The shameless exploitation of the Aurora Colorado theater shooting by progressive vultures.
As usual, the left is so predictable in their thought and behavior. I said a long time ago that progressives would exploit their own mothers if they thought it would help to advance their agenda. The tragic Aurora Colorado theater shooting is no exception to the rule of course. I don't need to go into details about what happened, because everybody in the nation already knows by now. My thoughts and prayers goes out to the victims and their families. This was a senseless massacre of life by a mentally ill person. I woke up yesterday morning to the news of what happened Thursday night at the Cinemark Aurora movie theater, I turned on the news and checked the Internet and to my not surprise, classless progressives were already exploiting the shootings in order to somehow blame of all people Rush Limbaugh, the Tea Party and using the tragedy to once again push of "gun control". Since most people are focusing on the depth of how tragic this event was, they really aren't paying these tin foil hatters any attention to what they are saying. I was on several Yahoo message boards yesterday replying to dim wits crying about the need for tougher gun control laws in the wake of the shootings. I made a reference about 911 in commenting that over 3,000 Americans were killed in an hour's time without one gun shot being fired. This may seem like a crazy concept for some people to grasp, but guns do not kill people. People kill people. Guns are merely a tool in which a person with the intent to kill uses in which to accomplish that goal. That rational logic of course doesn't sit well with the likes of
Mayor Michael Blooming Idiot Bloomberg
Micheal Moron Moore
The non talent known as Cher
Jesse "behind on his child support" Jackson
and other tinfoil leftists who couldn't wait to pick apart this tragedy like a pack of Piranhas attacking an animal that fallsl into the Amazon river. Gun control is never really about preventing gun crimes. Just like with the use of the fake issue of man made Global Warming, it is just an excuse in which those who believe in an ever powerful centralized government can use as an excuse in order to take away the power of the individual in order to further empower the collective aka government. If the shooter would have instead used a bomb that detonated and killed and wounded the exact same amount of people, would the people who are now calling for tighter gun control be saying anything about the use of homemade bombs? In an ironic add-on to this story, the Cinemark Theater Chain which owns the Aurora theater where the shooting happened has a policy at their theaters of being "gun free zones". A simple sign didn't stop James Eagan Holmes from doing what he was hell bent on doing, nor will it stop anyone else with the intent to shoot someone with a firearm.The only way to stop a mad man with a gun is with a law obeying citizen who is also carrying a gun. A lot of people know that, but some people who live in fantasy land will never will.
Mayor Michael Blooming Idiot Bloomberg
Micheal Moron Moore
The non talent known as Cher
Jesse "behind on his child support" Jackson
and other tinfoil leftists who couldn't wait to pick apart this tragedy like a pack of Piranhas attacking an animal that fallsl into the Amazon river. Gun control is never really about preventing gun crimes. Just like with the use of the fake issue of man made Global Warming, it is just an excuse in which those who believe in an ever powerful centralized government can use as an excuse in order to take away the power of the individual in order to further empower the collective aka government. If the shooter would have instead used a bomb that detonated and killed and wounded the exact same amount of people, would the people who are now calling for tighter gun control be saying anything about the use of homemade bombs? In an ironic add-on to this story, the Cinemark Theater Chain which owns the Aurora theater where the shooting happened has a policy at their theaters of being "gun free zones". A simple sign didn't stop James Eagan Holmes from doing what he was hell bent on doing, nor will it stop anyone else with the intent to shoot someone with a firearm.The only way to stop a mad man with a gun is with a law obeying citizen who is also carrying a gun. A lot of people know that, but some people who live in fantasy land will never will.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 11:58 AM
16 Comments:
Wish more people, of all colors, would wake up to the hippocracy of the left. all issues should be looked at objectively and not labeled as left or right for political gain. Yesterday's shooting was a tragic event, comited by a distubued person. He was white but if he was asian, latino, black or hindo, it would not change the facts. Gun control laws would not change the facts. Playing arm-chair quarterback via video on a Monday will not change the facts
The bereft of Aurora, CO deserve better.
(Thank you for this blog entry)
Thank You. You are so right, the victims of Aurora Colorado do deserve so much better the to have their suffering and anguish used as some cheap political publicity stunt. I was think about this today. I can only imagine how the mothers and fathers of those teens felt when they discovered that their child would never be coming home again or for the so called lucky ones who weren't killed but are in critical condition hanging on to life. Everything else is so irrelevant. The families and friends and those wounded don't want to hear about some no class clown on television or on the internet talk about the need for gun control. There is a time to discuss all issues politically, and this isn't one of them, and that is why people aren't listening to the progressive's rant about the need for tougher gun control. Little do they know, they are coming off as appearing extremely insensitive to the situation that just happened.
