Sonya Sotmayor's liberal allies target attacks on New Haven Firefighter Frank Ricci.
The latest victim to experience the Saul Alinsky attacks by the left is New Haven Firefighter Frank Ricci. When liberals can't defend their causes or ideology against those that challenge them, they have to try and take out the messenger in an effort to "discredit the message". On the eve of the Sotomayor's confirmation hearing, the left is gearing up to aid Sonya by trying to get the media to dig up dirt on Frank Ricci. Some of you may be asking, "What does Frank Ricci's personal life has to do with Sotomayor's confirmation: I was hoping someone could tell me.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 11:48 PM
19 Comments:
She's trying to get attention off of her racist associations. Frank Ricci is getting the same treatment the media gave to Joe the Plumber. Poor Guy it seems fascist thuggery and liberalism go hand in hand!
I'm more scared of these so called progressives than I am of the KKK. These Leftwing thugs are KKK boys in PC garb!
Chilerkle;"I'm more scared of these so called progressives than I am of the KKK. These Leftwing thugs are KKK boys in PC garb!".
Damn progressive leftwing liberal thugs, riding through the night under their hoods hiding their faces, planting bombs in churches killing children, burn homes of Black people, lynching blacks, and advocating segregation of the races!! Oh yeaahhh, leftwing progressives are much more "scary" than the KKK...Hell, a black woman would be treated more kindly at a KKK rally than any Liberal gathering...right?
Tyrone, I do agree that attacking Frank Ricci's personal life is unnecessary. Ricci is not up for confirmation to anything, so he should be allowed to just go on and state his peace. What he has done in his own life has no effect on the confirmation of Sotomayor.
On the other hand, what is pertinent to Ricci and the New Haven Firefighter case, is the law suit that he brought against that city in 1995..
In that case Ricci sued the City of New Haven because he was "NOT HIRED" after scoring lower than other applicants on the written exam. Ricci's reason for bringing the law suit against the city was that he suffers from "Dyslexia".
I questioned the idea of the so-called "race neutral test" given to the New Haven fire fighters. I questioned why none of the black firefighters scored in the top 10. Neither have I read nor heard any comments from the Black firefighters.
The information on Ricci's 1995 lawsuit, and the other questions, leads me to believe there is more to the New Haven case than meets the eye...
Chilerkle "She's trying to get attention off of her racist associations. Frank Ricci is getting the same treatment the media gave to Joe the Plumber. Poor Guy it seems fascist thuggery and liberalism go hand in hand!"
So very very very true Chilerkle. Liberals know all about "character assassination". I didn't watch the first day of the liberal butt kissing of Sotomayor, thank goodness I had something of importance to do Chilerkle. I did hear a clip from the dim witted mouth piece Senator Patrick Leahy from Vermont. That is the same state the produced Howard Dean, so it does says a lot. I heard this on Hannity's show today. Leahy said
"She's been a judge for all Americans," said Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., and "she'll be a justice for all Americans."
I would love to take a foam nerf bat and just smack Leahy around for a few minutes Chilerkle. "She's been a judge for all Americans"??! What the hell was that fool talking about?!!! Leahy is a great example Chilerkle why I have so contempt for career politicians. Leahy's comments were BEYOND STUPID. "She'll be a justice for all Americans"?! Me just repeating Leahy's own words has made my IQ drop. A Supreme Court Justices job is to interrupt the constitution. I guess Leahy flunked Civics and Constitutional Law 101.
Chilerkle "I'm more scared of these so called progressives than I am of the KKK. These Leftwing thugs are KKK boys in PC garb!"
The Klan and Liberals have something in common Chilerkle. The Klan hides their identity behind sheets. Liberals hide their true nature behind the illusion of compassion and tolerance.
p allen responding to Chilerkle "Damn progressive leftwing liberal thugs, riding through the night under their hoods hiding their faces, planting bombs in churches killing children, burn homes of Black people, lynching blacks, and advocating segregation of the races!! Oh yeaahhh, leftwing progressives are much more "scary" than the KKK...Hell, a black woman would be treated more kindly at a KKK rally than any Liberal gathering...right?
