Martin Luther King III made the jaws of MSNBC drop in horror.
When I watched this video of Martin Luther King the third talking on MSNBC's program called the cycle, I couldn't help from laughing at the host's Toure's expression to what MLK III said. I've been saying for well over fifteen years now that it is stupid for blacks to be monolithic in their support towards the Democratic Party. It would be stupid for them to give that kind of support to even the Republican Party, because like I've said, when blacks or for that mater any minority group gives it's overwhelming support towards any political party, and that party does nothing to earn that support, the party is going to naturally assume that that group of people are always going to vote for them.
So it goes from the party having to earn that support, to them expecting it to then them ultimately feeling they are "entitled to their votes".
This is why minorities who don't blindly follow the herd mentality are called out. When the party has a good thing going, the last thing they want is others who see through the BS to influence others to what is really going on. Way back in the 1960's Malcolm X stated the same thing about blacks and their overwhelming support towards political parties especially the Democratic Party, with nothing to show for it.
He basically said what I've been saying, that blacks need to leverage their votes and have political parties "actually earn it" that included the Democratic Party. I've heard liberals tell me that "I vote against my interests". When they say that, I normally tell them please list my personal interests that I vote against, that normally shuts them up. When MLK III said that blacks should be Republicans, Independents and dialog with the Tea Party, the panel especially Toure gasped with horror. The look on Toure's face was priceless and beyond funny.
MLKIII is right. Blacks should be Republicans, Independents, Tea Party, Green Party, Constitution Party, Libertarians etc. The whole mindset that blacks should belong exclusively to the Democratic Party is absurd, especially when there is no evidence to support why it's a good thing. I'm sure MLK III will not be invited back on MSNBC after what he said. The last think progressives want are blacks to start thinking as people and not as a loyal collective.
So it goes from the party having to earn that support, to them expecting it to then them ultimately feeling they are "entitled to their votes".
This is why minorities who don't blindly follow the herd mentality are called out. When the party has a good thing going, the last thing they want is others who see through the BS to influence others to what is really going on. Way back in the 1960's Malcolm X stated the same thing about blacks and their overwhelming support towards political parties especially the Democratic Party, with nothing to show for it.
He basically said what I've been saying, that blacks need to leverage their votes and have political parties "actually earn it" that included the Democratic Party. I've heard liberals tell me that "I vote against my interests". When they say that, I normally tell them please list my personal interests that I vote against, that normally shuts them up. When MLK III said that blacks should be Republicans, Independents and dialog with the Tea Party, the panel especially Toure gasped with horror. The look on Toure's face was priceless and beyond funny.
MLKIII is right. Blacks should be Republicans, Independents, Tea Party, Green Party, Constitution Party, Libertarians etc. The whole mindset that blacks should belong exclusively to the Democratic Party is absurd, especially when there is no evidence to support why it's a good thing. I'm sure MLK III will not be invited back on MSNBC after what he said. The last think progressives want are blacks to start thinking as people and not as a loyal collective.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 12:24 PM
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The look on Toure’s face WAS priceless because the Tea Party’s true racist sentiments ARE masked with political opposition -- a belief MLK III supports in your video clip.
Toure’s reaction basically asked: WHY IN HELL WOULD A SANE AFRICAN-AMERICAN ‘ENGAGE’ THE TEA PARTY? It’s a good question.
But MLK’s response was perfect. The only way to resolve disputes is to communicate, just as his father communicated with white racists in the ‘60s (the forebearers of today’s Tea Party).
I assume Toure would respond that MLK III’s dad was murdered by a white racist. … And so the battle rages on.
I don't think Toure and the staff at MSNBC has ever gone to a Tea Party event. If they have, they try everything they can to brandish image, only to have it backfire on them.
Just like that event at a gun rally, where the staff talked about intense racial overtones from the white, racist gun nuts. at that event, only they never personally attended that event and of the people they were filming was a black man.
