Bill O'Reilly and Don Lemon are definitely not cowards when it comes to discussing the issue of race.
Obama's Attorney General Eric Holder once said that "Americans are cowards when it comes to disusing the issue of race". Of course a coward to people like Holder and the left are people who don't agree with them. I'm not a big fan of Bill O'Reilly, but sometimes he does manage to say something that actually makes perfect sense. A few weeks back, he talked about on his show about the out of control behavior of young black males. Talking about the problem is nothing new, but Bill went all out in lambasting the progressives who wish to blame external factors for the problems in the black community while also presenting solutions that the Congressional Black CONgress, and the race hustling industry will completely ignore. Of course progressives attacked O'Reilly for him saying what he said, but they couldn't discredit what he said.
I've come to realize years ago that the black community is being played for suckers and idiots. Progressive black politicians are out actually blaming the problems in the black community on non factors such as the "tea party" and "conservative supreme court justices"?! As I've been saying, the problem in the black community is solely internally created, and the so called black leadership and progressives in general do no want to address he "real" problems. I've always scratched my head every time I've listened to black and white progressives cry about black drug dealers getting harsher drug sentences for selling crack versus white drug dealers for selling powder cocaine. O'Reilly is right, why would any black person care that if a black person (who is selling poison to his own people) gets a harsher prison sentence or not? Most of all the black on black murders are drug and gang related. So why would anyone in their right mind be the advocate of people who are in business to make a profit by destroying people's lives? Liberalism is a mental disorder., because it makes zero sense. How is teaching black kids Ebonics in school going to help them in the real world? It's not going to help them get into college, because they aren't going to get into college or be able to get a marketable skill. It seems that progressives want to promote insane ideas for making life better and then blame other factors when the real world doesn't comply with their insanity. Don Lemon is a black journalist and news anchor on CNN who has a segment on the weekends called "No Talking Points", he backed up and agreed with what O'Reilly said and actually said that O'Reilly didn't go far enough. I was pretty impressed with Lemon, because it took guts for him to agree with O'Reilly knowing that by doing so, the ever not so tolerant progressive left were going to attack him as some sort of race traitor.. Don Lemon did expand upon what O'Reilly said perfectly.
I've come to realize years ago that the black community is being played for suckers and idiots. Progressive black politicians are out actually blaming the problems in the black community on non factors such as the "tea party" and "conservative supreme court justices"?! As I've been saying, the problem in the black community is solely internally created, and the so called black leadership and progressives in general do no want to address he "real" problems. I've always scratched my head every time I've listened to black and white progressives cry about black drug dealers getting harsher drug sentences for selling crack versus white drug dealers for selling powder cocaine. O'Reilly is right, why would any black person care that if a black person (who is selling poison to his own people) gets a harsher prison sentence or not? Most of all the black on black murders are drug and gang related. So why would anyone in their right mind be the advocate of people who are in business to make a profit by destroying people's lives? Liberalism is a mental disorder., because it makes zero sense. How is teaching black kids Ebonics in school going to help them in the real world? It's not going to help them get into college, because they aren't going to get into college or be able to get a marketable skill. It seems that progressives want to promote insane ideas for making life better and then blame other factors when the real world doesn't comply with their insanity. Don Lemon is a black journalist and news anchor on CNN who has a segment on the weekends called "No Talking Points", he backed up and agreed with what O'Reilly said and actually said that O'Reilly didn't go far enough. I was pretty impressed with Lemon, because it took guts for him to agree with O'Reilly knowing that by doing so, the ever not so tolerant progressive left were going to attack him as some sort of race traitor.. Don Lemon did expand upon what O'Reilly said perfectly.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 11:09 AM
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ACM-"I've listened to black and white progressives cry about black drug dealers getting harsher drug sentences for selling crack versus white drug dealers for selling powder cocaine. O'Reilly is right, why would any black person care that if a black person (who is selling poison to his own people) gets a harsher prison sentence or not?"
