Tell me what's wrong with this picture without using a progressive racial lens.
I commented back when RG3 was racially attacked by the now fformer sports analyst for ESPN Rob Parker that the people who make up the sports media be it analysts, commentators, reporters etc are really no different then their non sports counterparts. They are mostly liberal in their ideology and they try to see racial angles in stories they report on. This story I came across today just stood out like a sore thumb in proving exactly what I have been saying is true. Yesterday, the Chicago Bulls beat the Miami Heat breaking Miami's 27 game winning streak. Most of the sports media and sports bloggers commented on the game as they should, but one sports blogger decided to make a racial issue about fans celebrating the Bull's win. Bill Hanstock over at SB Nation which is a sports blog wrote a very odd story for a sports story. You can tell how odd it is simply by reading the headline "
White people celebrate Heat loss in exceedingly white fashion
I got a headache trying to understand what Bill Hanstock was trying to say or his motives behind it. Are white basketball fans suppose to celebrate in a particular manner in which to not be drawn out by him? Since I am black, maybe it's a white thing. I don't know. Since I am not a basketball fan, maybe someone can help me on this. I do know that most of the fans who attend NBA basketball games are white. There is no problem with that. Tickets are sold to those who can afford to buy them, capitalism in motion. Is it safe to say that Mr. Hanstock has some sort of racial issue with white basketball fans? If the headline was reversed and made to say "Black people celebrate Heat loss in exceedingly black fashion" how would that play out? Not very well of course. Bill thinks he wrote a funny and witty story that he thought has drawn attention to the white basketball fans he displayed but in reality, the story says more about him then it does the fans. This is a picture of Bill. Bill looks kind of white himself. Maybe someone can give me conformation.
The ironic and fascinating thing about the story is that If I would have just saw the pictures of the fans celebrating, I would have never thought for a moment that there was a white basketball fans celebrating at a game penalty infraction going on. I would have just thought they were basketball fans enjoying themselves, I'm so naive.And to think, progressives calm they want a color blind society, yet they keep making the issue of race an eye sore.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 1:37 AM
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Spain's World Cup Champions, Soccer, the most popular game in the world. Only when the Brazilians win once in a while, are blacks in the team.
You just got a few sports like basketball which the USA has lost in recent years and American football where blacks do well.
That's for a post long ago that wasn't answered.
Granted the "white guy celebration" observation is stupid. I believe this guy, Bill Hanstock, wrote his piece with forethought and intent. What his intent was, one can only guess. It could have been a "man in the mirror" moment. Maybe it's a publicity stunt. With the recent American "racial epiphany" of electing the first black president, perhaps he thought he'd get some publicity by creating a controversy. After all, he's get his name, his article and his picture on "your blog." I'd never heard of him until I saw him here!
Speaking of "your blog", doesn't the title "Wake up Black America" boast a racial angle? Since you often ask the question, perhaps you should answer, what if some one started a blog called "Wake up White America?" Would it be alright by you? Of course you wouldn't what the appearance of a "double standard", now would you?
Ooohhh, wait... I Google "Wake up White America" and came up with some real doozies! All of the entries for that title are exclusively "white supremacist, racist, and separatist." It appears that you title equates to these guys call for a wake-up call.
So there you have it. Now you don't have to use the hypothetical reference of, "what if a white person/people" does or say a certain thing. The KKK uses the same language/term/verbiage/title message you've using! So the question is now being posed to you with no "what if" needed!
p allen "Granted the "white guy celebration" observation is stupid. "
Wow, we agree. Well it did call for ten inches of snow today(sarcasm)
p allen "I believe this guy, Bill Hanstock, wrote his piece with forethought and intent. What his intent was, one can only guess."
Two for two, you are starting to worry me allen.
p allen "It could have been a "man in the mirror" moment. Maybe it's a publicity stunt. With the recent American "racial epiphany" of electing the first black president, perhaps he thought he'd get some publicity by creating a controversy. After all, he's get his name, his article and his picture on "your blog." I'd never heard of him until I saw him here!"
I was going to say you made three for three, but I will give you a half on that one allen. I don't think Hanstock's stupid observation had anything to do with Obama but the publicity and controversy angle could be just that. The other option as I mentioned in my story is that he is a typical racially obsessed liberal.Negative attention by people over what bloggers say rarely lasts long. I've said things over the years that were picked up on the Daily Kos, Huffington Post, Democrat Underground etc and I received a flood of hate mail from people on those blogs and forums. After a few days, it tends to go back to normal. If Hancook was a well known sports writer or analyst, then it would be different and the negative outrage would last longer in the public's eye. I've read the Bleacher's Report from time to time when it covers football, so I personally know of the site. Readers always say how they are glad that I bring them stories that the rest of the media ignores. So now you know of this story allen thanks to me. You're welcome.