MSNBC does not want race to go away. Like that one guy was asking MLK III, if people are against Obama's policy or "something else". Makes me wonder if was try to bait MLK III to say that racism was the factor. I loved his response, but I don't think this was the answer that they were looking for.
The more MSNBC lies, the more they try to race-bait, the stupider they become. And they wonder why they're low in the rating.
-BP
Isrthen library "WHY IN HELL WOULD A SANE AFRICAN-AMERICAN ‘ENGAGE’ THE TEA PARTY? It’s a good question."
Toure asked a question whether the Democratic Party takes black people for granted and just reinforced why the Democratic Party should take their votes as a given with that remark about the Tea Party. Toure has not idea, concept nor clue about the Tea Party. I know the Tea Party very well, I have very good friends who are members of Freedom Works, Tea Party Express and Tea Party nation. Toure has never been to a tea party event nor has he ever really talked to a tea party member, I've been to five tea party evens, two in my state of Maryland. As a black man, I have a working knowledge of the Tea Party where as people like Toure and other blacks have a "perception based off of other people's opinions about the Tea Party". I rather deal in facts then opinions and here say. The question I would ask Toure is "why in the hell should most blacks belong to the Democratic Party" and the answer can't have anything to do with the GOP. The answer would have to be Democratic policies specific.
Isrthen library"The look on Toure’s face WAS priceless because the Tea Party’s true racist sentiments ARE masked with political opposition -- a belief MLK III supports in your video clip."
So it's considered racist to political oppose a party or ideology? Really? So that would mean that Democrats were hiding their racists sentiment against George Bush, when he was president? Republicans were hiding their racist sentiment against Blill Clinton when they impeached him? Ever since the first president of the United States George Washington, every president has had criticism and attacks from oppoising political parties and their supporters. It's laughable to the point absurdity for anyone to have thought that just because Obama was elected that political opposition was going to magically stop. I have to give Hillary Clinton credit for something she said when Bush was president
Hillary "We have the right to disagree with the administration or ANY ADMINISTRATION."
Using logic, if the Tea Party is racist and it's sole purpose is to attack the black man in the White House, then using logic that would mean that the Tea Party will simply disappear once Obama is gone right?Now if the Tea Party is still around in 2017, that would mean that the Tea Party's existence was about political polices and not to attack the black man in the white house correct?
-BP "I don't think Toure and the staff at MSNBC has ever gone to a Tea Party event. If they have, they try everything they can to brandish image, only to have it backfire on them."
I would be willing to bet money that Toure never been to a Tea Party. The only liberals who have ever gone to a tea party event went to either cause trouble and to single out black tea party folks and attack them like at the Tea Party event in Portland a few years ago.
-BP "The more MSNBC lies, the more they try to race-bait, the stupider they become. And they wonder why they're low in the rating."
MSNBC is a joke in the cable news. I still can't comprehend how Al Sharpton got his own show. Can you imagine if Fox News gave David Duke his own show? I guess MSNBC doesn't mind racists as long as they are black I suppose. MSNBC attacks Fox News, but they will never get why Fox has been number one for well over a decade now and counting. Who can take MSNBC seriously, when they have loons like Melissa Perry Harris wearing Tampon earrings? They all are hard left kooks trying to pose as a news channel and most people see them for the kooks that they are.
-BP "MSNBC does not want race to go away. Like that one guy was asking MLK III, if people are against Obama's policy or "something else". Makes me wonder if was try to bait MLK III to say that racism was the factor. I loved his response, but I don't think this was the answer that they were looking for."
We both know what's going to happen if Hillary is elected. The left is just going to keep the same script and take out the word "racist" and insert the word "sexist".
CB;"He basically said what I've been saying, that blacks need to leverage their votes and have political parties "actually earn it" that included the Democratic Party".