Illegal drug use is not a black/white issue. Drug use is a people issue. It became a black/white issue when drug users were treated differently by the courts and politicians. Although you may not use illegal drugs you are just as black as the many blacks who do. That fact alone should be enough for you to be concerned. I say that because it is impossible for you to know everything about every person you associate with. My mother was hooked on barbiturates for 15 years and I never suspected a thing. You could have a friend, co-worker, family member, or a classmate that can put you in a precarious position. Your black associate could hide his drug use from you and you could get busted riding with him or talking to him. Now you can start to care if a black person gets different treatment.
That O'Reilly video is spot on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRTSrun6htA
While the national press treats Newark mayor Corey Booker like some kind of boy wonder who is tauted to become the next Senator in New Jersey, the link above is to a revealing video of a black woman who tells the lowdown of the inner streets in Newark. If Booker had spent the last few years dealing honestly with the cause of crime, fear and poverty (like Bill Cosby and Ben Carson did), instead of voting for him, the blacks would be a wolfpack calling him "Tom, turncoat, too white," and every other doll in the liberal voodoo bag. (But no, Booker decided to "out-black" the field by towing the liberal democrat party line.) Physically, mentally, financially, false religiously, and politically, poor inner city blacks are their own worst enemy (and who they listen to), clueless and unenlightened on how to raise themselves from the ashes. It will take brave warrior men and women with iron stomach and protective services* who can stay in the fight long until speaking the truth can bring about cartharsis of the mad-dog distemper of the past 50 years. A person like Clarence Thomas, although somewhat protected behind the walls of Supreme Court, has and does regularly take tomahawks to his psyche.
*On CNN Headline News, 2-15-01, it was reported that a black minister said he got death threats for supporting a white mayoral candidate. On MSNBC Hardball With Chris Matthews, 2-15-01, during an interview a black leader said, “You can be a murderer, a pedophile, and get by in a black community. But don't be a black republican ... Black people are being scammed by civil rights democrat liberals ... “ Also, by Allen West: ""There is nothing more threatening to white elitist liberal, than a minority conservative."
As far as I'm concerned, Bill O'Reilly can stick an egg in his ass and blow it out his ear. His so-called "concern" for the black community does nothing but spread discontent among his white viewers. Moreover, as I've said many times, WE AS BLACKS HAVE TO ADDRESS AND SOLVE OUR OWN ISSUES!
As for Don Lemon, HE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! His synopsis of the five major issues confronting our communities (ie; the behavior of many of children and adults) is the results of the failure to build and maintain a social infrastructure.
However, the reality in Lemon's address is that he's "preaching to the choir." How many 15 to 22 year old's who wear their pants sagging, have babies out of wedlock, high school dropouts, and those who use the word "nigger" on a daily basis, are watching CNN on a Saturday afternoon? How many of that ilk even know who Don Lemon is?
With concern to "Rappers" and the entertainment industry, that's something I've thought long and hard about. Personally, I can't and won't hold Jay-Z, Snoop Dogg, Eminem, etc... accountable for the image they portray, or their lyrical content. I can't and won't hold them accountable for two simple reasons; one, what they do to earn their money is LEGAL! Two, your kids are not their kids. You have to teach your kids right from wrong, not them!
I've heard many conservatives say that "parents should be responsible for their children", to which I totally agree! Yet some still say, "these rap artists are corrupting, hurting and damaging children through their negative images and lyrics." I respond by saying this; I ask, "your kids like candy and ice cream, don't they?" Candy and ice cream are legal to buy and sell. If I sell candy and your kid comes up to me with money in hand, I'm not going to tell them I won't sell to them because too much candy will rot their teeth. I'm going to sell your kid as much candy as his or her money will buy, and let you worry about their health. Metaphorically, Jay-Z will sell your rotted teeth kids millions of dollars worth of candy, and would care less if their teeth sagged down as far as their pants!
Therefore I can't hold rap artist accountable for PROMOTING AN IMAGE AND LEGALLY SELLING THEIR PRODUCTS. If I did, I'd have to hold cigarette manufacturers accountable for lung cancer. I'd have to hold beer and liquor manufacturers accountable for drunk drivers. I'd have to hold gun manufacturers accountable for Columbine and Sandy Hook.
