Some helpful tips to help young black males to stay out of trouble with the police.
Since young blacks especially young males believe they are experiencing problems with their local law enforcement agency aka 50, popo, The Heat etc here are some simple tips presented by Chris Rock as a public and comedic courtesy which should help to go a very long way in helping black experience fewer encounters with their local law enforcement. The first rule
"Obey the Law" is roughly 90% of the solution that will contribute greatly to them not having a problem with the police future.
"Obey the Law" is roughly 90% of the solution that will contribute greatly to them not having a problem with the police future.
Just use common sense!
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The do-good, so-called compassionate white liberal establishment have given millions of black Americans the opportunity to view themselves as perennial victims of racism for nearly 50 years. LBJ & Martin Luther King began the process of preparing a future of Democrat supporting & life long, government dependent wards who are incapable of recognizing the negative consequenses of their bad behavior.
In short, Chris Rock's humorously but honest advise will continue to be ignored by the very people who wilfully follow the juvenile philosophy of liberalsim which will promote future icidents such as the tragedy in Ferguson MO!
Here we go again. Hell, it goes on everyday. And sadly, there will be NO marches or rallies for this deceased kid or his Mom. No Sharpton. No Jesse. No black mobs calling for justice. No nothing.
NO NATIONALLY TELEVISED FUNERAL FOR THIS DEAD CHILD'S MOTHER! And he was a child! Not 18 like, Michael Brown.
Too bad this killer was black............
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLEOwUMlnqA
I am glad he is going to be charged as an adult, but the liberal Maryland court of appeals will over turn that and see that his case is sent to Juvenile Court, so the killer can be out by 21 years of age or at least anytime before 28.
Just the 3 year girl shot on the porch in West Baltimore by worthless black thugs. No marches or calls for her coward killer to come forward. And phony black liberals are no were to be found because the killer was black. They are still waiting for their one white man a year case. Last year it was Michael Dunn, who is in jail now - rightfully so. Well, they got two this year....TWO! This year it was Renisha McBride and now Darren Wilson. And you know they will be DIGGING for more.
Chris Rock's funny take connects with those on the street who most need it... Though shortened., I just came across these 5 rules:
Interacting with the police:
1. Obey the law.
2. Don't hang out with lawbreakers.
3. If stopped by the law, keep your hands absolutely visible.
4. Obey their instructions and commands promptly.
5. Remain calm and polite no matter what happens.
(borrowed)
The problem with most black males these days is the way the present themselves. I have a lot more respect with those who use proper vocabulary, well groomed, and dress casually. If I were to come across one who uses poor vocabulary and dresses like a thug, I avoid such a person.
If young black males do not want to be stopped by law-enforcement officers because they "fit the description" of a criminal, or whatever, here is a video by Charles R. Patrick who started a "challenge" for anyone who dresses like a criminal:
http://youtu.be/zNhsfVSFEXg
renee "The do-good, so-called compassionate white liberal establishment have given millions of black Americans the opportunity to view themselves as perennial victims of racism for nearly 50 years."
Yep, the Democratic Party has never been in the business of talking to blacks that they are masters of their own destiny and that the only ones who are holding themselves back are themselves. Self empowerment and self victimization go together like oil and water.
renee "
LBJ & Martin Luther King began the process of preparing a future of Democrat supporting & life long, government dependent wards who are incapable of recognizing the negative consequenses of their bad behavior."
When people are taught that they are victims of life due to the color of their skin, it becomes easy for them to not want to work hard, because their thinking becomes "why even try, the deck is stacked against me". So they become victims to their own victimization brainwashing. That's why liberals promote the BS straw men arguments like "white privilege" and "institutionalized racism".
renee "n short, Chris Rock's humorously but honest advise will continue to be ignored by the very people who wilfully follow the juvenile philosophy of liberalsim which will promote future icidents such as the tragedy in Ferguson MO!"
I have yet hear a story in which an innocent black person who was simply minding his or her business was stopped by the police and beaten for no apparent reason. If the cops have to chase after the suspect, they are going to be psychical in apprehending them. If the suspects cooperates, then there is no problem. I've never had an issue with cops in all my life as a black male. Now if cops is a "major threat" to black men as liberals keep saying, why haven't I've been targeted? They can't answer that. Some blacks are smart enough to see through the liberal bs about cops and while others are the perfect pawns to by into fake narrative that cops are somehow the main problem facing blacks. Notice how the fake supporters of Michael Brown do everything possible to shy away from talking about his activities inside the store. This wasn't some innocent "child" just minding his own business.
