Progressive intolerance in the name of tolerance?
Liberalism and tolerance goes together like vampires and garlic. Progressives have been known to act in the hate filled manner they claim the right represents for decades. I discovered just how intolerant the left can be when Clarance Thomas was being confirmed by the U.S Senate for a seat on the Supreme Court. I didn't even know who the man was, but one thing that stood out during the process was how the left racially attacked him for no good reason. They called him an Uncle Tom, said that he wasn't black, he was an Oreo etc. The words he was called didn't make sense to me back then. I asked those who attacked this man, why did they refer to him as a "trader to his race". Of course, they couldn't answer that question. As I became more politically active, my thoughts about the left became more clear that these people who champion themselves as the advocates for tolerance, compassion and diversity are anything but what they claim. This is how liberals portrayed Joseph Lieberman when he ran for re election against fellow liberal Ned Lemont in 2006. Joe was under attack due to his support of the Iraq War and support of George Bush on the issue. So a supporter of Lamont doctored a photo of Lieberman (in black face) standing next to Bill Clinton.
Of course liberals just dismissed this, because they just hid behind the lame excuse that they couldn't be racist or bigoted due to them being liberals. When black conservative Ken Blackwell ran for Governor of Ohio, the left didn't take too kindly to that.
When Michael Steele ran for Governor here in Maryland, the left portrayed him as a "sambo", "minstrel". When he became the first black chairman of the Republican National Committee, the left wasn't interested in his historic achievement as a black man.
As you can see, there is a clear pattern to the left's intolerance to those who are not white and are conservative or even moderate like in the case of Joe Lieberman. Frankly, I didn't even come close to remotely scratching the surface. I will however present one more person that the left has an issue with. She's a black woman who in the left's eye doesn't know here role so to speak. Glo Smith is running for congress in the Florida 5th congressional district. One would think that elections should be won or lost on the issues. A person's skin color shouldn't be an issue, well if that candidate isn't white and is conservative of course the left is going to make it an issue every time. This is a picture of Glo Smith speaking at one of her political events
This is how the left portrayed Ms. Glo as a black female for daring to have diverse points of views that aren't shared by liberals.
Now of course all liberals aren't racially hard wired like this, but the ones who aren't are fraudulent, when it comes to pointing their fingers at the right and shouting racism. Those on the left who truly embrace diversity including ideological diversity needs to ask themselves why other liberals feel that minorities are suppose to embrace their views exclusively or else. As a conservative who is black, I welcome other blacks who chose to be conservatives, liberals, moderates, democrats, republicans, libertarians, green party or constitutional party members or simply chose to be unaffiliated. Why do some liberals act out in a racial manner? Do they realize that every time they racially attack blacks for doing nothing more then opposing them on policies, they are making themselves out to be the real racists they claim the right is? I remember some on the left calling Condi Rice an "Aunt Jemimah". I've asked liberals who called her this how does a a woman who was a child prodigy, who holds a Doctorate Degree, speaks 3 languages fluently, plays classical piano, was the former Secretary of State and National Security Adviser and is a college professor be compared to a fictional maid like black woman on a bottle of syrup. As you may have guessed, I have yet to get an answer.
Of course liberals just dismissed this, because they just hid behind the lame excuse that they couldn't be racist or bigoted due to them being liberals. When black conservative Ken Blackwell ran for Governor of Ohio, the left didn't take too kindly to that.
When Michael Steele ran for Governor here in Maryland, the left portrayed him as a "sambo", "minstrel". When he became the first black chairman of the Republican National Committee, the left wasn't interested in his historic achievement as a black man.
As you can see, there is a clear pattern to the left's intolerance to those who are not white and are conservative or even moderate like in the case of Joe Lieberman. Frankly, I didn't even come close to remotely scratching the surface. I will however present one more person that the left has an issue with. She's a black woman who in the left's eye doesn't know here role so to speak. Glo Smith is running for congress in the Florida 5th congressional district. One would think that elections should be won or lost on the issues. A person's skin color shouldn't be an issue, well if that candidate isn't white and is conservative of course the left is going to make it an issue every time. This is a picture of Glo Smith speaking at one of her political events
Now of course all liberals aren't racially hard wired like this, but the ones who aren't are fraudulent, when it comes to pointing their fingers at the right and shouting racism. Those on the left who truly embrace diversity including ideological diversity needs to ask themselves why other liberals feel that minorities are suppose to embrace their views exclusively or else. As a conservative who is black, I welcome other blacks who chose to be conservatives, liberals, moderates, democrats, republicans, libertarians, green party or constitutional party members or simply chose to be unaffiliated. Why do some liberals act out in a racial manner? Do they realize that every time they racially attack blacks for doing nothing more then opposing them on policies, they are making themselves out to be the real racists they claim the right is? I remember some on the left calling Condi Rice an "Aunt Jemimah". I've asked liberals who called her this how does a a woman who was a child prodigy, who holds a Doctorate Degree, speaks 3 languages fluently, plays classical piano, was the former Secretary of State and National Security Adviser and is a college professor be compared to a fictional maid like black woman on a bottle of syrup. As you may have guessed, I have yet to get an answer.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 2:01 AM
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Yeah, we'll get National news stories about ANYONE making fun of Obama and call it "racist" (like this), but when it happens to a conservative, no one in the national media bats an eyelash.