If that black woman is a conservative, then the answer is NO Allen!!!That black woman would be attacked by liberals because shes a conservative. White liberals see blacks as nothing more then a dependable vote. If liberals cared about blacks in general, they wouldn't call blacks racial names merely for exercising ideological diversity. Also allen, don't liberals torch car dealerships, housing developments and animal laboratories allen? If you say no,do the animal and earth liberation fronts r"ELF and ALF "ring a bell?
CB;"If that black woman is a conservative, then the answer is NO Allen!!!.
Man O' man Tyrone... I really must sound convincing! Sorry to let you down but, I was really being facetious.
However, there are stark differences between the KKK and Liberal groups.
-First off, you must be White to join the KKK.
-Whereas, Liberal groups will accept just about anybody!
-The KKK's mission statement tout's Christianity as it's core [actually the "only") religion it practices.
-Liberals don't care if you have any religion at all!
-The KKK are "pro-America" and patriotic, and against all other forms of government.
-Liberals are open to alternative forms of governance and believe that America is not always right in some endeavors.
-The KKK is anti-immigrant [illegal and legal] if the immigrants are non-white.
-Liberals...hell, for the most part don't care about immigration.
-The KKK is against abortion, affirmative action, same sex marriage, detest public schools, against gun control, against government spending on social programs and government taxation.
-Liberal are on the opposite side of all of those issues.
Wait a minute! Each one of those issue's addressed by the KKK (barring the "White's only" rule) are the "SAME" as those of the Conservatives!!! Four out of FIVE...NO wonder!!!
It's no wonder that conservatives are more accepting of the KKK than Liberals. There is a distinct possibility that a KKK (Knight Party) candidate could come to the forefront if enough white's are convinced that President Obama is racist against them.
Nice try Allen on the Ad hominem attack but We know how you leftists side with genocidal dictators and condone the destruction of private property and use personal attacks. I wouldn't put it past leftists to make death threats against people they hate.
Nice try on the deflection. Leftists and the KKK are very much an army of kind because they are both hate-filled ideologues! They oppress people they disagree with. At least the KKK is honest about holding backs down unlike the left!
Allen sorry the kkk haTES THE SAME PEOPLE THE iSLAMIC PEOPLE HATE. cATHOLICS, jEWS AND bLACKS. In Florida the Nazi have joined with the Muslims to destroy America. No where can Blacks live as we do in America. Muslims scholars say slavery is Islami and they plan to enslave us again to please allah. allah said we were created black to be slaves for whites.
Chilerkle;"Nice try Allen on the Ad hominem attack but We know how you leftists side with genocidal dictators and condone the destruction of private property and use personal attacks. I wouldn't put it past leftists to make death threats against people they hate..
Thanks for the kudo's Chil!
First off, what ad hominem attack??
I certainly didn't post it... If you don't know what an "ad hominem" attack is, you shouldn't accuse someone of using one....ya' think?
I was merely commenting on your statement that you're "more scared of these so called progressives than you are of the KKK." As Anon said, if you're Jewish, Catholic or "BLACK" (which we've already established that you're at least "one"), the KKK HATES YOU!
Do yourself a favor and look up the history of "progressives" vs. the history of the "KKK." In particular look up the progressive attitudes and policy endorsements of "Republican" president Theodore Roosevelt.
Progressives, Liberals, Democrats, Left wingers, or whatever you want to call them, don't "hate" you Chil. Just as I don't believe that Right-wingers, Conservatives and Republicans don't hate me. However, there are extremist on "BOTH SIDES", right and left.
I believe that it's the "moderate" factions that are the majority in both the Democratic and Republican parties. Unfortunately for the Republicans the "Conservative Christian" right, and the "Neo-Conservatives" have throw the party into disarray. That's the MAIN reason why they lost the 06' and 08' elections. In fact it's these fringe groups who are responsible for sparking the paranoia such as;
"We're hated because of our religion"
"Liberals are evil"
"Liberals hate America"
"Liberals are racist"
"Democrats love abortion and hate the unborn"
Not only are they silly accusations, they're false.
p allen "First off, what ad hominem attack??I certainly didn't post it... If you don't know what an "ad hominem" attack is, you shouldn't accuse someone of using one....ya' think?"
