Juan Williams learned a very valuable lesson about what GOP candidate can be race baited and which one can't.
I watched the South Carolina GOP debate Monday night. It was a decent debate for the most part. Fox News was sponsoring it, and one of the questionnaires was Juan Williams. Since the debate was held on Martin Luther King day, it was easy to figure out what was going to happen. Combine a black progressive, Dr. King Day and a Republican Debate in the southern state of South Carolina. Now mix it all together. Juan Williams made the foolish mistake of trying to corner Newt Gingrich on a comment he made the following week about the work ethic among the poor and the issue about food stamps. Newt said
"blacks should demand jobs not food stamps"
Newt was 100% right, but Juan took exception to that comment and decided to use Newt's comment back at him in the debate, BAD MISTAKE!!!
It was foolish of Juan to think that a person like Newt Gingrich was going to bite his tongue on something he said, especially if he knew he was right when he said it. Newt is a very cerebral thinker. He's like me. We tend to stand our ground on something we know to be right, and we tend to provide evidence to it back up. Progressives have always been know to burn the candle of race and welfare on both ends. When people mention anything about the blacks and welfare, progressives will usually be quick to mention that
"more whites are on welfare then blacks".
That is a true statement, because there are "more whites in America then blacks based on "population". That's only one side of the candle. When Republicans talk about reforming welfare so that it doesn't become an indefinite entitlement to the recipient and robs the recipient of his or her work ethic to stand on their own two feet, then progressives claim that
"welfare reform will adversely impact blacks and minorities the hardest"
So welfare advocates play both ends of the debate to try to have their cake and eat it too. I have zero problem with what Newt said. My first job was when I was 16, I worked at McDonalds. Hell, I had to clean out the bathrooms to. I had to flip burgers etc. I hated the job, but loved pay days, because I knew I earned that money. Because I started work at a young age, I understood not only the importance of work but also how important it was to budget money even though it was a part time job. Progressives always cry about young people not having anything to do in order to stay out of trouble, it seems obvious to me that if they are working, they can't get into any trouble. Somethings are just common sense like Newt demonstrated. The media and progressives were quick to come out and try to down play Newt's reference that Obama is the "foodstamp president". They claim that Newt is wrong. The fact is that more people are on food stamps then under any other president. Progressives are praying for Romney to win the nomination, because they know that Obama can't debate Gingrich if his life depended on it.
"blacks should demand jobs not food stamps"
Newt was 100% right, but Juan took exception to that comment and decided to use Newt's comment back at him in the debate, BAD MISTAKE!!!
It was foolish of Juan to think that a person like Newt Gingrich was going to bite his tongue on something he said, especially if he knew he was right when he said it. Newt is a very cerebral thinker. He's like me. We tend to stand our ground on something we know to be right, and we tend to provide evidence to it back up. Progressives have always been know to burn the candle of race and welfare on both ends. When people mention anything about the blacks and welfare, progressives will usually be quick to mention that
"more whites are on welfare then blacks".
That is a true statement, because there are "more whites in America then blacks based on "population". That's only one side of the candle. When Republicans talk about reforming welfare so that it doesn't become an indefinite entitlement to the recipient and robs the recipient of his or her work ethic to stand on their own two feet, then progressives claim that
"welfare reform will adversely impact blacks and minorities the hardest"
So welfare advocates play both ends of the debate to try to have their cake and eat it too. I have zero problem with what Newt said. My first job was when I was 16, I worked at McDonalds. Hell, I had to clean out the bathrooms to. I had to flip burgers etc. I hated the job, but loved pay days, because I knew I earned that money. Because I started work at a young age, I understood not only the importance of work but also how important it was to budget money even though it was a part time job. Progressives always cry about young people not having anything to do in order to stay out of trouble, it seems obvious to me that if they are working, they can't get into any trouble. Somethings are just common sense like Newt demonstrated. The media and progressives were quick to come out and try to down play Newt's reference that Obama is the "foodstamp president". They claim that Newt is wrong. The fact is that more people are on food stamps then under any other president. Progressives are praying for Romney to win the nomination, because they know that Obama can't debate Gingrich if his life depended on it.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 12:12 PM
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Leave in to the race baiting republican party to single out blacks on welfare.When in fact there are more whites on welfare than blacks.
I hope you washed your hands between cleaning toilets and flipping burgers! ;)
Sorry, but you're wrong. The second worse president in the history of the United States, Jimmy Carter confirmed it: Gingrich is talking in secret racist code that only white racists with klan hoods in their pockets can hear...
Williams was on O'Reily last night. Unlike you, I actually respect Juan's views at times. lol Not all the time mind you, and in this case I don't. But he's the only Democrat that at least tries to use rationale in debates or discussions. And I might add isn't as hateful or obnoxious as most on the left. (i.e. Alan Colmes)
Having said that, I believe Williams had a legit right to ask the question. He may have worded it a tad differently to not infer a racial overtone and play into the race game. None the less, it was a legitimate question and I don't frown on the question.