Here again, IT'S HAPPENS ON BOTH SIDES!!! Politicizing these tragedies is the way it works nowadays Tyrone. You attack, they attack. You claim they're filthy lowdown dogs, the claim you're a filthy low down dog. You blame them, they blame you. Do you really think that "no one" on the right is using politicizing this horrible tragedy? Examples;
From the Christian News Service.
"James Holmes, an Occupy Wall Street guy, murdered 14 and wounded 50+ at a midnight showing of the Batman movie that portrayed OWS'ers in a bad light".
GOP Rep., Louie Gohmert says the Colorado tragedy was an attack on Judeo Christian beliefs.
But of course, you'll agree with their assessments because you follow the "ideological hack" line. As for me, I don't agree with either side politicizing a tragedy. Every one who makes a comment attempting to tie the shooter to any ideology except "insane ideology", are guilty of shameful politics and despicable intent.
CB;"The only way to stop a mad man with a gun is with a law obeying citizen who is also carrying a gun".
Really? Your claim of "the only way" has no common sense merit whatsoever. A mad man with a gun has to shot first to identified as a "mad man" with a gun. A mad man with a semi-automatic weapon can empty a 30 round clip before bystanders even realize whats happening. Concealed weapons laws allows a person to "DEFEND" himself. That means you are on defense, not offense. Anyone will tell you, in a gun fight, the moment you're on defense your chances of survival shrink dramatically.
Moreover, there is no proof whatsoever that concealed weapons laws have prevented or slowed crime in any way. In doing a simple and quick Google search, I found a News story here of a CHL holder who accidentally shot and killed a store clerk he was attempting to protect from a robbery. Although I would rather have a gun during a mad mans outrage, I know that my gun is not the "only course of action" I can take to survive.
CB;"would the people who are now calling for tighter gun control be saying anything about the use of homemade bombs?.
DUUUUHHHH??? Guns are legal, homemade bombs are not. Been to any "bomb stores" lately Tyrone?
CB;"I was on several Yahoo message boards yesterday replying to dim wits crying about the need for tougher gun control laws in the wake of the shootings. I made a reference about 911 in commenting that over 3,000 Americans were killed in an hour's time without one gun shot being fired".
Didn't anyone explain to you that methods, procedures, rules and regulations changed "DRAMATICALLY" after 911?
Bottom line is that this was a senseless tragedy. There's no room for bickering about anything political when a crazy person commits such a heinous act. Just allow the victims and families to grieve in peace.
Dude, you're totally one sided. It's both sides using this tragedy for their own political gains and its disgusting. I have heard the right discuss how this happened because of the separation of church and state or because of gun restrictions. (ie. if more people had guns, stuff like this wouldn't happen). Cant we just let the families grieve before we bring politics into this? Both sides should be ashamed of themselves!
Milburn "Milburn said...
Dude, you're totally one sided. It's both sides using this tragedy for their own political gains and its disgusting. I have heard the right discuss how this happened because of the separation of church and state or because of gun restrictions. (ie. if more people had guns, stuff like this wouldn't happen)."
Milburn, this is the first I've heard about people on the right claiming that this incident happened due to the notion of a perceived separation between church and state. What conservative commentator or well known conservative activists said that Milburn? If someone on the right said this, then he or she or they are wrong. I believe that the lack of morality is the main cause for the decay in the behavior in society but that is different. As for if more people had guns comment, that is true. If a person or multiple people who have had concealed guns when John Holmes started his rampage, there is a good chance that the amount of people he would have been able to kill and injure would have been much lower then that were. It is a proven fact that people with criminal intent look for the targets of least resistance. It's only common sense. John Holmes could have killed himself after his shooting sphere, but he didn't. He himself didn't want to die. If he knew that people in that theater were armed, I doubt very much he would have gone through with his attack.
Milburn "Cant we just let the families grieve before we bring politics into this? Both sides should be ashamed of themselves!"
I agree Milburn. The only time I brought up the issue of mocking gun control after this tragedy was in response to those who brought up the issue of pushing for gun control. Both sides should cool it on this.
You mentioned on the Yahoo! blog that you reminded people about the events of 9/11 and how 3000 people were murdered without firing a shot.
I can also recall the events of the Oklahoma City bombing.
For 9/11, instead of going after the hijackers, Rev. Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, who concurred, blamed the homosexuals, the liberals, the ACLU, the Feminists and the pagans for the attacks to happen because of the immoral lifestyle. OK, I don't know what was going through their minds, but none of those people, whether you like them or not were not the ones who hijacked the planes and killed innocent Americans.
