The hypocrisy by the left in the treatment of two NFL athletes Tim Tebow vs Michael Sam
Progressives are saying in no uncertain words the obvious. If you are an open Christian, you will be ridiculed and mocked relentlessly, however if you are openly gay, you will be treated as sports royalty. I just read today that the 7th round draft pick who was just a few picks away from the very bottom is going to get his own reality television show compliments of Oprah. Gee, could this because of Michael Sam's ability? I was being sarcastic. I don't think when Tim Tebow was in the NFL, he was offered his own reality show but then again Tim Tebow was a Christian and he was white, so that was two strikes against him right there. It's just so absurd that Michael Sam is being treated like a rockstar by the left, they gushed when he kissed another guy on national television. Contrast that to TIM Tebow who they couldn't wait to run out of the NFL and who mocked his Christian faith at ever possible moment. Of course, they will never acknowledge their hypocrisy. For them to do so would expose themselves for the frauds they are known to be. Tim Tebow was called "the most polarizing figure in sports". Will Michael Sam be called that two? Again sarcasm.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 1:34 AM
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Since Tim Tebow got a lot of flack and ridiculed for being a devout Christian, I have not seen NFL players such as the brothers Hamza and Husain Abdullah and other Muslim players be given the same treatment like Tim Tebow. Maybe because the don't want to "offend" Muslims.
Or they never attacked those players who are Jewish like Adam Goldberg or HOF Ron Mix. Maybe the just don't want to come off as being antisemitic?
Since being a devout Christian is a "crime" to many progressives, surprisingly, they gave the late Reggie White, who was a Christian and an ordained minister a free pass.
-BP
I read that NFL players too attacked, mocked, and be opinionated to Tim Tebow for his Christian beliefs. The moment that Miami Dolphins player Don Jones expresses his opinion about Michael Sam, he was fined and suspended from team activities and was ordered to go to educational training before he can return to the team.
-BP
Odd. I thought Tebow “was run out of the NFL” because he couldn’t hook on as a backup QB with the Jets, not because he’s a bible-thumper.
>>>“Is Michael Sam going to get the Tim Tebow treatment?”<<<
Yes, if he’s lucky!!
When Tebow made it to the NFL, the “media” transformed him from Florida hick into a Christian heavy-metal rock star!!!
He was bigger than Stryper! And he still is!
Tebow WAS offered to star in a reality series – The Bachelor!
He is a best-selling author! … He’s the subject of flattering documentaries!
ESPN, CBS, and FOX all battled in a bidding war for him to be a football analyst this year!
He’s making BIG money on endorsements: Nike, TiVo, etc.
HE WAS AN UNDERWEAR MODEL FOR JOCKEY.
How exactly did his religious beliefs cost him his liberties and livelihood? The man -- a certifiable first-round NFL bust -- is making more money than GOD HIMSELF!
Michael Sam, an SEC Defensive Player of the Year and consensus All-American, on the other hand, lives in a country where government leaders wish to claim that religion can overturn civil rights; that he is a second-class citizen; and his eternal resting place will be in Hell. (And that Tebow’s will be in Heaven.)
>>>They’re going to make it like second coming of Jackie Robinson for breaking some barrier, but in the NFL it never existed … There was never no ban against being gay in the NFL … A person’s sexuality isn’t supposed to be an issue, right?”<<<
A year ago, Heisman Trophy candidate Manti Teo got caught being in love with a fake girlfriend, and NFL GMs seriously wanted to know if he was gay. Some reporters dug further and were told that NFL teams have always coyly asked certain prospects if they, y’know, liked girls. …
Teo dropped from the projected No. 1 draft spot down to No. 38 because NFL GMs thought he was gay.
Where was all the outrage from the so-called Velvet Rainbow Mafia of yours?
No. There’s no official ban against openly gay players in the NFL -- that would be illegal. But you’re an idiot if you believe there wasn’t an unwritten rule against being an openly gay player.
Tell me about all those laws that discriminate against Christians again?
Tim Tebow with all of his public religious beliefs & displays is doing just fine. In fact, your precious victim is laughing all the way to the bank. Michael Sam could only be so lucky.
-BP "Don Jones expresses his opinion about Michael Sam, he was fined and suspended from team activities and was ordered to go to educational training before he can return to the team."
Yup, he was shipped off to the re education center to have his mind "worked on". Lord forbid that anyone has an opposing point of view to that of what liberals like. They can't have that.
Homophobe said "When Tebow made it to the NFL, the “media” transformed him from Florida hick into a Christian heavy-metal rock star!!!"
Wrong. Tebow became a rockstar of sorts not because of the media, but because HE WAS WINNING GAMES IN MIRACULOUS MANNER which caught the attention of the fans. Tebow as QB turned around a Broncos's losing season and helped get them to the playoffs. Tebow gained the attention for what he did on the field. Sam has not done that.
Homophobe "Tebow WAS offered to star in a reality series – The Bachelor!He is a best-selling author! … He’s the subject of flattering documentaries!"
And all of what you said happened when Tebow was playing and winning. How many games has Michael Sam played for the Rams?
Hompphobe "A year ago, Heisman Trophy candidate Manti Teo got caught being in love with a fake girlfriend, and NFL GMs seriously wanted to know if he was gay. Some reporters dug further and were told that NFL teams have always coyly asked certain prospects if they, y’know, liked girls."
They shouildn't have asked Manti Teo any questions like that. Again, football should be strictly about what goes on on the field. Is the attention being paid to Sam, because of his potential as a star linebacker or due to what he does with men in his bedroom?
homophobe "ESPN, CBS, and FOX all battled in a bidding war for him to be a football analyst this year!"
And it was because of what Tim Tebow did on the field in the NFL that sparked interest in the networks. What did Sam do in the NFL to warrant a reality show?
Teo dropped from the projected No. 1 draft spot down to No. 38 because NFL GMs thought he was gay.
homophobe "Teo dropped from the projected No. 1 draft spot down to No. 38 because NFL GMs thought he was gay."
And Sam was drafted 249th. So if they though Teo was gay, why was he taken at Number 38 yet same was taken at 249th?
homophobe "No. There’s no official ban against openly gay players in the NFL -- that would be illegal. But you’re an idiot if you believe there wasn’t an unwritten rule against being an openly gay player"
If there is an "unwritten rule" then I guess the Rams weren't aware of it that rule. How do you know about this unwritten rule? Did someone in the NFL tell you? Or is this you assumption?How many openly gay football players in college ever tried out for the NFL in the first place. As for as I know Michael Sam is the first.