Indigo "How do you know he is unarmed? And do you wait until seeing him pull out a gun before deciding he is armed? That would often be too late."
Liberal logic is so screwed up, it's absurd! You are absolutely right Indigo. Liberals think this is the suppose to be the wild west in which two people are in a duel, and the shooter must wait for the other shooter to pull his gun first before he shoots his. This isn't a freaking western. lol
When cops yell LET ME SEE YOUR HANDS, they yell that for a reason. If a suspect gets into a psychical altercation with a cop, the coop has ever recourse to make sure that suspect does not reach for his or her service weapon, if that cops becomes overpowered or his or her life is in danger, then that officer has the right to use if necessary deadly force.
Indigo "Unarmed does not mean harmless. An unarmed man can kill you with his body. A wounded man may not drop to the ground but be more mad and redouble his effort to charge at and kill you (and may be on drugs)."
People who are doped up on PCP have the strength of several people. They can't be taken down by one person. There are situations in which multiple cops are needed in order to subdue as suspect. Sometimes I try to picture a scenario through the eyes of a cop, and all I can say is that there is no such thing as a typical scenario when it comes to apprehension. Maybe progressives think that law enforcement should act in the role of social workers or mediators and talk more to suspects, the kumbaya approach I guess.
Marcel "Here we go again. Hell, it goes on everyday. And sadly, there will be NO marches or rallies for this deceased kid or his Mom. No Sharpton. No Jesse. No black mobs calling for justice. No nothing.
NO NATIONALLY TELEVISED FUNERAL FOR THIS DEAD CHILD'S MOTHER! And he was a child! Not 18 like, Michael Brown."
It doesn't fit the template of the social justice activist media Marcel.
Black Suspect, Black Victim, Yawn
Black Suspect, White Victim, Yawn
White Suspect, White Victim, Yawn
White Suspect, Black Victim, DING DING, DING, DING, DING!!!!!!!!!!
It's funny how progressives get mad, because we actually notice this. They can't justify why there is a clear bias in the media in regards to race, they just want everybody to just ignore the bias and focus on the "narrative". I heard about that story in Dundalk. I feel for the mother. Some friend that scum bag turned out to be. Sadly yet another black life snuffed out yet again at the hands of a black male.
Marcel "Just the 3 year girl shot on the porch in West Baltimore by worthless black thugs. No marches or calls for her coward killer to come forward. And phony black liberals are no were to be found because the killer was black."
They all are phonies, fakes and two faced frauds!! Every last one of them. Children being killed in their own communities and they say nothing, yet they rally for a thug in another state ONLY ONLY ONLY because he was shot by a white cop in an altercation. If Officer Wilson was black, they all would be saying "Michael Brwon who" and saying whatever and going about their business.
Marcel "
They are still waiting for their one white man a year case. Last year it was Michael Dunn, who is in jail now - rightfully so. Well, they got two this year....TWO! This year it was Renisha McBride and now Darren Wilson. And you know they will be DIGGING for more."
Of course, liberals have to keep the racial grievance and agitator crowd fed. They have to keep them thinking on anger and rage, they can't afford for them to actually use their brain to process and come to the conclusion that they are being played for fools. If liberals didn't have race, gender or income to divide people, they would be finished. This is all they have
"War On Women"
"Income Inequality"
"White Privileged" "Institutionalized Racism"
and on and on and on.
Indigo;"Chris Rock's funny take connects with those on the street who most need it... Though shortened., I just came across these 5 rules".
You forgot, "hang out white a white friend."
Indigo;"Finally, the suggestion was made, put a man with a gun, in a cage with a lion, and see if he “shoots to wound".
Put an Uzi in the hands of a 9 year old girl, and attempt to show her how to shot it, and see if you can come out alive. Put a loaded gun in the hands of young black gang-bangers and see if they shoot to wound. Leave a loaded gun in your home where a child can find it, and see if he or someone else will only be wounded. Hell, put a loaded gun in a cage of chimpanzee's and wait to see if any of them get wounded!