did they catch the person that spray painted her picture? it could of been a white republican. but you dont care. as long as you can blame the democrats. I think it was a white republican that did it.
Gerald T.-
Gerald, you are such a naive fool. Take the liberals are racial saints rose tainted glasses off and see things for how they really are. Liberals do NOT support nor tolerate blacks who do not think like them. I can present more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more evidence to prove how liberals act towards black and other minorities who are conservatives, and you will still deny it. So it's a waste of my time to even engage you with this.
anon "Yeah, we'll get National news stories about ANYONE making fun of Obama and call it "racist" (like this), but when it happens to a conservative, no one in the national media bats an eyelash"
Liberals are hypocrites. They have always been that way. I remember the racist stories done by the media especially from MSNBC in regards to Herman Cain presidential nominee run. If the same words were used by the right towards Obama, the left would have gone into defcon 1 meltdown mode. Again, they are such fakes.
CB;"Gerald, you are such a naive fool. Take the liberals are racial saints rose tainted glasses off and see things for how they really are. Liberals do NOT support nor tolerate blacks who do not think like them".
Wait a minute Tyrone, Gerald has a point. Have the perpetrators been caught? Is there any evidence to suggest that it was a "liberal, a black person, or a Democrat" that defaced the poster? Is there a smoking gun? Not having any proof whatsoever, and him accusing a white conservative, he's doing the same thing as you!
Regardless of who's responsible, the defacing of the sign is shameful, and frankly rather childish. Whoever did it is a nit-wit.
Floods From Several Sourcres. So Big Brother Lefty did not say “illegal aliens” but rather “undocumented workers” and now, “unnaccompanied children” (thanks CBSNBCABC). Yeah stupid democrats love to ab/use “the children” don't they? We have seen pictures of the masses flowing across USA's southern border (many covering up their face) and they are not all children. Some are teenagers (gangs, criminals?), and adults. Using emotionalism to call them “children” is a lie. And in ten years the children won't be children either.
But the insane America hating does not stop there. Without verifying their parents, without medical checks for contagious diseases, and without passing customs, what does the Federal government and TSA do? It buses and jets them all over the USA (to relatives??) where they can hide and not be traced or quarantined or deported. Absolutely insane!
Thanks “compassionate tolerate” (ha! ha!) democrats / leftsists / progressives; and also thanks RINO spineless republicans (afraid to be called “racist” for protecting America).
In the public eye it looks like Sarah Palin is about the only one who has any balls. Pathetic.
And while all this diverts attentions, the Fed – Obama – sign laws moving USA closer to full privileges for homosexuals and sodomites while just barely leaving some exemptions for religious interests.
Oh, and add to my prior comment, the “straw that breaks the camels' backs” on already strained (bankrupt) city budgets, and on Fed/State welfare systems. And don't let some catastrophe, or attack, or terrorism happen while in that stretched and strained condition.
I call this form of mentality “selective outrage.” You are either offended, or you’re not. You cannot be offended at one thing, and take acceptance to another when something is similar and is directed at someone else out of a different perspective.
I would bet you if these were not known, political figures who were portrayed in blackface, the black community would be all up in arms, demand that these images be removed and an apology issued. Reminds me years ago that a local Timberland Regional Library branch received complaints from patrons when they came across VHS copies of the “Jazz Singer” with Al Jolson in blackface and “Othello” with Laurence Olivier, who too was in black face (not like Jolson’s image). Also, the time when the Olympia Jazzfest that spent thousands of dollars on advertisement, posters and fliers featuring images done of known jazz musicians of that era such Louis Armstrong and Duke Ellington illustrated by fame caricaturist Al Hirschfeld. However, due to numerous complaints of how these musicians were drawn, the Olympia Jazzfest was ordered to remove the posters and fliers around town and issue an apology. I have seen many of Hirschfeld’s work of known celebrities, namely blacks, out of the pages of TV Guide, somehow those images aren’t considered offensive.