Sounds like someone is a tad upset allen. Do you want to talk about it?lol
p allen "
I was merely commenting on your statement that you're "more scared of these so called progressives than you are of the KKK." As Anon said, if you're Jewish, Catholic or "BLACK" (which we've already established that you're at least "one"), the KKK HATES YOU!"
And LIBERALS HATE BLACKS that don't embrace their way of thinking. So in reality, both camps are very similar. The KKK hates blacks and jews "unconditionally", while liberals only like jews and blacks with certain "conditions". Sounds about right.
p allen "Do yourself a favor and look up the history of "progressives" vs. the history of the "KKK." In particular look up the progressive attitudes and policy endorsements of "Republican" president Theodore Roosevelt.
The "progressives" aka "liberals" back then died off a long time ago. They really have nothing in common with today's liberal.
p allen "Progressives, Liberals, Democrats, Left wingers, or whatever you want to call them, don't "hate" you Chil. Just as I don't believe that Right-wingers, Conservatives and Republicans don't hate me. However, there are extremist on "BOTH SIDES", right and left."
Oh really allen? So when liberals call black females that are republicans or conservatives "Aunt Jemimahs", they are saying it "out of love and compassion"? I guess liberals feel that black conservative republican females should aspire to emulate a fiction character on a bottle of syrup I suppose. Should have Condi Rice considered it a compliment by liberals,when she was reffered to the black maid in Gone with the Wind. I guess that was also a compliment. Got to love how liberals treat blacks that hold "diverse" view points then there's, right allen?
p allen "
I believe that it's the "moderate" factions that are the majority in both the Democratic and Republican parties. Unfortunately for the Republicans the "Conservative Christian" right, and the "Neo-Conservatives" have throw the party into disarray. That's the MAIN reason why they lost the 06' and 08' elections. In fact it's these fringe groups who are responsible for sparking the paranoia such as;"
How did you know how the GOP lost in 06 and 08 allen? Oh wait, I've only explained it about 20 times since 2006. You still got it 1000% wrong. Speaking as a conservative and a registered republican, I know more about the inner working of the GOP and why they lost allen. The split in the GOP happened because of neo conservatives, but "NEOCONS" aren't the "fringe element". They are actually moderate republicans that want to re brand conservative. Neo's believe in expanded government and increased spending. Also, look up the definitions of a "NEO"con and a "PALEO"con allen.
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ontinuing allen's message ""We're hated because of our religion"
"Liberals are evil"
Anything that is associated with morality and common decency, liberals attack it. The attacks against Palin and her family is the ultimate demonstration of pure evil committed by liberals across the country. The facts are the facts. I guess calling Sarah Palin a "*unt", "bimbo", "whore", "bitch", "dummy", or saying she would be "gang rapped by black brothers" is merely a demonstration of how virtuous and ethically good liberals are, right allen?
"Liberals hate America"
Funny how you don't see conservatives burning, stomping, dragging, or destroying the American Flag allen. Ooops, that is what liberals do. Silly me. Michelle Obama said last year that
"America is just a downright mean place".
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/03/10/080310fa_fact_collins?currentPage=1
Also Michelle said at USC that "people are comfortable in their ignorance, "that's America".