Marcel;"NO NATIONALLY TELEVISED FUNERAL FOR THIS DEAD CHILD'S MOTHER! And he was a child! Not 18 like, Michael Brown.
Too bad this killer was black...........".
Too bad the killer was black??? What color did you hope the killer would be? How about, "to bad the kid was shot in the first place?"
FACT: All this political and racial bickering was brought on by an unarmed man being killed by a police officer.
FACT: The community of Ferguson, MO. has a KNOWN history of racial tensions between the police department and the black citizens. Due to the killing of Michael Brown, this tension is what spawned the protests and riots.
FACT: There are at least 3 witnesses who CLAIM they saw Michael Brown attempting to surrender. At this time, no other witnesses have come forward to directly dispute this claim.
Until there's evidence shown that Michael Brown DID NOT attempt to surrender, I am of the OPINION that the police officer was WRONG and criminal to shoot and kill a man that's attempting to surrender.
CB;"Sadly yet another black life snuffed out yet again at the hands of a black male".
How many essays have you done about "a black life being snuffed out at the hands of black males?" Where was your essay on the senseless killing of Hadiya Pendleton? Residents across Chicago poured in tips and information until the killers were apprehended. I'd be willing to bet most of the tips came from residents of the black community. Where were your comments about the capture of her killers?
You posted (used as a prop) a picture of 9 year Antonio Smith on an essay where you didn't even use his name in the title. Where are your comments on the reward thats being offered for his killers?.
These senseless murders, and black-on-black crime are of no concern to right-wingers until blacks make an issue of police on black violence, or white on black violence. Like yourself Tyrone, conservatives only use the the "black-on-black crime" mantra to satisfy a right-wing political agenda. What get's lost in the middle is the VIOLENCE BEING PERPETRATED BY AMERICAN CITIZENS AMERICAN AGAINST CITIZENS.
p allen "How many essays have you done about "a black life being snuffed out at the hands of black males?""
When it stops being the truth, then I'll stop talking about it. Fair enough allen? I'll keep on doing essays, stories whatever as long as facts remain what they are.
p allen "Residents across Chicago poured in tips and information until the killers were apprehended. I'd be willing to bet most of the tips came from residents of the black community. Where were your comments about the capture of her killers?"
Well hmm let me see allen, since the national media other then a mere mention on it's website never mentioned this story, how could I have known about it in order to comment on it? Why hasn't this story gotten the level of attention as the gentle giant Michael Brown?hmm?Oh snap, what was I thinking? Hadiya Pendleton is black and the shooter more then likely is black, and the only reason why her murder received some fraction of attention still nothing like that that of Trayvon Martin or Michael Sam received is, because she performed at Obama's configuration ceremony. If she didn't perform at Obama's inauguration, five second clip on the Chicago news, on to weather and sports.
p allen "You posted (used as a prop) a picture of 9 year Antonio Smith on an essay where you didn't even use his name in the title. Where are your comments on the reward thats being offered for his killers?."
Prop? lol The real props are Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin and others like them. Their deaths have been "propped up" by racial agitators, self victims and social justice losers in order to make racial issues out of incidents where there was no racist motives. Prop?Again, if Michael Sam was white or Darren Wilson was black, you all wouldn't give a dam about him being shot by a cop. The hands up don't shoot crap is so dam phony!! If George Zimmerman was a black neighborhood watch person and the events unfolded the same. This story would have still been local with not outrage just like the white guy was "UNARMED" ;-) in Salt Lake who was shot by a black cop. Antonino Smith's death shows how phony blacks are. There should be justice for Antonino Smith, he was a real child not a man being passed off as a child like Michael Brown. I believe there should be rallies in Chicago demanding that his killer be found and prosecuted. I want that for Antonino and his mother and family. I'm consistent in what I say. my foundation is rock solid.
Check yours allen.
p allen "These senseless murders, and black-on-black crime are of no concern to right-wingers until blacks make an issue of police on black violence, or white on black violence. Like yourself Tyrone, conservatives only use the the "black-on-black crime" mantra to satisfy a right-wing political agenda. What get's lost in the middle is the VIOLENCE BEING PERPETRATED BY AMERICAN CITIZENS AMERICAN AGAINST CITIZENS."