OK, if they have a problem with images of Al Jolson and Laurence Olivier in blackface, it is very hypocritical of them to allow someone like Godfrey Cambridge who was in white makeup in “The Watermelon Man,” a black man portraying a racist white man, who turns into a black man. Other blacks who were in whiteface: Eddie Murphy, Sean and Marlon Wayans (White Chicks), Dave Chappelle, Eddie Griffin, and recently “America’s Got Talent” host Nick Cannon. So far, only a handful of blacks took exception to Billy Crystal when he portrayed Sammy Davis Jr. during his stint on SNL and on an Oscar night broadcast, and when Montel Williams took offense to Ted Danson when put on minstrel blackface during a roast of Whoopi Goldberg. Why would the others give Billy Crystal and Ted Danson a free pass, but would complain about Al Jolson or others in blackface? Even to this day, it is not politically correct for any white person to portray any other people of another race such as Asians, indigenous people or Arabs.
-BP
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anon "LOL at Gerald and P Allen.
I guess these are White conservatives harassing the Black conservatives at this NAACP convention . . .
VIDEO: Black Conservatives Met With Hostility and Harassed at NAACP Convention"
You beat me to the punch, but you are right. I've said that the NAACP stands for the National Association for the Advancement of Colored PROGRESSIVES. That video definitely makes the case. The NAACP can't stand blacks who are goose step in march with liberal Democrats. Sometimes I truly believe that black liberals are more cynical and closed minded then white liberals. Allen and Gerald can't defend against the facts as usual. This is how liberals reacted to blacks at 2012 RNC Convention, they played this warped sick game called"negro spotting" I wonder will they say that the right wing made this up to even though it was reported by the Huffingotn Post.The funny thing about this is that liberals think they are mocking the GOP and black conservatives but trying to claim that the right doesn't have and diversity yet it's liberals both black and white who expect blacks to all be monolithic in thought meaning no diversity of thoughts if you are black. Their own actions prove their bigotry. They talk about of both sides of their mouthes.
Anon;"I guess these are White conservatives harassing the Black conservatives at this NAACP convention".
Harassment? You've got to be kidding... I watched the video and frankly, all I saw was a discussion between two obvious rival ideologues. This is what harassment looks like.
Anonymous "LOL at Gerald and P Allen.
I guess these are White conservatives harassing the Black conservatives at this NAACP convention . . .
VIDEO: Black Conservatives Met With Hostility and Harassed at NAACP Convention"
What a complete fool and tool that dumb black woman in that video was! She hates the Koch brothers so much? Really?
THEN I GUESS SHE SHOULD HATE THE FACT THAT United Negro College Fund SURE TOOK THE KOCH BROTHER'S MONEY!!!!! $25 MILLION TO BE EXACT!!!
Yes, THE United Negro College Fund ACCEPTED $25 MILLION DOLLAR FROM THE RICH, EVIL WHITE CONSERVATIVE KOCH BROTHERS.
So this fat, angry black woman says that Deneen Borelli and CL Bryant are funded by Koch Brothers. (Yes, I am calling names because that what black liberals themselves do best!!) She said to the camera man, "cause they are funded by the Koch Brothers." Really, lady? Are you that dumb? Or are you just misinformed. Probably a combination of the both.
Black liberals like this big mouthed, black woman are trained to do this because the fat cats like Messy Jackson and big race pimpin Al Charlatan. Both Messy Jackson and Charlaton are black multi-millionaire by the way. For them race pimpin is habit!
So will these phony black liberals decry the fact that the evil white Koch brother have now "funded" the United Negro College Fund??? Where are these clowns at now??? I can't here you frauds and hypocrites!!! Plus what is the problem? The international gangster, George Soros, is funding you liberals! Soros spent millions and millions of dollars back in 2004 to try to defeat and get George Bush out of office.
The hypocrisy of the left is amazing.
Well, I guess one liberal group cares about this Koch brother's funding for black college students. lol. The commie State employee Union group, AFSCME, cares:
http://news.yahoo.com/union-pulls-black-college-support-koch-gift-203528992.html
LOL. The United Negro College Fund sure took that $25 million didn't they?!! Even though they knew liberal groups and SOME black liberals would have a big problem with it.
So where is the black liberal elitest college professors???? Michael Eric Dyson - anyone? Where is fast talking Dr. Lamont Hill??? Oh I know. They are on the white cops killing the black man a week ago. Not on the killing spree that took place in Chi-Town 3 weeks ago, but the black man that died to the hands of "white" NYC cops. But I digress.
But you will not hear black liberals saying The United Negro College Fund.......they are funded by the Koch Brother's!!! I guess these clowns don't think $25 million dollars is a lot of money. lol.