So your perception of the NFL and the reality are two different thing it seems.
Only a year ago did a player -- who represented San Francisco of all places! – declare during Super Bowl media day, “No we don’t got no gay people on the team, they gotta get up out of here if they do. … Can’t be with that sweet stuff. Nah. Can’t be in the locker room, man. Nah.”
So unless you Tyrone believe Michael Sam is the first gay man to sign an NFL contract -- and frankly, your view of the world is so warped that I wouldn’t be surprised if you did -- that means homosexuals have felt the need to hide their true identity while they were active players.
Was there a written rule: No gays allowed in the NFL? No. It was unofficial. UNWRITTEN.
Michael Sam, voted the top defensive player this past season in college football’s top conference becomes the first to cross this civil rights barrier.
This in itself is notable and historic.
Tell me again – what was Tim Tebow’s landmark legacy to sports and culture other than possibly being the greatest-ever home schooled college quarterback?
Why is having fun at Tebow’s expense socially acceptable, yet ridiculing Sam a one-way ticket to public shame?
For as much as the Christians in this country claim they are persecuted, they enjoy more advantages than anyone else. That’s a fact, Jack.
Let me know of a sustained period in history when gays in America have enjoyed as many advantages as anti-gay Christians.
Perhaps the Tebow backlash came from those who remember Jim & Tammy Faye Bakker, or Jimmy Swaggart, and others. Many of us of a certain age were conditioned to regard outward displays of faith with a healthy dose of skepticism, and I don’t think that’s a bad thing.
History has proven that people who actively flaunt their faith end up being full of shit.
Futaric "So unless you Tyrone believe Michael Sam is the first gay man to sign an NFL contract -- and frankly, your view of the world is so warped that I wouldn’t be surprised if you did -- that means homosexuals have felt the need to hide their true identity while they were active players."
I never said that Michael Sam was the first gay man to sign an NFL contract, you should read what I said more closely and not what you want to see. I said that Michael Sam is the first "OPENLY GAY" person to sign an NFL contract. As for you saying that my point of the view is warped, how do you come to that conclusion, is it based primarily, because it doesn't coincide with yours perhaps? Frankly I can say the same about your world view. Then again, everybody has opinions, that is what makes views points diverse to begin with.
Futuric "Was there a written rule: No gays allowed in the NFL? No. It was unofficial. UNWRITTEN."
So are you saying that the NFL league had this unwritten rule? Was it each owner who had this rule? How did you discover the "unwritten" rule yourself? Was this rule written in invisible ink that you and a select group of people had the ability to discover? So what date did the "unwritten" rule become lifted so that Michael Sam could be drafted and who lifted the "unwritten" rule?
futaric "Michael Sam, voted the top defensive player this past season in college football’s top conference becomes the first to cross this civil rights barrier."
Don't make me laugh on that. Michael Sam is hardly an icon for civil rights. The civil rights movement will always be associated with the blacks anyways. Seeing that gays have always been in the NFL, he just chose to make his sexuality public, nothing else and nothing more. Again, he's no Jackie Robinson. He was historic.
Futaric "Tell me again – what was Tim Tebow’s landmark legacy to sports and culture other than possibly being the greatest-ever home schooled college quarterback?"
Tebow wasn't historic. He was a quarterback that came in when the Broncos had a losing record and took over and led them to the playoffs. Nobody to my knowledge ever claimed he was historic. As for Michael Sam, his sexuality has nothing to do nor will it impact improve or revolutionize the position of linebacker either. The same way Tebow's Christianity had no impact on his position as Quarterback.
I can imagine what the liberal media would say just in case if Michael Sam had a career-ending injury. Now I'm not suggesting he be seriously hurt, but if that were to happen to him, what's to stop the media like MSNBC to suggest that he was pummeled by a bunch of homophobic football players. Yet, they were silent on the New Orlean Saints "bountygate"?
-BP
-BP "can imagine what the liberal media would say just in case if Michael Sam had a career-ending injury. Now I'm not suggesting he be seriously hurt, but if that were to happen to him, what's to stop the media like MSNBC to suggest that he was pummeled by a bunch of homophobic football players. Yet, they were silent on the New Orlean Saints "bountygate"?"
The sports media is going to treat Michael Sam like a fragile porcelain doll. If he even gets injured forget career endeding, they are going to question whether his injury was due to an offensive tackle's "homophobic bigotry". The same way liberals turn every legitimate policy issue about Obama into a supposed issue, they will do the same with Sam. Hell, if there are reports that players on the Rams don't want to shower with him, they will be singled out as well.
>>> As for you saying that my point of the view is warped, how do you come to that conclusion, is it based primarily, because it doesn't coincide with yours perhaps? Frankly I can say the same about your world view. Then again, everybody has opinions, that is what makes views points diverse to begin with.<<<
Using religious freedom as a way to limit someone else’s civil rights is warped.
>>>So are you saying that the NFL league had this unwritten rule? Was it each owner who had this rule? How did you discover the "unwritten" rule yourself? Was this rule written in invisible ink that you and a select group of people had the ability to discover? So what date did the "unwritten" rule become lifted so that Michael Sam could be drafted and who lifted the "unwritten" rule?<<<
Wow. You’re really having a tough time understanding this! … Yes, the unwritten rule was breached when Michael Sam told the NFL he was gay, and when the Rams selected him in the draft. Now it’ll be up to currently closeted players to follow suit if they choose. And for right-wing owners, fans, and players to act like grownups and accept the new reality.
>>>Don't make me laugh on that. Michael Sam is hardly an icon for civil rights. The civil rights movement will always be associated with the blacks anyways. Seeing that gays have always been in the NFL, he just chose to make his sexuality public, nothing else and nothing more. Again, he's no Jackie Robinson. He was historic.<<<
The American Gay Rights movement has existed since 1924. You being a bigoted homophobe wouldn’t be expected to know this.
>>>Tebow wasn't historic. He was a quarterback that came in when the Broncos had a losing record and took over and led them to the playoffs. Nobody to my knowledge ever claimed he was historic. As for Michael Sam, his sexuality has nothing to do nor will it impact improve or revolutionize the position of linebacker either. The same way Tebow's Christianity had no impact on his position as Quarterback.<<<
Damn right Tebow wasn’t historic! Yet you and others are somehow comparing 2011 Tebow-madia to the reaction of a proud moment in gay civil rights history.
TEBOW AND JEEBUS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
utugov part"Damn right Tebow wasn’t historic! Yet you and others are somehow comparing 2011 Tebow-madia to the reaction of a proud moment in gay civil rights history."