It's not even a challenge allen.
p allen "Liberals are racist"
I've been called the N word more times then I can count by liberals. They start out debating me,then they quickly realize that I'm way smarter and more analytical and articulate then them. Then they bring out the race cards against me, once they realize that doesn't work, then they being mentally racist against me. As I said earlier, I doubt liberals call black republicans and conservatives "house niggers" "uncle toms" "simple sambos" "aunt Jemimah" "lawn jockeys" etc because they care about blacks that don't tow their ideology. Why don't liberals call white conservative females "Aunt Jemimahs" allen? Why don't they call white conservatives "simple sambos" allen? For people that you say aren't racist, liberals use racial words as their form of attack. Explain that way too allen.
p allen "Democrats love abortion and hate the unborn"
Tell me that liberals don't fear the Supreme Court overturning Roe vs Wade. I can say Democrat liberals love abortion, because their actions prove it out over and over again. As for the unborn, liberals dont' even consider the unborn human, it's just "goo". Did you have a knock on your head, or have you suffered memory lose?Obama is a major supporter of infanticide. Liberals mock and ridicule those that stand up for the rights of the unborn. You must be trying to rewrite history allen, but your pen just ran out of ink big time. If Sotomayor came out and said she was pro life, see how fast liberals would dump her nomination
Not only are they silly accusations, they're false.
CB;"Sounds like someone is a tad upset allen. Do you want to talk about it?lol".
No, I'm not upset...perturbed perhaps, but definitely not upset. I don't know how you would handle it, but confusion sets in with me when someone accuses me of saying or doing something I clearly didn't say or do!
CB;"And LIBERALS HATE BLACKS that don't embrace their way of thinking.".
And you wonder why I said there are fringe elements in the Republican Party... That statement proves it!
So called "Liberal" elements of any given political party has no reason to "hate" conservatives. Simply because someone disagrees with your politics doesn't mean that they "hate" you.
If disagreeing with someone else's politics signifies "hatred", it's only fair to say that "YOU" hate liberals....right?
It's that type of paranoia that's driving these crazy notions. You've convinced yourself that there's "hate" on the other side to justify your political positions.
Let's take a look at just one of your issues. You want to stop abortion, right? Yet you believe that those who say; "let the woman decide if she want's to carry a child to term", that in their own "heart of hearts" that they're projecting some sort of "hate" towards you.
What you're doing, in effect, is removing the issue at hand, which is "abortion", all together. The issue is a woman, her body and the fetus (if you want to say "baby", that's fine) inside her. The issue is "NOT" who like's you, or hate's you!
Let's say a woman does decide to have an abortion, and you feel as though it effects you personally, religiously, morally, socially or for ever reason. Since the woman was okay with it, and "liberals" are okay with it, but the only one who feel's as they've been wronged is you... that make's "YOU" the only person qualified to project angst, disgust or hate!
Now let's say a woman "doesn't" have an abortion. Detroit is "filled" with Liberal men and women. Many of them are "SINGLE PARENTS." Do you really think these Liberal give any thought to "hating" a conservative because her or she is anti-abortion? NO! They have "KIDS THEMSELVES"! All they want is the LEGAL RIGHT TO MAKE THAT CHOICE!! In that, hating conservatives for being on the other side makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE!!!
In particular, I'm not to worried if someone "hates" me unless they "PROVE" their hatred by acting out with no other intent but to cause unjustifiable financial, severe mental anguish or physical harm. If indeed you've suffered any one of those things within your lifetime and can attribute it to the actions of "Liberals", then I can understand your concerns. If not, YOU'RE JUST PARANOID!
CB;"I've been called the N word more times then I can count by liberals.".
First, if a White person called you the "N" word to your face, you best believe "he ain't no Liberal"!!! Second, if you allowed any White person to call you the "N" word to your face, at the very least he would have to put his "ass" where his mouth is. Otherwise, he might as well have called you "sweetheart" or "sugar dumpling"!
CB;"Why don't liberals call white conservative females "Aunt Jemimah's" allen? Why don't they call white conservatives "simple sambos" allen? For people that you say aren't racist, liberals use racial words as their form of attack. Explain that way too allen..
I know you're not that dense Tyrone... Don't pretend that you don't know the origins of those pejoratives. But if "NONSENSE" will make you feel better...
Rush Limbaugh is a Sambo'!
Ann Coulter is an Aunt Jemimah!
