Why is it that conservative women bring out the vileness in liberals?
In October of 2008, the "comedian" Sandra Bernhard said that "If Sarah Palin ever comes to New York, she would be gang rapped by her big black brothers".
Progressives didn't find anything wrong with what Sandra said, they claimed it was just a joke. The NAACP had nothing to say. The feminist organizations went into hiding. A women's shelter where Sandra Bernhard was schedule to do a show canceled her appearance when her comments were aired. I am not a fan of progressive ideology. Even with that said, I don't advocate the raping of women who are progressives. I wouldn't even joke about something like that. It isn't even funny in the least. Progressives on the other hand don't share the same moral mindset as normal, decent minded people do. Bill Maher is a piece of crap, the people he had on his panel the other day made him look like a saint. Before you watch this video, remember that Michelle Bachmann is a wife, a mother and a grandmother. Parental Advisory is advised for vile and crude language.
This was beyond vile. I wonder will Keith Ellison speak out on this? I heard the audience laughing at this, but where exactly is the humor factor in this? I know progressives want to claim conservatives are the true "hate mongers" when it comes to the treatment of women. Does this sound like "peace, love and tolerance" from a liberal towards a woman who has an opposing point of view? Parental Advisory is advised for use of strong language.
Progressives didn't find anything wrong with what Sandra said, they claimed it was just a joke. The NAACP had nothing to say. The feminist organizations went into hiding. A women's shelter where Sandra Bernhard was schedule to do a show canceled her appearance when her comments were aired. I am not a fan of progressive ideology. Even with that said, I don't advocate the raping of women who are progressives. I wouldn't even joke about something like that. It isn't even funny in the least. Progressives on the other hand don't share the same moral mindset as normal, decent minded people do. Bill Maher is a piece of crap, the people he had on his panel the other day made him look like a saint. Before you watch this video, remember that Michelle Bachmann is a wife, a mother and a grandmother. Parental Advisory is advised for vile and crude language.
This was beyond vile. I wonder will Keith Ellison speak out on this? I heard the audience laughing at this, but where exactly is the humor factor in this? I know progressives want to claim conservatives are the true "hate mongers" when it comes to the treatment of women. Does this sound like "peace, love and tolerance" from a liberal towards a woman who has an opposing point of view? Parental Advisory is advised for use of strong language.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 2:47 PM
29 Comments:
CB;"Michelle Bachmann is a wife, a mother and a grandmother".
Yet no story on your blog about Michelle Obama being compared to a Gorilla.
No essay about her being called a Female Dog.
What about Tammy Bruce's Trash in the White House comment?
Just to name a few...
It comes from both sides Tyrone....Get used to it...
Sounds like she got gang-rapped w/o ever even setting foot in New York. ;)
Tell me what is wrong here?
Sandra Berhard makes a joke about Sarah Palin would get gang raped by bunch of black men if she were to come to New York.
The joke itself is NOT funny!
What surprises me, the feminists, the NAACP, along with Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson does not go after her.
However, they found the time to go after Don Imus, whom years ago made joke(s) about the Rutgers women's basketball team who won the NAACP Finals years ago by calling them "nappy-headed 'ho's", which got him fired.
Only his joke(s) had nothing to do with violence toward women.
How is it that when a person makes a derogatory joke about minorities, especially name calling, that person gets punished?
But when it comes to jokes about violence toward women and the idea assailant is a minority, nothing is done about it.
It doesn't have to be a joke, I hear that coming from hip-hop and rap music. By the way, I am not a fan of hip-hop.
I swear people are so messed up!
Why is it that conservative women bring out the vileness in liberals?
Women who don't hold progressive values aren't real (un-sexed) women, just like African-Americans who don't want to live on a government plantation aren't "authentically black".
Speedy;"just like African-Americans who don't want to live on a government plantation aren't "authentically black".
I'm aware that the term has been thrown around about President Obama. I didn't agree with it then, and certainly don't think it should be callously used now. Still, you have right-wingers like Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association?. who now believes he get's to say who's "authentically black", and who's not.
Herman Cain wants to run for president as the "authentically black" candidate? The sad part is he thinks it's a funny thing to say! Makes me wonder if he would have sighed the FAMILY pledge that implied Blacks were better off as slaves...
Doesn't it also make you wonder what would be the reaction if Joe Lieberman ran for president as an "authentic Jew." Or if former Gov. Bill Richardson ran as an "authentic Latino."
Better still, how about an "authentically White" politician?