As for the OKC Bombing, then Pres. Bill Clinton condemned the bombing and swore that the suspect (Timothy McVeigh) will be brought to justice. Then a couple of days later, he blames conservative talk radio for the bombing. What did they do, give instructions about how to build a bomb?
p allen "Here again, IT'S HAPPENS ON BOTH SIDES!!! Politicizing these tragedies is the way it works nowadays Tyrone."
It shouldn't work at all allen. The right was in response mode to Limbaugh and the Tea Party being blamed for this. Conservatives had every right to call out those on the left who falsely labeled them as having some sort of connection to this mad man.
p allen "You attack, they attack. You claim they're filthy lowdown dogs, the claim you're a filthy low down dog. "
Wrong allen, the left attacked first, the right responded in kind.
p allen "GOP Rep., Louie Gohmert says the Colorado tragedy was an attack on Judeo Christian beliefs."
He was WRONG FOR SAYING THAT allen. It's that simple.
p allen "But of course, you'll agree with their assessments because you follow the "ideological hack" line. "
Hmmm, interesting. I just condemned Louie Gohmert and others on the right for doing what the left is famous for doing. So much for me "following the ideological hack line". Funny you would say that, I guess you are now trying to present yourself as being "non ideological allen? Nice try.
P Allen "CB;"The only way to stop a mad man with a gun is with a law obeying citizen who is also carrying a gun".
Really? Your claim of "the only way" has no common sense merit whatsoever. A mad man with a gun has to shot first to identified as a "mad man" with a gun. A mad man with a semi-automatic weapon can empty a 30 round clip before bystanders even realize whats happening."
Can you tell me why allen that states that have the strictest gun control laws in the country have the highest gun violence and murder rates? If the shooter was ahead of a person who had a loaded gun, that person could have shot the shooter from behind thus ending the incident. What is it that progressives have against the masses exercising their 2nd amendment right?It's no secret that the police can't protect the population 24-7, this was a sad reminder of that.
You already addressed it in your response to P. Allen but the comment was made by Texas Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert on the Heritage Foundation's "Istook Live!" show. He said that attack was an attack on and a weakening of Judeo Christian beliefs. I truly believe people are people and therefore both sides will shamelessly use stuff like this for political advantage. Its just wrong.
I go back on forth on the gun debate. If it were a store robbery, home invasion, VA Tech then yes armed protection would have helped. But a crowded movie theater with gas (low viability) and an assailant with body armor, I'm not so sure. Armed resistance would have likely caused more people to be caught in the cross fire, unless the defender was trained and close to the gunman. I doubt it would have deterred him. Crazy is crazy and it seemed as if he came prepared for resistance (the body armor).
CB;"Can you tell me why allen that states that have the strictest gun control laws in the country have the highest gun violence and murder rates? ".
Tyrone, how many times do I have to tell you that, as a conservative you're not allowed to make up your own facts. Facts are issued by those agencies that do comprehensive studies and record keeping (ie; government agencies and accredited non-partisan organizations).
With regard to murder, state population in raw numbers, 2010 FBI Records shows that the rate of murder is fairly consistent with population.
Florida (not shown in FBI stats, but shown HERE) population 19 million +, 987 murders (few gun regulations and vague stand your ground law)
New York State, population 19 million +, 860 murders. (has gun restrictions)
Texas, population 25 million +, 1246 murders. (has few gun restrictions)
California, population 37 million +, 1811 murders. (strictest gun control regulations in the US)
There is "NO PROOF" whatsoever that shows states with more gun laws, or fewer gun laws, are any less or more safer from gun violence....NONE! The next time one of your conservative mentors says fewer gun laws makes people safer, ask them to prove it.
Here's another tid-bit for you also. Did you know that Ronald Reagan endorsed, supported and enacted more gun restrictions than the right-wing conspiracy theorists "accuses" President Obama of even thinking about?
* "Governor Ronald Reagan of California signed the Mulford Act in 1967, "prohibiting the carrying of firearms on one's person or in a vehicle, in any public place or on any public street."
* "Reagan declared his support for a bill requiring a seven-day waiting period for handgun purchases. He did so at a George Washington University ceremony marking the 10th anniversary of the shooting that almost killed him and permanently disabled his press secretary, James S. Brady."
* In 1991 Reagan urged Bush I to drop his opposition to the bill.
* Reagan supported the 1994 “assault weapon” ban
CB;"This may seem like a crazy concept for some people to grasp, but guns do not kill people. People kill people. Guns are merely a tool in which a person with the intent to kill uses in which to accomplish that goal".
Yes indeed, it is a "crazy concept." Truthfully, guns don't kill people...BULLETS DO! However, you really don't need a "gun" per se' to kill with a bullet. Just take any caliber cartridge, hold firmly between your teeth and strike the primer hard enough with a hardened object. If the caliber of the cartridge is large enough (lets say a 20 gauge shotgun shell) there are 100 to one odds death will occur.
