Micheal Brown's death has value to the black community for one specific reason.
The racial dinner bell has been rung in Fergurson Missouri, and the black racists and the self victimized black grievance folks have come running. Looks like Eric Garner has become yesterday's news in the eyes of the black agitators. The newest member of the black person's death who has value club is Michael Brown. This is a very exclusive club to be a member of. Current members are Trayvon Martin, Eric Garner to name a few. The main perk of being a member of this club is that black people actually act like they care that you were killed. The only stipulation to be a member is that a black person has to be killed by a white person mainly a cop. Unfortunately if you are black and are killed by another black person, it doesn't count. It's not a bad deal, when you think about it. If you are black and are killed by someone who is white, the national media will immediately champion your death. You'll get a special guest appearance by either Jesse Jackson but mainly Al Sharpton. Blacks will protest in your honor etc. Now if you are killed by another black person, you'll still be mourned, but it wil only be by your immediate family and friends. Some may be asking am I being sarcastic or am I being absurd. Actually I'm being honest. The macro problem facing blacks is other blacks not white cops. I'm not sure what was the situation surrounding the shooting death of Michael Brown, the facts will come out in due time. The racial agitators who have ascended onto Fergurson like vultures eying to pick a any scraps they can find aren't going to help this process on bit, if anything they are gong to hinder it.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 10:47 PM
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Something I had been taught by the time I was in KINDERGARTEN: Right is stronger than wrong just as sure as David was stronger than Goliath; and love is stronger than hate just as sure as Jesus (and His parents) were stronger than king Herod who wanted to kill Him.
Here is a video of a black man, telling those who looted and stole and burned in Ferguson. MO., that it is those black people doing that who need to change, while letting the investigation proceed.
http://clashdaily.com/2014/08/hey-goofy-looters-us-acting-fool-pissed-police-helping1/
CB;"The macro problem facing blacks is other blacks not white cops".
Damn Tyrone, you are so predictable. So the word from the top has come down now? I watched FOX News's coverage of the Ferguson shooting, and you seem to be right on cue.
The right wing spin is intended to "deflect from the issue at hand, and blame the victim." Very smart on their part, yet very harmful and detrimental for the citizens. I've said it many times before, what does blacks killing blacks have to do with "cops killing blacks?" Absolutely nothing. But this is not a rallying cry to do something about black on black crime. This right-wing narrative and talking point, has a design.
I have never been one of those whacked out crazed conspiracy theorist. However, this right-wing tactic is as plain as day. While people are blacks are dying at the hands of themselves and law enforcement, right wing politicians and pundits are playing politics. Deep down the politicians know that shooting an unarmed "civilian" black, white, brown or yellow is wrong. (well, at least the sane ones know its wrong...).
For political purposes, the message is sent that; "no one cares when they kill each other, so we (conservatives) shouldn't care when police kill them. Well, many white conservatives really don't care either way. But black conservatives have to follow suit so that they don't upset the white conservative. The last thing a black conservative wants is to be called a racist.
Now put into play the Black Democrat in the White House. Honestly... what do you think a black man would say, and how he would feel about police killing unarmed citizens? Frankly, what would Bush have said? Clinton? Reagan? Even though they all would say its wrong, for President Obama to say it, his comment are to be viewed as "racist and divisive." Thus, the strategy of the political ploy.
Indigo "
Here is a video of a black man, telling those who looted and stole and burned in Ferguson. MO., that it is those black people doing that who need to change, while letting the investigation proceed."
Now of course a black man like that would be labeled an Uncle Tom or sellout for daring to be a clear minded rational thinking person. The mob rule mental will always be the opposite of that.
I posted a video several years ago about the LA riots. The geniuses who burned down South Central brunt down several black owned businesses. If the racial mob truly cares about what happened to Michael Brown, they would stop acting like fools and let the process run it's course, but I doubt they will, because now it's all about them not Michael.
p allen "
Damn Tyrone, you are so predictable. So the word from the top has come down now? I watched FOX News's coverage of the Ferguson shooting, and you seem to be right on cue. "
Predictable? funny, you are one too talk allen, for real. I hate to burst your bubble but I haven't watched Fox News in over a week. Here's a crazy hunch allen, could it be that people can come to the same conclusion on their own. Oh wait I forget, liberals are big on group think, so they just assume that people on the right are subscribers to it as well. Everything I've said has been proven right. Question number 1. Why is this story a national story allen? I asked this same question during the Travyon Martin circus. The media, the media, the media. Tell me, how many stories that have had the same level of national coverage as Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown but with the shooter being black and the victim being black? Please post them.
p allen "The right wing spin is intended to "deflect from the issue at hand, and blame the victim."
So would that mean that the left wing spin is to deflect from the issue at hand and blame the cop? Oh wait, that has already has happened. Either way is wrong. The investigation has just begun.
p allen "Very smart on their part, yet very harmful and detrimental for the citizens."