Bill O'Reilly was very brave for pointing out the obvious. However, his very honest questions regarding the abysmal state of most black Americans today merely fell on deaf ears and sadly received the expected scorn & criticism of the left!
Bill O'reilly has disappointed me over the years especially when he started softening up to that shriveling race rodent, Al Sharpton!
I could not understand what motivated Mr. O'Reilly to engage Sharptons in his racial antics by accepting an offensive dinner date with him at a black owned establishment in Harlem called Sylvia's!
O'Reilly made the hideous mistake of taking Sharpton's bait in naively concluding what most liberals want the entire world to believe, and that is, "blacks think alike", "vote alike" and pretty much "subsist on one common meal", which is to grease on "soul..........food"!!!!!
I nearly cringed with embarrassment when O'Reilly shamelessly alerted his viewers of just how surprised he became after witnessing the civil manners of the mostly black patrons whose eating patterns he deemed indistinguishable from white folks!
This is the kind of patronizing attitude which is sadly contributing to the racially divisive motives of the left, especially Obama!
O'Reilly seems to have a soft spot for liberals especially black liberals like Sharpton, Juan Williams & Obama. He even alerted his viewers that he forked over nearly $25,000 dollars of his own hard earned money to assist Sharpton to...guess what? "FEED HUNGRY NEGROES"!
The following day, I emailed Mr. "No Spin Zome" and questioned whether or not he would be willing to extend the same misguided act of false charity if another notorious racist like David Duke had approached him and asked him to assist him in feeding poor white trash? Well as to be expected, I got no response!
So O'Reilly's efforts as far as I'm concerned in trying to alert the general public of the ongoing hold in which mostly Ivy League educated, rich white liberal Democrats have on the millions of misinformed blacks will not be rectified any time soon.
As long as these hypocrites continue to distract blacks into looking back at the past while encouraging them to resent conservative-minded white people & the Republican party, the important questions centered on the collapse of the black family as a result of decades long liberal Democrat policies will simply go on indefinately!
p allen "As far as I'm concerned, Bill O'Reilly can stick an egg in his ass and blow it out his ear. His so-called "concern" for the black community does nothing but spread discontent among his white viewers. Moreover, as I've said many times, WE AS BLACKS HAVE TO ADDRESS AND SOLVE OUR OWN ISSUES!"
What has been the liberal concern for the black community allen? All we ever hear is talk about amnesty for illegal aliens, abortion and gay marriage. How are any of these core progressive issues related to helping blacks in America? O'Reilly spoke the truth, and you can only attack the messenger, but you can't discredit, tarnish or defeat the message given.
p allen "WE AS BLACKS HAVE TO ADDRESS AND SOLVE OUR OWN ISSUES!"
lol, oh really allen? When blacks talk about fixing the real problem with black America, those black people are ostracized allen. Nah, the game is to go along with the flow and pretend everything is all right. The National Association for the Advancement of Colored Progressives is to busy promoting non black issues such as "gay rights", "climate change", and "amnesty for illegal aliens". Progressives don't give a dam about the black unemployment rate UNTIL a white Republican takes over, then and only then does it becomes an issue. Bill Cosby, Dr. Carson, Rev Wayne Perryman and others have been saying the exact same thing that O'Reilly has been saying and have been met with the same results, criticism and personal attacks on them yet never their message.
p allen "However, the reality in Lemon's address is that he's "preaching to the choir." How many 15 to 22 year old's who wear their pants sagging, have babies out of wedlock, high school dropouts, and those who use the word "nigger" on a daily basis, are watching CNN on a Saturday afternoon? How many of that ilk even know who Don Lemon is?"
What blacks in the entertainment business are stepping up and telling young black men to pull their pants up, speak like they have some sense, stop getting freaking tattoos on their neck etc? Why isn't this message getting out on BET, TV ONE, Jet, Ebony Magazine etc? Why isn't this message played by black DJ's on urban radio stations allen?Oh I forgot, O'Reilly is the problem. lol.