Indigo "Floods From Several Sourcres. So Big Brother Lefty did not say “illegal aliens” but rather “undocumented workers” and now, “unnaccompanied children” (thanks CBSNBCABC)."
The left always has to twist the terminology, to make the wrong what they support somehow try to sound more "palatable". They never process that wrong is wrong regardless how it's reworded Indigo. My favorite is when the kooks call abortion "healthcare".
Indigo "Yeah stupid democrats love to ab/use “the children” don't they? We have seen pictures of the masses flowing across USA's southern border (many covering up their face) and they are not all children. Some are teenagers (gangs, criminals?), and adults. Using emotionalism to call them “children” is a lie. And in ten years the children won't be children either."
In ten years, they will be new Democratic voters. That's what this is about. It's either follow the money or follow the power. Then again both are interchangeable. The left can't tell the American people how exactly amnesty and allowing these alien kids (teens) to stay will benefit America and won't harm it. All they can do is post pictures of the 20% of the aliens which are kids. It's deceptive of course, but that's how liberals operate.It reminds me how the media kept showing that young little boy photo of Trayvon Martin instead of his actual age photo.They sure know how to frame a story based of deception.
Indigo "But the insane America hating does not stop there. Without verifying their parents, without medical checks for contagious diseases, and without passing customs, what does the Federal government and TSA do? It buses and jets them all over the USA (to relatives??) where they can hide and not be traced or quarantined or deported. Absolutely insane!"
It is beyond insane. If Americans die due to them being exposed to a certain disease that these illegal aliens are carrying, and the only reason the citizen got that disease is, because the federal government dumped that alien in their community, the federal government should sued or the person who made that decision should be arrested for putting the public's health at risk.
p allen "Harassment? You've got to be kidding... I watched the video and frankly, all I saw was a discussion between two obvious rival ideologues."
No allen,
this is what harrasement truly looks like, pay attention allen
As for the the ignorant lady at the NAACP convention, she was harassing the members of Freedom WOrks. The definition of the word harass is to "annoy or bother". That lady wasn't arguing with Deneen and CL, because she wanted to learn more about Freedom Works and the Tea Party, she did it simply to be combative against them allen. She been had her negatively biased predetermined impression about the tea party, so there was no reason for here interact with them. She didn't want to hear what they had to say, she just wanted to berate them and claim that they shouldn't have even been there. So much for diversity of opposing points of views.
Marcel "What a complete fool and tool that dumb black woman in that video was! She hates the Koch brothers so much? Really?
THEN I GUESS SHE SHOULD HATE THE FACT THAT United Negro College Fund SURE TOOK THE KOCH BROTHER'S MONEY!!!!! $25 MILLION TO BE EXACT!!!"
I am so glad you brought that up Marcel. The left wants the UNCF to return the money!! Even the money from the evil racist Koch borhters is going to help black kids go to college, the left doesn't care. Of course there is no mention about the left saying that they'll replace the $25 million that the UNCF gives back either. The Koch brother's donations completely discredits liberals. Why would evil right wing racists give $25 million dollars in the first place to the UNCF? Would the KKK or the Aryan brotherhood ever do such a thing? Of course they wouldn't. Could it be that the left is wrong about the Koch brothers but are too stupid and gullible to realize it? I believe 1,000% so. That black twit who was arguing doesn't know the first thing about the Koch brothers other then what Democrats told her to think about them. If she was asked to give the first names of the Koch Brothers, I couldn't do it. She's a classic drone. Check this story out from CBS News on the Koch Brother's gift to UNCF. The real criticism isn't coming from blacks but from unions!!
Whether genuine philanthropy, political jujitsu or some of both, the gift sparked a debate that peaked when Lee Saunders, president of the powerful American Federation for State, County and Municipal Employees union, sent the UNCF a blistering letter ending the union's financial support
What does the AFSCE have to do with this? They are playing politics with this. Unless they are going to replace that $25 million, they need to shut the hell up actually.The Koch Brother's gift the UNCF isn't about that the AFSCE. Things like this is why I despise many liberals. Moron Harry Belefonte refereed to the Koch Brothers as "white supremacists" with of course no facts or evidence to back up such a claim. Democrats love naive, impressionable and stupid black folks.
Marcel;"They are on the white cops killing the black man a week ago. Not on the killing spree that took place in Chi-Town 3 weeks ago, but the black man that died to the hands of "white" NYC cops".
Okay...lets equate "law enforcement officers" killing citizens, with street thugs killing citizens.