Since Sam is not the first gay person to play int the NFL, it's a mute point but oh well. Second, he was the first openly gay player drafted by a team but he hasn't played yet, that is to be determined. So what's next, should we be on the look out for the first transsexual or cross dressing cheerleader in the NFL?lol, maybe the first woman who had "gender reassignment tries out for the NFL?Sorry, but I'm just not a person who buys into nor embraces absurdities. Also, what is "Jeebus"? I'm slightly curious.
utugov part "Using religious freedom as a way to limit someone else’s civil rights is warped."
Nobody is stopping sexual deviancies. What people do in private is their own business, but you are seem to forget or just simply wish to ignore is that people
"have the right to not like nor support what you like or find acceptable and vice versa".
Yes there are people who do not support homosexuality on religious grounds, but there are also those who are atheists who don't support homosexuality on the principal of biology. Now with that being said, I can care less what two adults do behind closed doors, I can care what one person does behind closed doors, it doesn't mean that I support it though nor do I have to. Myself personally, I believe the government should be OUT of the marriage business, because it is an institution it didn't create in the first place. Government can't redefine marriage, when it never created the original definition to begin with.
utugov part "Wow. You’re really having a tough time understanding this! … Yes, the unwritten rule was breached when Michael Sam told the NFL he was gay, and when the Rams selected him in the draft. Now it’ll be up to currently closeted players to follow suit if they choose. And for right-wing owners, fans, and players to act like grownups and accept the new reality."
It's more like you are having a tough time presenting the evidence to back up your argument, but that's not my problem. Again try to follow, perception is not a substitute for facts. Again how did you know about the unwritten rule, when it wasn't written. How did you become privileged to it? Again no answer? Did you have a Captain Gay decoder ring that wa able to see the hidden text in the NFL Charter, just curious. The owners, players and fans don't have to accept the reality you like, it's up to them to accept or reject based on their own personal beliefs. Progressives have this annoying habit of telling other that they need to act a certain way to their liking.
utugov part "The American Gay Rights movement has existed since 1924. You being a bigoted homophobe wouldn’t be expected to know this."
I can care less about the gay movement to be honest, all I care about is that it's not intertwined with the black civil rights movement. Furthermore, the bastardization of the word homophobe is annoying beyond belief. The word "phobia" means to " fear". I don't fear gays. Since I don not fear them, I have no phobia. Is this sinking in, I doubt it but what the hell. You all like playing semantics with words. Since you call me a "homophobe" then you might as well call me a "transphobe". I learned that one from John Kerry today. lol. But then again, I guess I should be able to call you a "Bibliphobe" fear of the bible or perhaps you are a "religiphobe" fear of religion. Two can play this game, and it's actually kind of fun to. So you are a religiphobe who is bigoted towards people of religion who's views based on their faith isn't in line with your views on sexuality, correct? You can call me a bigot, and I'll say fine. In the real world, nobody has to like, accept nor champion what you like, support or accept. They have the right to be against it. What you and others like you call others bigots for not liking it also. It doesn't matter, because everybody has their own "preferences" to what they like.
The definition of the word preference is "a greater liking for one alternative over another or others.
Everybody has their own preference to what they like. It's really that simple, well at least to most it is.
CB;"I don't think when Tim Tebow was in the NFL, he was offered his own reality show but then again Tim Tebow was a Christian and he was white, so that was two strikes against him right there".
White Christians have "TWO strikes against them" when it comes to television reality shows? Are you serious Tyrone? Why would you fabricate and perpetuate such a fantasy?
"Out of the 46 new reality shows slated for the spring, 45 percent are comprised of an exclusively white cast, 28 percent are predominantly black, and 26 percent have multicultural cast members (including Kimora Lee Simmons’s show and the Dominican cast of Washington Heights)".
-The GRIO.-
Granted, reality shows don't depict the average American in the best light (particularly blacks), but why would you forward a debunk-able false meme?
Moreover, there are several "faith based" reality shows that feature White and Black cast members. Yet AGAIN, you've chosen to negate and twist the facts to incite conservatives with ANOTHER false premise.
I'm well aware that Tebow was a right-wing "God send" for conservatives. When his proselytizing became a focal point for some in the media, right-wingers came-a-runnin'. In fact, that idea can be the difference for your comparison's to Michael Sam.
If Sam come's out on the field in drag, I'll have a major problem with it. If he begins every game kissing his boyfriend on the sideline, I'll be the first to say he's gotta' go. If he's found to be making sexual advances on his team mates, pinching his nipples in ecstasy after making great plays, or taunting other players by grabbing their buts, I'll sign any and every petition against him. But we'll just have to wait and see if he put's his "personal beliefs and lifestyle" on display on the field.
p allen "I'm well aware that Tebow was a right-wing "God send" for conservatives. When his proselytizing became a focal point for some in the media, right-wingers came-a-runnin'. In fact, that idea can be the difference for your comparison's to Michael Sam."
A lot of the support Tebow came mainly due to people noticing how negatively Tebow was treated by media.
p allen "If Sam come's out on the field in drag, I'll have a major problem with it. If he begins every game kissing his boyfriend on the sideline, I'll be the first to say he's gotta' go. If he's found to be making sexual advances on his team mates, pinching his nipples in ecstasy after making great plays, or taunting other players by grabbing their buts, I'll sign any and every petition against him. But we'll just have to wait and see if he put's his "personal beliefs and lifestyle" on display on the field."
He's not going to have to put his lifestyle on the field, the sports media is going to do that anyways. If Sam doesn't make the final roster before opening day for th Rams, the Rams are going to be targeted and labeled as bigots or bowing to pressure from Christians or right wing organizations.
The NFL was downplaying the prospects of Sam being drafted that Thursday and especially on Friday knowing what would happen if he didn't get drafted
When pre season comes around, I guarantee the sports networks are going to go out of their way to focus on the Saint Louis Rams and Sam personally, and it won't because they think he's going to be the next big thing at the linebacker position. If news comes out that a player or players feel uncomfortable showering with Sam, the media is going to make those player's life a living hell and so will the Velvet Mafia.
p allen "White Christians have "TWO strikes against them" when it comes to television reality shows? Are you serious Tyrone? Why would you fabricate and perpetuate such a fantasy?"
When will you learn allen, I know of what I speak? Have you forgotten how the velvet mafia targeted Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty? Isn't he and the males white Christians? One more example just recently as in a few days ago,
HGTV bowed to the Rainbow Mafia and cancelled the reality show of the Benham brothers who are "white Christians"
p allen "Out of the 46 new reality shows slated for the spring, 45 percent are comprised of an exclusively white cast, 28 percent are predominantly black, and 26 percent have multicultural cast members (including Kimora Lee Simmons’s show and the Dominican cast of Washington Heights)"."
