Romney lost the election by just 300,000 votes.
For all the great talk by the progressive chattering class about some grand win by Obama, the evidence shows otherwise. I voiced my concern during the GOP primaries that Romney wasn't that strong of a candidate. Conservatives were picking through conservative candidates during the primary cycle in order to try and find the "anti Romney" candidate. I hate to sound like a broken record, but I guess I must in order to drive this point home. The talk by the left and some gullible Republicans is that Romney lost, because Hispanics, single women and young people came out for Obama. That is as wrong as two left shoes. Did they come out in support of Obama? Yes they did, but they weren't the reason Romney lost. These groups always vote Democrat, so that is nothing new. Romney lost the election due to a lack of enthusiasm among his own base. According to Michael Patrick Leahy over at Breitbart, Romney lost the election because of not getting 333,000 votes in 4 swing states, that's it. So again, all this talk about minorities, single women and young voters being this great force was true four years ago but it wasn't this time around.. It's interesting to note that the four battleground states that went for Obama all have Republican governors.. Here's the break down of each of the four states, and this will point to why conservatives were right to have questioned the strength of Romney early on. This was the vote break down in 2008.
Virginia.
In 2008
Obama won with 1,958,270 votes to McCain's 1,726,053 votes, a difference of 232217
In 2012
Obama won with 1,905,528 to Romney’s 1,789,618 votes, a difference of 115,910
Ohio
In 2008
Obama won with 2,708,685 votes to McCain's 2,501,855 a difference of 206,830 votes
In 2012
Obama won with 2,697,260 votes to Romney's 2,593,779 votes a difference of 103,481 votes
New Hampshire
In 2008
Obama won with 385,591 votes to McCain's 316,937, a difference of 68,654 votes
In 2012
Obama won with 368, 529 votes to Romney's 327,870 votes, a difference of 40,659 votes
Florida
In 2008
Obama won with 4,143,957 votes to McCain's 3,939,380 votes, a difference of 204, 577 votes
In 2012
Obama won with 4,236,032 votes to Romney' 4,162,174 votes, a difference of 73,858 votes
In every battleground state Obama won in 2008, his vote totals were down noticeably in the 2012 election. If Romney was a strong enough candidate, he would have received those 333,000 votes in those four states and would have won the election. Put it another way, if Romney would have received the same vote totals that Bush received in 2004 in those four battle ground states, he would have been president elect Romney.
Virginia.
In 2008
Obama won with 1,958,270 votes to McCain's 1,726,053 votes, a difference of 232217
In 2012
Obama won with 1,905,528 to Romney’s 1,789,618 votes, a difference of 115,910
Ohio
In 2008
Obama won with 2,708,685 votes to McCain's 2,501,855 a difference of 206,830 votes
In 2012
Obama won with 2,697,260 votes to Romney's 2,593,779 votes a difference of 103,481 votes
New Hampshire
In 2008
Obama won with 385,591 votes to McCain's 316,937, a difference of 68,654 votes
In 2012
Obama won with 368, 529 votes to Romney's 327,870 votes, a difference of 40,659 votes
Florida
In 2008
Obama won with 4,143,957 votes to McCain's 3,939,380 votes, a difference of 204, 577 votes
In 2012
Obama won with 4,236,032 votes to Romney' 4,162,174 votes, a difference of 73,858 votes
In every battleground state Obama won in 2008, his vote totals were down noticeably in the 2012 election. If Romney was a strong enough candidate, he would have received those 333,000 votes in those four states and would have won the election. Put it another way, if Romney would have received the same vote totals that Bush received in 2004 in those four battle ground states, he would have been president elect Romney.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 1:12 AM
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CB;"Romney would have received the same vote totals that Bush received in 2004 in those four battle ground states, he would have been president elect Romney".
"Hind sight is 20/20!" However in this case, you might say it's "25 or 6 to 4", and "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?"...
I knew a guy who one bet everything he had on a horse race. He claimed he had a Brietba..., ahhh...ummm, I mean "Guru" who was a wizard at horse racing. Well, he laid his life saving down on the horse, and the horse lost the race. What was his excuse for losing his money? Well, he says his horse just ran slower than the other horses, and had his horse ran faster, he would have won the race!