It is wrong for anyone to refer to Michelle Obama as a gorilla. Me unlike you allen won't go to the ends of the earth to defend people who are clearly wrong as two left shoes in which he or she says. Anyone calling Michelle a Gorilla is clearly out of bounds for political discourse. As for Tammy Bruce, saying Obama is Trash is very tame, especially compared to what Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann have been refereed to and called. The viciousness isn't from both sides as you claim. Progressives spew pure concentrated venom towards conservatives who are females, period. Come on allen, violent hurtful sex? The said that they would like to rape Michelle Bachmann and Rick Santorum. That isn't funny. They have deep unstable issues. I'm not going to get use to that kind of viciousness. Last year a union goon from the SEIU bit off the finger of a Tea Party person. Your friends once again have issues allen. Get used to it.
anon "What surprises me, the feminists, the NAACP, along with Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson does not go after her."
The scenario was wrong, so they ignored it. If a white comedian who was conservative in nature would have if Michelle Obama would come to Little Rock Arkansas, my white brothers would gang rape her. Then and only then would there be a response and it would be a huge response. Progressives are mainly frauds before anything else. They only express outrage when they can exploit it for their purpose.
Speedy "
Women who don't hold progressive values aren't real (un-sexed) women, just like African-Americans who don't want to live on a government plantation aren't "authentically black"."
Definitely Speedy. Nothing is more symbolic to a liberal woman then being in support of having an unborn baby having a spike put in it's head and sucked out like a vacuum. They feel conservative women aren't really women, because they don't support that! These people are sick in the head. A woman who values innocent life is deemed a traitor to women kind, sickening.
p allen "I'm aware that the term has been thrown around about President Obama. I didn't agree with it then, and certainly don't think it should be callously used now. Still, you have right-wingers like Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association?. who now believes he get's to say who's "authentically black", and who's not. "
I hate to break it to you allen, but Obama isn't authentically black. He's biracial, oops!! Remember when Barack Obama reffered to himself as a
MUTT
and a mongrel? He did so for a reason. If Carrol Mosely Braun, Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton would have been elected president when they ran, they would have been authentic as president in the term of being black. Obama is authentically bi racial.
p allen "Herman Cain wants to run for president as the "authentically black" candidate? The sad part is he thinks it's a funny thing to say! Makes me wonder if he would have sighed the FAMILY pledge that implied Blacks were better off as slaves..."
As I recall, BOTH Hermain Cain's parents are black. That means his mother is black also allen. Actually it wasn't funny what Cain said, but it is FACTUAL. Also stop the lying with the pledge statement. It never said that blacks were better off in slavery. I am calling you out on that, because I destroyed a liberal a few days ago who tried to play that same card against Bachman for supporting the pledge. Here's the context of what it said
"Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA?s first African-American President," read the preamble."
It said Slavery had a DISASTROUS IMPACT on African American families. So where in that did it say blacks were better off as slaves. Please speak up allen when you respond!
p allen "
Doesn't it also make you wonder what would be the reaction if Joe Lieberman ran for president as an "authentic Jew." Or if former Gov. Bill Richardson ran as an "authentic Latino."
I recall Joe Lieberman not being taken seriously in the Democratic primary in 2004 allen. Didn't a liberal blogger for Democratic challenger Ned Lammont during Lieberman's last Senatorial run depicted Lieberman in Joe Lieberman mocked in black face So what were you saying allen allen?
Better still, how about an "authentically White" politician?
If not authentically white, how about "authentically American"?
Obama, with an African father, can't even lay claim to THAT. Sad, huh? The way that Americans attack other Americans over politics.
Of course, if we ever went back to Constitutional basics of LIMITED government, we wouldn't have to be at each others throats. At least not at the national level.
The criticism of conservative women is obviously a "liberal bias". So much for the presumption that liberals were in any way "tolerant", despite all their holier than thou racial posturing.
CB;"It never said that blacks were better off in slavery. I am calling you out on that, because I destroyed a liberal a few days ago who tried to play that same card against Bachman for supporting the pledge".
Oh my God... No you didn't go there...
Tyrone, I really thought that you would have enough sense not to buy into that blatantly demeaning (if not racist) statement. You've got to be kidding!
First off, the crux of the statement, "yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household", is totally fallacious.
The shame you should carry is that you obviously don't know the reason why that statement does not even come close to being true!!!
History Lesson Tyrone:
For Black slaves in 1860, there was no such thing as a “two parent households.” Slaves were quartered on the plantation with their entire extended family. At times, as many as 15 people were crammed into a very small hut. The thatch roof huts they lived in were only used for sleeping and protection from the elements. Slaves weren't allowed to learn to read, and looked forward to nothing more than being a slave when they grew up. So how well could "mom and dad" prepare a family for the American Dream....
