news outlet had to mention that Alan Keyes is a Republican? Did they believe by them mentioning it, it would help to discredit what he is doing? I notice they didn't say Democrat President Barack Obama will be appearing at Notre Dame today. Most news outlets will go out of their way to not report a story that will make liberals look bad. If the story is too big to be ignored, they will only report it in an effort to discredit the non liberals in the story. I guess Keyes and the pro lifers are being portrayed as nothing more then a bunch of "right wing extremists" for standing up for their principals. The repercussions of Obama's visit will be felt at Notre Dame long after this day. The Vatican has remained silent on the issue. Since Pope Benedict is the leader of the Catholic Church, he should weigh in on this issue.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 9:16 AM
29 Comments:
Alan Keyes isn't a Republican. He left the GOP last year, which the media outlet would know if they actually did their homework.
This protest "reeks" of partisan politics. However, unlike the "Tea-Party" party movement (of which I believe most of those involved were honest in their intent), most of the opposition involved with this protest are politically motivated.
Tyrone, in a previous post you stated;
"This really isn't about Obama allen. It's about Notre Dames deception to the Christianity and the Catholic Church's doctrine. No true church or religious organization would honor Obama for anything."
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If the motivation for denying the President an honorary degree is based on his views being incompatible with Christian doctrine, then no one who has views or beliefs contrary to Christian doctrine should receive honorary degrees from the university.
This year Notre Dame will confer the same honorary degree upon Jewish activist and South African community advocate Helen Lieberman.
What can be more contrary to "Christianity and the Catholic Church's doctrine" than the belief that Jesus as deity, or the son of God, is incompatible with Judaism???
Thus, why isn't there an out-cry against a "Christian" university bestowing an honor upon a Jew?
In the video you posted earlier, Mr. Voris advocated the stance that the President Obama should be barred from even speaking at the commencement solely upon Christian principles. A few months ago Nobel Peace Laureate Shirin Ebadi spoke at Notre Dame. As a Muslim her religious views are in total contradiction with that of the Christian faith. Should she have been allowed to speak? Where was Mr. Voris' Christian principles then???
You say that, "Christianity and the Catholic Church's doctrine", is the crux of your argument. Thus, you should hold the same ideal for anyone who has views or beliefs contrary to Christian doctrine. This would effectively exclude "ALL" other religions!!! Frankly, I don't think you nor most of those who are protesting think that only Christians should be allowed to speak at Notre Dame.
First of all I do believe Notre Dame sold out in the name of image over substance shame on that university! I would recommend every God-fearing man, woman and child have nothing to do with this phony Christian University!
Shay "Alan Keyes isn't a Republican. He left the GOP last year, which the media outlet would know if they actually did their homework."
The media doing their homework? That is a radical approach to journalism in our country Shay. To bad they will never do it though. I can't blame Keyes for bolting from the GOP. Many conservatives are doing it these days in droves.
p allen "his protest "reeks" of partisan politics. However, unlike the "Tea-Party" party movement (of which I believe most of those involved were honest in their intent), most of the opposition involved with this protest are politically motivated."
Everything "reeks" of partisan politics to you allen, except when its liberals doing it. Isn't that right allen?;-) Everything liberals do is as pure as the driven snow with you allen I'm sure. This may come as a shock to allen, but everything conservatives do isn't a vast political conspiracy. Social conservatives do champion their causes of being pro life.
P Allen "If the motivation for denying the President an honorary degree is based on his views being incompatible with Christian doctrine, then no one who has views or beliefs contrary to Christian doctrine should receive honorary degrees from the university."
I agree that they shouldn't allen. Notre Dame is a "CATHOLIC" university. The bylaws of Notre Dame are suppose to be in sync is the core teachings of the Vatican. You do know allen that a so called Catholic that believes in abortion is not suppose to be served communion right? The second largest anti abortion religious group next to Evangelicals are Catholics. It is what it is allen.
p allen "
This year Notre Dame will confer the same honorary degree upon Jewish activist and South African community advocate Helen Lieberman.
