Race pimps and dead chimps part 1
I'm so sick and tired of listening to racially obsessed and oversensitive liberals always trying to make every issue about race. If people thought this sort of racial hysteria would have diminished once Obama was elected, they definitely thought wrong. Obama's Attorney General Eric Holder said that our nation are cowards for not talking about race. Eric Holder is not only wrong, but he is an out of touch putz. I'll go into greater detail on this fool at another time. I'm sure most people heard the news about the "controversial" comic strip that ran in the New York Post a few days ago. The comic strip was a political satire of the stimulus bill using the story of the chimp that was shot by the police as it's basis. The tag line of the comic read "I guess we have to find someone else to write the next stimulus bill". It didn't take long for oversensitive racial crybabies to put two plus two together to come up with twelve. Race hustlers and clueless blacks immediately condemned the cartoon as being "racist", because they felt the aim of the cartoon was at Obama. If these mental midgets would have done a little thing called "research", they would have discovered that Obama "didn't write" the stimulus bill, so it couldn't have been directed towards him. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi drafted or "WROTE" the bill. They're is another issue in regards to this story that hasn't and won't be addressed by the media or anyone else for that matter. The other issue is about the absolute cluelessness of people that don't know how a bill becomes law in this country. They're should be a story written about the ignorance of people that don't understand basic civics. Obama is the President and heads up the "Executive Branch" of the Federal Government. Presidents are responsible for signing bills into law, they don't "write" them. The is the job of the "Legislative Branch". In actuality, the chimp really symbolized Nancy Pelosi not Barack Obama. It didn't take long for America's favorite "jerry curl wearing, soul glow dripping, race hustling poverty pimp to make his way onto the scene, Al Sharpton immediately organized a protest of about fifteen supports to protest outside the headquarters of the New York Post. Since donations aka "bribes" to Sharpton's Action Committee have been drying up since Obama was elected, Al has jumped on the opportunity to "create a new cash cow" with the New Post being that cow.
When I saw the cartoon, I thought it was pretty funny. I think the "selective outrage" is of course massively deceptive in nature. This is what I mean. From 2000 to 2008, George Walker Bush was constantly called the name of a certain primate by liberals. He was called a "CHIMP". Even though the chimp cartoon wasn't about Obama, liberals don't like it when it is perceived that the "insults or attacks" are aimed at them.. They don't like it when a person they like is perceived as being targeted. We are witnessing that right now with their overreaction to this strip. These same people threw a hissy fit last year when the liberal leaning New Yorker magazine displayed a magazine cover of Obama and Michelle in a black radical fashion. Liberals are very thin skinned. They are good at dishing it out, but they need to practice on being able to take it. Funny how liberals that are so upset over this comic strip didn't protest Jesse Jackson when he called Obama a nigger not even a year ago. Now that I think about it, Al Sharpton himself even said that Obama wasn't "authentically" black or "black enough". How soon they forget. It was a black liberal editor from the Los Angeles Times by the name of David Ehrenstein that wrote the story about Obama entitled the "MAGIC NEGRO". These all are examples of Obama's authenticity being questioned by his fellow liberals. They're was no protests nor "outrage" over these racial attacks on Barack Obama. This is why I say this whole flack over the New York Post's cartoon has a lot to do about absolutely nothing. Give the oversensitive racial crybabies their bottles,and hopefully they will back to sleep and leave the rest of us alone.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 3:08 PM
24 Comments:
The cartoon was talking about the Congress not Obama. Race hustlers like Big Al keep the race issue afloat. Bush was referred to as a monkey many times and not one "Al"
said a word.
When the Muslims Arabs in Detroit made a cartoon of Dr. Rice as a black woman pregnant with monkeys, not one Black man said a word. The Muslim religion calls all Black women monkeys and STUPID and created black to be slaves to the white men.
Amazing how Mayor Dixon has been thrown under the bus by the Black men of fame in USA. Is Obama regressing to his Islamic roots re: how women are treated?
Off base again Tyrone...?
Satire alert!
You know, the "FIRST" thing that come's to mind when I think about the government spending massive amounts of money on social programs??
That's right...shooting a CHIMP!
Secondly, it would more than likely be... having 8 babies at one time to add to a total brood of 14!! The third thing would be to beat the hell of Rihanna.