There was no such thing as a structured home life for “mom, dad and the kids.” One could hardly call that a “two parent household.”
What makes that statement thoughtless and callous is that, the perception given is that SLAVERY WAS BETTER FOR BLACKS! And the authors of that idiotic statement knew exactly what they were attempting to relay...THAT'S WHY THE REMOVED IT FROM THE PLEDGE! "Perception is reality.”
They are well aware that a slave has no choice’s and makes no decisions. They also know that "free people" can make their own decisions Be they good, bad, right or wrong, socially acceptable or not. As Americans, Blacks are free to do as they please. So for them to invoke the idea that the President is Black, is condescending and patronizing because the statement on it's face is pure BULLS#!T! The idea that the president is Black has absolutely nothing to do with, and has not effect either way on, White or Black, single parent households.
So comparing slaves to the modern day Black social plight, actually asks the question, “why did we free them in the first place?”
Now, do you still believe that Black slaves had "two parent households?" If so, I pity you. If not, go back and apologize to that "liberal" you claim you destroyed...
Speedy G"The criticism of conservative women is obviously a "liberal bias". So much for the presumption that liberals were in any way "tolerant", despite all their holier than thou racial posturing."
The word tolerant can be officially removed from how liberals describe themselves, because we know and even they know it's nothing more then a huge laughable lie. They have proven that it is a lie over and over again for decades now. The word intolerant suits them to a tee.
p allen "First off, the crux of the statement, "yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household", is totally fallacious."
Dam you are thick headed allen. The pledge said that slavery was disastrous for blacks, so how in the hell could something that was admittedly bad for black could have on the flip side been good for blacks? It's contradicting logic genius!!!! Yes black children where more likely to have been raised by both parents during slavery, that is why it is "SAD" that the black families were more together in the worst time in American history that was the most adverse toward blacks then under then during the time when the first bi racial president was elected. There is no avocation of blacks being better off during slavery, just that the children had both their parents. Who do you think you trying to fool allen? Even if the statement wasn't totally accurate, it still wasn't racist. This joke needs to be marked off as another pathetic episode of "fake progressive outrage".
p allen "What makes that statement thoughtless and callous is that, the perception given is that SLAVERY WAS BETTER FOR BLACKS! And the authors of that idiotic statement knew exactly what they were attempting to relay...THAT'S WHY THE REMOVED IT FROM THE PLEDGE! "Perception is reality.” "
Funny that progressives are so "upset" over the marriage pledge wording but they haven't said one word about the cheating scandal in Atlanta that has impacted thousands of black kids. Once again, FAKE OUTRAGE. Oh wait, it was black liberal teachers, principals and administrators who screwed over the black kids so no need for the outrage, lets just get pissed over the marriage pledge thing, because conservatives drafted it and republican candidates like bachman and cain signed it. lol sit down allen.
p allen "Now, do you still believe that Black slaves had "two parent households?" If so, I pity you. If not, go back and apologize to that "liberal" you claim you destroyed..."
I really don't care allen. I wasn't a slave, and I don't plan on being one. It's HISTORY. Unless you can tell me how the marriage pledge will somehow negatively impact blacks in 2011 and going forward, it's irrelevant beyond words.
CB;"Yes black children where more likely to have been raised by both parents during slavery".
That's just plain sad Tyrone...
Do you need me to provide links to credible historic sites? Here's one to start. I'll give you more if you ask.
During "ALL" of American slavery children worked just as their parents did. Children of slaves were considered slaves at birth. Once a slave child was old enough to understand that he or she was a slave, they were put to work.
There were no "slave households." There were "slave quarters."
After birth the child was weaned by his mother, then put to work. If a slave child learned anything productive (skills, art, etc..) ANYTHING, it was learned from the "massa."
There was no "parenting." Raising a slave was just that....RAISING A SLAVE.
On many occasions families were broken up. There were various reasons for this. One was if the slave owner fell on hard economic times and sold off his slaves. Another, if he died, the slaves were considered "assets" and sold off at auction or sold after probate.
In many cases, many slaves didn't know who or where their relatives were! Additionally, the slave masters often fathered children with slave women. They became slaves also...property, not a member of the massa's family.
As far as the "outrage about Atlanta schools", yes, I'm outraged. And rightfully so you are too...about that issue. Yet, that doesn't remove your dumbfounding acceptance, and agreement with a pledge that clearly implies "slave children had it better" thus, "it's better being a slave."