What can be more contrary to "Christianity and the Catholic Church's doctrine" than the belief that Jesus as deity, or the son of God, is incompatible with Judaism???"
You really like to play "devil's advocate" a lot. To bad you're not good at it.lol This where you come up short. Catholics aren't closed minded to members of other religions allen. You are trying to compare
"religious tolerance for other faiths" vs "religious tolerance towards an immoral sin".
It isn't going to fly allen. Jews and Christians share common ground on many social issues, and abortion is one of them allen. Some times in life are simply a matter of "right vs wrong" allen. Keep trying to find that grey area if you can.
P Allen "Thus, why isn't there an out-cry against a "Christian" university bestowing an honor upon a Jew? "
Notre Dam is Catholic in name only. This may come as the biggest shock in you're life allen, but Jesus Christ is a "jew". :-0
I sure hope you weren't standing up when I told you this. Being of a different religion isn't a non starter with me allen. The torture and killing of innocent unborn life kind has a higher status on my moral radar.
p allen "You say that, "Christianity and the Catholic Church's doctrine", is the crux of your argument. Thus, you should hold the same ideal for anyone who has views or beliefs contrary to Christian doctrine. This would effectively exclude "ALL" other religions!!! Frankly, I don't think you nor most of those who are protesting think that only Christians should be allowed to speak at Notre Dame."
You trying to compare religious diversity vs abortion is as weak as when gays try to compare gay marriage vs black civil rights allen. It is still fun to watch.
Chilerkle "First of all I do believe Notre Dame sold out in the name of image over substance shame on that university! I would recommend every God-fearing man, woman and child have nothing to do with this phony Christian University!"
Many of the alumni were opposed to Obama's presence Chilerkle. It was the graduating class of fake Catholics that supported Obama being there. They also cheered for the guy. Georgetown and Notre Dame both have become shells of their former glory as religious institutions of higher learning.
For better or worse, abortion remains a political issue.
Rasmussen reports that for the first time since polls were taken, a majority of Americans (51%) poll as pro-life. 51% of Americans oppose abortion, 42% support it, with 7% undecided.
As far as Notre Dame goes, the Catholic students there have every right to protest the honarary degree conferred by Notre Dame (The University of Arizona did not confer such a degree when President Obama visited). Many of them see that as a Catholic institution endorsing Obama's pro-abortion views.
I'm not at all religious and I have my own compromise on that issue based on pragamatism - I support abortion on demand UNTIL the fetus is viable outside the womb.
That belief is predicated on my view that one of the worst possible fates is to be born into an unloving, uncaring and/or dysfunctional environment. It is tempered by the rational fact that a fully developped child that can survive outside the womb is obviously a full human being, with all the rights any human innately has.
CB;"Jews and Christians share common ground on many social issues, and abortion is one of them allen. Some times in life are simply a matter of "right vs wrong" allen. Keep trying to find that grey area if you can."
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Common ground? Israel defines itself as a "Jewish" state. Yet abortion is legal when a woman is younger than seventeen, pregnancy was conceived under illegal circumstances, the fetus may have a physical or mental birth defect or pregnancy may put the woman's life in risk, or damage her physically or mentally. Circumstances such as those are far from "gray", and are very clear and "liberal" in appearance...
CB;"I agree that they shouldn't allen. Notre Dame is a "CATHOLIC" university."
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You agree that they shouldn't honor non-Catholics because it's a "CATHOLIC" university, yet you say; "Notre Dam is Catholic in name only."
. So, if the university is Catholic in "name-only", why should Catholics be concerned about whatever or whoever they confer honors to????
CB;"Everything "reeks" of partisan politics to you allen, except when its liberals doing it. Isn't that right allen?;-) Everything liberals do is as pure as the driven snow with you allen I'm sure.