p allen "Speaking of "your blog", doesn't the title "Wake up Black America" boast a racial angle? "
Very observant allen. You're right, when I first started this blog many years ago, it did have a racial angle to it with the objective of trying to get blacks to become free thinkers. Most of the content back in the old says was centered around exposing black progressives. However this blog has matured into a conservative blog in general without not just about black issues. So again, you are half right.
p allen "Since you often ask the question, perhaps you should answer, what if some one started a blog called "Wake up White America?" Would it be alright by you? Of course you wouldn't what the appearance of a "double standard", now would you? "
I'm sure there might be a blog in the blogger universe by that name. But there is the core difference in the name of my blog and it's intent at the time. If someone mirrors my wording with the name "Wake Up White America", chances are it may be racist in nature. Daniel Carver who is a Grand Wizard for the KKK use to say in his radio taping "WAKE UP WHITE PEOPLE". My blog has never been about supporting black racism or black racial supremacy or anything of the kind. It's always been about reaching out to blacks to help them not be political chumps but to be free analytical thinkers in regards to politics allen. You know this. I've actually thought about starting a new blog and getting rid of this one simply, because I've moved on from what I originally founded it to try and accomplish.
p allen "So there you have it. Now you don't have to use the hypothetical reference of, "what if a white person/people" does or say a certain thing. The KKK uses the same language/term/verbiage/title message you've using! So the question is now being posed to you with no "what if" needed!"
And this has to do with Bill Hanstock's comments how allen? Once again, you are drifting into on coming traffic.
CB;"And this has to do with Bill Hanstock's comments how allen?".
Because you said this in your essay; "If the headline was reversed and made to say "Black people celebrate Heat loss in exceedingly black fashion" how would that play out?.
I've heard you and other conservatives pose the same about the, "NAACP, Congressional Black Caucus, United Negro College Fund, Black Student Union, etc..."
CB;"My blog has never been about supporting black racism or black racial supremacy or anything of the kind. It's always been about reaching out to blacks to help them not be political chumps but to be free analytical thinkers in regards to politics allen".
I truly believe that your intent was to "reach out" to blacks. Ironically, that's the same intent of the NAACP, Congressional Black Caucus, United Negro College Fund and Black Student Unions! Yet you and other conservatives have maligned these groups, particularly with the hypothetical "what if there were a Congressional White Caucus, or a White Student Union, such as you've so recently posited in this current essay.
All I'm saying is that the title of your blog can be maligned in the same way as you view any one group or organization that "reaches out" to blacks. My question is, what makes your outreach any different? Sure, you can be of the opinion that "liberals" are being chumps. But that alone doesn't explain your reasoning to reach out to blacks, mainly because the liberal groups are reaching out to blacks, the same AS YOU!
You have to admit Tyrone, your blog title does send a message counter to the conservative mantra of "race being irrelevant." Perhaps you should adopt a "race neutral" title. How about "Wake up Liberal America." (lol, just a suggestion...)
At every sporting event fans of all different background will wow things up just so their team can win. Look at the Seahawks 12th Man. They make as much noise so the opposing team will be penalized for false starts; which Seattle fans leads the record for such causes.
At first Tyrone, before I started reading this latest post, and the topic was on basketball, I thought the topic was about when CBS analyst Doug Gottlieb who got into hot water when he joked about that he was in the studio to bring the "white man's perspective" to the network's pregame show between Marquette and Miami.
Because of his joke, Gottlieb apologized for it. However, since his apology was not enough, there were many tweets that Gottlieb should be fired. Charles Barkely (who is no stranger to controversy) defended Gottlieb and told the twitters to "get a life".
-Big Pop
Big Pop "At every sporting event fans of all different background will wow things up just so their team can win. Look at the Seahawks 12th Man. They make as much noise so the opposing team will be penalized for false starts; which Seattle fans leads the record for such causes"
You are right Big Pop, at games it's the 12th man, and the home team feeds off the energy of their fans. That's the great thing about home field advantage. The team wants their fans into the game. This is why the narrative of the story by Hanstock was so absurd.
Big Pop "At first Tyrone, before I started reading this latest post, and the topic was on basketball, I thought the topic was about when CBS analyst Doug Gottlieb who got into hot water when he joked about that he was in the studio to bring the "white man's perspective" to the network's pregame show between Marquette and Miami. "
It is a double standard of sorts. The only reason for the "outrage" is because Doug Gottlieb is a white man who said it. That's it. With the panel was all white, and Doug was black and joked in saying he was going to give the black perspective, nobody would have responded negatively either on air or off. It just would have been an average on air segment that was soon forgotten Big Pop. Since the majority of basketball players are black, it was only natural in a politically correct media that Doug was going to be scorned for mentioning the word white even though there was no harm in what he said. Fake outrage based on hypocrisy as usual.