CB;"I really don't care allen. I wasn't a slave, and I don't plan on being one".
I'm totally surprised that you're playing the conservative side on this one Tyrone. Whether you realize it or not, you're acting like a slave.
Children of slaves were considered slaves at birth. Once a slave child was old enough to understand that he or she was a slave, they were put to work.
p. anthony should read Benjamin Franklin's biography... for he, too, was a "fugitive slave."
from Wiki:
Although "his parents talked of the church as a career" for Franklin, his schooling ended when he was ten. He then worked for his father for a time and at 12 he became an apprentice to his brother James, a printer, who taught Ben the printing trade. When Ben was 15, James founded The New-England Courant, which was the first truly independent newspaper in the colonies. When denied the chance to write a letter to the paper for publication, Franklin adopted the pseudonym of "Mrs. Silence Dogood", a middle-aged widow. "Mrs. Dogood"'s letters were published, and became a subject of conversation around town. Neither James nor the Courant's readers were aware of the ruse, and James was unhappy with Ben when he discovered the popular correspondent was his younger brother. Franklin left his apprenticeship without permission, and in so doing became a fugitive.
At age 17, Franklin ran away to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, seeking a new start in a new city.
"p. anthony should read Benjamin Franklin's biography... for he, too, was a "fugitive slave".
Wow Speedy, U reely know's yo' histree!
Franklin, like many European-Americans at the time, was a BOUND APPRENTICE. Not a "SLAVE."
From Wiki.
"They were under the control of courts and were bound out to work as an apprentice until a certain age. The most famous of these was Benjamin Franklin who illegally fled his apprenticeship with his brother, and Andrew Johnson, who later became president".
Even Wikipedia didn't refer to Franklin as a "slave." Yet in a failed attempt to prove a foolish point, you blather on that Benjamin Franklin was a slave???
Since when were slaves "under the control of courts." Since when were slaves "bound out to work as an apprentice until a certain age." What other escaped slave became a foreign minister, and a postmaster general?
This is just plain crazy....
Bondage, by any other name, would smell as sweet.
Wow... are YOU hung up on semantics. Pathetic. You remind me of a young Cratylus...
Plato, "Cratylus" "Whether there is this eternal nature in things, or whether the truth is what Heracleitus and his followers and many others say, is a question hard to determine; and no man of sense will like to put himself or the education of his mind in the power of names: neither will he so far trust names or the givers of names as to be confident in any knowledge which condemns himself and other existences to an unhealthy state of unreality; he will not believe that all things leak like a pot, or imagine that the world is a man who has a running at the nose. This may be true, Cratylus, but is also very likely to be untrue; and therefore I would not have you be too easily persuaded of it. Reflect well and like a man, and do not easily accept such a doctrine; for you are young and of an age to learn. And when you have found the truth, come and tell me. "
Since when were slaves "under the control of courts." It was pre-Dred Scott. It was only after 1857 that slaves had no legal standing in FEDERAL courts.
ps - In Islam, unless you're a Muslim, you still don't.
Slaves suing for freedom...
What other escaped slave became a foreign minister, and a postmaster general?
Frederick Douglas became a foreign minister, Charge d'Affairs in the Dominican Republic... but alas, Ben Franklin was the only other former escaped bondsman to become a Postmaster General, although several ex-slaves did became Postmasters of local offices (ie - James W. Mason). Of course, old Ben had a nasty habit of reading other people's mail... it got him in big trouble w/the English.
Speedy;"Wow... are YOU hung up on semantics. Pathetic".
Who wouldn't be, when someone attempts to convince you that Benjamin Franklin was a "slave!"
We all well know, what and who was involved in American slavery. For you to attempt to spin an idea that Franklin was an "American Slave" is ludicrous.
However, I'm one that knows when it's time to "let sleeping dog lie." If you believe Franklin was a "slave", there's nothing I should, or could do to convince you otherwise. Thus, you can believe whatever you want....
Yes, the truth is something that one should believe... and your truth is that only African - American slavery was "REAL" slavery. So be it. If it makes you feel more powerful, it MUST be true. ;)
Of course, how clinging to a sense of "holier-than-thou" victimhood makes your FEEL more powerful is beyond my ken. Have a great day, p. anthony. And just remember, if at first you don't suceed, it's only because "the man is out to get you!" ;)
btw - Just as Frederick Douglass spent the last few remaining years of his life advocating for women's suffrage doesn't belittle or make less the end of Franklin's, fighting for abolition.