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DUUUHHH? Tyrone, ABORTION is a partisan political issue...is it not??? Everything "POLITICIANS" do are done according to political PARTY... Very few politician have no party affiliation. Even those few who do drop their party affiliation, do so after being elected.
Tyrone abortion has demoralized the world. When Hitler experimented on aborting babies during WW2 it was so bad. Now that American socialist, Nazi, Communist have done the same thing in the name of pro-choice it is just fine.
Islam believes in killing of babies in the forst 3 months. Now if the first three months is killed, there will never be a 2,3 trimester.
This is what people are upset about. This is why the Catholic Church was blamed for Hitler in WW2. The Pope failed to do what he was supposed to do, expose Hitler's murder and excummunicate him. Hitler saw the Pope as weak and continued on killing 25 million Germans and sterilizing 25000 Rhineland Bastard (Black Germans).. Because no one said a word and the papers were too afraid to say a word like in America, Hitler rose to power Jews and Black Nazi paid the price. Catholics have lost their way. Protestants like Luther hated Judaism and wrote some evil, vile mesages about them as a priest.
The issue is about abortion, and abortion is murder. Life begin at conception. A sperm is not another life but the life of the male. Am egg is just an egg without the sperm.
To make women feel less guilty of murder, science has determined that the 1st trimester is not life, but a mass of tissue. Funny how this mass of tissue became Allen or Tyrone or Obama.
Tom calls him Comrade Jenkins!
There is a big difference between a speaker coming to UND for a lecture, as students could attend or not, and BO speaking at a graduation. Not exactly a choice students would want to make after years of study to earn a degree.
The Catholic church stands for nothing is the lesson to learn. The irony is that the liberals do everything in their power to make Catholics look bad, and we saw the cheering students agreeing that the church has become a useless shell. Some reports say UND has lost 14 million dollars from contributions. Perhaps if the alumni stand firm, the BOD will see the error of their ways. Otherwise, Notre Dame will continue down the path of the other useless colleges’ embracing Marxism.
Stanman
PAA: You agree that they shouldn't honor non-Catholics because it's a "CATHOLIC" university, yet you say; "Notre Dam is Catholic in name only."So, if the university is Catholic in "name-only", why should Catholics be concerned about whatever or whoever they confer honors to????
Me: It is Catholic in name because of its leadership, not its students and alumni who wants it to be accountable to its claim to being a Catholic school. Either it is or it is not. It cannot be both.
And CB is right- Roman Catholicism, as well as Eastern Orthodoxy, Anglo-Catholicism, and conservative Lutheranism pracice CLOSED communion.
What Notre Dame did in inviting anyone that goes against core Catholic teachings (not just Obama) violates its mission.
That is why I find Obama to be the Devil incarnate. He believes a child is a punishment. That baby killing bastard! Well all I can say about Obama is good thing his mother didn't think so or he wouldn't be here either.
If Abortion wasn't legal or possible in the 60s that doesn't mean she wouldn't have found a way to dispose of baby Obama.
With all the medical breakthroughs such as C-section which has saved the lives of mothers and their children. Without C-section many mothers would die or would have to abort to save themselves. Either scenario is horrendous because lives would have been tragically lost.
Tyrone, (a.k.a. Conservative Brutha)--
Came across your blog while listening to this morning's "Tom Marr" broadcast. I'm a fellow mixed ethnicity Black conservative, independent thinking, a political atheist and staunch supporter of the
Constitution. I strongly believe, thanks to the do-gooders of liberalism, we've rampant fatherlessness in the Black community, a thug-like mentality the guilty white liberal encourage on one face, snicker at behind their backs and closed doors, and have NO compuncture in making them their personal minstrel shows as the cash rolls in.
