Dr Benjamin Carson responds to the racial attacks from the tolerant left.
Dr. Carson is able to see the progressives who consider him their enemy for who they are, adults acting like childish third graders. Most liberals do act childish. The names they've used really speaks to their lack of maturity. They've refereed to Rush Limbaugh as Rush "Limpballs", tea party people as "teabaggers" and on and on. It sometimes does not pay to debate liberals, because you are debating immature adults. Dr Carson knows that, and that is why he explained on the Fox News Megyn Kelly show that the racial attacks by the left only makes them look bad in their inability to discuss the real issues. He also made Toure look pretty darn stupid, but that really wasn't hard to do in the first place.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 10:26 AM
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Carson is just doing what he was taught to do. when you get a education in the black community after you finish you leave. If your black and poor you teach your kids that you have to get out and away from other niggas if you want to do better. When a nigga from the hood get a education hes gonna do one of two things. Hes gonna come back to the hood and use his education to take advantage and trick, steal and rob from the nigga's that are left. Or hes gonna get as far away from the hood then get with white folks and talk about how bad nigga's are in the hood.
Ben carson is doing what his mother taught him. he got his education and degrees and got as far away from detroit as he could. He only goes to detroit to make a speech or pick up a award. I tried to find if he had done any medical work in detroit. I couldnt find where he had even put a band aid on a kids cut knee. let alone somebody with a gunshot wound.
Its rare that you see a nigga from the hood make it and then come back and really try to help the people who need and really do want help. ben carson aint no different. He got out which is good for him. But thats just what niggas do.
Gerald T.-
It's really funny when Dr. Carson mentioned about those who labeled him an Uncle Tom, that he always asked how is he like the character in the Harriet Beecher Stowe novel. Apparently, the one's who are doing the insults never read the book; they're the ones who are being foolish.
I often wonder when these people who do the insult, when they are mistaken, and Dr. Carson suggested to them to read the book, I wonder how many of them went ahead and took his advise? Most of them, I feel are probably too proud and won't admit to their mistake.
-Big Pop
Gerald-" Hes gonna come back to the hood and use his education to take advantage and trick, steal and rob from the nigga's that are left."
That's funny Gerald, because that's what Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have been doing to the blacks over the years. So, you prefer the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton over Dr. Carson, Gerald? They did nothing but stir up racial animosity and lining their pocket books for their own benefit. How have they helped you? Have they given you any of the money they "earned" by scamming other people to you?
You need better role models than those two to help you guide you to the right path, AND to work on the racist grammar of yours. No one is holding you back but you Gerald. The reason why you have a problem with Dr. Carson is because you are jealous of him.
-Big Pop
Big Pop;"I often wonder when these people who do the insult, when they are mistaken, and Dr. Carson suggested to them to read the book, I wonder how many of them went ahead and took his advise? Most of them, I feel are probably too proud and won't admit to their mistake".
All due respect to Dr. Carson, because I rarely if ever use the term "Uncle Tom" to describe a black man. (that's not to say I haven't, yet I would not use the term to describe Dr. Carson).
And what mistake is being made Big Pop? I'll be honest here. I've never took the time to read Harriet Beecher Stowe's novel. Although I am quite aware that the Uncle Tom character in her writings was portrayed somewhat as a saint who was killed by his master, then martyred for his righteous deeds. But I'll come back to "Uncle Tom" in a moment...
Haven't you been told that the term Uncle Tom is a "pejorative?" It's meant to belittle, or as an insult. Much like the term "bitch" (a female dog) to describe a testy or spiteful woman. Or the term "faggot" (a bundle of sticks) to describe a homosexual man. The English language is full of pejoratives. If you ever get "pissed" (typically, "Urine") off, I'm sure you've used one!
Big Pop, you shouldn't really rely on talking-points when attempting to "smack down" an assertion. You wrote, those who would call Dr. Carson an Uncle Tom were making a "mistake" in their usage of the term. Contrary to your trained "talking-point", the term has ample history for it's present common use.
Stowe wrote her novel in the early 1850's. The Emancipation Proclamation order was not issued until 1863. So what does that tell you about how and why Stowe wrote and portrayed the Uncle Tom character? You should be able to figure it out...
As far as "why" or "how" the term became a pejorative, it's really simple. In the years following the very popular novel, a number a stage adaptations were produced (how many, I'm not sure). Most of these adaptations were "minstrels" shows, where the character of Uncle Tom was reduced to a groveling slavish sort of character. These minstrels came be known as Tom Shows where many of the characters (white men) were in "black-face." That link has several ad posters from the Tom Show era. However, since you do have access to a computer, I suggest you "Google" or "Bing" (or use whatever search engine you like), the term Tom Show as these type of theatrical productions were popular until the 1940's. Hence the term, "Uncle Tom."
Are you to proud to admit your mistake?
Big pop im not jealous of ben carson. I said he got out the hood and thats really a good thing. And thats what im talking about. In the hood you have some parents who stay together. You mostly have single women though. Every nigga wants to get out the hood. So people tell there kids do what you have to do to get out. And when you get out dont look back and forget about the niggas you left behind.