Bernard L. Madoff, Bank Of America Super Bowl parties, AIG, CitiBank, Merrill Lynch, Wells Fargo's Las Vagas trips and multi million dollar golden parachutes... are the last thing that comes to mind when I think about the government doling out cash.
Seriously now, the comparison of Black people to apes is as old as America itself. Any one with common sense knows this. It's obvious that the NY Post, and the cartoonist knew such a depiction would spark a controversy.
more satire...
People and pets die of suffocation and hypothermia in automobiles often.
Before you click the link, lets say that the people in that auto were Binyamin and Leah Weisman, and the car was a 1939 Volkswagen. Two SS soldiers standing by, and the caption should read; "They'll have to find someone else to write the stimulus bill"!
Insensitive? Who me...never!! That depiction is clearly about government spending...nothing else, just government excess!
"When the Muslims Arabs in Detroit made a cartoon of Dr. Rice as a black woman pregnant with monkeys, not one Black man said a word."
Misinformation Anon...
The Palestinian Authority controlled publication, "Al Quds" published the picture. The Palestinian daily newspaper, Al Hayat Al Jadida went even further in the "racist" depictions. Read about it HERE.
I live in Detroit and can tell you such a depiction of "ANY" black person wouldn't go "peacefully" unnoticed by the Blacks here.
As far as Sharpton not saying anything about Dr. Rice being depicted as a "Chimp", I'm sure if he were asked he would call it the same.
However, there are still those who ask; "How come Al said nothing when Al Qud racially attacked Dr. Rice"? I can only say that if you can't figure it out, you really have no reason to ask...
anon "The cartoon was talking about the Congress not Obama. Race hustlers like Big Al keep the race issue afloat. Bush was referred to as a monkey many times and not one "Al"
said a word."
When Obama was elected, Al probably said, they're goes my meal ticket.With the election of Obama, it's harder for the race pimps to perform as "business as usual". I've heard the racist attack leveed against four of the GOP Governors from Congressman James Clyburn. Race is the only card they know how to play, yet fools fall for it almost every time. As for Mayor Dixon, I almost feel somewhat bad for her. She wasn't snubbed just once, but TWICE by Obama,lol. SInce I can't stand either one of them, I really can't go after Obama in this case. I do think it's pretty ironic that Obama is avoiding Dixon because of her indictment. Obama's own cabinet is far from squeaky clean itself. Obama just showed himself yet again to be a MASSIVE HYOCRITE in his snub of Dixon.
P Allen "You know, the "FIRST" thing that come's to mind when I think about the government spending massive amounts of money on social programs??That's right...shooting a CHIMP!"
Poor poor allen, humor is like art. It's all in the eyes of the beholder.Lets say the cartoonist would have used the Geico caveman instead of the chimp allen. Follow this for a moment. Let's say the cartoonist drew a comic strip of the Geico Cavemean writing the pork bill with the caption of the caveman saying "This bill was so easy to write even a caveman could have done it". Do you think nobody would have still thought that comic strip was in reference to Obama an still racist allen? Like I said before, people want to read into the comic what clearly wasn't there. People like you have race on the brain 24/7. I'm surprised you are able to actually sleep at night.
p allen"
Bernard L. Madoff, Bank Of America Super Bowl parties, AIG, CitiBank, Merrill Lynch, Wells Fargo's Las Vagas trips and multi million dollar golden parachutes... are the last thing that comes to mind when I think about the government doling out cash."
When you get a job as a comic writer, you can then write about them allen. The cartoonist drew the strip based on what he thought was important and funny at that time. For those who didn't like the strip. they're were many more that did allen. That's just life allen.
p allen "As far as Sharpton not saying anything about Dr. Rice being depicted as a "Chimp", I'm sure if he were asked he would call it the same."
Now you're fooling yourself again allen.Sharpton is a hardcore liberal. Like I said in my story, Liberals only get offended when the attacks are against them.
P Allen "Seriously now, the comparison of Black people to apes is as old as America itself. Any one with common sense knows this. It's obvious that the NY Post, and the cartoonist knew such a depiction would spark a controversy."
Here's the difference yet again allen. Obama DIDN'T WRITE the bill. In order to come up with the proper equation, you must first have the correct variables to make it happen. The variable that doesn't make the equation correct comes down to PELOSI writing the bill. You can try to change the variable to a "what if", but it doesn't work.