Tyrone...., there you go again. That's not what Malcolm was "basically" saying. First off, that's an excerpt from his "1964 Ballot or The Bullet" speech. Also you have to take into account that Malcolm was speaking from a black mans reality in the early 1960's. Secondly, listen to what he says from the outset of that excerpt;
"Any minority, any bloc that votes and sticks together is in a strategic position. EITHER WAY YOU GO, THAT'S WHO GET'S IT. You're in a position to determine who goes to the White House, and who will stay in the dog house... THE WHITES WERE EVENLY DIVIDED".
Malcolm was NOT "basically" saying leverage the black vote in order to get anything other than the social, educational and economic liberty that this country had promised to all citizens. In the speech he was explicitly saying that "Whites" not matter what their political persuasion, had not "kept their promise to Black Americans." Toward the end of the clip, he explains his overall idea that "Whites", particularly Southern segregationists, were reaping the rewards of the black vote via the senatorial and congressional committees.
Keep in mind that this was the early 1960's and the Democrats were in control in Washington. Had the Republicans been in power at the time, he would have given them the same vitriolic treatment. Yet Malcolm did not only attack political parties. He attacked ideology just as well. Go to You Tube and listen to the entire speech.
Here.
In the speech Malcolm also states "unequivocally" that he's NOT a Democrat or a Republican, and that he does not support either party.
AGAIN Tyrone, you've used the words of a black historic figure to distort and mislead. The only political "entity" that Malcolm X was referring to was "Black Nationalism." If that was what you meant to write, then I apologize for taking your take differently. If you were referring to Black Nationalism, welcome to the club!
CB;"I would be willing to bet money that Toure never been to a Tea Party".
I don't think MLK III has been to a Tea Party gathering either. But did you hear MLK III's response when Ari Melber asked him about the Tea Party's problem with President Obama? He responded that the Tea Party's problem with the president's was a combination of things, but problems with his policies was a "mask" for them. Also, MLK III was a bit apprehensive when stating that Blacks should "engage" in a dialog with the Tea Party. The gist of his assertion was that blacks should engage the Tea Party folks to invite "change", otherwise they just have their agenda. He went on to say that his dad would engage whites that "were against our (assuming he meant blacks) being here" (further assuming he meant, America).
From the conversation, it's obvious to me that MLK III felt that the Tea Party needed to be engaged by blacks to change "their agenda", not to change anything about the Democrat agenda. After all, he clearly stated that he's a Democrat.
p allen "I don't think MLK III has been to a Tea Party gathering either. But did you hear MLK III's response when Ari Melber asked him about the Tea Party's problem with President Obama? He responded that the Tea Party's problem with the president's was a combination of things, but problems with his policies was a "mask" for them."
Yes I heard him say that, and he was dead wrong in saying it.This crazy idea that there is not suppose to be any political or ideological opposition to Obama is insanely absurd!! Why, just because he's a black liberal Democrat? People are suppose to simply bite their tongues? Sorry that half the country refuses to buy into such a looney concept. That's the left's problem not the problem of the right. Political descent is the bedrock of any functioning Representative Republic.If the left truly embraces a color blind society, why do they keep treating Obama as if he's some fragile doll who needs 24/7 protecting?Any politician knows that, when they run for public office, they are political red meat for their opposition regardless of party affiliation, ideology or race. As for the Tea Party, those who are intelligent enough to understand current politics know that the Tea Party is at war with the GOP establishment. They are more focused on the midterms and making sure that Jeb Bush or Chris Christie do no win the 2016 GOP nomination.
Again,people who attack the tea party have no concept of the Tea Party
>>>I would be willing to bet money that Toure never been to a Tea Party. <<<
I’d be willing to bet money you never earned a political science degree.
>>>The only liberals who have ever gone to a tea party event went to either cause trouble and to single out black tea party folks and attack them like at the Tea Party event in Portland a few years ago.<<<
If you go to a party and you’re not a fan of the party’s host, aren’t all you doing is asking for trouble?
Are you really that arrogant to believe that a Tea Party rally would provide all the answers if everyone just stood there and listened?