What was left out of what you posted from the GRIO story, the religious make up of the casts of their shows. Let me clarify something if I didn't make myself clear. I didn't mean to say that White Christians can't land reality shows, I'm saying that they are more of a target if they speak out on their faith especially about either homosexuality or the homosexual agenda even if it's not related to the shows they are working on.
This has really more so to do with the Rainbow Mafia then anything else.
p allen "Moreover, there are several "faith based" reality shows that feature White and Black cast members. Yet AGAIN, you've chosen to negate and twist the facts to incite conservatives with ANOTHER false premise."
And what networks are they one and what are the names of the shows ahnd have the casts of those shows presented their position on homosexuality allen? Feel free to answer those questions, thanks.
>>>Again how did you know about the unwritten rule, when it wasn't written. How did you become privileged to it?<<<
You're asking me where the unwritten rules are written.
*elbows on the desk, head buried in my hands*
"The professional sports locker room can be a scary place, with unwritten rules and political rankings that include which players get lockers next to each other -- or far, far away from one another."
http://www.cbc.ca/strombo/news/being-gay-in-the-nfl-the-secrets-the-culture-the-pressure-the-fear-of-comin
"That's why it was great for Michael to do this so early, so some of the written rules and unwritten rules about how you treat people will be addressed and there won't be discrimination. You have to treat people fairly."
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-brendon-ayanbadejo-calls-michael-sam-a-pioneer-in-tradition-of-jackie-robinson-rosa-parks-martin-lut-20140212,0,687006.story#ixzz322aca5TA
CB;"And what networks are they one and what are the names of the shows ahnd have the casts of those shows presented their position on homosexuality allen? Feel free to answer those questions, thanks".
Ahhhh... whuuuuud? Wasn't just a few short keystrokes ago you wrote;
"When will you learn allen, I know of what I speak?".
Yet you dare to ask what the name of "those shows", and has the cast presented their views? Obviously, you don't know, hence, you might want to take your shoe off before you put that foot in your mouth...
Preachers of L.A..
Preachers Daughters.
The Sisterhood.
Diva's For Jesus.
Thicker Than Water.
And don't forget your local TV stations that airs "Christian" programming every Sunday morning.
As far as the religious folks views on homosexuality, is it really that difficult for you to figure out what their sentiments might be?
Here's what happens when you forward your false meme Tyrone. When you write or say that Christians are "under attack" from non-Christians and homosexuals, you cause the "low information" religious types, and those who are not so stable and/or bright to think that it's their duty to counter attack. Just as you had NO KNOWLEDGE (aka, low information) that there were indeed SEVERAL Faith Based Reality Shows, others like you will in turn cry foul.
After the election of President Obama the "low information" crowd was fed this rehashed gem of dis- and mis- information. (aka, A LIE!)
O'Hare petition To Ban Religious TV Programming. In November 2008 I took a class at the local college where a student (he was a white conservative of course) actually argued with the instructor that the nonsense email was true! Needless to say, he continued to parrot the lie he had been told (or read) even though it was completely false and had been totally debunked. It was if he was being forced to believe it. Hence, "low information."
Big Pop;"I have not seen NFL players such as the brothers Hamza and Husain Abdullah and other Muslim players be given the same treatment like Tim Tebow".
I'm assuming that you believe Tebow was treated with, as you claim, "ridicule" for being a devout Christian. Why would you want the Muslim players to be ridiculed? No athlete should be ridiculed because of their religious beliefs. Moreover, Tebow was not ridiculed because of his beliefs. Tebow's "actions" led many in the media, and many in the sport to question him. His open and visible proselytizing on the field of play became a concern.
If Tebow were allowed to "preach a sermon" on the field during the game, perhaps Muslims should be able to bow and pray toward Mecca on the 50 yard line between plays.
Big Pop;"Since being a devout Christian is a "crime" to many progressives".
That's the kind of rhetoric that will surely get you mocked. Mind you, progressives won't mock you for your religion, rather, you'll be mocked for believing it's considered a "crime."
smalhd but""That's why it was great for Michael to do this so early, so some of the written rules and unwritten rules about how you treat people will be addressed and there won't be discrimination. You have to treat people fairly."
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-brendon-ayanbadejo-calls-michael-sam-a-pioneer-in-tradition-of-jackie-robinson-rosa-parks-martin-lut-20140212,0,687006.story#ixzz322aca5TA
I can really give a rat's ass pardon my french what brendon ayanbadejo says. I've never thought much of him while he was in Baltimore. He was more known for being a rainbow warrior then a special teams player. I was so glad when Harbs finally cut him. He's been known while in Baltimore to say some very stupid things and his latest words just validate that. Sam will never be in the same light as Rosa Parks or Jackie Robinson. Jackie Robinson was the first black person to play major league baseball, Michael Sam is not the first gay person ever drafted in the NFL. That's contrast number one. Rosa Parks broke the WRITTEN rule that a black person is suppose to give up his or her seat to a white person. She went to jail for her disobeying the that racist law. Both Rose Parks and Jackie Robinson actually had to sufffer infliction for their actions, Michael Sam never did, again that's another contrast. Sorry but there was not court injunction demanding the NFL lift some sort of gay Jim Crow law against gays. This was no Montgomery Bus boycott nor Brown vs the Board of Education moment in history. If the NFL had an open ban on gays and Sam was the first to be allowed following the elimination of that ban, then it might be somewhat news worth, but that's not the case. Think of it like this. If I tried out for the United States men Olympic Curling team and I was accepted, I would be the first black member in history of US Curling. Was there an unwritten rule for th reason why no other blacks were members or was it simply that blacks had no interest in the sport so they never tried? What Michael Sam does at home is his own business, so what was the reason for bringing his sexuality in the locker room and expecting to be celebrated for doing so? To me and others it sounds like this was simply a "look at me I'm gay, celebrate me I'm special" moment. Yesterday, the Preakness took place.The ownwers of the 20-1 horse Kid Cruz are a gay couple, and they were hoping that their horse would have won so that they
could have a Michael Sam moment. Thankfully the Preakness wasn't turned into another look at us we're gay speculate and California Chrome won. As for Sam, the locker room isn't gong to change just because of him. It's just not. Is there going to be a policy by the Rams in which players must interact with Sam? What if they chose not to, is the media and gay activists going to single those players out not for being mean but simply not wanting anything to do with him?
p allen "Yet you dare to ask what the name of "those shows", and has the cast presented their views? Obviously, you don't know, hence, you might want to take your shoe off before you put that foot in your mouth..."