P Allen "I live in Detroit and can tell you such a depiction of "ANY" black person wouldn't go "peacefully" unnoticed by the Blacks here"
One would think living in an apocalyptic city such as Detroit would be enough to turn the most die hard liberal conservative. Liberalism has destroyed that city just like it has done Baltimore. When will you see the light Allen?!!!lol
P Allen "Before you click the link, lets say that the people in that auto were Binyamin and Leah Weisman, and the car was a 1939 Volkswagen. Two SS soldiers standing by, and the caption should read; "They'll have to find someone else to write the stimulus bill"!"
I swear I'm going to call you Mr. Elastic allen. You can stretch with the best of them. In your "scenario", you're equation based on it is FLAWED BEYOND BELIEF!! Let's start with the original cartoon. First off, anybody with common sense knows that a chimp didn't write the pork bill. Second off, anybody with common sense knows that Obama didn't write the pork bill. Third off, anybody with common sense and is informed knows that A CHIMP WAS ACTUALLY SHOT BY POLICE IN "REAL LIFE". The cartoon was a mixer of 2 REAL events, one was political and the other was non political. It's as simple as it's stated allen.
Let's take your scenario for a second allen. What was the intelligence of Inymin and Leah Meisma? If they were smart people, they more then likely wouldn't have WRITTEN that bill or assumed the person of equal intelligence wouldn't have either. Second off, the cartoon wouldn't have made any sense because the person that wrote the bill WASN'T JEWISH. Nancy Pelosi isn't Jewish allen and neither is Obama. So you're scenario is flawed beyond making sense. I'll give you an E for effort though. The cartoon couldn't be thought of as being anti semitic beyond the cartoon itself allen, that is what you can't see in your own example.
inyamin and Leah Weisma
CB;"The cartoon couldn't be thought of as being anti semitic beyond the cartoon itself allen, that is what you can't see in your own example."
Who said anything about "anti-semitism"? I never mentioned anything about Jews nor anti-semitism. Why do you think I was being anti-Semitic?
The scenario I had in mind was about a Black American couple. I never thought for one second about a "Jewish" person. Are you implying Black people should not have Jewish sounding names?
I have a student by the name of Benyamin Goldsmith. Ben is Black. In college I dated a girl named Leah Pinman, she is Black. Neither on of them are Jewish, they simply have "Jewish" sounding names.
CB;"Here's the difference yet again allen. Obama DIDN'T WRITE the bill."
More right-wing talking points?? Boy oh boy Tyrone, does the FOX News have your private fax number or what???? Who "wrote" the bill doesn't matter when the impetus for the bill is from the president (being that it's the congress who authors bills)
Suddenly, it's "NOT OBAMA'S BILL"? The defenders of News Corp are hard at work to "clean-up" their racist stink-pile! For weeks "YOU", like every other right-winger, called it OBAMA'S BILL!!!!
HEADLINE: Conservative Brother Now Believes "It's Not Obama's Bill"!
Scare tactics we can believe in? Obama tries to frighten up support for his trojan stimulus bill.
2-10-09
The CEO of Caterpillar embarasses Mr. Obama on his porkulus bill.
2-13-09
Wallstreet gives it's stamp of disapproval to Obama's junkilus bill.
2-17-09
RNC Chairman Michael Steele had to explain the difference between a "job" and a "government work project" like the ones Obama wants to create with his pork bill.
2-10-09
Although its cartoon humor, Mr. Delonas is well aware of how to "strike a nerve" while invoking humor. I seriously doubt he had Nancy Pelosi on his mind when he drew the cartoon. In doing a bit of research on Sean Delonas' work, you will find he can be quite insensitive at times as seen here.
I wonder where all these Compassionate "Liberals" were when the sleazy racist assaults on Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, Mike Steele, etc. were being staged...oops, I forgot- you're not really Black unless you're a gangbanger, rapper, Leftist, and all the other mandatory items listed in the "Liberal" encyclopedia of what defines the races.
And the Left wants us to think they are not prejudiced...
I completely missed this one. I guess I was having too much fun reuniting with friends from college, some I have not seen in 20-30 years.
If people really thought this was a slam against Obama because he wrote the bill we are really in trouble. If people do not know the basics of how our government works they have no real way to intelligently engage in discourse. People may not know all the ins and outs of the process BUT if they vote they should at least know the different branches of government and how each impact the nation.
