Saturday, November 14, 2009

Time to Be Heard: Glenn Beck's black conservative summit Part 1

Since I haven't written any "black" stories in awhile, I decided to make this one my quota for the month. A received an email several weeks ago about possibly being a participant on the Glen Beck show on the topic of Black Conservatism in America. I had a previous engagement for the day that show was to be taped and I couldn't change it. Even if I was free to have attended, I'm not really sure I would have went. I'll tell you all why at a later time. Glenn Beck's show was called "Time to Be Heard". His audience and panel were made up of black conservatives and some pseudo conservatives. It was a very interesting segment, I believe you all will find it worth the view.



In the first segment, Glenn Beck and Fox Business reporter and commentator Charles Payne toured the neighborhood where Charles grew up. The segment was enlightening about what Charles had to endore simply for doing the right thing. This is what bugged my about Charles and some of the black so called conservatives though. They admitted voting for Barack Obama. Now that I think about it, it was a good thing I wasn't in attendance. People know that a sniff out a hypocrites a mile away. Black so called conservatives who pulled the lever for Barack Obama and are now criticizing him lack a lot of credibility to even call themselves conservatives. I don't believe I've ever ripped on black conservatives since I created this blog over five years ago. I need to correct myself, I did rip on Michael Steele frequently and still do. As an American of African descent, it never dawned on me for one nanosecond to even consider voting for Barack Obama, and here's why that is. Barack Obama came onto the national scene at the Democrat National Convention in 2004. The only thing that separated Obama from other hard left liberals was the color of his skin. As the election drew near, more and more details on the upbringing and radical associations of Obama came to light. These black conservatives as well as I knew this. They can't say that they went into the voting booth not knowing who Barack Obama truly was and what his intentions as president was going to be if he won. So when these same black conservatives criticize Obama, I have to give a sarcastic stare. I knew how Obama was going to govern, because I knew about his background and ideological views. I wasn't going to be two faced by voting for Barack Obama and then criticise him on how he's governing. I didn't check my conservatism outside of the voting booth on November 4th. I got asked a question a few weeks after the election here in Baltimore. I was asked by a black male who knows I'm a conservative whether I voted for Obama or McCain. I told him I voted for McCain. He asked me "where was my pride"? Being the sarcastic analytical wise ass that I'm, I turned the question around on him. I asked him who did he vote for in the U.S Senate race between Michael Steele and Ben Cardin. He told me Ben Cardin. So I asked him "where was his pride in not voting for a black man to become the first U.S Senator from our state of Maryland"? I didn't care so much about the pride issue, I just turned it on him to show how much of a hypocrite he was. I voted for Michael Steele, because his politics were way more in line with mines then Cardin. In other words, I voted for the "man" not his "skin". If Obama destroys our country by signing in some of the most radical legislation to be taken up in congress in decades if not ever, I can look myself in the mirror as a paleo-conservative and say that "I didn't check my principals at the door and voted for him to make it happen".

19 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with the real Americans. Why cant we be what we want. Obama became what his parents on the white side want and his friends. You Tube has Obama putting the bible down, the constituion down and America down. Why did he become a President of America. He should have run for King of the world.

1:16 PM  
Blogger Almondtea said...

You know CB I found Obama to be a villain that is why I never voted for him. His stance on issues were so appalling to me that I couldn't in good conscience vote for him.

I saw voting for Obama to be the equivalent to selling my soul to the devil. Sorry I can't vote for a man who hates this nation and ridicules my faith as well as showing absolute disdain for unborn babies.

No the fact that Obama is black doesn't make his views any less appalling to me!

2:55 PM  
Blogger conservative brother said...

Anon :You Tube has Obama putting the bible down, the constituion down and America down. Why did he become a President of America."

When people who are blinded by stupidity and ignorance have the power to vote, that is how people like Obama get elected.

anon "He should have run for King of the world."

lol, it's bad enough Obama is ruining in America. If he was king of the world, there would be no place to go for sure.

3:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

True, but we still must fight. Many blacks I talk too are either too ashame or too dumb or too naive to know or care what is happening right in front of them.

One just told me about an elderly woman who died because they would not give her an operation to save her life at 62.

Not one I have talked to knows what Sharia Law is, not even Black Muslims except ex-Muslims.