We bring this up to again, SHOW HOW FAKE AND TWO FACED you liberals are on the issue allen. Again, BLACKS ARE OVERWHELMINGLY more likely to die at the hands of another black person then that of a cop. FACT! FACT! FACT! FACT! FACT! FACT! FACT! FACT! Typical blinded liberals, so freaking oblivious to how fake they are. You liberals put forth the strawmen of the right as being the greatest crisis the black community has ever known, yet can't produce any evidence to back it up. You all blame the Tea Party, Sarah Plain,Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hanity, the NRA, the Koch Brothers and god knows who else in the vast right wing conspiracy as being the eternal enemy of black folks, when all those that I mentioned have nothing to do with black on black genocide, black drug addiction, black illiteracy, high black unemployment and the derogation of the black community the ghetto hiphop culture. It slays me listening to multi millionaire and billionaire liberals talking about "income inequality". Keep licking it up allen. Those evil right wingers are keeping you down. Hell it was those evil right wingers that turned Detroit into the post apocalyptic arm pit that is right? All these ghettos and slums across America in which blacks reside and none of them are headed by Republicans or the vast right wing conspiracy, go freaking figure allen. Fifty years of blacks being the good little subservient bitches to the Democratic Party has yielded
what in return. At least Hispanics are smart, they are actually making the Democrat Party work for their votes.
p allen "Tyrone, conservatives only use the the "black-on-black crime" mantra to satisfy a right-wing political agenda. What get's lost in the middle is the VIOLENCE BEING PERPETRATED BY AMERICAN CITIZENS AMERICAN AGAINST CITIZENS/"
SPARE ME!!!!!!!!!LOL. All us right wingers see is "black on black crime"? DUH allen!! The overwhelming majority of blacks in prison for murder are in for KILLING OTHER BLACKS!! How many murders happened in Detroit last year? How many of them were white on black allen vs black on black? Speak right up. The facts are a bitch, but they are what they are and will continue to be what they are. Sorry about your dam luck.
Oh and I guess us right wnigers are suppose to ignore you left winger's obsession with the anomaly of white on black crime right? Everytime an isolated case of a white person or cop shooting a blacks suspect, the national media runs to it like a farmer ringing the dinner bell for the cattle to come and eat. How many weeks has the national media rammed this local Fugerson Missouri story down our throats?
If white on black crime happen at the rate of black on black crime, you and the left would have an actual valid point of concern and outage, but it's not the case. You liberals had to go out of your way to splice and edit the George Zimmerman 911 tape in order to make him "appear" to be racist. You all are the ones obsessed with race and phony about it at the same dam time, yet you want to point your fingers at us on the right?!!LOL WHATEVER!!!!!
Surprise, surprise, surprise! Rush Limbaugh pointed out that the "gentle giant" who was recently murdered in Ferguson MO, after robbing a local convenient store while violently shoving the smaller clerk as he headed back home to begin his first college year semester in studying nuclear physicist, may very well possess a juvenile criminal record quite possibly for murder! On top of that, the "scholarly" victim of "Po-leece" brutality has been found to be a member of the notorious crips gang!
PAllen:"What get's lost in the middle is the VIOLENCE BEING PERPETRATED BY AMERICAN CITIZENS AMERICAN AGAINST CITIZENS."
You are so right! So tell the idiots on the left to stop with their ONE WHITE or two WHITE MAN A YEAR CASES!!! You're right. So maybe if liberals can stop making a big deal over anytime a white person kills a black person - WHICH ACCORDING TO YOUR BELOVED "BLACK" ATTORNEY GENERAL, ERIC HOLDER'S, JUSTICE DEPARTMENT STATS, IS RARE!
And no Allen, what is really even more lost in this by you and other liberal drones is that black bodies that fill up the morgue in Baltimore, Chicago and Detroit, and Philadelphia, are not taken by Police Officers, white Police Officers, or white people in general. They are in those morgues every morning and night as a result of blacks killing other blacks! NOT WHITE RACIST POLICE OFFICERS LIKE YOU ALL WANT THE WORLD TO BELIEVE!!
Yeah, Allen, there are certainly white racist officers out here. You love to talk about that, don't you , Allen?(SMILE) That's the stuff that gets you black libs off... I will not deny that, though. There are white racist cops out here. But they are NOT filling up the morgues with black bodies every night and morning.