Even with the election of the current occupant in the WH--I won't call him President until he proves his eligibility, but that's another post for another day--the rabid left STILL aren't happy. They want complete, absolute, air-tight and across-the-board control over every aspect of our lives. It's not enough they're in my life, your life and everyone else's lives reading this every day. It's not enough the radical, rabid Islams want us dead for the lifestyles THEY endorse, and yet are blind to, the rabid Islamists ire of said lifestyles. It's not enough they want to tax cigarette butts in San Fran"sicko" because the city's run out of money and the smokers aren't taxed enough. No. Control is the watchword.
And too many Blacks are too busy loving their cash money and pimped rides to know they're being played and puppeted. Just like Maobama, "Dear Leader," is.
And yet, if you mention the things the far left want to keep most Blacks "on the plantation" for--and yet, shrill and screech that's what the far right do--you're called "Uncle Tom" like I'm called "Aunt Jemimah" for it. Who from? The same group of rabid leftists who SWORE they're all for TOLERANCE, INCLUSIVITY and ACCEPTANCE.
Sure they are -- if you think as they do.
Funny, too: The ones who scream the loudest about what they oppose, usually are the biggest oppositioners of them all.
Would you add me to the list of blogs you follow, please? My address is http:www.3qmwwriter.blogspot.com. I'm following and follow Michelle Malkin, as well.
Thanks! Keep up the FINE work here!
~Missye K. Clarke
"That is why I find Obama to be the Devil incarnate."
That is a bit much. :)
We are to still pray for those in authorities.
There was a ruler in the OT renown for child sacrifices, but by the grace of God he repented. His name was Manasseh.
The school should be called Notre Shame instead. It sure lived up to that title.
Thuyen Tran "What Notre Dame did in inviting anyone that goes against core Catholic teachings (not just Obama) violates its mission."
It is amazing that allen couldn't understand something that simple.
The ACLU, the liberal press, and Hollywood have done their best to bankrupt the Catholic Church. The pedophile cases will never end. Odd, there was a small article noting that school teachers have molested more young people than priests have, and yet there is no outrage from liberal quarters.
So, Notre Dame invites the person most likely to hold back their abortion progress into the college, to schmooze the already Marxist indoctrinated students. A student commented that ND is full of liberal instructors, and they were the ones ginning up the students to welcome Obama.
Religious integrity is a thing of the past. A friend from Sweden told me, “For Socialism to succeed, the churches, one way or another, must lose influence,” and he added he knew that from experience.
Stanman
Thuyen Tran;"What Notre Dame did in inviting anyone that goes against core Catholic teachings (not just Obama) violates its mission."
It is amazing that allen couldn't understand something that simple..
I understand that statement completely!! As a matter of fact, I said it FIRST!!
I said;"You say that, "Christianity and the Catholic Church's doctrine", is the crux of your argument. Thus, you should hold the same ideal for anyone who has views or beliefs contrary to Christian doctrine. This would effectively exclude "ALL" other religions!!!.
Thus, as Tran reiterates, "inviting anyone that goes against core Catholic teachings (not just Obama) violates its mission."!!!! That means "ANYONE" and "ALL OTHER RELIGIONS"!!!
Stanman;"Odd, there was a small article noting that school teachers have molested more young people than priests have, and yet there is no outrage from liberal quarters.".
I really don't know if that is true. Yet, there are several major differences between molestation by a school teacher, and pedophile priests.
School teachers are often accused of molesting someone of the opposite sex. Whereas over 90% of the accused priests were accused of molesting young boys. In every case if a school teacher is found guilty of molestation he or she is "FIRED" from the job. Pedophile priests, in most cases, were "TRANSFERRED" to other parishes. In most cases a convicted school teacher is sent to jail. Many priests were able to escape prosecution.
“In every case if a school teacher is found guilty of molestation he or she is "FIRED" from the job.”
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You are absolutely wrong about that. A forty year old teacher was accused of molesting an eleven old girl. The teacher’s union came out in full destroy force, and the young girl was accused of being a diva, and a liar. The child and her parents completely broke down under the accusations. She was moved to another school.