Mayor Nutter of Philadelphia gave the same message as O'Reilly. They are still acting like fools in Philly.
anon " Although you may not use illegal drugs you are just as black as the many blacks who do."
I'm not exactly sure what you meant by that. Skill color doesn't determine whether a person does drugs or not. I am a black man who has never done drugs, so what was the point?
anon" That fact alone should be enough for you to be concerned. I say that because it is impossible for you to know everything about every person you associate with."
It's not about who I associate with, I can only answer to myself. I've never had the curiosity nor urge to even try a drug. I'm very particular about what I put in my body, and I know what narcotics can do to a person's body and mind.
anon " My mother was hooked on barbiturates for 15 years and I never suspected a thing. You could have a friend, co-worker, family member, or a classmate that can put you in a precarious position. Your black associate could hide his drug use from you and you could get busted riding with him or talking to him. Now you can start to care if a black person gets different treatment. "
Sorry to hear that about your mom, hopefully she is getting treatment. My criticism wasn't aimed at addicts. My attack was aimed squarely at the dealers who sell the drugs to begin with. To me drug dealers are like roaches. Addicts come in all shapes and colors, some aren't even drug addicts. Addiction is a powerful thing, it can be said it's sort of like slavery, because certain people lack the will power to break the chains of addiction.
CB;"lol, oh really allen? When blacks talk about fixing the real problem with black America, those black people are ostracized allen".
You're absolutely correct! Blacks ostracize, ridicule, castigate, and basically attack each other at every level of the social and political realm. The separation of ideal's among blacks became prominent about the same time as the civil rights movement began. More specifically, the divide of ideas as to what direction blacks in America should take, began after the Civil War. However, it was the [thought to be] noble act of "integration" that caused the black social and political divide.
CB;"The National Association for the Advancement of Colored Progressives is to busy promoting non black issues such as "gay rights", "climate change", and "amnesty for illegal aliens".
So what? The NAACP supports those causes because they're involved in social politics. As if Project 21 doesn't involve it's organization in politics? As if The Congress of Racial Equality doesn't involve itself in politics?
You see Tyrone, in a nut shell that's a major part of the problem. Blacks are divided at all levels. Instead of the most prominent black thinkers and powerful political figures putting their heads together, they attack each other. Black organizations divide themselves along political lines, while the vast majority blacks doesn't pay attention to either side. The NAACP has about 200,000 members. That's less than one percent of blacks in America.
The fact is blacks on every level of American society attack, abuse, distrust and separate themselves from themselves. As long as e can't come together to improve and empower our communities, our communities won't get any better.
divide and conquer/rule-
"a way of keeping yourself in a position of power by making the people under you disagree with each other so that they are unable to join together and remove you from your position".
Anonymous-"The following day, I emailed Mr. "No Spin Zome" and questioned whether or not he would be willing to extend the same misguided act of false charity if another notorious racist like David Duke had approached him and asked him to assist him in feeding poor white trash? Well as to be expected, I got no response!"
Bill O'Reilly has millions of viewers who watch his shows and and receives a ton of e-mail. Just because he never responded to your e-mail does not mean he refused to answer your question. I've wrote O'Reilly a few times to express my points of views, but he never read them on the air. It's the same when I send Jay Leno some clips for his Headline segments. Out of all the clips I've sent him, he only posted one on the air. So don't assume that O'Reilly is intimidated by your e-mail.
-Big Pop
p allen "As far as I'm concerned, Bill O'Reilly can stick an egg in his ass and blow it out his ear. His so-called "concern" for the black community does nothing but
spread discontent among his white viewers. Moreover, as I've said many times, WE AS BLACKS HAVE TO ADDRESS AND SOLVE OUR OWN ISSUES! As for Don Lemon, HE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! His synopsis of the five major issues confronting our
communities (ie; the behavior of many of children and adults) is the results of the failure to build and maintain a social infrastructure."