Follow your own advice, and put your shoes back on. Here's Democratic Congressman Allan Grayson on Bil Maher labeling White Christian Males as racists
I'm sure you've heard of the supposed White Christian Terrorist War right?
You remember Obama's "bitter clingers comment I'm sure. Calling people who live in small towns who are Christian and gun owners racist xenophobes
Again, I know of what I speak. Furthermore, You miss the whole point of what I was saying, but that is nothing really new when it comes to you allen. My point wasn't that White Christians can't get reality television shows. Duck Dynasty and the Benham's HGTV show weren't about Christianity, the stars just happened to be Christianity, but their views in defending Traditional Marriages made them targets by the Rainbow Mafia.
CB;"My point wasn't that White Christians can't get reality television shows".
REALLY???? Come on now Tyrone! We've been going back and forth on your blog for how long now... 7..8 years? You know I'm not stupid, so don't even try it...
You wrote this; "I don't think when Tim Tebow was in the NFL, he was offered his own reality show but then again Tim Tebow was a Christian and he was white, so that was two strikes against him right there"".
SO I informed you; "Moreover, there are several "faith based" reality shows that feature White and Black cast members. Yet AGAIN, you've chosen to negate and twist the facts to incite conservatives with ANOTHER false premise".
Then you ASKED; "And what networks are they one and what are the names of the shows ahnd have the casts of those shows presented their position on homosexuality allen? Feel free to answer those questions, thanks".
So I gave you PROOF, listing the shows with links to their websites! Now you're attempting to claim, "My point wasn't that White Christians can't get reality television shows??????" When you clearly asked "what are the shows" clearly
Allow me to ask a question here Tyrone. Do all black conservatives suffer from this same type of affliction? Is it a prerequisite that you ignore facts and truth in order to keep your "black conservative credentials?" I ask because I recently say a video of several black conservatives holding a presser about the fringe racist that have infiltrated the Tea Party. For some strange reason, they can't think straight either. Each one stepped up to the microphone and emphatically stated that they have not seen or heard of any racist statements, assertions or public displays made by anyone involved with Tea Party groups.
Frankly, I have not seen such a level of sheer blind stupidity. The first thing that came to mind was THIS POSTER which each of those images, and those responsible for them have been tied directly (and some admittedly) to Tea Party members or a particular TP group official. The second thing that came to mind was the Dave Chappelle comedy skit where he portrayed a blind KKK member.
It seems as though the election of Barack Obama has had a "residual effect" on black conservatives. I'm convinced that "MOST" of you are not thinking for yourselves.
>>>Think of it like this. If I tried out for the United States men Olympic Curling team and I was accepted, I would be the first black member in history of US Curling. Was there an unwritten rule for th reason why no other blacks were members or was it simply that blacks had no interest in the sport so they never tried?<<<
Sports that require thousands of dollars of equipment & training fees, country club memberships, and trips to expensive, exclusive locales will continue to seem as segregated as the Jim Crow South. Think tennis. Think golf. Think hockey and a banana thrown at Anson Carter in a 2004 game. Etc. Etc. Etc.
If you made the U.S. men’s curling team, you’d be a notable, positive story. You’d also receive communiqués from good ol’ American folks calling you a nigger like they did with speed skater Shani Davis when he broke on to the worldwide scene in 2006.
>>>Sam will never be in the same light as Rosa Parks or Jackie Robinson. Jackie Robinson was the first black person to play major league baseball, Michael Sam is not the first gay person ever drafted in the NFL.<<<
Robinson was NOT first.
Moses Fleetwood Walker was the first black man to play Major League Baseball. He was chased out of the professional game in 1889 after the minor International League OFFICIALLY banned blacks and the major National & American leagues UNOFFICIALLY banned them. This ban was an UNWRITTEN RULE, an invisible color line, which was broken by Robinson nearly 60 years later.
Michael Sam, however, IS the first openly gay man drafted in the NFL. Homosexual athletes before him were subjected to – and in more recent times, one could say subjected themselves to – an UNWRITTEN sort of don’t-ask-don’t-tell policy.
“No we don’t got no gay people on the team, they gotta get up out of here if they do. … Can’t be with that sweet stuff. Nah. Can’t be in the locker room, man. Nah.” – This wasn’t said in 1943, ’53, or ’63. This was said in 2013 by a San Francisco 49er on the Super Bowl media stage.
Allen-"If Sam come's out on the field in drag, I'll have a major problem with it. If he begins every game kissing his boyfriend on the sideline, I'll be the first to say he's gotta' go. If he's found to be making sexual advances on his team mates, pinching his nipples in ecstasy after making great plays, or taunting other players by grabbing their buts, I'll sign any and every petition against him. But we'll just have to wait and see if he put's his "personal beliefs and lifestyle" on display on the field.
Reminds me of a joke I heard a long time ago: Why do athletes slap each other on the rears, the back, the hands and give each other a hug after their teammate made a great play? Because kissing delays the game.
Allen-"I'm assuming that you believe Tebow was treated with, as you claim, "ridicule" for being a devout Christian. Why would you want the Muslim players to be ridiculed? No athlete should be ridiculed because of their religious beliefs. Moreover, Tebow was not ridiculed because of his beliefs. Tebow's "actions" led many in the media, and many in the sport to question him. His open and visible proselytizing on the field of play became a concern."
Who says I want the Muslims to be ridiculed? Whatever one's faith is, that is their belief. However, the only Muslims I take exception to and whom I will make fun of are the Islamist extremists.
If the Abdullah brother, or any Muslim athletes want to be on the fifty-yard line and bow and pray toward Mecca, that is their business. I will say same thing to other athletes of the Christian faith. If Muslim athletes were to do that, it wouldn't surprise me, since the liberal media is so soft on Islam (namely the extremists) that they would give them a free-pass. But the media had a field day with Tebow's genuflection by creating a neologistic word, "Tebowing". Imagine if someone were to create a term in reference to the Abdulah brothers praying to Mecca on the sidelines called "Abdullahing." The media would call that person out for being anti-Muslim.
Since I mentioned the late Reggie White, who was a Christian and an ordained minister, aka "The Minister of Defense", suppose if Tebow were to put to be called "The Minister of Offense", I wouldn't know if he would be getting the same respect as Reggie White has.
-BP
p allen "REALLY???? Come on now Tyrone! We've been going back and forth on your blog for how long now... 7..8 years? You know I'm not stupid, so don't even try it..."