Now answer this... Lets say you and your Black girlfriend are on stage speaking at a function along with Coulter and Limbaugh. Someone from the audience yell's out; "Get Sambo and Aunt Jemimah off the stage"! Would Limbaugh and Coulter even think for the slightest moment that the heckler was referring to them??? Would you even think it???
What's next Tyrone... Al Sharpton is a "Cracker Honky"? Or, why don't they call Sonia Sotomayor a "Kike"?
Better still let's call Rush Limbaugh a "Spic", and Ann Coulter is a "Nigger"!! And do you really believe that both Coulter and Limbaugh would be overtly offended, particularly if the word's came from a Black person?
PAA: Let's say a woman does decide to have an abortion, and you feel as though it effects you personally, religiously, morally, socially or for ever reason. Since the woman was okay with it, and "liberals" are okay with it, but the only one who feel's as they've been wronged is you... that make's "YOU" the only person qualified to project angst, disgust or hate!
Me: To reword for another century: Let's say a Southerner in the 1800s does decide to own a slave, and an abolitionist feel as though it effects him personally, religiously, morally, socially or for ever reason. Since the slaveowner was okay with it, and the Democrats are okay with it, but the only one who feel's as they've been wronged is the abolitionist... that make's the abolitionist the only person qualified to project angst, disgust or hate!
That's exactly how Southerners argued against abolitionists. Southerners owning slaves did not impact abolitionists personally, yet abolitionists feel the need for religious, moral, etc., reasons to fight for the freedom of slaves. It's right there in their declarations of causes of secession (they argued on property, privacy, intrusion grounds).
And there are atheists, Demoocrats, libertarians, etc., that oppose abortion.
Here is an example long before Ann Coulter used a recent similar point (with an argument that pretty much refutes PAA's argument that since abortion is the woman's choice, even if it concerns human life, then it should be no one else's business):
http://www.godlessprolifers.org/library/jones1.html
6. Pro-abortionists say: "If you don't like abortions, then don't have one." My response to them is: "That is a great logical process; you just changed my mind; I think I'll apply that to the rest of my philosophy and change my opinions about everything else too..."
"If you don't like slavery, then don't enslave anyone."
"If you don't like rape, then don't rape anyone."
"If you don't like murder, then don't murder anyone."
"If you don't like theft, then don't steal from anyone."
"If you don't like lies, then don't lie to anyone."
"If you don't like sexually transmitted diseases, then don't transmit one."
"If you don't like terrorism, then don't bomb anyone."
"If you don't like animal cruelty, then don't be cruel to one."
"If you don't like oppression, then don't oppress anyone."
"If you don't like arson, then don't burn the property of anyone."
As you can see this type of thinking is anarchy, at it's worst. Basically it says: "Shut up and let me do what I want; I don't care how it affects anyone else; I just want to do what I want to do." It is very self-centered and childish.
"In that, hating conservatives for being on the other side makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE!!!"
Funny, each time there is the very, very rare occasion of an abortion doctor getting murdered, degenerates like Frank Schaeffer (whose sole existence is to trash his parents for decades, even after they are dead, who he has not gotten over the fact he was raised evangelical Protestant) point fingers at pro-lifers saying they are all guilty of causing what they deem terroristic acts against abortion doctors. Somehow in the minds of NARAL, Planned Parenthood, etc., those who are pro-lifers are responsible for any abortion doctor getting killed if they state they believe abortion is murder.
You are right thought- it makes no sense to hate conservatives for being on the other side. But that is precisely Tyrone's point to you- diehard abortionists are so in love with their right to choose to have babies maimed, tortured, executed, and killed when they are unborn, that they have no problem hating those who point out what they are doing.
That's why we hear their trite over and over again that pro-lifers care only about the unborn, but once folks are born, they don't care about them. Operation Blessing, Harvest, Compassion, Habitat for Humanity, World Vision, etc., etc., are just a few of many, many Christian ministries, run by pro-lifers, have many pro-lifer folks out to inner cities, countries worldwide, etc., to feed the country, build houses for the homeless, clothe those who are without clothing, look after abused women and children, etc., etc. No other group can compare to the generosity and compassion of conservative Chrisian pro-lifers.