The first I heard about this was yesterday when someone in Facebook said that they joined a group to boycott the New York Post. I thought 'have mercy'.
When did Barack Obama write the stimulus bill?
Oh yeah, he DIDN'T!
That would Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Barney Frank, Charlie Rangel, Chris Dodd, etc. ...Congress wrote that Bill.
In FACT, President Obama looked for some alterations to the Bill and was publically and gruffly rebuffed by Barney Frank.
Was a pork-fest posing as a stimulus package "so dumb a face-eating monkey could write it?"
You betcha.
The ONLY thing insensitive about this cartoon is that it made light of a horrific incident that landed one woman in the ICU, in very critical condition.
Only someone severely impaired would see the chimp in this cartoon representing Barack Obama...if HE wrote the Bill, yeah.
But AGAIN, he DIDN'T....Congress did.....so, in effect, Congress is the chimp in this cartoon.
Why are liberals so dumb?
"The impetus for the bill is from the president"????
Nope.
This very same (Pelosi-Reid) Congress wrote the ill-fated stimulus bill of February 2008 (all those $600 checks that failed to stimulate spending)...they authored the October bank bailout bill, as well....all WITHOUT any outside impetus.
Congress controls amd writes the budget, tax policy, etc., the POTUS merely signs on, or, in cases of deep disagreements, vetos that Congressional budget.
Ironically enough, the very day this cartoon came out, Barack Obama tried to get them to modify the Bill and was rebuffed by a very vociferous Barney Frank.
P. Allen:
Sorry in Detroit the Arabs entertained John"reparations" Conyers at the play teaching Muslim kids how to behead non-Muslims and defame America. I guess you didnt know that about Detroit. Muslim banks wont hire non-Muslims in Detroit. The cartoon was issued for the Arab Muslim Palestianians to make fun of black women. I dont care what political party she is the cartoon was from the thought of allah aka Muhammad who lived in the 7th century. You need to read!
THE DEMOCRATS KNEW WHO TO USE TO GET OVER BY USING A HALF WHITE MAN TO DO ANYTHING THEY WANT. tHEY KNEW ANYTHING THAT ONE DOES IT'S RACIST. MOST BLACKS ARE SICK AND TIRED OF THIS CRAP.
Toa;"And the Left wants us to think they are not prejudiced..."
No...Everyone wants to "say" they're not prejudice. The fact is many people (on both sides) are!
I like Micheal Steele, I just don't agree with some of his politics. On the other hand I'm not a fan of Clarence Thomas. In my opinion he's an ass-kissing phoney. The same goes for Alan Keyes!
Obama himself used controversial remarks during the campaign. controversial remarks
The fact is the chimp mauling the friend of it's owner was played in the media heavily so it's not surprising someone used it in a political cartoon. Recent news sells and recent cartoons are part of selling papers.
One thing that concerns me is what P. Anthony posted as part of his comment: "I live in Detroit and can tell you such a depiction of "ANY" black person wouldn't go "peacefully" unnoticed by the Blacks here.
What it sounds like P. Anthony is saying is that many blacks in Detroit use intimidation as a tool for political gain. Perfect just the crowd Al Sharpton likes to use to stay in business.
Just what America does not need are angry mobs running around tearing America apart. No wonder the enemies of America exploit racism as a tool in her destruction.
The cartoon is just a political satire... Al Sharpton should have called the paper in private said he was keeping this one under wraps but, wanted to know the intent? If he was not satisfied he then could have gave them a personal warning.
Obviously that would not have served his end game. His game is to pimp race to stay in the public eye. It's business as usual for Al.
Arlen Spector, Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe are proven Rino's and not conservatives at all
P. Allen, you make a true point. I know that folks on the Left are not "all the same" (which would be bigotted on my part), but referred to the loud-mouthed Hollywood/Manhatten elitist types and professional race-hustlers who claim to be the spokesmen for all Blacks, when in fact they are not.
p allen "Who said anything about "anti-semitism"? I never mentioned anything about Jews nor anti-semitism. Why do you think I was being anti-Semitic?"
Actually I thought you scenario might have had something to do with jews of the SS soldiers you mentioned.
P Allen "I have a student by the name of Benyamin Goldsmith. Ben is Black. In college I dated a girl named Leah Pinman, she is Black. Neither on of them are Jewish, they simply have "Jewish" sounding names."
