Even the Morning Joe folks at MSNBC aren't buying the September's job report.
Joe Scarborough is confused by the September Job report . He needs to join the growing crowd. I have to wonder did the Labor Secretary have any help from the former Chief Financial Officer at Enron in putting together the September's Jobs report.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 9:18 PM
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"Black America is awake." The policies of Jefferson Davis (Confederate of Virginia 1861) and Alexander Stephens ( Confederate of Georgia) is the driving core belief of the Republican Party. African Americans originally were in the Republican Party soon after the Civil War. But to the dismay of the white majority, black people were pooling their votes and getting elected into Congress, receiving power and representation. The white majority started a "lilly white purge campaign" of driving black people out of the party with terrorism and poll taxes. By 1921, only 2% remained as voters in the Republican party. "The big question would be why should black people hate the skin that they were born in and join a political group that wants their vote but desperately hates them?
anon "Black America is awake."
Ah, no they are not, and probably never will.
anon "Republican Party soon after the Civil War. But to the dismay of the white majority, black people were pooling their votes and getting elected into Congress, receiving power and representation. The white majority started a "lilly white purge campaign" of driving black people out of the party with terrorism and poll taxes."
Any examples of that? Sounds like a nice little story. I like the story of the great pumpkin better.
Republicans never drove blacks out of their party. Lyndon Johnson got the credit for the 1964 Civil Rights law even though many in the Democrat Party especially among it's southern collision tried to stop it. Republican Senator Everret Dirkson of Illinois was the key figure in getting the bill to Lyndon Johnson's desk in the first place. But of course he never gets mentioned.
anon "By 1921, only 2% remained as voters in the Republican party. "The big question would be why should black people hate the skin that they were born in and join a political group that wants their vote but desperately hates them?"
That is a good question considering the fact that six democrats (John Kennedy, Frank McCord, John Lester, Richard Reed, James Crow and Nathan Beford Forrest in 1865 in Pulaski Tennessee formed the Klu Klux Klan to begin with. But I'm sure you knew that. Furthermore the Democratic Party were the ones responsible for the creation of Jim Crow and black code laws. Famous Demcoratic segregationist during that ear included, Robert Byrd, Al Gore Sr, George Wallace,Oval Eugene Feubus, Ross Barnett and many others I can name if you require. President FDR appointed a former member of the KKK to the Supreme Court, Hugo Black. Democrats support Planned Parenthood which was founded by Margret Sanger a known white supremacist who wanted to kill of the black race through abortion. So why are blacks Democrats indeed.
The Democratic Party used to be the conservative party. Google the "Southern Strategy".
"So why are blacks Democrats indeed."(sic)
Until the sixties, the Republicans were the progressive party and the Democrats were the conservatives. Through the sixties these roles exchanged.
"Margret Sanger a known white supremacist who wanted to kill of the black race through abortion."
Can you support this statement with evidence?
Richard Harrison ""So why are blacks Democrats indeed."(sic)
Until the sixties, the Republicans were the progressive party and the Democrats were the conservatives. Through the sixties these roles exchanged."
That's odd, because today's GOP is a moderate controlled party. Let me guess, the Christie Todd Whitman, John Boehner, Mitch McConell, Reince Priebus, Mitt Romney, John McCain, Chuck Hagel, Lyndsey Graham, Arnold Schwartnegger, Olympia Snow, Susan Colin, Bob Dole, Herbert Walker Bush's of the GOP are conservatives? Thanks for enlightening me (sarcasm). These are the people who control the GOP not conservatives. I laugh every time I hear about the "great party swtich", yet no proof is ever provided. There are still Democrat conservatives to this day just as there are still Republican liberals to this day. It's funny how nobody on the left can name me 10 liberal republicans who registered as Democrats after the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights bill, but they sure can point to that famous Strom Thurmond though.
"Margret Sanger a known white supremacist who wanted to kill of the black race through abortion."
Can you support this statement with evidence?
Robert Harrison "Can you support this statement with evidence?" (in reference to Margaret Sanger)
http://www.dianedew.com/sanger.htm
First example from your "evidence".
"On blacks, immigrants and indigents:
"...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born." Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people"
Here is the entire text of the book "Pivot of Civilization"
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/1689/1689-h/1689-h.htm
Do these phrases appear in this book? No.
American "American said...
The Democratic Party used to be the conservative party. Google the "Southern Strategy".
Google the Southern Strategy? Too funny. Did you know that the black Democrat shift started in the 1930's.
Basically, the myth goes like this. Republicans made a concerted effort to attract southern white racists to their party as a means of locking up the southern vote. It was based on the syllogism that the Republican party assembled a national majority by winning over Southern white voters; Southern white voters are racist; ergo, the Republican party is racist.