PAA,
Do tell which of these abortion methods do you favor choice for the most:
http://www.lifesitenews.com/abortiontypes/
Tran;"To reword for another century: Let's say a Southerner in the 1800s does decide to own a slave, and an abolitionist feel as though it effects...etc..".
EXACTLY RIGHT!!! That's exactly what I'm saying. The animosity, or hate, will more than likely come from the person that projects his disgust. As they say in the hood, "don't hate the playa', hate the game"!!!
Tran, quoting Randall M. Jones;"Pro-abortionists say: "If you don't like abortions, then don't have one." My response to them is: "That is a great logical process; you just changed my mind; I think I'll apply that to the rest of my philosophy and change my opinions about everything else too...etc..".
If Mr. Jones wants to live his life in such a manner, perhaps he should take get in line at the Supreme Court of the United States. That's where women were given the right to "CHOOSE."
If Mr. Jones wants to, "apply that to the rest of his philosophy and change his opinions about everything else too", he can surely petition the court for his right to "CHOOSE" to rape, murder, steal, enslave, bomb, oppress or any other act that suit's his fancy!
So again, basically, Mr. Jones is correct in his assertions. If he feels as though he "needs" to rape, murder, etc... to fulfill his personal rights (or as the Supreme Court ruled) he should take it to court. Of course he'd look like a damn fool, but that's his right also!
Tran;"diehard abortionists are so in love with their right to choose to have babies maimed, tortured, etc..">
Another stupid conservative rhetoric talking point. To claim that people on the left "love" abortion is disingenuous rhetoric spouted with the intent to demean those who are pro-choice. Do conservatives "love" killing abortion doctors? Better still, do "love" shooting and killing abortion doctors?
Answer this question...
If you were to "hate" someone, which do you believe, mostly, could have caused that hate; what the person believes or is thinking, or the persons actions or what that person has "DONE"??
The terrorist's who kill abortion doctors obviously "hate" what the doctors "do". I don't know of any doctors who refuse to perform abortions having their lives threatened... do you? If a doctor doesn't wish to perform abortions for religious reasons or whatever, pro-choice groups don't shoot him and his assistants, picket and block the entrance to his office, glue his office doors shut, cut his phone lines, ect..."
All that "hate" directly comes from conservative pro-life groups, yet you claim someone hates you??? PROVE WHERE "HATE" OR VIOLENCE HAS COME FROM THOSE WHO SUPPORT PRO-CHOICE DOCTORS DIRECTED AT PRO-LIFE DOCTORS....PROVE IT!
And contrary to the conservative's howling scare tactics, no doctor can be forced to perform an abortion. ABORTION IS AN ELECTIVE PROCEDURE! And why would a woman who want's and abortion go to a doctor that doesn't believe in it, or otherwise doesn't want to do it???? Maybe doctors should be force to do breast implants... make's sense to me (lol)
P. Allen, sorry I know some whites who are called the "N" word and dont care as the "N" word is untrue and incorrect for Blacks. The word Negro is Spanish word for Black and as most African slaves were of the real dark kind and were called Black. Because most europeans were uneducated they could not pronounce the Spanish word naygur and we have the word nigger. Now rap singers and some of the rest of us say nigga. You can deny all of this but it is true.
Obama has told Blacks exactly what he plans to do with health care. Old people will die and young ones who engage in crime will be killed.
Frank Ricci is a great man and a great fireman. He used to live in MD and volunteer around here. I work on the job and it took me FOREVER to get hired on because they had to meet their "minority/female" quota before hiring white males. Same goes for the New Haven BS. Yes, he suffers from dyslexia. He had someone read him the books many times over because he wanted to PASS his promotional exam. Unlike the fireman who just flat out didn't study/comprehend and think it's the test's fault because it's "racist." It's a piece of paper people. Promotional exams help decide who is ready and experienced enough to be given more responsibility over CITIZENS/FIREMENS LIVES. So if you can't pass it. I don't want you commanding my brothers on a working job.
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