However the scumbag teacher molested another child, and was FINALLY moved into administration. How good was that for two young girls? Their distress could be equal to any distress a priest caused. No one can know that. When does that pedophile age difference come into the case? The teacher was forty, the child eleven. I will research if pedophiles mostly abuse little boys, I think that sounds more about gays than pedophiles.
M.K. Clarke;"the guilty white liberal encourage on one face, snicker at behind their backs and closed doors, and have NO compuncture in making them their personal minstrel shows as the cash rolls in.".
That is a good one... You know something Clarke...? I here that claim from both sides.
Conservative blacks claim liberal whites snicker behind the backs of black liberals. Liberal blacks claim that conservative whites snicker behind the backs of conservative blacks.
All the while blacks, on both sides, remain divided by throwing these accusations back and forth. Have you ever stopped to think that BOTH sides (black liberals and conservatives) could be "right" in their assertions?
The truth is that "Whites" in general, conservative and liberal, frown upon "fatherlessness in the Black community, a thug-like mentality" and all of the other negative aspects of the Black community.
From the lower middle-class White, to the richest, you won't see them clambering put their kids in majority black schools, moving into majority black neighborhoods, nor encouraging their kids or kind to become more "diverse" in their social, cultural or dating/marriage habits. Particularly in marriage, where a study in 2007 showed that 4.6% of all married Blacks were married to a White partner, and 0.4% of all Whites were married to a Black partner.
That statistic shows that Blacks are almost "5 times" more likely to accept whites culturally, socially and even politically, that whites would accept blacks.
Thus, it really doesn't matter if the snickering goes on from either liberal whites or conservative whites. What we as blacks need to do is address the problems ON OUR OWN! Jewish Americans do it. Asian Americans do it. Arab Americans do it.
Forget about the white liberals, forget about white conservatives, because EVERY OTHER RACE and ethnicity shames us behind closed doors!!!!
Stanman;"You are absolutely wrong about that. A forty year old teacher was accused of molesting an eleven old girl. The teacher’s union came out in full destroy force, and the young girl was accused of being a diva, and a liar.".
I said;“In every case if a school teacher is found guilty of molestation he or she is "FIRED" from the job.”.
Link to a story where a teacher was found "GUILTY" of molesting a child and was not fired from the job. You do know what I mean by "FOUND GUILTY", don't you? Show me where this has occurred and I'll concede to your argument...
I would never protect nor show any compassion for a child molester. If a teachers union had anything to do with protecting a child molester, in my opinion, they would be just as heinous as the molester himself.
-New York Post Exposes High Rate Of Teacher/Student Molestations-
In a story not widely publicized in the mainstream press about the secret epidemic of homosexual child abuse cases that go unreported in New York City’s public schools.
The report, “Secret Shame Of Our Schools: Sexual Abuse Of Students Runs Rampant,” by Douglas Montero ..snip..
[Sixty percent of those accused of sexual abuse were transferred to desk jobs inside the school district.] Forty percent of those transferred suspects were repeat sex offenders.
[In nearly 16% of the cases, school officials delayed or tried to cover up the sexual molestations.]
[snip] it appears that at least one child is sexually abused each day by a school employee—and
http://www.traditionalvalues.org/urban/one.php
Information here about schools moving teachers from place to place.
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-Accused of sexual abuse, but back in the classroom-
LA Times
Excerpts:
A jury late last year ordered the Los Angeles Unified School District to pay nearly $1.6 million to the families of three girls molested by Ricardo Guevara, who is now serving 15 years in prison for lewd acts with a child.
[But there was something the jury -- and the public -- was never told:] This was the [third set of accusations] that Guevara had molested students. [Twice before,] when law enforcement officials had decided they lacked the evidence to win a criminal conviction, [L.A. Unified officials had quietly put him back in the classroom.]