But Newt hit it out of the park! What did bother me a bit was that Juan felt Newt was putting him down a bit when he answered his question.
If you recall in that exchange Newt looked at Williams and said; at 2:56 mark: "First of all Juan." He also felt Newt was playing to the white folks in Carolina by answering it this way and it was a political move. Which I also believe is a ridiculous claim.
O'Reily was sort'a teasing him a bit last night about it. It was actually pretty comical to see Bill messing around with "JUaAnn."
But Juan seemed to indicate that he was more upset or concerned about Newt saying: " poor kids lack a strong work ethic." then anything else. And yes, Newt said that. But to suggest it was a negative connotation wasn't his purpose.
I think folks of all colors and economic status look favorably on this idea. And most common sense people don't see this as a racial divided answer or solution.
I didn't have a work ethic at 12 or 13 years of age. But if there was a program in school that would allow me the opportunity to make some money on school grounds for a few hours, I would have jumped all over that! And I think most kids regardless of color or economic status would have too.
Anyway Ty, great post. AND... I got a $50 riding on your purple birdie Ravens. Don't fail me brah! lol
As I thought long and hard about the first job I ever had, I came up with the paper route I had at age 12. At that time a paper route really wasn't considered a "job" because there was no set or annual pay. Furthermore, anyone from the station manager, my brother, to my best friend could deliver my route on any given day.
At 14 years old, my first actual job (with hourly pay and a bi-weekly paycheck) was through a "government" funded program called Neighborhood Youth Corps (NYC). I can remember that almost all my friends had an NYC summer job. The type of work ranged from, cleaning schools and school grounds, to working or training in auto industry mail-rooms corporate or offices.
The NYC program was extremely beneficial to the kids involved, our parents, our neighborhood, and the businesses in the area. I remember going shopping for school clothes with my first paycheck. A mere 8 weeks of summer work taught me the value of working, and the value of the earned dollar.
Searching the net for stories about the defunct NYC program, I came up with this story. Anyone wanna' trash "government" funded youth programs? Here's your chance...
shwn "Leave in to the race baiting republican party to single out blacks on welfare.When in fact there are more whites on welfare than blacks."
lol, you are funny shwn. It's Democrats who tell blacks that Republicans want to take away their rights to vote, that they want to return America to the days of Jim Crow blah blah blah, you need to catch up on the Democratic handbook on racial fear mongering. I might be able to get you a paper back edition.
Silverfiddle "I hope you washed your hands between cleaning toilets and flipping burgers! ;)"
Well, customers did say that the food tasted like crap. lol
Jimmy Carter was the second worst president. I thought nobody could ever trump him for the number one spot. Sure enough Obama has done it. Obama's record in four years can't even remotely begin to hold a candle to Carters four years in comparison.
Robb "Having said that, I believe Williams had a legit right to ask the question. He may have worded it a tad differently to not infer a racial overtone and play into the race game. None the less, it was a legitimate question and I don't frown on the question. "
Here's my question Robb. What relevance did the question have to do with the debate and presidential policy? People should be demanding jobs over food stamps. The food stamp ranks can't continue to grow due to the lack of jobs and also expect the national debt to decline also. For what it was worth, Juan asked his questions, but I think he didn't expect it get them answered in the way that they did by Newt.
Robb "But Newt hit it out of the park! What did bother me a bit was that Juan felt Newt was putting him down a bit when he answered his question. "
In my honest opinion, I believe Juan was on a mission to try and embarrass Newt in the debate. It backfired on Juan. When Newt referred to Obama as the food stamp president a week ago, Juan could have easily done the research to verify if Newt was accurate in his claim or not. Juan tried to put Newt on the spot for saying it in the first place regardless whether Newt was right or wrong.
Robb "If you recall in that exchange Newt looked at Williams and said; at 2:56 mark: "First of all Juan." He also felt Newt was playing to the white folks in Carolina by answering it this way and it was a political move. Which I also believe is a ridiculous claim. "
Surprise, Juan just can't admit that the crowd was cheering, because they couldn't stand Juan and like Newt. What in the hell did Juan expect? With all the really important issues that were being covered, for Juan to bring up a topic that was so trivial and unimportant to the candidates and the audience, it was only natural that the exchange and response happened as it did Robb.
Nice post... Looks like Newt has a real shot at winning South Carolina ;-)
Right now I would vote for a RUSTY BEER CAN before I would vote for Obama so I don't care what NEWT said to Juan Williams.
If hes on the ticket, he has my vote.
KLAN HOOD AND ALL
CB;"People should be demanding jobs over food stamps.
First off, it's race baiting, and no doubt condescending! Secondly, his claim that; "more people have been put on food stamps by Barack Obama, than any president in American history" is FALSE! (a.k.a. LIE). Conservatives have attempted to master the art of deception. Unfortunately, it only works on other brain dead conservatives.
Fact Check.org has the facts.
Most people (black and white) who receive food stamps receive them out of need, not preference. Everyone knows and understands that conservative/republicans do not want their tax dollars spent on so-called "entitlement programs."