I sit with Shakespeare and he winces not. Across the color-line I move arm in arm with Balzac and Dumas, where smiling men and welcoming women glide in gilded halls. From out the caves of the evening that swing between the strong-limbed earth and the tracery of the stars, I summon Aristotle and Aurelius and what soul I will, and they come all graciously with no scorn nor condescension. So, wed with Truth, I dwell above the Veil. Is this the life you grudge us, O knightly America? Is this the life you long to change into the dull red hideousness of Georgia? Are you so afraid lest peering from this high Pisgah, between Philistine and Amalekite, we sight the Promised Land?
America doesn't need to begrudge black souls anything. Some people willingly do it to themselves.
What's next Speedy? You want me to tap dance? Maybe sing and play the blues. How bout' ah jus shuffle own down so use could rub mah heyed...
p allen"Franklin, like many European-Americans at the time, was a BOUND APPRENTICE. Not a "SLAVE."From Wiki."
The few times I ever used a wiki as a reference, you laughed at it. So I will return the favor.
Speedy G"Yes, the truth is something that one should believe... and your truth is that only African - American slavery was "REAL" slavery. So be it. If it makes you feel more powerful, it MUST be true. ;)"
So true, progressives of all races tend to block out every other form of slavery that existed on this planet. They never talk about the Hebrews who were enslaved for 3000 years in Egypt. They never mention anything about female sex trade slavery, they never talk about whites who were enslaved in Europe, sweat job garment slavery all through out third world countries, illegal immigration slavery rings etc. As usual allen is very selective for a reason.
p allen "What's next Speedy? You want me to tap dance? Maybe sing and play the blues. How bout' ah jus shuffle own down so use could rub mah heyed..."
You're one to talk about "tap dancing" allen. You are the king of tap dancing around an issue you can't dispute allen, PLEASE!!! When you progressive pals are doing wrong, you can't even bring yourself to admit. You have to go and try and find something you deem equivalently wrong committed by someone on the right, instead of just saying that wrong is wrong.
What's next Speedy? You want me to tap dance?
Do whatever you want. We've got Al Jolson whenever we need to see some tap dancing or listen to the blues.
Oh, wait, that's too offensive. I guess well just have to be satisfied with dressing up a couple of Mexicans and watching THEM have a go at it. Better yet, maybe we'll get them to do a spiritted "hat dance" for us. I never was much of a tap dance enthusiast. Especially when one of the dancers obviously had two left feet.
CB;"The few times I ever used a wiki as a reference, you laughed at it. So I will return the favor".
I only did so because speedy used it first. You know I barely use wiki. So you can direct your laughter at speedy. I've been laughing at him since the outset of the conversation.
CB;"They never talk about the Hebrews who were enslaved for 3000 years in Egypt. They never mention anything about female sex trade slavery, they never talk about whites who were enslaved in Europe, sweat job garment slavery all through out third world countries, illegal immigration slavery rings etc. As usual allen is very selective for a reason".
Yes, I am being selective for a reason. Guess what the reason is...
THIS PARTICULAR CONVERSATION WAS STARTED BY A PLEDGE THAT IMPLIED BLACK CHILDREN WERE BETTER OFF DURING SLAVERY! (oops, I mean "bound apprenticeship") Hell, if Benjamin Franklin was a slave, Harriet Tubman was a "bound apprentice."
The FAMILY pledge mentions nothing about "the Hebrews who were enslaved for 3000 years in Egypt, female sex trade slavery, or the whites who were enslaved in Europe." They threw in President Obama for the effect. Using the president as a reference was merely playing the so-called race card, "face down". They know that none of President Obamas ancestors were slaves... oops, I mean "bound apprentices." Ohhhh wait! If his mother was related to Ben Franklin he could be a descendent of slaves. (since Franklin was a slave, and not a bound apprentice)
Perhaps they should have referenced "a child born into Hebrew, or white European slavery." Now that would have made some eyebrows raise....
CB;"The few times I ever used a wiki as a reference, you laughed at it. So I will return the favor".
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I only did so because speedy used it first. You know I barely use wiki. So you can direct your laughter at speedy. I've been laughing at him since the outset of the conversation.
Plato, "Phaedrus" SOCRATES: There was a tradition in the temple of Dodona that oaks first gave prophetic utterances. The men of old, unlike in their simplicity to young philosophy, deemed that if they heard the truth even from 'oak or rock,' it was enough for them; whereas you seem to consider not whether a thing is or is not true, but who the speaker is and from what country the tale comes.
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