Blacks have been whipped up into a racial frenzy yet again by the left allen not the right.
1. The left in the national media added fuel to this story by making it national for the racial element.
2. The left are issuing death treats to the officer, and they don't even know who the hell he is yet.
3. The left are the ones looting stores in Fergurson
4. The left are burning down business and acting unruly in Fergurson.
If people on the right are doing any of what I just mentioned, please bring it to my attention allen. Most people on the right are far more concerned about what is going on with ISIS in Iraq then they do this.
p allen "I've said it many times before, what does blacks killing blacks have to do with "cops killing blacks?" Absolutely nothing. But this is not a rallying cry to do something about black on black crime. This right-wing narrative and talking point, has a design.
It's called facts allen. Here's a pop quiz for you allen, it's simple and straightforward , no spin. Based on statistics and raw numbers, is a black person more likely to be killed by
A) a white police officer
B) a young black male
C) A right winger/ tea party person
p allen "I have never been one of those whacked out crazed conspiracy theorist. However, this right-wing tactic is as plain as day. While people are blacks are dying at the hands of themselves and law enforcement, right wing politicians and pundits are playing politics. Deep down the politicians know that shooting an unarmed "civilian" black, white, brown or yellow is wrong. (well, at least the sane ones know its wrong...)."
Black thugs are doing the work the KKK only wishes it could do. How many blacks in 2013 died at hands of law enforcement as opposed to blacks who died at the hands of other blacks in the same year allen? Would you say the ratio is 200 to 1 or higher black on black?
p allen " While people are blacks are dying at the hands of themselves and law enforcement, right wing politicians and pundits are playing politics"
Interesting you would say that allen. Playing politics ah? Who injected the "stand your ground" talk in the Zimmerman cause even though Zimmerman's defense was NOT on stand your ground? Didn't Democrat politicians wear hoodies during the TM circus Playing Politics?
p allen "For political purposes, the message is sent that; "no one cares when they kill each other, so we (conservatives) shouldn't care when police kill them."
It's the hypocrisy of liberals all that you are missing. They are the ones with selective outrage in regards to at how hands a black person is killed. You seem to be be forgetting that. Conservatives are simply pointing that out. Conservatives have been talked about a needs for an internal social renew within the black community, but black liberals despise that.
P allen" Well, many white conservatives really don't care either way. "
Well then they have the same thing in common with black liberals, because they can care less either, and they live in those communities.
p allen"But black conservatives have to follow suit so that they don't upset the white conservative."
Oh really allen? Tell me more. Who exactly am I trying not to upset. Please give some names. Of course being a member of the vast right wing conspiracy has it's perks and all but I don't think I have to worry much from the right on what I say. Again, can you say the same?
p allen "The last thing a black conservative wants is to be called a racist."
How does a black conservative gets called a racist? Can it be said that the last time a black liberal wants to be called is an uncle tom? Remember when Juan Williams who is an uber liberal defended Rush Limbaugh as not being a racist allen during his bid to by the Saint Louis Rams? Juan was told by fellow black liberal Warren Balentine to GET BACK ON THE PORCH I guess black liberals have to follow the progressive line to the letter allen or else?
CB;"So would that mean that the left wing spin is to deflect from the issue at hand and blame the cop? Oh wait, that has already has happened. Either way is wrong. The investigation has just begun".
In case you haven't noticed, "THE MEDIA" wasn't the first ones to blame the cops. Guess who was first to blame the cops? Take a guess. I'm asking just to see if you're so blinded by the politics of being a "conservative" (instead of a human being), that you're numb to what's really happening in Ferguson.
CB;"Well then they have the same thing in common with black liberals, because they can care less either, and they live in those communities".
Tyrone, that response is a non sequitur. I was talking in terms of how "conservatives" make a false comparison in order to deflect from the issue at hand FOR POLITICAL REASONS.
CB;"Based on statistics and raw numbers, is a black person more likely to be killed by".
That question/assertion is exactly what I'm trying to point out as being a "disingenuous." Tyrone, a police officer shooting and killing an unarmed man, does not equate to a criminal who kills! Criminals do what criminals do...right? Police are supposed to do what POLICE DO, not what criminals do! There is a difference, there's no equating, there's no similarities. They are completely different.
However, when you equate the two, you automatically remove "ALL" and any idea of presumptions of innocence for the accused. You're removing "ALL" ideas of basic jurisprudence and rights of the accused. By equating the two, you effectively condemn the accused and the "police", as both succumbing to criminality. It's not the police's job to act in a criminal way. That's what "CRIMINALS DO!" Conversely, an unarmed man, not committing a criminal act (as was noted by the police themselves) cannot be automatically accused, tried, judged and sentenced by the police.