1) Bill O"Reilly and Don Lemon in their videos, were saying the same thing. O"Reilly gave the "sermon," which is aimed at both feelings and intellect. Lemon gave a more detailed teaching outline. Allen, you railed against O'Reilly. If O'Reilly was black and said the same thing would you agree, as you did with Lemon? If so, that is race hate - rejecting truth when it comes from whites.
2) Regardless of trends, USA is still majority white, including providers of jobs. It is unrealistic for blacks to just "solve our own issues." But if you want to be Black Nationalist, then call up Louis Farrakhan, because that is what the Black Muslims advocate. Black Muslims have been losing people and influence since the 1970s because black nationalism will not work unless a new separate nation is chartered by qualified blacks.
3) Most black leaders in their communites today are too brainwashed and blinded to solve their own issues. Today I read a 1000-word article in the most popular local black newspaper about why our state has had an expolsion in black foster children, and needing adoption. Since the question "Why?" was in the byline, I carefully read the article to see if it said why this year so many hundreds more black children are in custody of our State. Well, the article gave sleep-inducing quotes from various officials and administrators for Institutes and agencies of the government. Some reasons given for children being taken away from parents: "weak economy ... parental drug abuse ... changes in state policies ... thousands of needy families losing their welfare benefits ... trying to balance the budget on backs of the poor ... services that lower-income people need to survive are being cut..." Nowhere was it ever mentioned about children being born to unwed uneducated unemployed fathers and unwed uneducated unemployed mothers. Nowhere was it mentioned the need to at least get high school education and a steady job and married BEFORE having children, or, if one mistake does occur, to not keep on having more children out of wedlock.
Indigo;"Allen, you railed against O'Reilly. If O'Reilly was black and said the same thing would you agree, as you did with Lemon?".
Yes and no... Context is key here Indigo. First off, Lemon and O'Reilly are not politicians, social activist's, or notable philosophical thinkers. They're "media personalities." The blacks who need Don Lemons advise probably don't even know who he is. The blacks that need O'Reilly's advise, if they do know of him they don't like him, and could care less what he has to say. However, the only reason "race" is key to this conversation is the fact that... read carefully; "BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RACE."
If the conversation was about "GENDER" and raising a boy to be a man, and a woman told you; "I think a woman could raise a boy to be a man just a good as any man", would you agree? I really don't think you would. You'd probably say that woman should "stick an egg in her ass and blow it out her ear."
The point here is "who is saying it and how they frame what they say." O'Reilly is not black. He has never lived around, within or even near a black community. Bear in mind he was the guy who went to Sylvia's restaurant with Al Sharpton and proclaimed, "there wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, M-ef Fer, I want more iced tea." I don't believe I've ever heard one black person say that about dining in a black owned restaurant. O'Reilly said it because he knows nothing about us.
Indigo;"If O'Reilly was black and said the same thing would you agree, as you did with Lemon?".
If you were a Bald Eagle you would have wings and could fly... but you're not, so stay focused down here on the ground...
O'Reilly and Lemon "were not" saying the same thing. O'Reilly's screed in the video is concentrated on what "HE" thinks and believes. He thinks "rappers, the entertainment industry, the CBC, Sharpton and Jackson" have some kind of control over black communities and blacks in general. If you were to combine every member of all the "Black" liberal and conservative organizations in the country, you would still only come up with less than 5 percent of Black Americans.
The leaders of the NAACP, the CBC, Sharpton, Jackson and every other prominent liberal you wish chastise, have children that are doing just fine. Jesse Jacksons children are educated and economically stable. The same goes for the children of the CBC, the NAACP and other prominent liberal figures.
Indigo;"Regardless of trends, USA is still majority white, including providers of jobs. It is unrealistic for blacks to just "solve our own issues".
UNREALISTIC????? Indigo, are you black? If you're not, I totally and completely understand why you would say such a thing. If you are black... NEGRO YOU MUST BE SICK, CRAZY AND OUT OF YOUR RABID-ASS MIND!!!