But wait... If his horse had ran faster, couldn't the other horse have run faster also?
Perhaps had the other horses ran "slower" his horse would have won!
But wait... Had the other horses ran just as slow as his horse, but faster than the horse in last place, but slower than the horse in first place, his horse could have ran "JUST" a little faster than slow, thus, winning the race!
Whatever the case, the loser guy still seemed to blame the horse for his losses. I asked him why.. His other reason was, "the horse was a wimp, and really didn't have the 'balls' to win."
So I went on to ask and suggest; "Then what would you do with a horse that had 'three balls' on him?" He didn't know. So I told him; "Walk him, and pitch to the donkey!"
Tyrone, I've got a writing assignment for you. Take the title of your essay and write it 1000 times.
(but for good measure and a dose of reality, leave off the part "by just 300,000 votes.")
As you can see Tyrone, I'm going to have fun with all this conservative "spin-gripe-moaning."
CB;"The talk by the left and some gullible Republicans is that Romney lost, because Hispanics, single women and young people came out for Obama".
You forgot about "the Blacks."
Yeah...that's right. The Republicans don't need "no stinking minority, women and young" vote. As Romney has said (and doubled down on after he lost) he's not concerned about 47% of the vote.
However, gullible Republicans like Bobby Jindal doesn't agree with that strategy. He's so "gullible" he actually believes that the Republicans should " go after 100 percent of the votes, not 53 percent." Better add him to that list of "fake conservative Republican R.I.N.O.'s also...huh?
I hate to pile on, but Tyrone that's a lot of loser talk. You act as if 300,000 votes is a small number. It is, if you're talking about the entire country voting. But this was relegated to four states. The total number of people voting in those states was a little over 15 million. That makes 300,000 about 6%. To lose by 6% is the same as being beaten handily. It would be the same as if President Obama won the popular vote by about 9 million.
To make a football analogy it would be like if you said "we would have won if he didn't turn the ball over 5 times and had a 100 yards in penalties levied against us". You might not appreciate such a comparison if never played the game. I played for Baltimore City College and University of Delaware at a time when both were powerhouses. I've heard a lot of loser talk from an assortment of losers. Please forgive me for digressing. I figured that since we were homeboys from different generations, you might be able to identify with my local football descriptors.
I made a mistake and said 300,000 was 6% of 15 million. I was wrong and it's only 2%. Nevertheless, it's consistent with the victory pathway of the race overall. Please forgive me for the faux pas.
Westely Williams "I made a mistake and said 300,000 was 6% of 15 million. I was wrong and it's only 2%. Nevertheless, it's consistent with the victory pathway of the race overall. Please forgive me for the faux pas."
I forgive you for math not being your strong staple Westley. I'll simplify this for you, by the way Romney did indeed lose with those battle ground four states period. I did the math myself before I posted the story from Breitbart also. Pay attention Westley.
Obama won the electoral college with 303 votes. Romney ended up with 234 votes. The total electoral votes combined in Ohio, Florida, New Hampshire and Virgina is 64.
Subtracting 64 from 303 leaves 239 votes for Obama
Adding 64 votes to 235 would have given Romney 299 votes. 270 is needed to win.
Class dismissed.
Furthermore, 330,000 is the equivalent of a 70,000 seat NFL football stadium being filled up four and a half times. 333,000 is half the size of the population of my city Baltimore.
333,000 is a mere 5% the population of New York City. So yess 333,000 is a small amount of people when spread across 4 states. The reason why I posted that Romney lost by 333,000 was simply to show that Obama wasn't strong and his special interest groups weren't the ones who secured the victory for him. That was it. It was merely to show that a stronger candidate could have beaten Obama. The rest is water under the bridge. It's not "loser talk", it's just presenting a story to debunk the laughable myth the left is presenting on why Romney lost.
p allen "ou forgot about "the Blacks."