My mistake once again. It's very rare when I make them, but I fess up when I do allen.
P Allen "More right-wing talking points?? Boy oh boy Tyrone, does the FOX News have your private fax number or what???? Who "wrote" the bill doesn't matter when the impetus for the bill is from the president (being that it's the congress who authors bills)"
So you are telling me allen that Obama wrote the stimulus bill? Do you want to place a friendly financial wager on that allen? That will be the ultimate can't lose bet I've ever placed in my life. You are proving my theory about liberals not knowing civics allen. Maybe I should make this bet for $500 dollars, I can use a new laptop :-)lol
I hate to break it to you allen, but the vest right wing conspiracy didn't make the facts in this case. As for Fox News, they don't have my FAX number allen. They have my personal cell number, so there allen. lol You think I'm pure venom towards the left now, I would be 10 times worse if I was a political pundit for Fox News.
p allen "Suddenly, it's "NOT OBAMA'S BILL"? The defenders of News Corp are hard at work to "clean-up" their racist stink-pile! For weeks "YOU", like every other right-winger, called it OBAMA'S BILL!!!!
It's Obama's bill, because he endorsed it's passage as the President Allen. Don't play cute allen, you know this. It still doesn't change the fact I he DIDN'T WRITE IT allen. Keep digging, you are almost to China.
p allen "RNC Chairman Michael Steele had to explain the difference between a "job" and a "government work project" like the ones Obama wants to create with his pork bill."
Steele did an excellent job in explaing the core differences between the two also allen. It wasn't expected for liberals to understand it though. Like he said, work projects have a finish date. A job doesn't have definitive finish date. This is what we call 2+2=4 allen.
p allen "
HEADLINE: Conservative Brother Now Believes "It's Not Obama's Bill"!"
I can write a video game for Electronic Arts and give it to them. When they sell it, their name will be on the box and in the game. Eventhough E.A will market the game as theirs, it still won't change the fact that it was an individual "THAT WROTE OR DESIGNED THE VIDEO" Allen.
p allen "Although its cartoon humor, Mr. Delonas is well aware of how to "strike a nerve" while invoking humor. I seriously doubt he had Nancy Pelosi on his mind when he drew the cartoon. In doing a bit of research on Sean Delonas' work, you will find he can be quite insensitive at times as seen here."
p allen "Although its cartoon humor, Mr. Delonas is well aware of how to "strike a nerve" while invoking humor. I seriously doubt he had Nancy Pelosi on his mind when he drew the cartoon. In doing a bit of research on Sean Delonas' work, you will find he can be quite insensitive at times as seen here."
Once again allen, you are "amusing" what Mr. Delonas intentions was. After I saw the non existent outrage over the cartoon that Ted Rall did about Condi Rice, I seriously wonder would I care even if the cartoon was intended for Obama. As I said before, Obama claimed ownership of the bill when he endorsed it as President all.
Toa "I wonder where all these Compassionate "Liberals" were when the sleazy racist assaults on Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, Mike Steele, etc. were being staged...oops, I forgot- you're not really Black unless you're a gangbanger, rapper, Leftist, and all the other mandatory items listed in the "Liberal" encyclopedia of what defines the races."
You bring up an excellent point Toa. If Obama was a conservative, you and I know that the same people that claim the cartoon is "racist" now would have thought it was "funny" if Obama was a conservative or Republican. It all comes back to "selective outrage" and how "two faced" they are.
Toa "And the Left wants us to think they are not prejudiced..."
lol, they can only pull that con job off among themselves Toa. Their actions and deeds contradict them ever single time.
pamela "If people really thought this was a slam against Obama because he wrote the bill we are really in trouble. If people do not know the basics of how our government works they have no real way to intelligently engage in discourse. People may not know all the ins and outs of the process BUT if they vote they should at least know the different branches of government and how each impact the nation."
What you said Pamela is the REAL STORY that isn't being reported. This isnt an issue about racism. It's an issue about the sheer ignorance of the American electorate. Most of these mindless sheep more then likely don't even know who's their representative is in congress or their governor is of their state. All these lemmings see is race, race, race 24/7. I wonder could it be classified as "racial paranoia"? If a person had to have a basic understanding of how government works the Democrat Party would be out of power for more then 50 years no question or doubt about it. Pamela, we witnessed this with the lack of knowledge Obamatrons had not knowing anything about Obama.
