Stomp on Jesus to show how powerful of a symbol he is?
Lets say that you was a student in college, and your professor asked you to take out a piece of paper. Nothing wrong with that. Now let's say that your professor asked you to write the word "Jesus" on it. At this point some of you may do it being that it's no big deal, and others may not do it. Well let's say that everybody student wrote the word Jesus on their individual pieces of paper. So now every student has a piece of paper with the word Jesus on it. Now let's say that your professor then tells you to place the paper on the floor and then STOMP ON IT. Ah yeah, you read correctly, stomp on it. What would be your initial reaction to the request of your professor? Some thoughts would be, what exactly is the purpose in doing it? Other thoughts would be that the professor might hold some sort of anti Christian chip on his or her shoulder. Anyways, the reaction would be along the lines that the request by the professor wasn't normal. Well this scenario actually happened. I've been writing for awhile about the anti Christian bigotry of the ever intolerant left. I can add yet another example to the very long list. Ryan Rotela, who is a devout Mormon is a student at Florida Atlantic University. The class he was in was Intercultural Communication. His professor who ordered all the students to write Jesus on a piece of paper and stomp on it was Professor Deandre Poole. Ryan due to his faith felt uncomfortable following through with his instructor's orders respectfully declined saying
"With all due respect to your authority as a professor, I do not believe what you told us to do was appropriate. I believe it was unprofessional and I was deeply offended by what you told me to do."
Well for his troubles Ryan was suspended from the class after voicing his concerns with administrators.
One would think that this was a David vs Goliath story in which the student couldn't possibly win with the administrators backing the nutty professor right? Ah, not exactly. Todd Starnes of Fox News got a hold of the story most likely after the local CBS affiliate Channel 12 aired it. It started off as a Fox News Radio segment by him, then conservative bloggers got a hold of it. Then talk radio hosts across the country got on board with it. With all the pressure from millions of people being brought down on Florida Atlantic University, the University's Dean placed the nutty professor on leave" and an apology has been issued.
Mr Poole claims that he served as a Sunday School Teacher, and that his motivee wasn't anti Christian. It doesn't matter if he was a Sunday School Teacher or not, it still was seen as an offensive exercise. Progressive atheists bloggers are trying to come to Mr. Poole's defense in saying that he was vilified over an incident that was blown out of proportion, yeah. Mr. Poole claims that he is a deeply Christian person, and that the whole stepping/stomping exercise he wanted his class to take part in was "to show the power of symbols" and not to disrespect Christianity. So with all the symbols throughout the world, he had to pick Jesus Christ? This is what I don't get. How exactly did he think he was showing the "power" of a symbol when he asked his class to "step or stomp on one? Sine Mr Poole is a Democratic activist which makes him a member of the boo god party, it only makes sense actually.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 12:48 PM
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Suppose if the professor were to instruct his students to write out Mohammed and stomp on it and one student refused. Who would get in trouble-the student or the the teacher? It's going to be the teacher, of course because attacking Islam is not politically correct! Like the Left had no problems when Islamist exrtremists attack the Judeo-Christian values.
-Big Pop
Remember in the "good old days" when stomping on and burning the American flag on American soil was the norm? I'm being sarcastic of course and I don't condone such a thing like I don't condone any desecration of any religious symbol of any sort.
-Big Pop
Suspended FAU communications instructor, Deandre Poole, is now receiving death threats and racially charged messages by email and on his voice mail, which is the typical right-wing response... Oh well, at least their just doing their usual "jaw-jackin'', and not going "Fatwa" on him...
As an Atheist I have to say :
1) I admire real believers.
2) I understand the Protestant Revolution and it's contribution to Scientific knowledge - i.e. the biggest step change to our understanding of the universe, typified by Sir Isaac Newton.
3) I'm long since bored with the "Oh so trendy lets insult Christianity without understanding its the root of our nations and legal system" brigade.
4) Frankly, I wish I believed in God just to annoy the tedious morons.
5) I'll be going to Church this Christmas to shore up our civilisation and be counted.