By what's shown in the video taken by a bystander, at the time the man (Eric Garner) was killed, he had not broken any laws. So according to you, those who conducted the killing spree in Chicago, are no different than each one of those police officers that attacked, and caused the death of Mr. Garner. Thus, you've labeled these cops as murderous thugs. So in essence, it doesn't matter which crime Dyson or Hill complains about, being that the cops and the Chicago thugs are all brutal killers....
Allen”Okay...lets equate "law enforcement officers" killing citizens, with street thugs killing citizens. By what's shown in the video taken by a bystander, at the time the man (Eric Garner) was killed, he had not broken any laws. So according to you, those who conducted the killing spree in Chicago, are no different than each one of those police officers that attacked, and caused the death of Mr. Garner. Thus, you've labeled these cops as murderous thugs. So in essence, it doesn't matter which crime Dyson or Hill complains about, being that the cops and the Chicago thugs are all brutal killers....”
Nope. We don’t need to, Allen. And I never called the cops murderous thugs. You as the black liberal you are just did. And I like how you say, “at the time of the arrest” – conveniently leaving out what they wanted him for. Nice try, though. Lol. I do not think the cops killed the man on purpose. And the Garner did resist arrest – I love how you and other black libs fail to mention that. And he had broken the law many times before by selling untaxed cigarettes on the black market. You can thank the liberals in NY for raising the cigarette taxes so high he found a market to do that. And yeah, I heard them saying in the background he broke up a fight, but if he was already wanted by the police for selling untaxed cigarettes before, then he should have just surrendered. That’s what I would have done. And if the cops were wrong about it all, he could have had his day in court and prove just that and sue the paints off of the NYPD. If they were all totally wrong. That being said, the use of force may have gone too far - not the arrest. The cop that applied the choke hold should be fired if the choke was banned from being used. They had a right to place him under arrest, but the use of force may have been a little too much once they had him down and subdued. But, again Eric should NOT have resisted. But I do not think they are just brutal killers like the black thugs who terrorize the communities everyday, Allen. And they are being more than held accountable for death. The main cop that took him down with the choke had his badge and gun taken from him. So it not like nothing is being done to him. They even got the idiot Mayor, De Cummeio, involved.
Now the other video out there with the cop beating the black person the highway should be fired and or jailed because the person he was hitting was clearly subdued. I call out the cops when they wrong, but refuse to put them all down. Are there bad ones out there that need to be fired, YES! But so should some public school teachers that are corrupt and cannot be fired thanks to the Democrats beloved teacher’s union.
These phony black liberal elitist college professors, and, of course, liberals like you, Allen, have very selective outrage. Very selective outrage. The fact that the race pimps only stick their ugly heads out for justice THE VERY FEW TIMES a white person commits a violent crime against a black person is beyond ridiculous and says a lot about them.
So black thugs viciously murder and rape their own people in urban America every single day and you all are silent about it. Not a peep. Or you make excuses for it when someone brings it up. Or you call people Uncle Toms and white racist if they mention it. Lol. But maybe a couple times a year, a Michael Dunn asshole or a Zimmerman fool kills a black person and you all go nuts – Marches and all. Here goes Al Charlaton, Messy Jackson, Dyson, and fast mouth Dr. Hill. Why no Marches for victims of black on black crime, Allen?? Why no marches for Darryl Green, who was an honor roll student in Chicago and who was killed by black thugs because he did not want to join their gang? Are you guys really that dumb, angry, or racist? Probably all of the above. But I hope not. Because what if white Americans as a whole started making a big deal nationally about all this black on white crime that as gone on for years and been covered up and not reported by the liberal lame stream media?
What if white people had Marches in Tennessee and elsewhere about the Knoxville Murders of 2008? You want me to go on Allen? I have more. Oh, and I don’t need Colin Flaherty’s book either. He’s trying to make money; I’m not. I can provide you with stuff in my state on black on white crime I guarantee you he does not have. And it is just very funny to me that when and if white people ever do bring up the silent epidemic of black on white or violence or black on white rape or black on black crime they are called a racist by you black libs. Or some black libs get really goofy and bring up the white boys that shoot up the schools and colleges. lol. Yeah, you have the depressed white boys that shoot the schools up, Allen. And lately some have even been black boys doing it, too, BTW….... But every single month black men kill more black men by 5pm than Adam Lanza and Jerad Miller ever could have killed kids and people in the couple minutes they did. And these black thugs even hit black kids and little black baby girls riding their bikes down the street and have no remorse about it. But nothing from you black libs on that………..NOTHING. Like I said before, you all are still stuck on what that ONE “white” man did to a black person this year. Right now it just happens to be a white cop. And the cop should be fired for using an illegal choke hold that may have contributed to the Eric’s death if that’s what is found from the investigation. But a brutal killer, like the black thugs in the hood, Allen? No way. But you guys are just waiting on the next Michael Dunn, Zimmerman, or racist white person to kill a black this year, right Allen? Dyson, Hill, Jackson, and Charlaton are waiting for the once or twice a year Dunn or Zimmerman. But again you all are silent on the murders in Chicago, NYC, Philadelphia, South Central LA, and Baltimore, and etc. And I could go on. But there will be no Marches or national news coverage that Michael Dunn got last year, or Zimmerman the year before. Unbelievably pathetic, Allen…….