I'm going to whistle in the wind in that one allen.It's tempting lol
p allen "You wrote this; "I don't think when Tim Tebow was in the NFL, he was offered his own reality show but then again Tim Tebow was a Christian and he was white, so that was two strikes against him right there"".
Tim Tebow was not offered a reality show when he was drafted right or wrong? Yes or No? Simple question. Tebow was offered an appearance on the bachelor, but was he offered his OWN reality show? If the answer is no, then why was Sam offered one before sitting foot on the NFL field? Maybe I should have clarified my comment but forgetting that liberals can't pick up on some things. Think for a second, the Robertson family got a reality show and are mainly white Christian males. You can focus on a subpoint of what I said, I'm going to focus on the main point which is Michael Sam will never be treated and mocked like Tim Tebow was, period. So if you want to focus on a sub point of what I said, have at it. This is the gist of my whole argument. Hopefully now that is clarified for you or do I need to break it down even more?
p allen "You wrote this; "I don't think when Tim Tebow was in the NFL, he was offered his own reality show but then again Tim Tebow was a Christian and he was white, so that was two strikes against him right there""."
Notice I never said that Tim Tebow was never offered a "Christian nor faith based" reality show allen!!Look at what you wrote.
p allen "SO I informed you; "Moreover, there are several "faith based" reality shows that feature White and Black cast members. Yet AGAIN, you've chosen to negate and twist the facts to incite conservatives with ANOTHER false premise"."
You brought in the "faith part in a reality" show not me, I said simply he wasn't offered "a reality show", again you injected the religious theme of a reality show. I was talking about a reality show that shadows Tebow's everyday life like Duck Dynasty or and shadowing in the day of the life style show.So I guess you are going to correct yourself in stating that I said Tebow wasn't offered a "faith based" reality show, when I never said that right allen?
p allen "Allow me to ask a question here Tyrone. Do all black conservatives suffer from this same type of affliction? Is it a prerequisite that you ignore facts and truth in order to keep your "black conservative credentials?"
Naaarf!!!! I have credientials as a black conservative?!! Shazam!!! Shazam!!! Shazam!! Wow allen, I dind't know I had credentials as a black conservatives, and here I thought I was just a black guy with a certain set of values. So what exactly are my credentials. Are they kind of like a discount card thing or what? If I buy 2 conservative books, I get the third for free or how does my credentials work? I
p allen "I ask because I recently say a video of several black conservatives holding a presser about the fringe racist that have infiltrated the Tea Party. For some strange reason, they can't think straight either. Each one stepped up to the microphone and emphatically stated that they have not seen or heard of any racist statements, assertions or public displays made by anyone involved with Tea Party groups."
Be honest (which is hard for you). You know I've always said that racism exists everywhere on both the right AND THE LEFT. You allen seem to have a problem acknowledging the fringe racist element within you own camp. I've presented countless evidence over the years of racism within the Democratic Party and within the progressive movement in general.So I am the one dealing in the truth and as usual you want to ignore it. It's common sense that racist people come in all races, creeds, nationalities and ideologies.
p allen "Frankly, I have not seen such a level of sheer blind stupidity."
Let's test the concept of sheer blind stupidity allen. Give examples of racism within the Democratic and progressive movement.
p allen "It seems as though the election of Barack Obama has had a "residual effect" on black conservatives. I'm convinced that "MOST" of you are not thinking for yourselves."
Interesting statement. As a conservative who is black, tell me how my thought process differed back when Bush was President compared to that now of Obama's? Furthermore, I was a conservative long before I even knew what a conservative was based on my values growing up allen, so obviously I must have been thinking for myself obviously.
ofjets benefit"Sports that require thousands of dollars of equipment & training fees, country club memberships, and trips to expensive, exclusive locales will continue to seem as segregated as the Jim Crow South. Think tennis. Think golf. Think hockey and a banana thrown at Anson Carter in a 2004 game. Etc. Etc. Etc."
OR maybe it could be that blacks have no interest in playing hockey or golf? Is it golf and hockey's fault that most blacks like basketball and football? Baseball is easily accessible for blacks to play, there are base ball public fields everywhere, blacks still don't like baseball. Who's fault is that?
ofjets benefit "If you made the U.S. men’s curling team, you’d be a notable, positive story. You’d also receive communiqués from good ol’ American folks calling you a nigger like they did with speed skater Shani Davis when he broke on to the worldwide scene in 2006.
And why would the actions of some foolish people stop me from doing what I want to do? If names hurt a person so much, it just shows how weak that person is. Jackie Robinson endured much racial name taunting and like a man he stuck it out and never let it get to him. Just throwing it out there. Real men do what they want to do, weak men fear of what others will say.
ofjets benefit "Michael Sam, however, IS the first openly gay man drafted in the NFL. Homosexual athletes before him were subjected to – and in more recent times, one could say subjected themselves to – an UNWRITTEN sort of don’t-ask-don’t-tell policy."
But what does his gayness has to do with professional football nothing? Here's the thing. Sam and his supporters want to make his sexuality an issue and about how historic he is etc, but on the flip side, they will get ticked off when Sam is labeled "that gay player" or singled out.
ofjets benefit"No we don’t got no gay people on the team, they gotta get up out of here if they do. … Can’t be with that sweet stuff. Nah. Can’t be in the locker room, man. Nah.” – This wasn’t said in 1943, ’53, or ’63. This was said in 2013 by a San Francisco 49er on the Super Bowl media stage."
My question is why was Chris Culliver asked that question to begin with during Superbowl week? You and others didn't like his response, but his response was his to make. The question is why did the media ask him such a question during the Superbowl which had zero to do with sexuality? Even if Culliver would have said "I have no comment" the media would have then pressed him for an answer but for what reason?
Ah yes. Bigoted, anti-gay, fundamentalist minister Reggie White.
Oh if he were only alive today to comment about Michael Sam!