Concerning what Jesus looked like: We have no snapshots of Jesus and good thing we don't (idolatry danger). As a Christian I have never kept any so-called picture of Jesus, and in old bibles if it had one I would remove it. Not only the graven image / likeness / idolatry danger, but consider this: Abraham, father of Isaac, was called out of Chaldea, Genesis 11:31 (Babylon- now Iraq/Iran); Concerning Isaac's son Jacob, his twelve tribe sons, and their sons, were drawn also from Syrian, Egyptian and other mid-eastern bloods as well – thus forming the Hebrew/ Israelite/Jewish nation (Genesis 25:20; 29:16-30:24; 35:15-18; 41:46-52). Jesus descended from Jacob's son Judah (Matthew 1:2,16). From Matthew 20:15 where Mary Magdela supposed Jesus to be the gardner, Jesus looked like a typical first century Jew (and without any distinctive clothing – no wrap around collar stuff,etc.). That means Jesus had black hair (Leviticus 13:31,37; Solomon 5:11) and looked, not like various portraits, but more like an Iranian/Syrian/or other middle easterner. Any likeness among foolish multitudes would only limit Him. Jesus is a man for all people for all seasons, and His beauty from the inward (Isaiah 53:2).
Concerning symbols and behavior: Let somebody damage a Quran/Koran, or indict the life and work of Mohammed and some jihadists / Muslims kick up a sandstorm, and twirl around like they are having a seizure, and threaten folks with a death sentence. Yet, Hollywood can portray Jesus as a sissy, artwork can be sponsored that says “Piss Christ” and now an academic abuses students by stomping on the written name of Jesus – but disciples of Jesus calmly adrress the matter and no foaming at the mouth retalliation. Jesus haters overcompensate for their deep insecurity – they show who they are. Followers of Christ can takes revilings and persecutions, and like a rose crushed by a heel, just give off a sweet aroma (Matthew 5:1-12).
p allen "Suspended FAU communications instructor, Deandre Poole, is now receiving death threats and racially charged messages by email and on his voice mail, which is the typical right-wing response... Oh well, at least their just doing their usual "jaw-jackin'', and not going "Fatwa" on him.."
What are the death threats allen? I didn't see what the death threats said allen, nor did I see what the supposed racially charged messages said, but you assumed it had to have been and claim it was "typical" right wingers". At least if I say it's liberals saying something racial towards black conservatives, I can at lest post what was said.
-Big Pop "Remember in the "good old days" when stomping on and burning the American flag on American soil was the norm? I'm being sarcastic of course and I don't condone such a thing like I don't condone any desecration of any religious symbol of any sort."
Liberal have not met an American Flag they haven't wanted to spit on, burn or stomp on Big Pop. If someone did disrespect a symbol of something progressives hold dear, then they would be talk about intolerance.
anon "As an Atheist I have to say :
1) I admire real believers.
2) I understand the Protestant Revolution and it's contribution to Scientific knowledge - i.e. the biggest step change to our understanding of the universe, typified by Sir Isaac Newton.
3) I'm long since bored with the "Oh so trendy lets insult Christianity without understanding its the root of our nations and legal system" brigade.
4) Frankly, I wish I believed in God just to annoy the tedious morons.
5) I'll be going to Church this Christmas to shore up our civilisation and be counted.
All atheists aren't created the same. I have two friends who are atheists. What I like about them is that they are comfortable in their skin and don't feel the need to be feel like oversensitive crybabies whenever someone mentions the words Jesus Christ.
CB;"What are the death threats allen? I didn't see what the death threats said allen, nor did I see what the supposed racially charged messages said, but you assumed it had to have been and claim it was "typical" right wingers".
I don't "make the news", I'm simply reporting it! And as far as what "you haven't seen (or heard)", there's always more to a "news" story than what you might see, or hear. Since you or I don't have the entire scoop on this (and others) story, the best that can be done is to offer "an opinion."
"In my opinion"... I believe the school is doing simply doing damage control by suspending Poole. There are several factors that lead me to think this. First off, the exercise he used (stomping on the word Jesus) was borrowed from a Wisconsin Professor who had used it for years, apparently without any issues. Secondly, the student, Ryan Rotela, stated that he was "highly insulted" and took his complaints to the administration. Also apparent is that Rotela was the only student to complain to the administration. So, what should the administration do? Be it right or wrong, (again, in my opinion) the obvious first step would be to remove the student from the class, at least until the situation is sorted out.