Conservatives claim that "ALL Americans should have less government, self reliance and pull yourself up by the boot straps." If Newt Gingrich truly believes in those tenants, why would he single out Blacks and the premier Black organization?
Look at it this way... Black people receiving food stamps isn't the only federal government overseen entity opposed by conservatives. The federal government also oversees immigration. Would Gingrich dare to say that he would tell Latino or Hispanic organizations; "your people should demand citizenship before coming across the southern border."
I'm fully aware that those who cross the border are coming here illegally. Yet the fact remains that they do so out of "NEED." Thus, why would Gingrich bastardize an entire race of people simply to make a point about what other people in that race have done out of "NEED?"
I wonder the type of press Gingrich would get if he choose to speak to an Italian organization to tell them that their people should demand jobs and not be involved in organized crime?
The reason why most people who are recipients of food stamps and welfare is because many of them do not want to work.
I have fallen on hard times. It wasn't easy, but I made it through. Many years ago, I was residing at the Salvation Army, I received cash and food assistant while out job searching and going to school. The staff at the Salvation Army praised me because I was one of the few people whom they brought in that wanted to get my life back on track. While the others, men mainly, all they care about is a roof over their head, the next fix (alcohol or drugs) and a square meal. I have no regrets about being at the Salvation Army; it got me to mature a lot more and be more responsible.
I liked what Newt said about his daughter starting to work at age 13.
When I was young, my first job was doing yard work and ground maintenance. However, I was never taught the lesson of the value of the dollar. Each paycheck I had, went to spending it on leisurely activities such as playing video games at the arcades or getting my fix of soda pop. Well, there are worst things I could be addicted to.
When I too was younger, my mother applied for welfare after a nasty divorce. For a long time, I've dread to be a welfare family because I was too embarrassed while my peers came from well to do off families.
Thomas Jasen Gardner Tuesday, Jan 17, 2012
Senior
UW-Madison
“Its been a long time comin’, but I know a change is gonna come.”
Sam Cooke
Letter to the Editor:
Yesterday, Martin Luther King Day was the day the anti-Walker people broke the camels back of my endearing patience. When a liberal editorial writer misrepresented an interpretation of King’s position on unions, it put a cactus thorn in my pragmatic point of view.
But when protesters interrupted the Governor with boo’s and hisses on a day for a man that just wants us all to get along, the rude distraction really pissed me off. It unconsciously tells me that these union supporters maybe part of the group that did not want a MLK holiday. At the least, they certainly weren’t the supportive voices I heard during the confrontational debate for creating a MLK national holiday. Why else would protesters desecrate this worshipful moment? What kind of message do they think it gave black well-mannered attendees? These same people may have sympathized with their anti-Walker sentiments, before this public raucous action. But after this… only God can explain the behavior of stupid people.
What Gingrich said about blacks and welfare did play to their resentment. But if the truth plays to someone's resentment, so be it. It isn't racist to say it. It's an indication that perhaps its' time that the soft racism and reesentment that affirmative action breads gets ended.
Anon;"The reason why most people who are recipients of food stamps and welfare is because many of them do not want to work".
About 45 million Americans receive food stamps. That's roughly 14% of the American population. The unemployment rate is at about 9%. That's roughly 13.5 million workers of the U.S. population. Thus, according to your observation, 31.5 million people don't want, and are not looking for a job.
Hmmmmmmmm? I wonder where all these people live that don't want a job? Where ever it is, jobs must be plentiful...right? Help wanted signs all over the place, employers paying good wages and benefits to attract employees... It has to be a regular "job-bonanza!!"
Come on Anon, use a little common sense. When unemployment is high and jobs are scarce, people will seek help to feed themselves and their families. Some, like yourself, will seek help from an organization like the Salvation Army. But how many people can be helped through extended periods of unemployment on a Salvation Army operating budget of what, 1 or 2 billion? Certainly not 31.5 million people.
The Salvation Army and other charitable organizations used to be a LOT bigger, before civil servants put all their volunteers out of work.
fOOD sTAMPS Can be helpful in many family situations. Juan Williams live in a dream world of his own elite making. He got what he deserved.
Welfare destroyed the Black community in the 50s and 60s big time. Women had babies by the millions and men didnt have to take care of them. Wow! What a big payback to slavery. Well, the man won afterall. The Blacks are in slavery again through dependency on welfare which includes food stamps, medicare and money, Sect. #8 housing. Big Daddy, Uncle Sam to the rescue, on the plantation once again.
There were Black Crackers also, and Big Al and Uncle Jesse will crack that whip just like the white crackers would and still do.
Juan Williams would be the House Elite along with his cousin Obama and Aunt Barbara and Miss Hilliary.
Blacks have been used by both Black race hustlers and white genocide planners. Abortions have killed over 50 million Blacks as abortions have become birth control as human life is of less concern. Check the murder rate of already born Blacks.
Abortions prevent caring for Blacks on welfare or food stamps.
AGAIN, BLACKS WAKE UP, OR SEE THE GENOCIDE IN FRONT OF YOU. OLE!
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