When I told them about the two Muslims women who want Sharia law they were horrified. When I showed them slavery, cutting off the right hand and left foot, cutting out vaginas, stoning of women and men go free, castrating of non-Muslims, even the Muslims felt shame and angry. The black ones had been lied to and took off the hijab. I am not God, so I cannot read the mind, but then neither can Satan allah. Job tells us that. The Under ground railroad is up and runnning, saving slaves from Sharia right here in America where the railroad was started to stop slavery from the Dems. called KKK and NAZIS.

hITLER LEARNED ABOUT iSLAM IN THE
1920s, became a muslims, and wrote Mein Kamph or in English my JIHAD or My struggle in Arabic.

Ghandi was in love with Hitler and wrote letter to him of admiration. He was overwhelmed with Muslims in India and although he was a Hindu, he was not in charge. control of his educational skills and India was controlled by slavers called Muslims who called them kafirs and he took this title to the Zulus in South Africa and helped fight the British. Indians are finally allowing us to know because the Muslims are BACK killing them.

4:28 PM  
Blogger J said...

"Black so-called conservatives who pulled the lever for Barack Obama and are now criticizing him lack a lot of credibility to even call themselves conservatives"

I feel you. I myself (being black) thought about voting for him for symbolic reasons but I figured I always voted my principles and wouldn't stop just because he happened to be half black. I lost a lot of respect for Charles Payne after hearing his reasoning for voting for Barack Obama. Payne works for Fox News, heard about Jeremiah Wright, Ayers and all of his policies. When you've got all of that investigative journalism going on at Fox News and you work there, there's simply not much of an excuse.

5:21 PM  
Blogger conservative brother said...

almondtea "You know CB I found Obama to be a villain that is why I never voted for him. His stance on issues were so appalling to me that I couldn't in good conscience vote for him."

That is exactly how I feel almondtea. If I voted for Obama, how could I then say that my core beliefs have any importance to me if I could so easily toss them aside just the for sake of Obama's skin.

almondtea "I saw voting for Obama to be the equivalent to selling my soul to the devil. Sorry I can't vote for a man who hates this nation and ridicules my faith as well as showing absolute disdain for unborn babies."

When I found out that Obama support infanticide when he was a state senator in Illinois, I knew then and there that there would no way in hell I could vote for that man just on moral grounds alone. Principled people are suppose to stand for certain things. I heard the lame excuses by some black conservatives and republicans saying that they voted for Obama out of pride. So I would like to ask these black conservatives are they "proud" that Obama has caused so much damage since he was sworn in. It's great that I can get a good night sleep knowing that none of it is on my hands. I guess there are two types of conservatives almondtea. We have the surface conservatives. Those conservatives say they are conservatives, but don't have the desire to stand up for conservatism. Then we have the principled conservatives. These conservatives like you, me and many others won't sell out what makes us who we are for anything. The same way Newt Gingrich is a sellout to conservatism. We have black conservatives that are in the same camp he is almondtea.

8:04 PM  
Blogger conservative brother said...

J "I feel you. I myself (being black) thought about voting for him for symbolic reasons but I figured I always voted my principles and wouldn't stop just because he happened to be half black. I lost a lot of respect for Charles Payne after hearing his reasoning for voting for Barack Obama."

Welcome aboard J. I like Charles. I believe the guy has the mind for finance and business. I don't have much respect for him either J. It does pain me to say it. Obama is a flat out anti capitalist. So many young black entrepreneurs foolishly believe Obama gives a dam about them and is going to help them. It sickened me to my stomach how black folks in Detroit reacted just because Obama gave them the equivalent of financial crumbs. Charles Payne claims he is a free market capitalist, so why would he pull the lever for a person that went against everything he claimed to stand for? If Charles Payne truly believed his own talk, he would have done the right thing.


J "Payne works for Fox News, heard about Jeremiah Wright, Ayers and all of his policies. When you've got all of that investigative journalism going on at Fox News and you work there, there's simply not much of an excuse."

EXACTLY!! EXACTLY!!! The black conservatives that were on Glenn's show that admitted voting for Barack Obama also more then likely watch Fox News and knew the same information as Charles Paynes. Either the Obama voting black conservatives were A) gullible into believing Obama was going to be different then he past suggested or B) They are shallow Conservatives In Name Only. That is really their only two choices.

8:16 PM  
Blogger Frank A. Dupree said...

CB said: Either the Obama voting black conservatives were A) gullible into believing Obama was going to be different then he past suggested or B) They are shallow Conservatives In Name Only.