Third, after the story was picked up by "the media" FAU admin became jittery about addition negative press. The school has had two other recent negative press stories, one with a professor question the Sandy Hook shooting, and another about naming their stadium after a private prison company.
In my opinion...
Professor Poole was teaching a course in Communications. His claim is that this exercise - "was part of a lesson on the impact of words included in the instructor's guide of the class textbook". In this context the argument can be made that it's a simply exercise showing the power of words, and not an attempt to demean or desecrate a religion.
Example: Did you know that in some states K thru 12 students have a "legal" right not to dissect frogs (dead or alive) in biology or science class? Did you also know there are efforts to make it illegal to "insist" that college students dissect animals for a grade? The efforts are being led by this group.
And you best believe that the PETA folks are just as passionate about "God's living creatures" as those who are passionate about their God. Moreover, both exercises are deemed as having value to the learning experience, and the understanding of how they work in biology and/or communications respectively.
And a brief observation about my previous post...
There is an irony to those who object to Poole's exercise and the "legal right not to dissect an animal" in some states. I've often heard conservatives complain about PETA and their tactics, but mostly about the organizations overall beliefs.
I wonder, however, if those who are willing to stop the "stomp the word Jesus" exercise, would be willing to stop dissection of animals in college courses? We're all aware of the debate, "evolution v. creation." The debate comes down to who should have their way in a classroom, the over zealous professor, or the over zealous student?
The big mess occurs when the politicians and political ideology becomes involved. Presently one side (conservatives) complain because they believe "their" point of view is not being taught. The other side (liberals) claim a non-bias open and all encompassed educational dialog.
I've always lived by the motto that a good educator doesn't teach you "what" to think, a good educator teaches you "how" to think.
Since you mentioned the "typical right wingers" allen it it came to Pooles' claims of death threats and racial slurs, let me ask you did.
Is this an example of how "typical left wingers act" who are taking joy in the suicide of Pastor Rick Warren's son?"
Aren't the right wingers suppose to act in this hateful manner like this allen and not the tolerant, compassionate left?
As usual I back up what I say.
I really don't like playing "tit-for-tat", but this seems like a perfect time to start...
We all know the FOX Nation is a right-wing hand out site. Is this an example of right-wing racist attacks on Donna Brazil for her comments about Margret Thatcher?.
As usual I back up what I say!
p allen " really don't like playing "tit-for-tat", but this seems like a perfect time to start..."
Ah yeah, you are the one who threw out the "typical right winger" comment in the first place which lead me to a RESPONSE. Wake up Allen or at least try to.
p allen "We all know the FOX Nation is a right-wing hand out site. Is this an example of right-wing racist attacks on Donna Brazil for her comments about Margret Thatcher?."
Maybe they are allen. Does that mean that a fringe right winger exposing racial stupidity trumps that of fringe racist left wingers? In my world, a racist is a racist period. Donna Brazile is an idiot, but she has ever right to express her political opinion about Margaret Thatcher. Notice how I attacked racists people on both sides of the political divide and defended Donna's right to her opinions as race has nothing to do with this. I've noticed however you couldn't condemn progressives for their vile attacks on Thatcher however, now that's "typical".
As usual I back up what I say!
CB'" I've noticed however you couldn't condemn progressives for their vile attacks on Thatcher however, now that's "typical".
Stupid and silly uncalled for attacks against "ANYONE" are just that...stupid and silly! You know darn well I have let it be known when any so-called progressive makes a stupid comment.
However, we were talking about Donna Brazil's tweeted comment about Margaret Thatcher;
"Okay, what did the #ironlady do to advance Great Britain and the world? Did she leave lasting footprints for women in politics? #justsayin".
You can call the comment "misguided or uninformed", or just disagree with it. But some of the comments made on Fox Nation are purely racist and just as stupid as any progressive who would say the same. As I said, STUPID is STUPID no matter who does it.
P.S. I've got some choice comments about Thatcher. I'll post them on your essay about her passing.
lets take a paper draw a muslim
Mohamed
allah
and stomp on it
tomorrow you serve life time in jail
how would this professor feel
if muslim stomp on the American flag by muslims
alberto gorin
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