Dude if you aint black you cant tell me whos a black role model. Ben carson al sharpton and jesse jackson are all role models for to me. Because they all got out of the hood. Al sharpton and jesse jackson aint done nothing for me. Ben carson aint done nothing for me either. And i dont expect them to do something for me. Like i said once a nigga get out the hood hes gonna do one of two things. Hes gonna get paid talking to niggas about how bad it is in the hood. Or hes gonna get paid talking about how bad the niggas are in the hood.
I would not have a problem if my son grew up to be just like Al sharpton or ben carson. But people like you have a problem with barack obama. You want black people to sound like ben carson and not barack obama. People like you like to see the educated niggas leave the hood. You need to have al sharpton and jesse jackson so you can blame them. You dont want millions of obamas. And you know there will never be millions of ben carsons. Long as niggas stay in the hood and prison and dont get into politics your okay.
Gerald T.-
To Allen-
I see you go to attack me but not Gerald and his derogatory grammar.
Anyway, I'm not proud of any mistakes of make, but that's what getting an education and learning from one's own mistakes is is all about. No, I do not think I made a mistake after all. I simply stated was when the people who insulted Dr. Carson with the term, if they ever took his advise to read the book. Nor was I "smacking down" any one particular.
Allen-"Haven't you been told that the term Uncle Tom is a "pejorative?" It's meant to belittle, or as an insult. Much like the term "bitch" (a female dog) to describe a testy or spiteful woman. Or the term "faggot" (a bundle of sticks) to describe a homosexual man. The English language is full of pejoratives. If you ever get "pissed" (typically, "Urine") off, I'm sure you've used one!
I'll admit, I have said those words, I'm pretty sure you have too Allen. However, I have seen and read about people who get disciplined and reprimanded for using for using certain terms and slang that were never offensive to begin with; even if it was unintended as a derogatory remark.
Remember the black councilman in D.C. who went on a tirade when his white colleague used the term "niggardly" while he was discussing the budget. He demanded that he'd be fired. Once he found out what the word meant, he never offered any apologies.
Years ago at my local high school, when smoking was still allowed on campus, an exchange student from Scotland got suspended because during period breaks she asked a fellow student if she can bum a "fag" off of her classmate. Of course she was asking for a cigarette. Because of what she said, she was disciplined for that. How ironic for the school authorities to discipline an exchange student for using slang from her culture, but they cannot do anything about bullying when those use that same word to harass other students whether they're gay or not. That goes for the other term like "bitch", "retard", or "dyke".
Also, while we're on the subject of derogatory words, have you spoke out against other blacks who used the N-word (either way, how it is used, I still find the word offensive) in your presence? I'm surprised you have not showed contempt for Gerald using it on this post since his post came before mine.
-Big Pop
-Big Pop
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I may not totally agree with the "way" Gerald expresses his sentiments, however, I totally understand where he's coming from. I've stated many times here that the best and brightest blacks abandoned the black communities for so-called "greener pastures." Dr. Carson is from Detroit, and yet Gerald appears to be correct. Although there is a public school named after him, and he's had a few speaking engagements, I don't believe he has any economic, professional or philanthropic connections (monetary or giving his time) here in Detroit. So far, it appears as though "he got out and hasn't looked back." However, since he's retiring, perhaps he will become more engaged with his home town... I'll wait and see
p allen "I may not totally agree with the "way" Gerald expresses his sentiments, however, I totally understand where he's coming from."
I have to butt in on this. I understand where Gerald is coming from as well, he's coming in from far out in left field. They say that broken clock is right at least twice a day, in your and Gerald case their isn't even a remote instant when you two have ever been right.
p allen "I've stated many times here that the best and brightest blacks abandoned the black communities for so-called "greener pastures." Dr. Carson is from Detroit, and yet Gerald appears to be correct. Although there is a public school named after him, and he's had a few speaking engagements, I don't believe he has any economic, professional or philanthropic connections (monetary or giving his time) here in Detroit. So far, it appears as though "he got out and hasn't looked back."
It's called "upward progress". No offense, but what is there in Detroit to look back to allen? The day I leave Baltimore, I'm sure am not looking back, I will be flooring my SUV to get to Florida fast enough.
p allen "However, since he's retiring, perhaps he will become more engaged with his home town... I'll wait and see"
Frankly I don't believe Dr. Carson should become more engaged with his Detroit for the simple reason is that, they won't appreciate any efforts he would try to do simply because of his conservative ideology, a complete waste of time.
Gerald T "Dude if you aint black you cant tell me whos a black role model. Ben carson al sharpton and jesse jackson are all role models for to me.
Well I am black, and I am saying that Dr Carson is true role model for not only blacks but young people in general, so now what Gerald? The accomplishments of Dr Benjamin Carson can even be touched by the two bit, race hustling shyster hood rats Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. They don't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Dr Carson. Jesse and Al role models?!That is dam too funny for words Gerald, thanks for the chuckle, it was worth it.
Gerald T "Because they all got out of the hood. Al sharpton and jesse jackson aint done nothing for me. Ben carson aint done nothing for me either."