Perhaps an hypothetical example will suffice....
Let's say that when you get angry, you beat your wife. It's wrong to beat your wife...right? So, since you beat your wife, one day I see your wife and realize I'm angry, so I decide to beat your wife also! Then when asked, "why did you beat his wife?" Should my response be; "why should you care, because he beats his wife! And when he does it NO ONE CARES!"
So now you say, "okay, you're right, it's okay to beat his wife since he does it." The argument makes NO SENSE!
p allen "
In case you haven't noticed, "THE MEDIA" wasn't the first ones to blame the cops. Guess who was first to blame the cops? Take a guess. I'm asking just to see if you're so blinded by the politics of being a "conservative" (instead of a human being), that you're numb to what's really happening in Ferguson."
Pay attention allen, good grief. I said that the media focused on this story and made it national due to the race of the cop being white and the race of the victim being black. The media is racially obsessed, and it shows in how and what stories they report. When did I said that the media blamed the cops? I thought for sure I said that the media made this a national story due to the race of Brown and the cop being white. Again, pay attention. I said the media tared Zimmerman as being a white racist even though he was Hispanic. As for this case, I am not obsessed over it like many blacks are, so I don't care who was the first to blame the cops.
p allen "
Tyrone, that response is a non sequitur. I was talking in terms of how "conservatives" make a false comparison in order to deflect from the issue at hand FOR POLITICAL REASONS."
The epidemic of black on black murders is not politic, it's mostly gang and drug related. The bullets that kill blacks aren't democrat, republican nor independent. There is nothing political about that. When black and some white liberals try to point to the right as being the problem for blacks, it's SO DISINGENUOUS. How many blacks have the Tea Party killed since it conception in 2009? Where is the connection between black heroine and crack addiction drug addiction and conservatives? You say politics? Like I said, liberal politicians don't want to address the internal problems for which they created in the black community, it's far easier to try and make the right somehow in some whacked out way the real problem which only absolute dopes would buy into.
p allen "That question/assertion is exactly what I'm trying to point out as being a "disingenuous." Tyrone, a police officer shooting and killing an unarmed man, does not equate to a criminal who kills!"
So the warped logic is that it's bad if a white cop kills an unarmed black man, but it's acceptable or should I say common place for a black person to kill another black person who is unarmed? So it goes right back to my title. A black person's death only has value if the shooter is white. So if I want blacks to rally in my name all I have to do is get shot by a white police officer and be unarmed right allen?
p allen "Criminals do what criminals do...right? Police are supposed to do what POLICE DO, not what criminals do! There is a difference, there's no equating, there's no similarities."
Wrong, all criminals are not murderers though. Nice attempt though. Non violent criminals and white collar criminals aren't violent. On the flip side, all police officers aren't bound to serve and protect. There are some who are corrupt just as there are some who get a power trip by wearing the badge.
p allen "
However, when you equate the two, you automatically remove "ALL" and any idea of presumptions of innocence for the accused. You're removing "ALL" ideas of basic jurisprudence and rights of the accused. By equating the two, you effectively condemn the accused and the "police", as both succumbing to criminality. It's not the police's job to act in a criminal way. "
Unless you believe in innocent until proven guilt, then you would have to admit that the cop in question didn't act criminally until the facts are known as he is being judged by the jury of his peers correct? The lynch mob doesn't care about that. If I tell the militant progressive black mob that we all need to wait until the facts come out, you now full well what will happen. Oh by the way, the video of the robbery in question came out with the person looking like and wearing the same cloths Michael Brown was wearing, when he got shot. One of my favorite talk show hosts here in Baltimore Tom Marr said that the video has no barrings on what happened between Brown and the officer. So much for your assertion that all conservatives had to have immediately found Brown guilty without the facts being known.
p allen "
Let's say that when you get angry, you beat your wife. It's wrong to beat your wife...right? So, since you beat your wife, one day I see your wife and realize I'm angry, so I decide to beat your wife also! Then when asked, "why did you beat his wife?" Should my response be; "why should you care, because he beats his wife! And when he does it NO ONE CARES!"
So now you say, "okay, you're right, it's okay to beat his wife since he does it." The argument makes NO SENSE! "
Your attempt at reasoning sucks the big one allen. The direct answer is clear "IF YOU VALUE WOMEN, IT'S NEVER OK TO HIT A WOMAN PERIOD". So in the case of an innocent unarmed black person being gunned down, that black life is just as important regardless of the shooter and should be treated as such, which is what I have have been saying. There is no grey area in this. Question, do you think more cops have been killed by black suspects as opposed to the other way around?