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-teachers10-2009may10,0,1620156,full.story
Stanman
Let me add there are 1543 Comments to the LA Times story. If you read even a few you will sense the frustration felt by the posters. It seems clear to me, we need to wake up about a lot of things.
Stanman
p allen "Conservative blacks claim liberal whites snicker behind the backs of black liberals. Liberal blacks claim that conservative whites snicker behind the backs of conservative blacks."
Let a black liberal start embracing conservative view points and see how fast he or she is attacked. Juan Williams is a well known black liberals that works for National Public Radio and is a contributor for Fox News. I've seen the vicious names Juan as been called on the Daily Kos and the Huffington Post.
http://www.newsgroper.com/bill-oreilly/2007/10/05/juan-williams-is-a-sad-lonely-negro
http://granby01033.blogspot.com/2007/09/oreally-juan-williams-uncle-tom.html
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/6/530927/-Juan-Williams,-a-21st-Century-Uncle-Tom-some-say
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/9/29/163510/595
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080429222302AAI2zbV
Need I truly say more?
Senator Joe Lieberman is an ultra liberal Jewish Democrat. He only disagreed with Democrats on one issue being the IRAQ War. This is what he got for him daring to go against the grain on one isssue.
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/joe_lieberman_blackfaced_jane_hamscher_redfaced/
Explain everything I posted and said away allen. I want to hear you're defense of this.
p allen "All the while blacks, on both sides, remain divided by throwing these accusations back and forth. Have you ever stopped to think that BOTH sides (black liberals and conservatives) could be "right" in their assertions?"
I've noticed when you can't defend you're claims allen, you have a tendency of then saying "both sides" do it. I'm very alert allen as you should know. :-) That is a poor defense counter by the way, I'd just thought I should let you know.
p allen "The truth is that "Whites" in general, conservative and liberal, frown upon "fatherlessness in the Black community, a thug-like mentality" and all of the other negative aspects of the Black community."
I need a hysterical laugh right now. This is the "my baby's daddy and mother" culture allen. Liberals do not frown upon out of wedlock births, it is just a way of life for them.Liberals believe in a "loose" society, and that is one of the aspects to it. The whole fatherless culture within the black community started was started by liberals, especially through the government's actions. Bill Cosby comes out and says that blacks need to stop having children out of wedlock and to get their education first. For his words of wisdom, he is attacked by black liberals by being called a "sellout". It's conservatives that have supported Cosby's message, and they have been called "racists" for doing so. I can't explain that logic. If a black liberals would dare say anything about out of wedlock births within the black community, he or she will be called an Uncle Tom or an Aunt Jemima.
It is as simple as that.
p allen "Thus, it really doesn't matter if the snickering goes on from either liberal whites or conservative whites. What we as blacks need to do is address the problems ON OUR OWN! Jewish Americans do it. Asian Americans do it. Arab Americans do"
Are you joking allen? It definitely does matter. Black conservatives have been screaming what the problems in the black community are for well over 40 years now. Most blacks only want to accept the liberal ideology way of living their lives, and their communities and families are the price they paid for it.The inner cities aren't run by conservatives, so the schools, taxes, and crime can't be blamed on them. You being from Detriot allen should know what I'm talking abot, but you are blind to the liberal sweet poison that has destroyed that city. My city of Baltimore is no exception either. Why is it that blacks that are conservative in nature don't suffer from the problems blacks that embrace liberalism seem to suffer from allen? Liberals want to say that black conservatives ware small in numbers, Well those numbers are nonexistent when it comes down to prison, unemployment, drug addiction and quality of life in general.
Stanman, you said that I was "absolutely wrong" in stating a teacher found "GUILTY" of molestation is fired from the job. I asked to to show where it has in fact occurred. You posted situations where teachers were "ACCUSED." You did not address my statement as it was stated, nor did you provide evidence of your assertion.