Besides, one doesn’t need to attend a rally. You can stay at home and watch FOX News instead!
>>>MSNBC is a joke in the cable news. <<<
MSNBC might be the joke, but FOX News is the punchline. No doubt about it.
>>>MSNBC attacks Fox News, but they will never get why Fox has been number one for well over a decade now and counting.<<<
FOX is the single catch-all for the right-wingnuts, but there are countless choices out there for those who don’t breathe through their mouths.
O’Reilly doesn’t get the old Cronkite numbers. O’Reilly doesn’t even get the old Alan Thicke “In the Thicke of the Night” failed-late-night show numbers. Stop kidding yourself.
ancient lysocki "I’d be willing to bet money you never earned a political science degree."
No I didn't major in Political Science, but I'm sure your brilliant point is right around the corner. Majoring in Political Science has to do with the Tea Party and my experience with the Tea Party how?
ancient lysocki "If you go to a party and you’re not a fan of the party’s host, aren’t all you doing is asking for trouble?"
You means asking for trouble like this?
Actually you can go to an event to find out for yourself whether what you heard is correct or inaccurate. Actually it's called observation and learning. The problem is that if you don't think for yourself, others will tell you what to think. Rumors are known to travel much faster then the truth. Going back to your statement "If you go to a party and you’re not a fan of the party’s host, aren’t all you doing is asking for trouble?", again it's false, the year before last, I went down to the Occupy Baltimore camp at McKeldin Square. I actually got into some very good dialogs with the people there, there was no problems what so ever. I actually came way agreeing with some of the issues they were talking about and vice versa, so it was time well spent at an event I wouldn't normally be caught dead at.
ancient lysocki" Are you really that arrogant to believe that a Tea Party rally would provide all the answers if everyone just stood there and listened?"
I must truly be that arrogant then, because in a real life situation it happened to me at Occupy Baltimore. So your words against my experience don't weigh out sorry. In my case, it was good to have been arrogant for a few hours.
ancient lysocki "Besides, one doesn’t need to attend a rally. You can stay at home and watch FOX News instead!"
If you want to "experience" for yourself, sometimes it's best to just do that.If you want to keep hearing that the Tea Party is the worst thing since Adolph Hitler, you can always just stay home and watch MSNBC.
ancient lysocki"MSNBC might be the joke, but FOX News is the punchline. No doubt about it."
That was so clever, self high five for you man. lol When Fox News start having their own air personalities wearing tampon earrings like Melissa Harris on MSNBC then I will be inclined to agree with you.
ancient lysocki "FOX is the single catch-all for the right-wingnuts, but there are countless choices out there for those who don’t breathe through their mouths."
Your comment is interesting and absurd considering that more liberals watch Fox News then MSNBC and CNN combined. Furthermore, Fox News has more liberal contributors then MSNBC and CNN combined have conservative contributors. Funny how that gets left out by the left. It's odd that liberals have CNN,MSNBC, ABC NEW, CBS, PBS but keep focusing on little ol Fox. I guess the logic is to not focus on the 6 other networks just focus on the 1, wow. Furthermore, I guess the Christine Powers, Geraldo, Bob Beckel, Jusan Williams, Alan Colmes etc must all be right wing nuts. Maybe they are liberal right wing nuts on Fox, I have to check into that.
O’Reilly doesn’t get the old Cronkite numbers. O’Reilly doesn’t even get the old Alan Thicke “In the Thicke of the Night” failed-late-night show numbers. Stop kidding yourself."
I can't stand Bill O'Reilly. So much for right wing stereotypes. They just don't hold up when liberals want them to. I'm going to go out on a very thin limb and say that maybe just maybe that the reason why O'Reily doesn't get the ratings that Cronkite didn't get could be that Walter Cronkite was on free over the air "network television" compared to O'Reily being on pay for cable news. It's kind of like comparing apples and oranges. How many cable news shows have ratings equal to that of network news? I know you hate Fox, but that was a lame comparison. Sometimes hate can cloud your judgement.