After having watched that episode, I admit that I lost some respect for Charles Payne. My wife and I surmised that maybe, just maybe, the conservatives on the show voted for Obama just because he was black. You know - the whole wanting to see a black man in office in our lifetime schpeel. I didn't vote for Obama.

3:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ty
Some of them did vote to make history and because Obama came from the arab owned university named Harvard. Some did out of a sense of loyalty as Colin Powell did although he knew he was influenced by Islamic ways and Sharia. Notice how they dont go to live under Islam.

Eric Holder is also under the influence of Islam. My teachers asked Eric on 9-1709 for protection from moderate Muslims who threatened to kill them for exposing them and leaving the faith when allah said in quran 8:39 that anyone who leaves Islam are to be killed by other muslims. They have not heard from him or Obama. Look under 'lETTER TO aTTORNEY gENERAL eRIC hOLDER".

tHE ENTIRE iSLAMIC WORLD IS LAUGHING AT US FOR BEING SUCH FOOLS.

The African Iraqis are asking for help and thought they would be allowed to vote and freed from slavery, but when ObAma bowed down to the HMIC, the Arab Shia and Sunnis laughed at them at told them go back to work Africaca. It is humilitating.

The man is telling us that he will take us back to slavery and have slave armues to defeat us--our children UM UM UMMMMMMMMMM.

See a real live ex-slave of 2009. Simon Deng who escaped with the help of JEWS of Israelis and Christians at age 14 after 7 years of sleeping with the animals because the Arabs said he was an animal, like Darwin.

Allen this is why I asked for help.

10:44 AM  
Blogger p. anthony allen said...

CB;"I voted for Michael Steele, because his politics were way more in line with mines then Cardin. In other words, I voted for the "man" not his "skin".

You know something Tyrone... had Steele ran for president and got the nomination to run against Barack Obama, I would have voted for Steele. Although I don't agree with all of his views, I see him as smart and moderate politician.

In one segment Charles Payne stated he was picked on for "acting White." First off, what is "acting White." Sure I've heard the term used by some Blacks, but I've asked then also, what does it mean.

I was told once that it means that "a black person who thinks he's better than other blacks." My question then was, "so you think whites are better than blacks???"

The term "acting white" is a silly misnomer.

I agree with the gentleman (Richard Fair)that said Payne while growing up must have appeared "weak" or "punk-ish" to the other kids in his neighborhood. He just didn't explain himself clearly.

I've worked with kids 8 hours a day 5 days a week for twenty-plus years. There are kids who get good grades, dress differently from other kids, do all the right things and some you could even call "nerds" and have no problems with other kids. It comes down to how the kid carries himself, and his or her own self esteem.

If the other kids see you as who you really are be it white, black, nerd, silly, fat, ugly, gay or whatever, and you're secure and confident with your own personality, you will get along fine. And in many cases become one of the so-called "popular" kids.

I also agree with Mr. Fair in that, those Black conservatives are in essence playing the "victim card" by accusing "most or all" liberal blacks of seeing them as "uncle-toms" and sell outs. Although I do see Black conservatives as "mis-guided" in the conservative movement, I don't see them as "uncle toms" and sell-outs.

It's sort of like an extremely gifted baseball pitcher with a lighting fast-ball and a quick throwing arm. Yet he chooses not to pitch because he thinks being a catcher is more "conservative" and conducive to throwing out a base stealer. Hell, as an great pitcher he still can throw out a base stealer from the mound, he just needs a little "guidance" as to where he can help the team the most.

There are some great "IDEOLOGICALLY" Black conservative minds in America. Yet there is a need for that ideology to be based in solving the problems we have as Blacks in America.

Here's the rub...

You label yourselves as "Black Conservatives." WHY? I'll tell you why. Because you do realize that there is a difference that is distinct from "White" America. If the reality was that there was no difference, you wouldn't have A "National Black Republicans, Project 21, Black Conservatives" and seen only Black face's in Becks audience for that broadcast.

The smart minds of the Black conservatives, liberals, libertarians, independents, socialist, racialist, religious and who ever, need to get together and workout a plan for Black economic building and stability, united Black political direction, Black spiritual and educational solutions.

2:31 PM  
Blogger p. anthony allen said...

Anon;"Allen this is why I asked for help".

Fine... Just don't ask for mine..

4:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

aLLENcousin Allen Thanks. Believe me, I will still fight to protect you as many black women had to sex masters to keep theie boys and men safe. Black women still get no respect even from their own men. You are still a black man born from some black woman and as a respect for ther 9 nomths, I will defend her. OK

Now I see whay most of the underground runners were black women!