ACM: "I don't fear gays ... I have no phobia"
“Homophobic” Doublespeak. ...terms coined by George Orwell in his book “1984”. Double Speak can be defined as: “language that deliberately disguises, distorts, or reverses the meaning of words. Doublespeak may take the form of euphemisms (e.g., "downsizing" for layoffs, "servicing the target" for bombing).... It may also refer to intentional ambiguity in language or to ACTUAL INVERSION OF MEANING (for example, naming a state of war "peace"). In such cases, doublespeak disguises the nature of the truth. Doublespeak is most closely associated with political language.”
http://www.examiner.com/article/orwellian-double-speak-and-newspeak-obama-on-nsa-reform
As for me, I use the terms homosexual or sodomite or same-sex, because I am not going for this “gay” euphemism. I refuse to use “homophobic” for anyone who like God and Jesus opposes it as sin. Likewise I refuse to say “islamophobic” for anyone who exposes or resist jihad's lying deceiving murdering quest for tyranny. I refuse to refer generally to a non-Muslim as “infidel” especially a faithful Christian who is the exact OPPOSITE of an infidel (see 2 Corinth. 6:15). On homosexuals / sodomites, whatever civil rights granted to them, THEY NEVER HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE MARRIAGE WHICH IN THE BEGINNING WAS CREATED BY GOD. Nor do they have the right to impose such sin and abnormality, upon normal people attracted to the other gender, the way God made Adam and Eve for each other (not Adam and Steve).
“When speaking w/liberals, be calm n always remember. Democrats Shift the subject, Ignore the facts, and if that doesn't work, they begin name calling.” https://twitter.com/WayneDupreeShow
By not drinking anyone's political koolaid. By not accepting Big Brother's definitions of his weasel words. By not being easily pigeonholed or stereotyped. By trusting the wisdom that blends knowledge into understanding. I expose the so-called gray area and the purple rhetoric for what they are, and I am not ashamed to confess the true blue. That is why I am Indigo.
eigueA guage "Ah yes. Bigoted, anti-gay, fundamentalist minister Reggie White.Oh if he were only alive today to comment about Michael Sam!"
Don't worry, there are plenty of Bigoted, anti-Christian folks to comment on Phil Roberston, the former CEO and co founder of Mozilla, the Benham Brothers, Tim Tebow etc So it all balances out.
Indigo "“Homophobic” Doublespeak. ...terms coined by George Orwell in his book “1984”. Double Speak can be defined as: “language that deliberately disguises, distorts, or reverses the meaning of words. Doublespeak may take the form of euphemisms (e.g., "downsizing" for layoffs, "servicing the target" for bombing).... It may also refer to intentional ambiguity in language or to ACTUAL INVERSION OF MEANING (for example, naming a state of war "peace"). In such cases, doublespeak disguises the nature of the truth. Doublespeak is most closely associated with political language.”
http://www.examiner.com/article/orwellian-double-speak-and-newspeak-obama-on-nsa-reform"
So very true Indigo. Liberals are masters at distorting issues and terminology. They refer to abortion as "reproductive healthcare", which of course abortion is the "opposite" of reproduction. First they claimed global warming existed, but when the date showed that temps were actually cooling, they created the term "Cimate Change" so they can claim they are right however the weather swifts. They are deceptive frauds. If you support supporting legal immigration onnly, they're still call you "anti immigrant". A critical thinker will always be able to cut through their twisting of words, always. They call me a "homophobe" fine, I'll call them a "Bibliphobe". I can create phobias aimed at them just as they can towards us. Now that I think about it, maybe they are "straightaphobes", maybe they fear straight people. lol
It steams them so much you their tactics are used against them and mocked.
Indigo "On homosexuals / sodomites, whatever civil rights granted to them, THEY NEVER HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE MARRIAGE WHICH IN THE BEGINNING WAS CREATED BY GOD. Nor do they have the right to impose such sin and abnormality, upon normal people attracted to the other gender, the way God made Adam and Eve for each other (not Adam and Steve)."
That's the argument they have a problem confronting. You're right. Marriage isn't an institution that was created by the government. So technically the government can't grant anyone the right to do something that's not in it's power to control since it's not it's creation.
Indigo "When speaking w/liberals, be calm n always remember. Democrats Shift the subject, Ignore the facts, and if that doesn't work, they begin name calling.” https://twitter.com/WayneDupreeShow"
Saul Alinsky, Rules for Radicals. I altered it a bit and broke it down to DIP
(D)eflect attention away from the subject matter they can't defend against
(I)solate the messenger of the criticism they can't defend against
(P)olarize and stigmatize the messenger as the true problem in an effort to invalidate their message.
If a person doesn't support Obama on foreign policy, the left will call that person a racist. Now that topic is foreign policy but since they can't defend Obama's foreign policy, the liberals will simply label the person a racist as a way smear his argument against Obama's foreign policy.
An excerpt from the late, great Reggie White's epic March 1998 speech to the Wisconsin Legislature:
"As America has permitted homosexuality to establish itself as an alternate lifestyle, it is also reeling from the frightening spread of sexually transmitted disease. Sin begets its own consequence, both on individuals and nations.
"Let me explain something when I'm talking about sin, and I'm talking about all sin. One of the biggest ones that has been talked about that has really become a debate in America is homosexuality.
"Now, I believe that one of the reasons that Jesus was accused of being a homosexual is because he spent time with homosexuals. I've often had people ask me, would you allow a homosexual to be your friend. Yes, I will. And the reason I will is because I know that that person has problems, and if I can minister to those problems, I will.
"But the Bible strictly speaks against it, and because the Bible speaks against it, we allow rampant sin including homosexuality and lying, and to me lying is just as bad as homosexuality, we've allowed this sin to run rampant in our nation, and because it has run rampant in our nation, our nation is in the condition it is today.
"I'm offended that homosexuals will say that homosexuals deserve rights. Any man in America deserves rights, but homosexuals are trying to compare their plight with the plight of black men or black people. In the process of history, homosexuals have never been castrated, millions of them never died. Homosexuality is a decision. It's not a race. And when you look at it, people from all different ethnic backgrounds are living this lifestyle, but people from all different ethnic backgrounds are also liars and cheaters and malicious and backstabbers.
"We're in sin, and because this nation is in sin, god will judge it if we don't get it right."
>>>Tim Tebow was not offered a reality show when he was drafted right or wrong? Yes or No? Simple question.<<<
Tebow was celebrated by many people. Others weren’t as thrilled about him.
Sam is being celebrated by many people. Others, such as yourself, are quite outspoken against him.
So what IS your point, Tyrone? Other than to chronologically pinpoint the exact instance of a reality-show offer during each man’s career?
>>>OR maybe it could be that blacks have no interest in playing hockey or golf? Is it golf and hockey's fault that most blacks like basketball and football? Baseball is easily accessible for blacks to play, there are base ball public fields everywhere, blacks still don't like baseball. Who's fault is that?<<<
Tennis, golf, hockey, etc. are very expensive and some might say exclusive to a certain income bracket. You hear about a lot of rural kids in hockey, but rarely did they grow up dirt-poor.
Football and basketball can provide a faster payoff . 22-year-old rookies are predominant in the NFL and in the NBA they can start younger.