So if it bothers you that right wingers keep bringing up Chicago, well too bad. You black liberals open yourself wide open for it by making a big deal about blacks being killed by people that are rare. Like Tyrone has said many times, I am many more times.. MANY more times likely to step outside my door and be killed or attack by some worthless black thug, then a white racist cop or white racists in general. Again, look up your boy Holder's Justice Department stats. The truth will set you free.
Allen: Too bad the killer was black??? What color did you hope the killer would be? How about, "to bad the kid was shot in the first place?"
Yeah Allen, too bad. Too bad because you and other phony black liberals would not have given a damn about Michael Brown if he was killed by another black thug or a black police officer. It would not be news, and you know it.
PAllen: "FACT: All this political and racial bickering was brought on by an unarmed man being killed by a police officer.
FACT: The community of Ferguson, MO. has a KNOWN history of racial tensions between the police department and the black citizens. Due to the killing of Michael Brown, this tension is what spawned the protests and riots.
FACT: There are at least 3 witnesses who CLAIM they saw Michael Brown attempting to surrender. At this time, no other witnesses have come forward to directly dispute this claim.
Until there's evidence shown that Michael Brown DID NOT attempt to surrender, I am of the OPINION that the police officer was WRONG and criminal to shoot and kill a man that's attempting to surrender."
FACT: If the officer was black you and your other black liberal friends would not have gave a damn! And Sharpton and Messy would have never been called in. How do I know? Because there have been other cases of black cops killing black and white people and it goes no further then the local 11pm news for 3 minutes - tops! You need proof? Let me know, and I will post some links....
If the evidence shows the cop was wrong, he should go to jail. But if not you black liberals and your white liberal masters need to go away STFU at that point and search and dig for another case where a white person killed a black. LOL. Good luck, though, Allen, because it's rare. Go read up Eric Holder Justice Department stats and you will see who commits the overall lion's share of interracial violence and rapes in this country Allen.
CB;"When it stops being the truth, then I'll stop talking about it. Fair enough allen? I'll keep on doing essays, stories whatever as long as facts remain what they are".
How about just admitting it's "ZERO?"
CB;"Well hmm let me see allen, since the national media other then a mere mention on it's website never mentioned this story, how could I have known about it in order to comment on it?".
So you take your cues from the national media? Really? That's really telling Tyrone. So you only pay attention to stories that left-wing main stream media reports on, so then you can become reactionary and attack the "liberals." That's telling because it shows that your motives are based solely in politically ideological differences. To be honest, I first read about the reward for information on Smith's killers on the conservative site, The Blaze.
The Antonio Smith killing wan't a quote"National Story"en-quote. But somehow you found a photo of the child to post on your essay? In your essay you didn't offer not a one suggestion for a possible solution to black-on-black violence. So, what was your purpose for using a murdered child to support a political point of view?
The murder of Antonio Smith had absolutely nothing to do with, or in common with the killing of Michael Brown. Again, I have to ask this question; Should Darren Wilson, the officer who shot and killed Brown proffer the same assertion, that; "a 9 year old black boy was killed in Chicago, and blacks aren't protesting that?" Should the Ferguson police opine, "Oh well, blacks kill blacks all the time". Of course such public sentiments would be totally absurd. So why are right-wingers doing it?
CB;"Prop? lol The real props are Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin and others like them. Their deaths have been "propped up" by racial agitators, self victims and social justice losers in order to make racial issues out of incidents where there was no racist motives".
Remember that you're the one that waits for "national media" to cover these stories so that you can blame "race baiters" and throw around your ad hominem attacks. And you obviously don't know what a "prop" is. A prop is NOT an integral part of the thing or issue being supported. Brown and Martin were not "props." They "were the issue." You used the murdered boy as a "prop."
CB;"Fifty years of blacks being the good little subservient bitches to the Democratic Party has yielded what in return".
Subservient bitches??? Wow, that's a new one. I see that I'm really beginning to strike a nerve in you Tyrone. Good! Perhaps you're starting to see how disingenuous some of the right-wing's assertions are.
But since you asked what has the Democrats done for the "subservient bitches", why don't you outline what the Republicans have done for those same subservient bitches over the last, let's say ONE HUNDRED YEARS?
p allen "Subservient bitches??? Wow, that's a new one. I see that I'm really beginning to strike a nerve in you Tyrone. Good! Perhaps you're starting to see how disingenuous some of the right-wing's assertions are."