Actually I didn't allen. I left blacks out on purpose. The Democratic Party owns the black vote lock stock and barrel. Blacks are beholden to the party. Besides, the GOP has been poisoned in the minds of blacks for so long, it would be a waste of time and resources extending a hand to blacks, because it would simply be smacked away. The GOP should focus on the only group of minority voters which can swing elections anyways and that is with Hispanic voters. Blacks are simply a lost cause allen and as a collective they have made perfectly clear who their sworn allegiance is with. I had a talk with a friend today, and I told him pretty much the same thing. Hispanics are the number minority group.
p allen "
Yeah...that's right. The Republicans don't need "no stinking minority, women and young" vote. As Romney has said (and doubled down on after he lost) he's not concerned about 47% of the vote. "
Nice attempt at either sarcasm or humor allen. Romney's 47% comment had nothing to do about race so why you injected it into this is beyond me. Furthermore, the GOP has minorities voters. You know how hypocrties make my blood boil right? Read this very, very carfully and slowly allen.
The same people who talk about there being a lack of diversity in the GOP are also the ones using racial attacks against minorities who are in the GOP.
I sure hope that sank in. Even if minorities wanted to join the GOP, they would have to face the vile racist treatment by Democratic minorities. Stacey Dash was the symbol of that in this election. I wonder why I myself wasn't called names like Uncle Tom, House Nigger, Yessah Massa, Sambo etc when I was a Democrat. Was it because as long as I knew my role or place, things would be fine? I am willing to bet that there are minorities who vote Republican but are registered Democrats. For them it's easier to fly underneath the intolerant progressive Democrat's radar. It's absurd for the Democrats to talk about the GOP having an "inclusive" issue, when it is more then obvious that the Democratic Party has a "tolerance" issue on minorities who have opposing points of view then theirs.
p allen "
However, gullible Republicans like Bobby Jindal doesn't agree with that strategy. He's so "gullible" he actually believes that the Republicans should " go after 100 percent of the votes, not 53 percent." Better add him to that list of "fake conservative Republican R.I.N.O.'s also...huh?"
Is this the same Bobby Jindal that you mocked for the sytel of his SOTU response back in 2009 allen? Going after 100% of the vote is useless, because no candidate will ever get that. The country is split right down the middle. Red states are redder and blue states are bluer. Can you name one candidate who ran for president who received 100% of the popular vote allen? Speak right up. Jindal use to represent one of the most conservative districts in Louisiana when he was in congress before running for governor.So what he has to say now doesn't impress me none. For all anyone knows, he could be trying to position himself for a run in 2016. I have no problem with the GOP reaching out to like minded voters. The party should never change it's identity to an become the Democratic Party lite though. When that happens, there is no contrasting choice, it all becomes blurred.
CB;"Is this the same Bobby Jindal that you mocked for the sytel of his SOTU response back in 2009 allen?".
Yep, that's him! The same Bobby Jindal you believed to be a conservative icon. Yet now, "what he has to say now doesn't impress you none." Yep, that's the same guy...
CB;"I have no problem with the GOP reaching out to like minded voters".
What is that supposed to mean? People who vote a particular party are already "like-minded" aren't they? That's where the GOP screws up. There's no diversity of idea's. The GOP is becoming the party of old white guys, grumbling and mumbling about the changing face of America.
CB;"Going after 100% of the vote is useless, because no candidate will ever get that".
And why would anyone "not" strive to achieve 100% for their efforts? If you were a NFL quarterback I guess you'd tell your coach, "going after a touchdown every time were have the ball is useless, because no team will ever do that." Why would you not give your best effort to "everyone" (100%) you talk to when running for office, or even selling used cars?
There's only one reason why "certain elements" of the party doesn't agree with outreach. They don't want diversity in the party, that's the only reason not to go for 100%.
As far as you're concerned Tyrone, as a young Black man, can you tell me what new and inspiring idea's have you brought to the party? Within the overall conservative movement, what innovations or idea's have you contributed? All I've heard from you have been regurgitated talking points and conservative ideas from 40,50,60+ years ago. Oh wait... isn't that what "conservative" means? So it's safe to say that you "cant" change or innvovate a thing! Basically you have to do what you're told.
Still trying to figure out how you snatched defeat from the jaws of certain victory?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
stensury " stensury said...
Still trying to figure out how you snatched defeat from the jaws of certain victory? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA"
Start over with the lauding then stick a mirror facing you. I don't need to figure out how Romney lost, I just explained it in detail in several stories. Also, I never made a statement tha Romney was certain to win, you sure make a lot of assumptions when what I posted is well now.
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