I thought the cartoon was funny and I think people are overreacting to the nonexistent racism. The cartoon isn't racist when you understand the context.
I said; "The impetus for the bill is from the president"
JMK says;"Nope.
This very same (Pelosi-Reid) Congress wrote the ill-fated stimulus bill of February 2008 (all those $600 checks that failed to stimulate, etc...(continues with more of your meaningless, off contextual topic, anal retentive chatter and babbling...)"
impetus
Function: noun
1 a (1): a driving force : impulse (2): incentive , stimulus b: stimulation or encouragement resulting in increased activity
That's the meaning of the word "IMPETUS" JMK.
Over the last few weeks President Obama has caused;
"stimulation or encouragement resulting in increased activity"
by the congress to pass the Stimulus Bill. If you read the entire sentence, you will see that what I'm saying is no more than what Tyrone has wrote in each essay about the Stimulus Bill. That is, "IT'S OBAMA's BILL"!!! The president wants this legislation. He's been pushing congress to pass it since he took office a few weeks ago!
Yet, when I simply "NOTE" what the president has done, you jump start your pigheaded attack mode (in a futile attempt), to prove ole' PAA wrong. It's quite typical of how you exaggerate the context of my statement, and then follow it up with an anal retentive diatribe in an attempt to show your own worth or importance.
I seem to remember an occasion when you posted and "CHANGED" a word or two from Merriam-Websters "on-line" Dictionary to support a "LIE" you had told. I suspect that you will attempt the same or something similar, seeing that you don't take it well when your pompous arrogance is exposed.
I don't need a long drawn out prolonged discourse congressional procedure outlining who did what and when. Don't even waste your time if that's what you're going to give. Just admit you're wrong and we can move on from there. If Tyrone can do it, you can too.
CB;"So you are telling me allen that Obama wrote the stimulus bill? Do you want to place a friendly financial wager on that allen? That will be the ultimate can't lose bet I've ever placed in my life. You are proving my theory about liberals not knowing civics allen."
UUhhhhh...read the post again Tyrone. I had already said that; (being that it's the congress who authors bills)
Nothing in my post implies that Obama wrote the bill....nothing.
CB;My mistake once again. It's very rare when I make them, but I fess up when I do allen.
I'm not keeping track Tyrone, but this is definitely a "fess-up" moment.
It's not vocabulary, that's the issue here, apparently it's very recent history.
President Obama was NOT the impetus/driving force behind the current stimulus Bill.
This SAME Congress passed the ill-conceived stimuls Bill of February of 2008 (doling out all those $600 checks), they authored the bank bailout bill of October 2008...AND they authored this one as well.
President Obama signed onto the Bill, after having sought to get parts amended and being rebuffed.
Congress wouldn't flatly rebuff is "driving force", would it?
So, Barack Obama was NOT the impetus behind this Bill. This is Congress' Bill.
Who wrote it?
The (dead chimp) Congress, perhaps?
Who'll they get to write the next one?
JMK;"President Obama signed onto the Bill, after having sought to get parts amended and being rebuffed.
Congress wouldn't flatly rebuff is "driving force", would it?"
That statement makes absolutely no sense! President's and congress's "rebuff" one another all the time. Hell, not one House Republican voted for the bill. If that's not a "rebuff" you don't know what one is! Although, in this instance, it's not like they're being lied to (like Bush lied about Iraq).
JMK;"This is Congress' Bill.
Typical, and no more than the expected response. I'm not going to argue over semantics...my assertion is correct, and I stand by it.
BTW, one more thing....You'll need to advise Tyrone not to refer to the legislation as "Obama's Bill", particularly as a title to his essays. He seems to be more confused than I am.
"President's and congress's "rebuff" one another all the time." (PAA)
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No they DO NOT!
Obama was gruffly rebuffed by Barney Frank, when he sought to get parts of that Bill modified.
Congres is usually far more cordial AND collegial with a President from their own Party!
"President's and congress's "rebuff" one another all the time." (PAA)
JMK;"No they DO NOT!"
You know JMK, it's funny that you would use the word "rebuff." All I needed to do was "Google" the word along with a presidents name (any president) and it came up with thousands of "rebuffed" proposals.
Like This
and This
and This
and This
and This
Start your wordplay spinning!
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