Maybe that was kind of strong. I should have said subservient flunkies, subservient pawns or subservient dopes. Those would have been more fitting. Many rightwingers allen including myself scratch our heads in bewilderment on why many blacks are so subserviently loyal to the Democratic Party yet can't even give a list of reason why specifically that the party has done to warrant that support. They voice that sometimes they feel they are being taken for granted, yet they still support them like clock work. Most of us think it's beyond dumb. Liberals tell me I should be a Democrat because of the color of my skin, I say to them "really". What is it, the follow the herd complex? That's not even close to being a good enough reason.For many blacks however it is. One of my best friends is a die hard libertarian and he's black. I have more respect for him then I do for many black Democrats, because he is a true thinker. I like free thinkers. They follow their own mind. You could never strike a nerve with me allen, because liberals are amusing to me at best allen. Without talking points, liberals are merely that of a Teddy Ruxpin teddy bear without the cassette programming to make it talk.
p allen "But since you asked what has the Democrats done for the "subservient bitches", why don't you outline what the Republicans have done for those same subservient bitches over the last, let's say ONE HUNDRED YEARS?"
I don't need to outline anything about the GOP. First off the GOP doesn't have 90% of the registred black vote. Nice attempt at redirecting the attention away from asking what the Democratic Party has done to warrant the support that it has, so let me stir this back to the original topic, thank you. If the GOP had 90% support of blacks, then it would have to be accountable in justifying why it also had that support. I see you are hung up on the "subservient bitches" remark. Did I strike a nerve? ;-) Should I have said "monolithic group think subservient bitches" instead? lol
Being supportive of someone or entity that is doing something for you is not bad. The problem comes when you are supportive of a person or entity that does nothing for you and takes your support for granted. That makes you look pathetic. When I was a member of the Republican Party, I could actually run off a list of reasons why I was a Republican and none of my reasons had to do with the Democrats. Black Democrats can't do the same.
Marcel;"You are so right! So tell the idiots on the left to stop with their ONE WHITE or two WHITE MAN A YEAR CASES!!!".
Okay, I'll tell the "left" to stop questioning the "one or two killings" by white (since you said white) police officers a year. Perhaps the left, and blacks should not ever question when the police kills blacks. Hell, one or two blacks killed by police a year, no big deal. They probably deserved it anyway.
However, it would be nice if only one or two blacks were killed by police every year. In fact, only a fraction of the police agencies in the U.S. report these stats to federal authorities. But in case you wanted to know, according to the FBI, on average, there are more than 400 people killed by police per year, the majority of them being black, and 18% of those blacks are under the age of 21. Yet those silly blacks and the left have the nerve, the audacity, to question one or two of them?? Like you say, with blacks killing blacks all the time, blacks just shouldn't question, or even be concerned when police kill blacks. It's not like there's some kind of history of white police harassing, assaulting or killing innocent blacks.
Blacks should learn how not to get so bent out of shape about the "one or two" media inspired cases of blacks killed by police. Such as the case of Victor White III, who shot himself in the chest while in police custody in a police vehicle, with his hands cuffed behind him. Iberia, LA police say that White was arrested, patted down and searched, but was able to conceal a .25 automatic handgun. Hell, police often miss handguns when patting down suspects. Moreover, how did the police who had White in custody know that he was suicidal? The cops didn't know he worked a low pay job, smoked marijuana, and had child with his girlfriend. For black men, all of which are signs of a suicidal tendency.
But blacks and the left have done good on Victor Whites apparent suicide. No national media attention, no protests or riots, no Al Sharpton, no Jesse Jackson, no Eric Holder, and not even a comment from President Obama. Even better, none of these race hustling leftest has descended on Louisiana to question the action of the Iberia authorities!
So the those fine white police officers and other officials still have their jobs and their stellar reputations. We on the left wouldn't want to turn that "one or two" police on black killings into "three" police on black killings. Out of the 400 or so police shootings per year, the last thing the left should do is question "any of them." We should celebrate the fact that the race hustles and the leftest media has not blown this suicide out of proportion. The best thing is to allow the Iberia police to serve and protect. Victor White III committed suicide... CASE CLOSED!