Why would you need any person to do for you if you are able to to for yourself Gerald? As for Jesse and Al, how did they make their millions, it sure wasn't from preaching. Fill in the blank.
Hell, drug dealers live out in the burbs to but at one time lived in the inner city, so mentioning Jesse and Al doesn't mean much.
Dr Carson's career path and accomplishments are by far and no comparison more admirable of praise then that of racial parasites who feed of of civil unrest to empower themselves.
p allen "And i dont expect them to do something for me. Like i said once a nigga get out the hood hes gonna do one of two things. Hes gonna get paid talking to niggas about how bad it is in the hood. Or hes gonna get paid talking about how bad the niggas are in the hood."
So why don't niggas in the hood make a consecrated effort to get out of the hood instead of being comfortable in their situation? Why don't they aspire for better instead of settling for mediocrity and dependency?
p allen "Big Pop, you shouldn't really rely on talking-points when attempting to "smack down" an assertion. You wrote, those who would call Dr. Carson an Uncle Tom were making a "mistake" in their usage of the term. Contrary to your trained "talking-point", the term has ample history for it's present common use. "
Ok, and that "present common use" is what? This is where the weak mindset of liberalism is displayed. A certain percentage of liberals especially white ones believe that only white people belong to the GOP. What they never want to acknowledge is that the majority of whites also belong to the Democratic Party along with the Libertarian Party, the Green Party, the Constitution Party and the Communist Party USA. Blacks only make up around 13% of the population. So I would like to really known how the term Uncle Tom applies in the modern day vocabulary. Liberals tend to take words which have meanings and try to completely change them around to give a new stigma to a already predefined word.
Allen, can you tell me why whites aren't referred to as Uncle Toms? My take as it always has been is that the "redefined" definition that progressives use is that of a solely racial attack against blacks who aren't subservient to the Democratic Party, point blank.
Big Pop;"No, I do not think I made a mistake after all".
I figured you wouldn't....
Big Pop;"I simply stated was when the people who insulted Dr. Carson with the term, if they ever took his advise to read the book. Nor was I "smacking down" any one particular".
Okay fine, you weren't attempting to "smack down" (aka, correct someones mistake). However you clearly stated that; " Apparently, the one's who are doing the insults never read the book; they're the ones who are being foolish". I'm simply asking, why is a person "foolish" because, A) they didn't read Stowes book, and B) they use the term "Uncle Tom?"
Big Pop you're missing the point (or ignoring it) and, you missed the part where I explained that Stowe wrote the book "BEFORE SLAVERY HAD ENDED." In the novel the character "Uncle Tom" (a black slave) was basically a "hero." He was portrayed as being "saint like." Use you brain Big Pop. The novel was written in 1850, by a white woman. Do I really have to explain the sentiments of most white men at the time. Particularly white men in the south???
The background and the usage of the term is not based entirely on Stowes novel. The derogatory use of the term stems from the characters adaptation in the Minstrel shows. For almost 70 years after the novel had been written, an "Uncle Tom" was portrayed as a groveling "shufflin' yow-za' yes-umm boss" character.
After the Stowe novel, the 'Tom Shows' is where the term Uncle Tom became an epithet for black men who were believed to be, or where subservient to whites.
That's where the term comes from, and not necessarily the character in Staowes novel. Admittedly the Uncle Tom character from Stowes novel was bastardized in later years. Yet from the many years of Minstrel stage shows and films (perhaps hundreds) the term has been cemented in the American lexicon. Thus, it is what it is...
However if you still feel the need to correct, "the ones who are being foolish", advised them that the character Uncle Tom was bastardized by racist bigots like, P.T. Barnum, George Aiken and H.J. Conway.
think takes more than read a book
need some invest in the nation
some one boost the nation need
opportunities .
the leader so call leader or congress does t do it.
alberto
Allen-"Okay fine, you weren't attempting to "smack down" (aka, correct someones mistake). However you clearly stated that; " Apparently, the one's who are doing the insults never read the book; they're the ones who are being foolish". I'm simply asking, why is a person "foolish" because, A) they didn't read Stowes book, and B) they use the term "Uncle Tom?"
When I come across anybody using the term "Uncle Tom" I asked them what they mean by that? Most of the time, they reply of a black person "acting white", oppresses other blacks, or selling out their own race.
I don't know where they got that kind of information, but they are the one's who are mistaken and that is why I refer to them being foolish. Last I checked Tom refuses Simon Legree's orders to beat another slave, which he gets beat by Legree himself. Doesn't sound oppressing other blacks.
After what Tom has endured by Simon Legree, he encourages another slave Cassie to escape; taking another slave Emmeline with her. When Tom refuses to tell Simon Legree where Cassie and Emmeline went, he gets beaten to death by two of Legree's overseers. Tom did not betray Cassie and Emmeline.
Far as I can tell, Tom did not own slaves, nor did he beat any. As for the part "acting white", well, I don't know how a white person suppose to act as long as he/she does not behave like Simon Legree.
-Big Pop
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