Marcel;"And I like how you say, “at the time of the arrest” – conveniently leaving out what they wanted him for".
How about copying and pasting where I wrote that?. I wonder how you're going to spin your way out of that stupid assertion. Perhaps you'll use the ole' conservative dumbo line of, "I misspoke" (or mis-wrote). Are you attempting to channel Rick Santorum? Did you get you words mixed up and said "blah people?" Perhaps you'll claim "sarcasm" or "mockery." What ever the case, I'm not going to let your duplicitous stupidity off the hook. So, try again...
Marcel; "And he had broken the law many times before by selling untaxed cigarettes on the black market".
Breaking the law many times before selling black market loose cigarettes? Marcel, the more you write, the more I become convinced that you're a real tool. Conservatives often decry "to many government regulations stifling freedoms and the burdening of capitalist entrepreneurship."
Here are people openly and defiantly breaking the law SELLING LEMONADE!. Someone in the background can be heard telling the police to "LEAVE THEM ALONE!" Yet, not choke holds were used... I wonder why? Also, I remember a story about a little girl that was ticketed and fined $500 for selling lemonade.
The fact is Marcel, that you're selective as to how issues such as these fits into your preconceived political agenda. If it's a black guy selling untaxed cigarettes being killed by police, it's convenient political fodder. Hence, the black guy is "dealing in the black market." It's the Democrats fault for "raising taxes." And if black folks complain, just redirect the conversation to Chicago murders, Detroit crime, Baltimore drug dealers, etc... However, when it's conservative whites or their children selling lemonade without a permit or licence, and being held to the same standard of the law, it's "tyranny, socialism, fascism and an oppressive government."
So, since you're not to keen on correctly quoting what I write in my posts, allow me to get you on record as to you stance on the issue of "illegal cigarettes vs. illegal lemonade." We've already established your take on selling illegal cigarettes.(ie. black market, serial law breaker, etc...) Do you agree with 7 year olds being ticketed and fined for selling illegal lemonade? Do you agree with the people that were arrested for selling illegal lemonade at the capital? And, the girls that "obviously" resisted and defied the law, should the cops have used a choke hold on them? Remember, it's for the record.
Allen" So, since you're not to keen on correctly quoting what I write in my posts, allow me to get you on record as to you stance on the issue of "illegal cigarettes vs. illegal lemonade." We've already established your take on selling illegal cigarettes.(ie. black market, serial law breaker, etc...) Do you agree with 7 year olds being ticketed and fined for selling illegal lemonade? Do you agree with the people that were arrested for selling illegal lemonade at the capital? And, the girls that "obviously" resisted and defied the law, should the cops have used a choke hold on them? Remember, it's for the record."
I think the cops did the right thing here, Allen. And no choke hold was need on those girls, and it should not have be applied on Garner either because I believe it may be illegal. Yes, they should be if they broke the law like Garner they should have been taken away. I may not agree with it, and it was petty, but you have to follow the law. It was illegal to be where they were selling the drinks.
But pulling the race card again, though, Allen? Well if you are pulling the race card again and are IMPLYING that the cops in the Garner incident were just racist, but these little white girls got off easier because they were, “little WHITE girls,” I do not agree. And also, I did not see the same level of resistant Garner put up. The girls did have some back talk, but they clearly gave right in and did not fight once their hands were behind their backs. And I understand you are an angry black lib who has a chip on your shoulder about race in America, Allen. I get that. I know I know. THE LITTLE WHITE GIRLS DID NOT GET BEAT DOWN LIKE THE BIG BLACK MAN DID! WA WA! I did not see the need for the capital police to do that to those girls. Lol. And I have already said the force used on Garner, ONCE HE WAS DOWN, was too much at that point. And I said if that choke was illegal, which I believe it is, the cop should be fired for using it and his family should sue the NYPD, which they are in the process of doing; I have no issue with that. But I still say, and you might not like it, Allen, that Garner made it worst by resisting and going off on the Officers.