See... now I'm a good leftest. Hell, I'm beginning to think like a conservative!
CB;"I don't need to outline anything about the GOP. First off the GOP doesn't have 90% of the registred black vote. Nice attempt at redirecting the attention away from asking what the Democratic Party has done to warrant the support that it has, so let me stir this back to the original topic, thank you".
How many times have I told you Tyrone, the Democrat party hasn't done anything positive to effect the economic, social, educational or political status of black Americans as a whole. However, you can't outline what the Republican party has done, because they have done just as much, if not more of NOTHING as the Democrats! .
CB;"Many rightwingers allen including myself scratch our heads in bewilderment on why many blacks are so subserviently loyal to the Democratic Party yet can't even give a list of reason why specifically that the party has done to warrant that support".
Its simple Tyrone. Basically there's a two party system in America. Blacks as a voting bloc have been duped into choosing "either or." Both political party's view blacks in a "paternalistic" manner. This paternalism began right after the emancipation proclamation, Reconstruction and continues to this day. At that time, and for many years after, blacks were subservient to the Republican party. The FACT is, we as blacks weren't attempting to build a political and social structure on our own.
It's like children who grow up with both parents, and through no fault of their own the parents get divorced. Upon that divorce both parents begin to fight over custody over the children, both attempting to win over the hearts and minds of them.
But as the children grow up into adulthood, the self satisfying showering of misdirected caring of their parents turns them into becoming totally dependent on "either-or" of their parents, which in turn causes the children to unknowingly neglect to build lives for themselves. So one child is dependent on the mother, the other dependent on the father. Both the mother and father are poisoning the minds of the child that they have dependent upon them. So what do you think these grow up children are going to do? How will they act toward one another?
In essence, it wouldn't matter which party blacks choose, the results would be the same. As long as blacks are "associated" with either "PARENT", and don't decide to work to build our own political, social, educational and spiritual structure, "as a whole", we will continue along this road of despair.
CB;"One of my best friends is a die hard libertarian and he's black. I have more respect for him then I do for many black Democrats, because he is a true thinker".
Libertarian-ism is more so an ideology rather than a political party. Even though there are a few Democrat, and even Socialist Libertarians, most of them "vote" Republican, or are associated with the Republican party. But its pretentious to claim to be a "free-thinker" based solely on who (or what) you vote for. You have heard of Bosco the Dog who was twice elected mayor of Sunol, CA. You say black conservatives are "free-thinkers." Would you say that the folks that voted a Dog as mayor are as free-thinking as black conservatives?
CB;"Being supportive of someone or entity that is doing something for you is not bad.".
Wrong! When it come to politics, and a society that supports those politics, depending on someone else to do something for giving them support, is allowing that entity to control you. But WAIT!!! I thought you knew that...? We're talking about politics here, not your neighborhood grocery store.
p allen "Libertarian-ism is more so an ideology rather than a political party."
Oh really allen? So I guess the voter cards of libertarians must be fake then, because libertarians don't really have a political party/ Anyone who knows politics know that an ideology isn't exclusive to only one political party. There are conservative Democrats mostly noted known as the Reagan Democrats and the Blue Dog Democrats. There are liberal Republicans who reside in the North East, Olympia Snow, Susan Colins, Condi Rice, Christie Todd Whitman, Megan McCain etc. There are also libertarian Republicans like Rand and Ron Paul. There are socialist Democrats like Berny Sanders from Vermont.
p allen "Even though there are a few Democrat, and even Socialist Libertarians, most of them "vote" Republican, or are associated with the Republican party."
A lot of them to vote Republican but not, because they like the party. Many libertarians see the Republicans party just as conservatives and tea party see it, as a big government lite version of the Democratic Party. Libertarians run as Republicans, because they have lacked the resources and clout to expand the party to make it a viable third party to challenge the monopoly of the Democratic and Republican Party. It's the same reason the Tea Party runs it's candidates as Republicans and are currently in a battle with the GOP establishment.
p allen "But its pretentious to claim to be a "free-thinker" based solely on who (or what) you vote for."
