What are "cracker" counties?
What would be the response if political analyst for Fox News would have said while reporting in Florida that Obama would do well in the lower part of Florida which is mostly koon counties. That person would be fired 30 seconds after his segment ended and rightfully so by the way. Rogers Alies of Fox News would be apologizing repeatedly for what was said. Progressives would be demanding for advertisers to pull their spots from Fox News immediately. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and others in the Civil Rights industry would be calling for boycotts and protests of Fox News. Also, congress would no doubt try to get involved for grandstanding purposes. What I am saying is that it's pretty obvious what would happen if such an incident arose on Fox News. Well, lets say that the incident was reversed. Lets say that instead of the News Channel being Fox News it was MSNBC, and let's go further in saying that the person didn't call the area "koon counties" but instead referred to it as "cracker counties", and the candidate who was reported to do well in those counties wasn't Barack Obama but instead Newt Gingrich, what would be the response then? Of course I am just making this all up, I mean nobody like lets say the Politico's Jonathan Martin would ever make such a racist statement like that, right?
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CB;"What would be the response if political analyst for Fox News would have said while reporting in Florida that Obama would do well in the lower part of Florida which is mostly nigger counties".
Please, please, please, puh-leeeeeeze tell FOX News it's okay now to say "nigger"! They should have a "use the nigger word day"!! Just say nigger this, nigger that all day.
The right-wing blog sphere is on fire over this, and they're using the same "nigger analogy" as you are Tyrone. (Of course it's expected that you take your marching orders)
Here again your right-wing "mentors" have cloaked their intent. I'd bet that almost all of those right wing sites already knows that Cracker Country is a rural area of Florida established in 1978. If you look at the map that MSNBC put up on the screen, you clearly see that Tampa (where "Cracker Country" is located) is indicated and highlighted in yellow.
Take a look at their Website and see how proud they are about their heritage.
They even explain what a Florida Cracker is.
I think on this one Tyrone you should have a "HUGE" lump in your throat. What would you call "dark hard licorice on a stick?"
A buddy of mine emailed me This You Tube Link of a native Northern Florida Cracker which was posted in January 2010. The narrator of the video states the "Cracker dialect" is most prevalent in the same area's that Martin spoke of in his commentary. He goes on to say that he (the narrator) was raised, and has done research showing that Northern Florida is mostly occupied by those who identify as "Crackers."
As a Caucasian, I do not take offense to the term "cracker", "honky" or any other derogatory term for a white person, unless otherwise words themselves were used directly toward me personally to try and put me down.
I have no idea what "cracker counties" are, and I am not offended by it.
If we have to be politically correct because members in the black community took offense to Rick Perry's ranch, "Niggerhead", then by all means let's rename products or things that have "derogatory" words like "Cracker" Jacks, or "Cracker" Barrel cheese, and "Honky"-tonk music.
Should the gay community boycott Great Britain because they use the term "fag" in reference to cigarettes?
How is it that blacks,individually would suddenly take offense over the term "nigger" when it comes out of a white person's mouth especially when it is not directed toward them? I don't condone the use of it in any way, shape or form. However, most blacks I've been around have said it all the time and use it to call other blacks that. And please don't take offense because I used it in this comment.
What I do take offense to is the hypocrisy and the double-standard that goes around.
"We (blacks) can say that word, but you cant!"
Why would I want to? I would rather act intelligent than act like a fool.
In my opinion, people are not offended when someone uses a certain word that may sound offensive, they pretend to be just to empower themselves by jumping into the "in crowd" to try and make the other feels uncomfortable and guilty.
p allen "The right-wing blog sphere is on fire over this, and they're using the same "nigger analogy" as you are Tyrone. (Of course it's expected that you take your marching orders)"
I guess I must have started a trend, maybe I will change the word from nigger to koon. Imatation is the sincerest form of flattery I suppose. The point I'm sure other bloggers were making is the hypocrisy by the left. The word cracker is a racially derogatory word aimed at whites. You know me allen, All I am highlighting is the double standard at play and that's it. I remember what happened to George Allen and the infamous "macaca" moment. To this day I can't find a definition of the word in any dictionary. Even though the word has no definition, the left destroyed George Allen by branding him as a racist. The story here is more about how two faced progressives are on the issue of race. I just save this as yet another example of that. Are you going to tell me allen that blacks haven't used the word cracker as a racial slur towards whites?
Once again, I bring the facts.
anon "If we have to be politically correct because members in the black community took offense to Rick Perry's ranch, "Niggerhead", then by all means let's rename products or things that have "derogatory" words like "Cracker" Jacks, or "Cracker" Barrel cheese, and "Honky"-tonk music."
I agree. I've never subscribed to political correctness and I won't start now. When people start to let other people dictate how they think and speak, it's over, because they freedom has just been taken.
CB;"Are you going to tell me allen that blacks haven't used the word cracker as a racial slur towards whites?", stated with a link to a insane crazed black guy shouting kill crackers and their babies.
Wow Tyrone, what a comparison!! A insane black guy spewing insane rhetoric about killing babies, some how equates to a white reporter referring to an area of Florida as "cracker counties", where the people themselves celebrate their "cracker" history.
Moreover, you failed to even address "THE FACT" that the Martin did not use the word in a "pejorative manner." Rather he used it in the "descriptive manner", such as the people who live there use it themselves!!
Highlighting a "double standard?" How silly are you going to get Tyrone? Show me how you get a double standard in comparing an ignorant black guy spewing nonsense, versus a white reporter referencing what is clearly a Florida/Southern white heritage?
Okay, I'll play your stupid game!
The black panther guy says he hates whites and wants to kill them...right? He had about 5 maybe 10 people shouting along with him. Give me a video or some pictures of black panthers killing white people. I'll take current, or pictures from the past.