Please mind you that I do not condone any act of child molestation perpetrated by "any one", including school teachers and priest's. However, my intent was simply to show a contrast between the two.... nothing more, nothing less...
Each statement I made, are indeed statements of "FACT." If you did not understand what I meant by "GUILTY", perhaps you should have asked. In the future please read everything before writing anything....
CB;"Explain everything I posted and said away allen. I want to hear you're defense of this.".
I can't "explain it away", nor do I agree with the characterizations or condone such attacks on Juan Williams.
Yet again, these type of silly depictions and attacks comes from "BOTH SIDES"!!! Just last year "YOU" posted a depiction of Oprah Winfrey in a KKK outfit. I, like many others, found the characterization to be in very poor taste.
The problem Tyrone is not that you're naive, it's that you're a consummate conservative hack. You know darn well that type of rhetoric comes from both sides of the aisle. You just choose to ignore right-wing rhetoric for the sake of not appearing moderate.
Last year political syndicated cartoonist Gordon Campbell depicted Colin Powell as Benedict Arnold in "black face" because of Powell's endorsement of President Obama.
The fact is as I have constantly stated here. Blacks are being "played" politically by BOTH SIDES!!
Colin Powell is a prime example. As a Republican he was considered a "darling" and a possible presidential hopeful by every faction, from the moderate Republican to the neo-con. Conversely, some Black liberals referred to him as a "uncle tom" and a "traitor to his race" because of his "CHOICE" to join the Republican party.
Then came his obvious disillusionment with the Bush administration and his personal decision (aka, "CHOICE") to endorse Barak Obama for president. Lo' and behold, where are those attacks coming from now??
What's worse is that de-facto GOP Chairman/pundit/entertainer, Rush Limbaugh accused Powell of being a "racist" for his endorsement of Obama. What was even more ridiculous was that some Black Republican pundits (as well as a slew of Whites) agreed with him!
Thus, Powell, as a politician, has suffered accusations assertions and racial epithets from "BOTH SIDES" dependent upon the side he "appeared" to be on. Isn't that in itself enough to allow you to see how a ideal can in effect be manipulated by both parties?
CB;"Why is it that blacks that are conservative in nature don't suffer from the problems blacks that embrace liberalism seem to suffer from allen?".
Is Oprah conservative Tyrone? Is Colin Powell conservative? What about Dr. Rice? Is Barack Obama conservative? Is Andrew Young? What about P. Anthony Allen? Shall I go on naming so-called "Liberal" successful blacks who are not "suffering" from the problems that effect most blacks??
And what makes you think that "conservatism" would cure all the problems in the black community? Do you think that conservatives don't rob banks? Conservatives don't steal? Conservatives don't have sex out of wedlock? Conservatives cant be homosexual? Conservatives don't lie? Are you now being "naive" Tyrone?? Do you think conservatism is a penicillin "cure-all" miracle cure??? Negro PUH-LEEEEZZZZZZ!
Tyrone, conservatism is not a "way of life", it's an ideology, a political philosophy.
On the contrary, I will compare your statement of Blacks embracing conservatism, to how Blacks embraced Christianity. Nearly 80% of Blacks practice some form of Christianity. Such a high number of Blacks embracing a "religious way of life" and still a large section of the community is in shambles. So, what makes you think "conservatism" would fare much better?
The fact is, by labeling ourselves as liberals or conservatives effectively continues the divide. In 2009 most if not all blacks of every political persuasion admits that the problems in our communities are indeed "our own", and that "we" must solve the problems. Yet we continue to see the destruction of our families, neighborhoods and culture. The fact is "we" allowed it to happen, and we continue to allow it to happen. The reason is simple... WE DON'T WORK TOGETHER TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS, AND WE BLAME EACH OTHER.
Liberal and Conservative labels are not conducive to curing the problems among Black Americans. The only way to cure the problems is a concerted effort of all Blacks politically, socially and economically. If that does not occur, expect our situation to become worse.
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