Monolithic group think is the opposite of free thinkers allen.It's not a matter of who you vote for which makes you are free thinker by "why you vote for that person" is what determines whether you are a subservient drone or a free thinker. I know people who vote Republican straight down the ticket just like a lot of Democrats do. The candidate could be completely against what the voter claims to stand for, but because that candidate has a D or R by his name he or she will get that voter's vote. You know that the ONLY reason I voted in 2008 was because of Sarah Palin. I never liked McCain and he is a Republican. This is why I am a free thinker. If a Republican doesn't represent my values as a conservative, then I will not support him or her. I would have supported a Democrat like Zell Miller over George Bush.
p allen " You have heard of Bosco the Dog who was twice elected mayor of Sunol, CA. You say black conservatives are "free-thinkers." Would you say that the folks that voted a Dog as mayor are as free-thinking as black conservatives?"
I believe in that case the voters were making a statement against the status quo of the political scum which they were forced to vote for in each election cycle.
p allen quoting me "Wrong! When it come to politics, and a society that supports those politics, depending on someone else to do something for giving them support, is allowing that entity to control you. But WAIT!!! I thought you knew that...? We're talking about politics here, not your neighborhood grocery store."
Actually you are wrong as two left shoes. I wonder where that saying came from. lol I am not talking about depending on politicians in general. I am talking about politicians who do their jobs that they were elected to do. All I want a politician to do is lower my taxes, lower regulations and stop making stupid oppressive and absurd laws, that's it. Am I depending on them to do their job, ah yes I am, because I can't lower my taxes nor reduce regulations nor repeal oppressive and burdensome regulations on my own allen, that's why we elect officials to represent us. I though you knew that. Apparently you didn't.
p allen "
p allen "How many times have I told you Tyrone, the Democrat party hasn't done anything positive to effect the economic, social, educational or political status of black Americans as a whole."
Yet you still vote for them. This is why I use the word "subservient" in describing most blacks, thanks for stating the obvious allen.
p allen" However, you can't outline what the Republican party has done, because they have done just as much, if not more of NOTHING as the Democrats!
You are right. If the GOP thought they had a chance at winning over a large chunk of blacks they would try or at least give lip service that they are trying. Democrats don't even do lip service anymore, they already have the cow thus they have the milk for free.The GOP and Democrats are fighting for the holy grail of the political special interest groups, the Hispanic vote. It's coming down to both parties fighting it out so that their party can be credited to giving amnesty to illegals first. Neither party is tripping over itself in regards to blacks, because the GOP knows it won't work outreaching to blacks, because the Democrats have poisoned their minds against the party, and the Democrats know that blacks aren't going anywhere no matter what the party doesn't do for them.
CB;"Oh really allen? So I guess the voter cards of libertarians must be fake then, because libertarians don't really have a political party".
Tyrone, YET AGAIN, its time to take you to school...
First off, I "CLEARLY" wrote; Libertarian-ism is MORE-SO an ideology rather than a political party. The term more-so means, "of the same kind to a greater degree." That being said, you know that the modern Democrats represents a liberal or progressive ideology, right? Whereas the modern Republican party represents a socially conservative ideology...right? So, can you please explain the political and social ideology of a Libertarian? Better still, I'll give you a multiple choice quiz.
American Libertarian political and social ideology represents which of the following:
a)Anarchism
b)Marxist Socialism
c)Liberal/Civic Nationalism
d)Libertarian-ism
e)all of the above
CB;"I believe in that case the voters were making a statement against the status quo of the political scum which they were forced to vote for in each election cycle".
Ahhh... they voted for a Dog. They built a statue, for... a Dog. I'm sure all the dogs in the town were proud...
ACM "Black Suspect, Black Victim, Yawn
Black Suspect, White Victim, Yawn
White Suspect, White Victim, Yawn
White Suspect, Black Victim, DING DING, DING, DING, DING!!!!!!!!!!"
34-year-old Brandon Howell (black) beat and killed and Ann and GeorgeTaylor (both white, and in their 80's) in their basement, then fatally shot three neighbors, 88-year-old Alice Hurst, her son 63-year-old Darren Hurst, and 69-year-old Susan Choucroun, before fleeing in the Taylor's SUV. Howell, a convicted felon with a history of violence, was arrested shortly after the killings. Police say they found him walking along Interstate 29 with a loaded shotgun in his pants.
brutal black killer, 5 white victims
national media: yawn (ignore)
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