There are three aspects to the Southern Strategy. First it is alleged that Barry Goldwater’s vote against the 1964 Civil Rights Act proved he was a racist and his appeal to “states rights” implied a continuation of Jim Crow. The reality of Goldwater’s alleged “racism” is much different, however. Goldwater had been instrumental in the effort to integrate the Arizona National Guard even before Truman integrated the Armed Forces. Goldwater had voted for all previous civil rights legislation. He was only opposed to two provisions in the ’64 Civil Rights Act; provisions which affected private property. He believed that private businesses and clubs were subject only to market forces, not government mandates.
The second aspect alleges that Richard Nixon used hidden code words that appealed to racists within the Democrat party and throughout the South in an effort to win white votes by exploiting racial tensions. The problem with this line of thinking is that, in order for racism to be hidden inside another viewpoint, that second view – to be a useful hiding place – must be one that can be held for entirely legitimate reasons. In other words, these are also positions principled non-racists can hold. The views are racist simply because they are defined as racist, a tautology.
Again, the reality of Nixon’s appeal to racism was much different than alleged. Richard Nixon’s background indicates he favored civil rights early on. It was he, who as Vice President, urged President Eisenhower to appoint Earl Warren to the Supreme Court. Earl Warren was well known for his pro civil rights views. Nixon was also in favor of sending troops to integrate Little Rock High.
Media coverage of the 1968 presidential race shows that he was in favor of civil rights and would not compromise on this issue. For example, an article published in the Washington Post on September 15, 1968 headlined “Nixon Sped Integration, Wallace says.” In fact, it was Nixon’s principled stance on civil rights that prompted George Wallace, a well known racist, to enter the race on a third party ticket. Nixon, in his memoirs, said that “The deep south had to be virtually conceded to George Wallace. I could not match him there without compromising on civil rights, which I would not do.”
Nixon’s record, once in office also belies the charge he was a racist or appealed to racism. His administration made historic progress in finally ending the practice of segregating the races in “separate but equal” schools in the South. When he took office in 1969, 68 percent of black Southern students attended segregated schools. Within five years, that number had been cut to 9 percent. As Tom Wicker wrote in his biography, One of Us, “The Nixon administration did more in 1970 to desegregate the Southern school systems than had been done in the sixteen previous years…”
I don't believe you wrote your last comment.
What you believe I did or didn't do really doesn't matter. The question is can you prove what was said as being factually inaccurate? If not, then everything else is a mute point.
Do you acknowledge that those quotes from Pivot of Civilization do not exist and that the "evidence" against Sanger is false?
Jeff "Does the fact that your evidence is false worry you? Doesn't your plagiarism set off tiny alarms in your head about your level of intellectual honesty?"
Hardly, the issue isn't about me. Frankly I am not even sure how this whole topic got started about the southern strategy, when it's about MSNBC not believing the September jobs report. I did a paper on the Southern Strategy in my 11th grade civic's class at Lake Clifton. Since you don't know me Jeff, I'll bring you up to speed on how I think. I rarely debate any progressive/liberal who can't concede a point when they are wrong. The reason I don't do that is because, I don't like it when ankle biters waste my time. I have over 200 political stories and articles crossing five categories. I normally post a link of a story instead of writing a full blown response, because I am not about to waste my time going into great detail that backs up my points just to have a lib dismiss it without ever acknowledging how it's factually inaccurate. So if you want to be an ankle biter, continue on, but you won't be wasting my time unless you have something of interest to me. Have a nice day. :-)
"I rarely debate any progressive/liberal who can't concede a point when they are wrong." (sic)
That said, do you acknowledge that those quotes from Pivot of Civilization do not exist and that the "evidence" against Sanger is false?
No I am not and also the evidence against Singer isn't false. I am going to respond to this one last time, because this thread isn't about Marget Sanger, abortion or anything racial. It's about the monthly unemployment numbers for September. If you want to email me about Margret Sanger and her quotes then fine.
Watch the video, look up the quotes referenced above from Sanger and email me if you like.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1aa_1325761170&comments=1
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I've never had a single, leftist racist that has ever invoked their redefined version of the 'Southern Strategy' that was able to explain to me the what the thoroughly racist (and democrat) Southern Manifesto is.
Revisionist history is all liberals know JD. From the founding of this country to the near present, they might as well be presenting an America that exists in an alternate universe JD. It nerves me when these mind numbed people think they can instantly pop up here and think they are somehow smart enough to race bait me. Just because their kooky professors thought them revisionist garbage, it doesn't mean it will fly in the real world among people who are way smarter then they will ever be. If they ever presented me with a compelling argument, then I would be more then ok to engage, but all they can do is present the same drawn out arguments that I have seen and beaten over and over and over again and again. They bring up the Southern Strategy like it's something new to me. They claim that the party's switched, yet to this day they can't even name any liberal republicans who switched and became democrats after the 1964 Civil Rights act was passed. That is why I ignore them. They are clueless JD.
What's a dixiecrat?
A dixiecrat was a democrat who lived in the south who sympathized with the former confederacy
"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." - founder of "Planned Parenthood" Margaret Sanger's December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble
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