The last time blacks allowed others (ie; the government) to address our internal issues, we became semi-dependent on their handouts. Internal issues are always best solved INTERNALLY! That's not to say that outsiders can't "lend a helping hand." The idea of a group of people being independent doesn't mean you have to isolate or separate from the rest of American society.
There are several American "minority groups" who have formed communities that are stable and prosperous. Here in Detroit the Arab community which borders the black community lacks for nothing in businesses, schools and community outreach. There is no need to ask why, because the reason is apparent. THEY WORK TOGETHER! They support each other economically, socially, politically, educationally and spiritually. Their family's are stable because the entire community is stable. Their children are educated because the entire community educates their children. Every aspect of their community is centered around the prosperity of the entire community. Although they will hire from outside their community, they allow their family and friends opportunities first. And why allow those in the community to work in the community? BECAUSE THEY ARE PART OF THE COMMUNITY! They are your neighbors. Your neighbors children. Your friends! Your community...
I don't buy the idea that, "the breakdown of the black family caused the breakdown and dysfunction of the black community." That's bull-crap! It's actually the other way around. That's to say that, THE BREAKDOWN OF THE "BLACK COMMUNITY" CAUSED THE BREAKDOWN OF THE BLACK FAMILY!
Here in Detroit, in Arab communities, the Arab doctor lives next door to the Arab party store owner. The Arab lawyer lives on the same street as the Arab construction worker. The Arab elected official lives across the street from the Arab teacher. Their children go to school together. They worship at the same house of worship. They buy, sell and trade services from each other.
We as blacks don't have that type of community. We as blacks run away from each other when we believe we've "made it in America." We don't support ourselves economically-
From the NAACP website-
"First, we must stop the massive “leakage” of our money out of our communities. Currently, a dollar circulates in Asian communities for a month, in Jewish communities approximately 20 days and white communities 17 days. How long does a dollar circulate in the black community? 6 hours!".
We don't worship as a community- Detroit is the home of at least 10 mega churches (1000 members or more). But, there are countless (and I mean countless!) storefront churches in Detroit. Google map "Puritan Ave and Greenfield Road, Detroit, MI." Scroll the map eastward to Livernois Ave. I drive to and from work along Puritan. One day I decided to count the number of storefront and mid-size churches along Puritan. After crossing Greenfield I started counting. Before I got to Meyers Rd. (which is about a mile and a half) I had counted 20 churches. That's roughly 2 to 3 churches per block. The spiritual aspect of the black community is a "competition" for the Sunday dollar. The Mega Church preachers are basically rich celebrities.
We don't support a social order-
Every heard the expression "get out the ghetto?" That's the order of the day in many black communities. We thrive on the idea of leaving each other behind. The mindset in most black communities is not to look out for, care for and respect your neighbor, it's more-so being "leery and suspicious" of your neighbor.
We don't educate our children-
An education really starts at home. That's not to say that "homeschooling"is the best thing for black children. An education involves more than just what you might learn from a book. As a you boy and adolescent, I remember my friends and I sitting on the porch of an 85 year old neighbor we called "Peaboat." He would tell us stories about his days working construction and building projects in Detroit. He told us about the swastikas that were embedded on the Penobscot Building in Detroit. At the time I didn't know what a swastika was, and he explained the meaning and the history behind it. Peaboat, as with all the older folk, was a part of the social fabric of the community. Even though he had no more than a 3rd grade education, he was able to fill our minds with valued life's experiences.
As for the schools in the black communities... the schools are broken because the community is broken. A school is representative of the community, not the other way around. A school with high standards and high success rates, has children that can, will and do meet those standards. You can't take a group of kids who don't eat right, sleep right, don't study, and have no structured home life, and put them in an elite school like Cranbrook and expect them to do well. The community which attends the school, is what makes a school good or bad.
Hey Allen, I live in Detroit also. You wouldn't happen to be the same P. Allen that was an Ed. Tech. (Educational Technology Department) at Cooley High school, would you?
Brian Waller-
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