Making the majors is a much tougher slog. Several anonymous years in the bushes straight out of high school, or just a couple years in the minors plus three or four years of college (which is anonymous compared to college football and hoops) is the standard route. There are not a ton of 22-year-old rookies playing in Major League Baseball.
>>>And why would the actions of some foolish people stop me from doing what I want to do?<<<
Just reminding you of the reality in 2014.
>>>But what does his gayness has to do with professional football nothing? Here's the thing. Sam and his supporters want to make his sexuality an issue and about how historic he is etc, but on the flip side, they will get ticked off when Sam is labeled "that gay player" or singled out.<<<
Did the countless, new African-American Dodgers fans from coast to coast in 1947 – and yes, Brooklyn immediately became ‘Black America’s Team’ -- “get ticked off” when Robinson was labled “that black player” or “singled out”?
>>>My question is why was Chris Culliver asked that question to begin with during Superbowl week? You and others didn't like his response, but his response was his to make. The question is why did the media ask him such a question during the Superbowl which had zero to do with sexuality? Even if Culliver would have said "I have no comment" the media would have then pressed him for an answer but for what reason?<<<
Are you a football fan? Do you know what happens during the week before the Super Bowl?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AGVHeldoD8
And no, nobody would have noticed or cared if he said “no comment” to Artie Frickin Lange.
>>>If a person doesn't support Obama on foreign policy, the left will call that person a racist. Now that topic is foreign policy but since they can't defend Obama's foreign policy, the liberals will simply label the person a racist as a way smear his argument against Obama's foreign policy.<<<
Every U.S. President faces criticism and resistance, but I don’t remember anyone demanding to see Bill Clinton’s birth certificate.
CB;"Tim Tebow was not offered a reality show when he was drafted right or wrong? Yes or No? Simple question. Tebow was offered an appearance on the bachelor, but was he offered his OWN reality show? If the answer is no, then why was Sam offered one before sitting foot on the NFL field?".
Tyrone, that question couldn't be more silly if you tried! Better still, try this... why wasn't EVERY OTHER PLAYER DRAFTED BY THE NFL OFFERED A REALITY SHOW? Was every other player offered a reality show...yes or no? You're really stretching the envelope Tyrone.
Tebow wasn't offered a show because only people like you would watch. You know what that translates to? NO RATINGS! That's the idea behind television Tyrone. RATINGS! You know that, yet you keep twisting and turning in a failed attempt to cover for your asinine "Christian and white two strike" statement.
Tebow is doing just fine without a reality TV show. I'd bet he could care less about having one.
ACM "They call me a "homophobe" fine, I'll call them a "Bibliphobe". I can create phobias aimed at them just as they can towards us. Now that I think about it, maybe they are "straightaphobes", maybe they fear straight people. lol
Ha ha! Thanks for the laugh. In 1 and 2 Corinthians, Paul the apostle sometimes used understatement, irony and even hyperbole, to try to reach the weak carnal minded at Corinth. Anyway, I think I will sometimes play the back-at-you "phobe" game too!
p allen "Tyrone, that question couldn't be more silly if you tried! Better still, try this... why wasn't EVERY OTHER PLAYER DRAFTED BY THE NFL OFFERED A REALITY SHOW? Was every other player offered a reality show...yes or no? You're really stretching the envelope Tyrone."
The question is only silly to you, because you are calling it silly to mask your inability to honestly answer it allen, thus attack the question. Offering him an "appearance" on a show and offering "his own" show are too completely things.
p allen "Tebow wasn't offered a show because only people like you would watch."
I guess only people like me watch Duck Dynasty, even though I've never seen one episode, however people like me made
Duck Dynasty one of the highest rated shows on cable especially in it's return, <a hrefhttp://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/2013-ratings-fox-news-1-for-12-straight-years-sheds-viewers-too_b208937=">people like me made the Fox News channel the number one cable news channel for 12year and counting</a>
So your logic in typical fashion allen is flawed. Besides if Tebow wasn't offered his own show like Michael Sam, then why was he offered an appearance on the Bachelor as you said if only people like me were going to watch?
p allen "You know what that translates to? NO RATINGS!"
So I guess then you are saying that the Bachelor wanted no ratings then, that's why they reached out to Tebow so that they could commit ratings sucide then right? I can't argue with your reasoning, it's just so absurd. lol
p allen "That's the idea behind television Tyrone. RATINGS! You know that, yet you keep twisting and turning in a failed attempt to cover for your asinine "Christian and white two strike" statement."
You are the one twisting your words up allen, saying that I was said Tebow wasn't ofered a "Christian" based program when I never said anything of the sort. So until you say you were wrong, I'm not going to comment any further on it.
iaryrak vom "Every U.S. President faces criticism and resistance, but I don’t remember anyone demanding to see Bill Clinton’s birth certificate."
Not every president had a father who was not a citizen of the country either.
On the flip side, wasn't Juan McLame's paternity criticized? So it would appear that there was parity With the 2016 elections coming up it's a guarantee that Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio are going to go through the same thing that McLame and Obama went through. So no smoking gun.
service tettery "Tebow was celebrated by many people. Others weren’t as thrilled about him.
Sam is being celebrated by many people. Others, such as yourself, are quite outspoken against him.""
This is why Tim Tebow was celebrated in the NFL
As for me being outspoken against Sam, it doesn't matter what I say. History will be the ultimate judge. What I say is irrelevant. I'm not the CEO of the St Louis Rams.
service tettery"So what IS your point, Tyrone? Other than to chronologically pinpoint the exact instance of a reality-show offer during each man’s career?"
My point is simply, I just wish Michael Sam gets the same equal amount of criticism and mocking from the media that Tebow got, in the name of "equality" of course. That's all I want.
>>>My point is simply, I just wish Michael Sam gets the same equal amount of criticism and mocking from the media that Tebow got, in the name of "equality" of course. That's all I want.<<<
Tim ‘Tebowed’ on the sidelines with the Gators and nobody cared. Nobody.
Before he got drafted it was debated whether or not he should be picked as a QB or converted to TE or elsewhere. His abilities were debated and doubted from the start. He was a polarizing football figure before he became a national religious figure.
People got riled up after a Detroit linebacker ‘Tebowed’ after sacking Tebow in an NFL game. A big-boy game. Was Stephen Tulloch “mocking” Christianity? Or was he sticking someone’s trademark physical shtick back up their own ass – which is always AWESOME to watch. It was about football.
This argument about Christians being “mocked” and “attacked” is bullshit. Pure bullshit.
But if it’s a choice between religious doctrine or human rights, I’m going with the latter. True equality.
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