Garner made it clear the he was not going anywhere and he was not going to put his hands behind his back. Garner was a big man and his body language was clear - he was not going down with out a fight that day. Go back and watch the video and listen to what he said and the way he moved his arms up and down. Bad move; I would not play with Police Officer like that. Especially since he was a very large man with an Asthma problem only he knew about at the time. I would have complied now and got paid later – IF....AND ONLY IF I was right and they were wrong.
Allen”The fact is Marcel, that you're selective as to how issues such as these fits into your preconceived political agenda. If it's a black guy selling untaxed cigarettes being killed by police, it's convenient political fodder. Hence, the black guy is "dealing in the black market." It's the Democrats fault for "raising taxes." And if black folks complain, just redirect the conversation to Chicago murders, Detroit crime, Baltimore drug dealers, etc... However, when it's conservative whites or their children selling lemonade without a permit or licence, and being held to the same standard of the law, it's "tyranny, socialism, fascism and an oppressive government."
LOL. My political agenda? It is convenient for political fodder?? Really, Allen? You mean like Al Charlatan and the black liberal elite’s political fodder? You are right, Allen. I mean it is a damn shame those phony black liberal elitist college professors – like Dyson and Hill - along with race hustling Al - want to make this political fodder about how blacks are under physical attack by white people like this is 1955. And actually I have not seen any prominent conservative talk show host or bloggers use this for political fodder. What’s the gain? A black man lost his life. What conservative talk show host thinks it is funny political fodder, Allen? Post one; name one!! I myself want to see what they said! And don’t give me racist sites like Stormfront or some other far right sites like the conservative Tree site or whatever they call it. I want you to show me how it is the mainstream right wing media using this for political fodder and black liberals are not, Allen. Because all I have seen is typical race hustlers like Al and some black liberal college professors on CNN and MSNBC running with this story. I did see some conservative attack the cigarettes tax, though.
I say eliminate the damn cigarettes taxes because the phony liberal politicians cannot prove to you or I where the money from the taxes go anyway. Liberals you support Allen. The liberals who said it will stop teens from smoking and they will use the money for education. LOL.
Here’s the deal, Allen. If you don’t like people bringing up black on black crime and black on white crime because you think it is political, then maybe you and other black libs like the clowns I mentioned before should stop with b.s. whenever ONE white person kills a black person. It makes you all look like hypocrites. We all know the numbers on black on white crime vs. white on black crime, so why do you all like to even go there, Allen? Interracial crime is sooo far out of proportion it is insane, yet very alarming. So maybe black liberals should not have made Trayvon Martin and Jordan Davis political, Allen. Both of their killers are paying the price for what they did and rightfully so. So of course conservatives will bring up black on black crime and black on white crime when you black liberals dig up very RARE cases of white on black crime and your black liberal leaders run to it for politics. I call them your black liberal leaders because they are damn sure not mine. I personally think it is all bad. But you black libs have no credibility when you go on and on and on for justice for Trayvon and Jordan Davis, but no justice Marches for Darryl Green, a black honor roll student from Chicago, who was killed by black thugs because he would not join the gang.
All of the crime is wrong, but again, black liberals lose credibility by only dealing with the ONE side that RARELY happens. When the liberal lame stream media finally does it’s job and covers it ALL, not just the rare white on black crimes, me and Tyrone and others will not have to keep talking about black on black or black on white crime.
Here’s another one for you, Allen. Forget the white Marine that was kidnapped and killed by black thugs that were jealous he was dating a black girl. Or forget the Knoxville, TN, kidnapping and subsequent murders that the national liberal media covered up in 2008. Forget those. Let’s look at lower level stuff, Allen. Violent assaults by black thugs on whites minding their business.
And you can't blame the news(WBAL) this time for bothering to report it because they did not.
Attack on Guilford Bike Route in Baltimore, MD:
http://videos.freepatriot.org/video/Attacked-on-Guilford-Bike-Route
Guilford Avenue is in Baltimore City, going towards downtown. Another white man riding his bike home and is attacked by coward black thugs for no reason other than what, Allen? Oh, I know. Wrong place, wrong time, right? Or, I know, that white boy should have had sense enough to not ride his bike through there?
Here is the white victims account of what happened via his Youtube account:
Recorded on 4/12/14. "Attacked by a group of teenagers on the bike route on the 1600-1700 block of Guilford Ave. You can hear when they threw a bottle at me from behind and then see when I try to grab my lock as a last resort as they started to attack, but dropped it. Grabbed it before they did. Only damage was to my thumb when they stomped it. Took punches, but they must have hit my helmet, because I don't have any marks. Camera cuts out at the end around this time. On the ground I started yelling "help help help". Residents started coming out and a distant siren scared them off. Called 911 after and met with an officer a few minutes later."