In all seriousness, I think the "guns don't kill, people do" mantra is stupid. The crazed maniac that did this crime in Colorado didn't use a "water gun" , "bb gun" or went throughout the theater striking cartridges with a hardened object, he had a SEMI-AUTOMATIC GUN. As for "law-abiding citizens" being armed to protect against this kind of carnage, according to the information we have now, James Holmes (the shooter) was just that, until he decided to kill innocent law abiding citizens with his guns.
The Federal Air Marshal Service (FAMS)is the in-flight security operation for the entire US commercial airlines industry.The entire FAMS operation is based on a concealed weapon. There are not FAMS agents on every flight. So the federal government banks on the possibility that two agents with a concealed handgun might be on any given aircraft are enough of a deterrent to prevent or stop another 9/11 style attack and spend millions a year on this program. Yet libs cannot grasp this simple concept.
The same crazies who want to ban guns have no idea on how to stop criminals from even stopping from obeying the laws of any kind.
How about throwing the book at those who smuggle guns, sell them on the black market and carry them without a permit instead?
The law abiding citizens with guns who have permits stop criminals on a daily basis.(If you want a link where ordinary citizens from every state stop criminals, I'll provide it)One just happened recently when a 71 years old man stopped to armed robbers and shot them inside an internet cafe.
But you won't hear that on the lame-stream media because it doesn't follow their wacko agendas.
Guns aren't the problem, the criminals with guns are and those can be stopped by what I juts mentioned above. But the liberals are too stubborn to actually hear or do something smart for once.
Also wanted to add something to what you said, Tyrone. You're right. In D.C. and Chicago where it is hard to get a gun, crime and violence is through the roof.
Christopher "Also wanted to add something to what you said, Tyrone. You're right. In D.C. and Chicago where it is hard to get a gun, crime and violence is through the roof."?
The gun control advocates for some reason can't dispute that fact and never will be able to.
Christopher "The same crazies who want to ban guns have no idea on how to stop criminals from even stopping from obeying the laws of any kind. "
Drugs are illegal, yet Americans can still get drugs. The government tried to outlaw alcohol during prohibition, that was a failure. If people want something, they will find away to get it regardless of what the government tries to do in preventing them from having it. Gun are no different.
Christopher "How about throwing the book at those who smuggle guns, sell them on the black market and carry them without a permit instead? "
You're right Christopher.The government can't even stop people from coming into the country illegally. We know that if every state had strict gun control laws, people would simply buy them on the streets instead of in the gun stores. Gun control nuts really don't think their position through at all.
p allen "n all seriousness, I think the "guns don't kill, people do" mantra is stupid. The crazed maniac that did this crime in Colorado didn't use a "water gun" , "bb gun" or went throughout the theater striking cartridges with a hardened object, he had a SEMI-AUTOMATIC GUN. As for "law-abiding citizens" being armed to protect against this kind of carnage, according to the information we have now, James Holmes (the shooter) was just that, until he decided to kill innocent law abiding citizens with his guns."
And your point is? Actually the shooter wasn't law abiding, because he purchased the guns with the expressed purpose to kill as many innocent people as possible. He purchased his guns and ammo with criminal forethought. He didn't buy those guns to protect himself or others from bodily harm, harm. That would have been the traits of a law abiding citizen.
Christopher;"Also wanted to add something to what you said, Tyrone. You're right. In D.C. and Chicago where it is hard to get a gun, crime and violence is through the roof".
Crime and violence isn't through the roof in D.C., Chicago, Detroit, Newark etc... because it hard to get a gun. Your analogy/statement makes no sense. Most of the violence is "GUN VIOLENCE." Guns are easy to get anywhere in America. If guns were, as you say, "hard to get", criminals wouldn't have them.
The NRA has duped a segment of Americans into believing that arming the citizenry will some how prevent crime. There are no facts to back up that claim.
Christopher;"The law abiding citizens with guns who have permits stop criminals on a daily basis.(If you want a link where ordinary citizens from every state stop criminals, I'll provide it)One just happened recently when a 71 years old man stopped to armed robbers and shot them inside an internet cafe".
Daily basis??? One or two stories of legitimate self defense every so often is not proof that an armed citizenry will prevent crime. For every story you come up with of an armed law abiding citizen successfully stopping a crime, I'll show you at least 3 that didn't.
In the U.S. it is legal to manufacture, buy and sell guns. Any one can get a gun, via legal avenues or illegal avenues. I have 3 legally purchased guns. However, if I wanted to I could obtain as many as my money could buy...legally or illegally!!
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