10:20 PM  
Blogger Frank A. Dupree said...

Allen said: You label yourselves as "Black Conservatives." WHY? I'll tell you why. Because you do realize that there is a difference that is distinct from "White" America. If the reality was that there was no difference, you wouldn't have A "National Black Republicans, Project 21, Black Conservatives" and seen only Black face's in Becks audience for that broadcast.

We don't label ourselves, Allen. The media and liberals have coined the term. As far as I'm concerned, there is no difference between me and other conservative men - be they black, white, hispanic or asian. The reason for the distinction comes from liberals and progressives trying to paint the Republican Party and Conservatives as a "racist, white-only" group.

Allen, you are aware that none of the Senate Committees is chaired by a black democrat out of 25. Out of the 20 committees in the House (excluding the joint committees), black democrats chair 4.

It's not just blacks who need to get together to work out a better economic plan for blacks, it's everyone. We all need to get the best out of what God gave us.

3:11 AM  
Blogger p. anthony allen said...

Frank;"Allen, you are aware that none of the Senate Committees is chaired by a black democrat out of 25".

Frank, you are aware that presently, there is only "ONE" Black U.S. Senator? A junior senator hardly, if ever, is elected Chairman of a committee.

6:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The republican conservative wing is full of bigots and what make u think mccain would be any different lol

democrats and republicans are the same except that democrats have 3 wings and republicans have just one

11:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with the real Americans. Why cant we be what we want.

You Tube has Obama putting the bible down, the constituion down and America down. Why did he become a President of America.

^^celph says LMAO...lol are u serious? this isnt a religous ran country. and i wish obama sworn in on the Koran or any other religous book.


CB SAYS
lol, it's bad enough Obama is ruining in America. If he was king of the world, there would be no place to go for sure.

RE: nobody is ruining America, its people with shallow minds like you who ruin and separates America u must have been asleep.

SOME IDIOT SAYS
Not one I have talked to knows what Sharia Law is, not even Black Muslims except ex-Muslims.

re: And that response means what, Sharia law isn't used everywhere.who cares, the fear factor your using is pointless, and sharia law is not usable in the States.

a crazy conservative said:
hITLER LEARNED ABOUT iSLAM IN THE
1920s, became a muslims, and wrote Mein Kamph or in English my JIHAD or My struggle in Arabic.

RE: LOL


Payne works for Fox News, heard about Jeremiah Wright, Ayers and all of his policies.

RE: So u think its perfectly fine for americans to terrorize other countries and disrupt goverments install dictators, put people in concentration camps, burn peoples villages?

We don't label ourselves, Allen. The media and liberals have coined the term. As far as I'm concerned, there is no difference between me and other conservative men - be they black, white, hispanic or asian.

RE:the media who's the media, so your telling me that u do not call yourself a conservative, and that others do it for you lol.

"The reason for the distinction comes from liberals and progressives trying to paint the Republican Party and Conservatives as a "racist, white-only" group"

RE: again this is B.S and these labels have been around for quite some time these arent new. the republican party is basically an old white southern party. isnt it ironic that the south has become republican(CONSERVATIVE) in the last 30yrs. black people used to be republican, republicans were mostly progressive, REPUBLICANS have no conservative history/roots SOUTHERN democrats have that.

Allen, you are aware that none of the Senate Committees is chaired by a black democrat out of 25. Out of the 20 committees in the House (excluding the joint committees), black democrats chair 4.

RE: ask yourself how many black republicans been elected to anything after the 1930's

MY NAME IS CELPH

9:39 PM  
Blogger joey perez said...

Tyrone I went back to take a look at this posting and well said sir. I had the same issue with one of my friends. She claimed that she would not vote for McCain/Palin because Palin would be a heart beat away from the Presidency but she did not have the experience. I turned it around on her and asked her about Obama's experience and she had no more to say. If Obama had been a Caucasian I am sure that she would not have voted for him. As you state in your posting the only thing that set him apart was the color of his skin. So many got caught up in the historic and first Black President thing that they set aside their views just as those so called conservatives on the Glen Beck show did. Keep up the good work.

10:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous:
Great start. First,America is not a religiously run nation and I am glad. Obama wants it to be an Islamomarxist nation and then they will kill each other for power. Obama made that statement and I commented. America was founded on Judeo-Christian principles not Islam or Marxism.
2.Sharia Law is all over the world. African Iraqis are in America telling us the evils of sharia in Iraq. They are still slaves, she escaped. Under Sharia only black will be slaves unless they are non-muslims. Sharia is islam.

3. Hitler loved Islam and hated Christians Look it up and Mein Kamph mean My jihad from Islam. 9-11 was a jihad. In Sweden and Norway Muslim are now doing a sex jihad and a rape jihad. Hasan did his jhad.
Look up African Iraqi and Obama.
I can prove everything I write ok.

4.Americans should just allow other nations to live in misery, no medicine or anything. The African Muslims in Sudan are asking why Arabs cannot help them instead of killing them. Arab Muslims tell them it is allah's will they sufffer, afterall, allah made you black and gorilla like and nappy haired and pug nosed for slavery and hellfire. Tabari 1:280
Tabari 11:11-26.
Black men wont get the 72 big breasted white women and 28 white boys if they kill a Baptist or Jew, just hellfire loooooooool.

Black leaders were not elected due to the DEMS buying their vote. Welfare, free this and free that. The man had to leave the house under the DEMS.

Obama has two white Muslims trying to bring Sharia Law to America and he says nothing about what it is. Michelle will be Michelle 1, then 2,3,4 with concubines, His girls will have to get their vaginas cut out or FGM from East African witchcraft. Islam is the only religion except KKK with their holy book the Kloran that hates blacks. Dumb blacks join this crap.

8:39 PM  
Blogger Sam said...

Hello Tyrone, I just discovered your blog. My compliments. I wanted to respond to your comments about the Black conservatives on the Glenn Beck "Time to Be Heard, Pt. 1" segment who all admitted to voting for Barack Obama. - I'm a 42-year-old male in Central Ohio who comes from a mixed race background. My father is 90-years-old, Black, and was born in Anniston, Alabama. Throughout my whole life, he has been an inspiration of strength. He fought on Omaha Beach on D-Day, in the Army's all-Black 320th VLA Anti-Aircraft Balloon Bat. He's been a lifelong Republican and had a personal friendship with former Ohio Governor James A. Rhodes and he attended several functions with Ronald Reagan (I've got photos as well. A nice keepsake). - I spent my youth in a low income, mostly Black neighborhood while he and my mother worked tirelessly to send me to a private school for my education. I regularly had to fight in my neighborhood because I was perceived as being/speaking "too White," and then later had to fight at my school (mostly White) when I encountered racism there also. At 17, I found another 17-year-old shot in the head - for his shoes - in front of my garage. If anything, I was taught to be strong and think independently and refuse to conform to ANYONE'S "group think mentality," regardless of its origin. As a result of this personal strength, I've remained conservative and Republican for all of my adult life (though I got fed up with the party's lack of conservatism last year and have been identifying myself as "Libertarian" for a year or so). -Now to get to my point. My 90-year-old, Republican father abandoned everything that made sense when Barack Obama became the Democrat nominee. He justified it with statements like "both parties are equally corrupt," and "George Bush doesn't know what he's doing," and various things such as that... but the bottom line was that he REGULARLY ATTACKED me and belittled me when I refused to support Obama. After all the years of standing firm, he caved when it came to ensuring the election of America's first Black President. Each time my father and I spoke or saw each other, he went out of his way to make our time together turn political and then proceeded to shred me for my refusal to vote for Obama. Eventually, for him, it came down to all the years of prejudice and racism he'd experienced... and his astonishment that it was actually possible that a Black man could be elected President in his lifetime. He'd never believed it possible, and now it was there. And, regardless of Obama's agenda... my father was going to help him get there. And in his mind, I should have too. -Well, it should be obvious to you now that I did not agree. And my father and I are still at odds about it. When we see each other now, he constantly tells me that he thinks Obama's going to save us all and stop the corruption. If he WOULD listen to me, I'd try to have a dialogue... but he's not listening anymore. Obama's in, and he's happy & supportive. As for me, I'm concerned for the future of our way of life... but my father's position now is "Hey, I'm 90-years-old. I've fought everything and I'm not gonna be around to see how it turns out. Good luck!" - But, from the standpoint of Amercian Blacks who felt pressure or obligation to vote for Barack Obama, I can definitely understand those who caved on their principles. I'm not saying I agree with them, but I understand. -S.M. Cols. Ohio

3:03 PM  

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