>>> If you want to keep hearing that the Tea Party is the worst thing since Adolph Hitler, you can always just stay home and watch MSNBC.<<<
Fox News is the home version of teabagging, with the BREAKING NEWS that’s really 3 to 6 weeks old, and the ALERT ALERT ALERT ALERT flashing 24/7 for no apparent reason.
And there you go, talking about Hitler again. It always goes back to Hitler with the nutbags! Why??
It’s that authoritarian streak you ultra-conservatives have in your tiny little cores.
Hitler scares and titillates you at the same time! You can’t get enough of him!
>>> When Fox News start having their own air personalities wearing tampon earrings like Melissa Harris on MSNBC then I will be inclined to agree with you.<<<
I rarely watch MSNBC so I don’t really know from tampon earrings. You appear to be fascinated by them!
>>>Your comment is interesting and absurd considering that more liberals watch Fox News then MSNBC and CNN combined.<<<
Wrong again.
According to Pew during the 2012 election, this is how viewers identified themselves:
-- FOX: 60 percent conservative, 23 moderate, 10 liberal.
-- CNN: 32 conservative, 30 moderate, 30 liberal
-- MSNBC: 32 conservative, 23 moderate, 10 liberal.
And you, my little friend, seem to be watching a LOT of tampon earrings on MSNBC!
>>>Furthermore, Fox News has more liberal contributors then MSNBC and CNN combined have conservative contributors. Funny how that gets left out by the left. It's odd that liberals have CNN,MSNBC, ABC NEW, CBS, PBS but keep focusing on little ol Fox.<<<
Considering your arguments contain 100 percent emotion and 0 percent facts, I’ll assume that statement is once again comically & tragically wrong.
>>I guess the Christine Powers, Geraldo, Bob Beckel, Jusan Williams, Alan Colmes etc must all be right wing nuts.<<<
Other than the guy whose career imploded inside Al Capone’s vault, nobody but the FOX hard-cores have ever heard of this list of “liberal” all-stars – the progressive Washington Generals of punditry. … Bob Beckel? Jusan Williams? Soupy Sales has more name recognition!
On the other hand, James Carville at the end of his career STILL has enough on his fastball to kick superstar vamp Megyn Kelly’s little ass.
>>>I can't stand Bill O'Reilly.<<<
See? We’re all Americans here. We CAN agree on something!
My eye is still twitching from Pinhead’s embarrassing, insulting, racist interview with John Calipari.
The fact that Pinhead is allowed to conduct a one-on-one Super Bowl interview with a president of the United States demonstrates just how free and tolerant a country this is. … The fact that Pinhead conducts a one-on-one Super Bowl interview with a president of the United States proves that we are not dominated by a “liberal media.”
It’s a corporate media. Stop kidding yourself.
>>>So much for right wing stereotypes. They just don't hold up when liberals want them to.<<<
Stereotypes? HOLY CRAP. This from someone who thinks moderates are “liberals”, that all Democrats are “liberals”? That FOX has recently gone “liberal!” Good lord.
Teabaggers are somehow this unique, complicated, textured experience – organized by their lack of leadership, brilliant in their madness, clear in their incoherence, cheerful in their rage, brave in their fear, inclusive with their bigotry!
Yet everyone who isn’t a teabagger is a liberal robot – and they ALL believe exactly the SAME thing! …
Sure, that makes a lot of sense!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Idiot.
Toure is a complete IDIOT. I had the uncomfortable experience of seeing him crash and burn as a guest speaker at one of our universities for black history month. Side note, it simply amazes me at how many of these pseudo intellectual, sometimes mixed, fair complected African Americans proing themselves to be down with the "cause" open themselves up for lunacy and dare spread their ignorance. We are not MONOLITHIC. Key to success, simply run with TRUTH!!!
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