Here is a VIDEO of whites who killed blacks. Pay close attention. At the beginning of the video it shows two black men hanging from a tree with a crowd of at least 100 people looking on. Look closer and you'll see women and children present for the lynching.
Here's another VIDEO of the 1928 Tulsa, Oklahoma massacre where at least 200 blacks were killed.
So, one crazed insane black guy "talks" about killing people. Whereas, MILLIONS of crazed insane white people endorsed, (thousands carried out) the killing of blacks!
And you talk about "double standards"???? Gimme a break...
A cracker county is a county with inbred incest snaga tooth whhite people
Maybe Martin instead should have said White Trash counties?
Here's and interesting tid-bit...
Lower Cognitive Ability Predicts Greater Prejudice Through Right-Wing Ideology and Low Intergroup Contact.
"Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at Brock University and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice.
Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added".
Looks like Ann Coulter's (who doesn't even tell her correct age) is way off base about the liberal I.Q. Are her blacks really better than theirs?
@ P. Allen-Yes, whites have attacked, murdered blacks in the past with the links you have presented. It was one of the most despicable acts committed by whites against blacks.
Today, what the liberal media does not report, when it comes to interracial crimes, most of it is black on white crime.
FBI statistics show that blacks commit 90% of interracial crime*
1. African -Americans commit 90% of the approximately 1,700,000 interracial crimes of violence that occur in the United States every year, and are more than 50 times more likely to commit vioent crime against whites than vice versa.
Major Findings
1. Blacks commit violent crimes four to eight times the white rate. Hispanic commit violent crimes at approximately three times the white rate, and Asians at one half to three quarters the white rate.
2. Blacks are as much more violent than whites (four to eight times) as men are more violent than women.
3. Of the approximately 1,700,000 interracial crimes of violence involving blacks and whites, 90 percent are committed by blacks against whites. Blacks are 50 times more likely than whites to commit individual acts of interracial violence. They are up to 250 times more likley than whites to engage in multiple-offender or group interracial violence.
4. There is more black-on-white than black-on-black violent crime. Fifty-six percent of violent crimes committed by blacks have white victims. Only two to three percent of violent crimes committed by whites have black victims.
5. Blacks are twice as likely to commit hate crimes.
*Sources
Federal Bureau of Investigation, Crime in the United States
Bureau of Justice Statistics, Criminal Vitimization
Bureau of Justice Statistics, Sourcebook of Criminal Justice
Here are some places with the name Coon in them:
* Coon Lake County Park, MN.
* Coon Fork County Park, WI
* Coon Rapids, MN
So far what I googled, I cannot find any reports of blacks getting offended, or demanding the names be changed. But give it time, eventually.
Next, they would probably take offense to the dog breed coon hound.
I know a LOT of Blacks who are proud to be "niggahs". Maybe we should all just start "niggah this"-ing everything, as YOU suggest (since so many rap icons are already onboard) p. anthony.... they even have their OWN dialect!
Anon;"FBI statistics show that blacks commit 90% of interracial crime".
Your outline of statistics looks rather familiar....
Hmmmm...could they be from the New Century Foundation???
Those stats resemble THIS OUTLINE OF SIMILAR STATS AND FINDINGS, although your stats appear to be a lot higher.
Anon;"Here are some places with the name Coon in them: I cannot find any reports of blacks getting offended, or demanding the names be changed. But give it time, eventually".
First off, a "coon" is an animal. Blacks didn't create or coin the name as a pejorative for Blacks...White people did! Secondly, an overwhelming majority of blacks could care less if a city is named "coon." However, if THIS was the city's official mascot, I'd think they'd have a problem... (the type of image that you would imagine, huh?)
btw... As you see, most of us here post a link to our "stats" and facts.
Anon;"FBI statistics show that blacks commit 90% of interracial crime* 1. African -Americans commit 90%....
Yadda-yadda-yadda....
5. Blacks are twice as likely to commit hate crimes.
*Sources
Federal Bureau of Investigation, Crime in the United States".
Hmmmmmmm???
2009 FBI Hate Crime Statistic web site?
The FBI has a voluntary reporting system. The numbers can be a bet skewed, although by no fault of their own.
FBI shows in Table 1 Incidents, Offenses, Victims, and Known Offenders by Bias Motivation, 2009;
Anti-White= 545 incidents and 652 offense. Anti-Black= 2284 incidents and 2724 offenses?.
Does the stats in Table 4 Offenses Type
by Bias Motivation, 2009 reflect the impression you give with the information you provided?
What about the stats in Table 5?? etc.......?
Of the 6,225 known offenders, 62.4 percent were white, 18.5 percent were black the FBI reports.
Blacks are 13% of the population. Whites make up 77% of the population. Mathematically and statistically thinking, you can say that Blacks are more "likely" to commit hate crimes. However, reliable figures often produce unreliable statistics.
When you say that "Blacks are twice as likely to commit hate crimes", what type of impression does that give? If a black person moves into an all white area, does the chances of a white person having a hate crime committed against them double? You might think so, but "statistics" prove the opposite more likely occurs.
"Do not put your faith in what statistics say until you have carefully considered what they do not say."
~William W. Watt
The term cracker is most offensive when used by a wealthy white towards a poorer, blue collar white as a term implying inferiority. Otherwise, any white, native Floridian (or, to a lesser extent, Georgian) who is offended by the word cracker used in that context is a someone who is ashamed of who they are. They are crackers. There was a baseball team called the Atlanta Crackers. There's a country rock band called Cracker. Crackers are proud to be crackers. Way damn better than being a snowbird.
School shootings, movie theatre shootings, shopping mall shootings, suicide rate, serial killers, women cheat more, cults, children kill their parents, pedophilia, and government assistance. That is all I have to say..
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