Big Pop "Because of his joke, Gottlieb apologized for it. However, since his apology was not enough, there were many tweets that Gottlieb should be fired. Charles Barkely (who is no stranger to controversy) defended Gottlieb and told the twitters to "get a life". "
lol, fired for what? Just because he made a joke about his own race? This is absolutely insane!! Freaking insane!! Gottleb didn't say anything negative!! I swear this country has lost it's freaking mind.
p allen "All I'm saying is that the title of your blog can be maligned in the same way as you view any one group or organization that "reaches out" to blacks.
Whatever you say allen. Keep believing that while I pat you on the head and give you a cookie.
p allen "My question is, what makes your outreach any different? Sure, you can be of the opinion that "liberals" are being chumps. But that alone doesn't explain your reasoning to reach out to blacks, mainly because the liberal groups are reaching out to blacks, the same AS YOU! "
I thought sure I said blacks who align their votes as a collective with the Democratic Party and have nothing to show for it are chumps. Furthermore, me using the word chumps wasn't original, that is what Malcolm X said about blacks fifty years ago.
p allen "
I truly believe that your intent was to "reach out" to blacks. Ironically, that's the same intent of the NAACP, Congressional Black Caucus, United Negro College Fund and Black Student Unions! Yet you and other conservatives have maligned these groups, particularly with the hypothetical "what if there were a Congressional White Caucus, or a White Student Union, such as you've so recently posited in this current essay. "
In 2013, why is there a need for the United Negro College Fund, Black Student Unions, Congressional Black Caucus, Black Entertainment Television etc, black colleges etc. The hypocrisy is when progressives say that want a color blind America yet they do things to create a segregated society. They are talking out of both sides of their mouths. My thinking has always been that there should be NO entities based off of race whether it's black, white, Hispanic or Asian.
p allen "You have to admit Tyrone, your blog title does send a message counter to the conservative mantra of "race being irrelevant." Perhaps you should adopt a "race neutral" title. How about "Wake up Liberal America." (lol, just a suggestion...)"
Actually I don't have to admit what is not true. The title "Wake Up Black America" that I used at the time was because blacks give 90% of their vote to a political party like clock work. Their loyalty to the Democratic Party is not natural and it make no sense what so ever, so to say for black people to "wake up" only seemed natural to use. It's simple as it is stated allen.
CB;"In 2013, why is there a need for the United Negro College Fund, Black Student Unions, Congressional Black Caucus, Black Entertainment Television etc, black colleges etc".
Because, "those who forget the past, are doomed to repeat it."
The groups you've named merely identify themselves as "black." (the same as you identify your blog) Let's be honest here. The only reason you question their existence is because of their political affiliation. The only reason you didn't mention The Black Conservative Coalition is because of the politics! The only reason you don't mention Operation Black Storm is because of politics! The only reason you didn't mention The National Black Republican Association is because of the politics!
And the idea (aka, conservative talking-point) that 90% of blacks vote Democrat, is inappropriate and bears no importance. Ninety percent of people, of any group, race, religion or creed, often have similar interests, practices, etc... Eighty percent of Americans live in metropolitan areas. Should they be attacked for their choice? The U.S. Constitution grants religious freedom. Yet Ninety percent of Americans say the believe in God. Is there something inherently wrong with them? Hell, 90% of Americans agree with background checks to by a gun!
In a "free" society, what makes your ideology any different or better than anyone else? The difference is whats in your own mind. Do you really believe if blacks "voted" differently blacks would fair any different? Here in Detroit the average voter turnout for "local elections" is about 28%. Voting or not didn't change a thing here...
Tyrone, you're the "pot calling the kettle black." Politics can blind you in two distinct ways. By convincing you believe a lie, or convincing you not to believe the truth.
Hey Tyrone, and others who might be interested, media critic Eric Deggans talks about his new book, "Race Baiter" on CSPAN. Click the link and check out his speech. Although he is admittedly a Democrat, he has some quite poignant comments about Jon Stewart, MSNBC and Al Sharpton. I highly recommended you watch his talk Tyrone.
"To generalize is to be an idiot" - William Blake
Take that, P. Allen.
nightspore; "To generalize is to be an idiot" - William Blake.
So, you're generalizing?
All you do in generalize allen. Specifics isn't your game.
Just slightly off topic, but you notice that most of the crowd is white watching a game that is played by mostly black athletes. Does that say something to you about ticket prices? The black athletes themselves are the only ones who can afford to buy tickets to the games.
anon "Just slightly off topic, but you notice that most of the crowd is white watching a game that is played by mostly black athletes. Does that say something to you about ticket prices? The black athletes themselves are the only ones who can afford to buy tickets to the games. "
Black fans attend basketball games just like any other sport. It's only natural that more whites would make up the audiences of major sporting events, because they make up the majority of the population. Ticket prices to a point I suppose do play a role, but it comes down to business. Ticket prices are set at a certain price in order to pay for the salaries of the players. Good players cost money. It's the nature of the beast of professional sports.
alberto gorin
yeah as are not black person love football basketball or baseball
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