Now I know Allen. Well how do we know it was about race, right? Wrong place, wrong time for that white boy. He should have know better than to be a white boy riding his bike in an area Baltimore where black kids and men live. I know, know. Black liberal will blame the white victim because the black thugs did not know know any better, they probably grew up and had hard lives, and they just need more education. But it could not have been about race.(Unless the races were reversed of course) I heard it all before from black liberals, Allen. I know the same lines from the black thug and criminal apologetics on the left. There. I saved you the trouble from writing it, Allen.
Allen" Here are people openly and defiantly breaking the law SELLING LEMONADE!. Someone in the background can be heard telling the police to "LEAVE THEM ALONE!" Yet, not choke holds were used... I wonder why? Also, I remember a story about a little girl that was ticketed and fined $500 for selling lemonade."
Here comes the RACE CARD!!!!! Don’t leave home without it , Allen. I knew it was coming soon.
Allen”How about copying and pasting where I wrote that?. ………………So, try again...”
“at the time the man (Eric Garner) was killed, he had not broken any laws.”
There you go Allen!
So I guess to you don’t think, Marcel saying, “at the time of the arrest” and Allen saying, “at the time the man (Eric Garner) was killed” is not the same thing. We are talking about the same time silly billy.
So I guess you don’t think Garner was being placed under arrest and resisting it before he died, Allen? No I did not DIRECTLY quote you and I did not need to. I really did not need to because you know what said was not that far from what I wrote. I was talking about the same thing whether I said exactly what you said or not. And for the record, NO, I did not misspeak!! Nice try, though!
But yes, while we are at it, let's look at what you said again, Allen: "at the time the man (Eric Garner) was killed, he had not broken any laws."
So you are saying that at the time Garner was killed he did not break any laws. Really, Allen? Wow. How do you really know anyway? AND RESISTING ARREST WAS AND IS NOT AGAINST THE LAW IN NY AND IN ALL STATES? TO YOU? Sorry but it is not, "Allen’s law." And also, the cops did not JUST KILL him, so just stop it! I refuse to play into that b.s. I think it was wrong, but it was an accident by ONE overzealous cop who did the choke that may be illegal. They told him they wanted to take him in for his selling of untaxed cigarettes, AND HE WENT OFF!! THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO DO THAT YOU KNOW, ALLEN. THEY TOLD HIM BEFORE, AND HAPPENED TO SEE HIM THAT DAY. But from there he resisted arrest. It is just unfortunate that he died as a result of the force used. And I said the force, once he was down, may have been too much since he was subdued. But I do no think it would have gone that far had he just complied and not went off like a mad man and not resisted. Just my opinion.
Again, again, AND AGAIN Garner should not have resisted arrest because he made it worst on himself. If I knew I had Asthma like Garner, which is what I am hearing he had, I would not be trying to yell'ed at, threw my hands to let them no they have problem now and resist police officers!! Now if they took him down like that, and he was not resisting whatsoever, I would be right with you, Allen. And I don’t know about you, or what you teach your kids, but I would never resist arrest – even if I knew I was right and the cops were wrong. Resisting arrest can get you what happened to Garner – period, Allen. I don't like the outcome, but it is a lesson - don't do; you can't win.
You never win fighting with police and resisting arrest. I know that is hard for you to accept, but you don’t have a choice. I said it before, I will say it again: If the cops were wrong about everything, including the cigarettes, then Garner would have have had no problem proving it in court. However, he resisted and died. But nope. Garner made it clear he was going down with a fight! Black men in the hood are just going to learn the hard way. I actually have been profiled and harassed by cops for no reason before. What do black libs call it? Driving while black? lol. Yeah I went through being pulled over for nothing before. I am not going to whine about it like a black liberals like you because I understand what to do if it happens and if it goes too far. There are bad cops out here that should not be cops. And there are good ones. The same goes with Teachers in our public schools that the Democrat's Teacher's Union makes it almost next to impossible to fire. But back talking and resisting arrest while be surrounded never goes well, Allen. You are smart enough to know that, right Allen? I mean take your black liberal emotion out of it for a minute and think about that. I am also glad the whole thing was caught on tape. I support Officers being recorded. A good friend of mine told me he has no problem being recorded because he does the right thing.
Looks like the LOCAL media did get this back in April. For all of two minutes.......
Helmet Cam: Baltimore bike rider attacked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10IeZrpQhP8#t=126
Nothing here. The attacks were NOT by whites and the victim was NOT black. They rarely are, really. So nothing here. Liberals would say, big deal. Move on.
MSNBC would say call us back when you find one were the races are reversed.
How about this video: two black thugs follow a woman into a building, beat and rob her! Any media coverage?
http://youtu.be/PQTfFd02bPQ
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