ACM said "The epidemic of black on black murders is not politic, it's mostly gang and drug related. The bullets that kill blacks aren't democrat, republican nor independent. There is nothing political about that. When black and some white liberals try to point to the right as being the problem for blacks, it's SO DISINGENUOUS. How many blacks have the Tea Party killed since it conception in 2009? Where is the connection between black heroine and crack addiction drug addiction and conservatives? You say politics? Like I said, liberal politicians don't want to address the internal problems for which they created in the black community, it's far easier to try and make the right somehow in some whacked out way the real problem which only absolute dopes would buy into."
Tyrone, that is a brilliant overview.
Indigo ": “Unarmed doesn’t mean doing no harm. A man can rape and assault a woman without being armed. A man can overpower an armed policeman and injure or kill him"
Exactly right, don't tell the mob that fact though Indigo. The racial mobs are one dimensional thinkers at best. There has been many stories of suspects who were unarmed yet ended up overpowering police officers and killing them with their own service revolvers. We have to of course wait to see if that was what almost happened in Fergurson.
Indigo "When a police officer or a white person kills an “unarmed black teen,” it doesn’t automatically mean that the police officer or white person committed a hate crime."
The left has bastardized what a true "hate crime" is. With the Travyon Martin incident, the left and black racial agigators tried their best to make the whole incident appear that Martin's death due to Zimmerman being "a racist white guy with a power trip". That wasn't the case. In the case of Michael Brown. They all can march and shout until the heart's content, but until they can prove a "racial motive" it isn't a racial incident, that goes for the same for the death of Mr. Garner in New York.
Indigo "Also ABC News just showed a video of “college bound” Brown robbing a store and pushing the manager back as Brown goes out the door with the items, 15 minutes before he was shot and killed."
I saw the video on CNN, that's all they were playing. I'm surprised that CNN would play it. I would have expected them to sit on it, because it doe put Michael Brown in a negative light. Before the video was released, the narrative behind Brown was that he was a "gentle giant" who was just minding his own business. Well clearly that wasn't the case at all. Gentle giants don't shove store clerks nor steal their cigars. Still not sure what happened with altercation with the cop, but Mr Brown clearly wasn't the peace loving soulhis fake supporters made him out to be.
This comment was copied from the internet: "Every year thousands and thousands of blacks kill and butcher other black people. Every year thousands and thousands of children are born to single women and raised on welfare never knowing who their fathers are. Billions and billions of middle class tax money being spent helping out the "urban community" and NOTHING gets any better. It only gets worse. Hundreds of cities in America where it is not safe to walk down the street. Urban battlegrounds filled with crime, gangs and death. When a Micheal Brown event takes place all the community leaders are out in droves moaning and groaning about oppression and racism. When the fires have burned out and the stores have been boarded up Al and Jesse will be in front of the television cameras ASKING FOR MORE MONEY. They love their suffering. Why is that."
Ferguson Looting (cartoon) – Sign outside business with windows all broken; “It's The Michael Brown Shooting Protest 100% Off Sale Everything Must Go”
At: http://nypost.com/2014/08/14/pregnant-woman-sucker-punched-in-knockout-game-attack/ is this report: "A pregnant woman was sucker-punched in the back of the head Thursday afternoon — and may be the latest victim of the creepy “knockout game,” law enforcement sources said. Jannatul Ferdous, a 34-year-old Brooklyn resident who is six months pregnant, was walking down a sidewalk in Bedford-Stuyvesant alongside her sister when Willie Stephens, 33, allegedly sneaked up behind her and socked her in the head around 3:45 p.m. Thursday, sources said. Ferdous was knocked unconscious during the sudden attack, but neither she nor her child was critically injured."
From the name & photo it appears the pregnant woman is Asain. But at 3 websites no mention of the race of 33 year old "Willie." If the woman had been BLACK and if the moronic - vicious - cruel - knockoutNONgame - attempted murderer of woman and unborn child had been WHITE, would the media have ignored THAT??
CB;"Wrong, all criminals are not murderers though. Nice attempt though. Non violent criminals and white collar criminals aren't violent".
Tyrone, you know damn well what I'm saying, and your's is an extremely WEAK attempt!
Police who kill indiscriminately are acting "criminally!" That has nothing to do with white collar criminals or non violent criminality. Answer this; when was the last time you heard of an "unarmed white collar criminal" being gunned down in the street by police?
Tyrone, I've noticed something even more telling in this conversation. When speaking of the "police", I've noticed that you often infer that the race of the police officers in question are "White." Whereas I'm pointing out that it's unacceptable for a POLICE OFFICER OF ANY RACE to kill an unarmed citizen. Police officers are trained and PAID to do the job of policing. In America, as an officer of the law, you as an officer cannot, or will not handle or subdue an unarmed citizen without "KILLING" him or her, you should NOT be a police officer!
CB;"Unless you believe in innocent until proven guilt, then you would have to admit that the cop in question didn't act criminally until the facts are known as he is being judged by the jury of his peers correct? ".
Of course! Absolutely the officer deserves the presumption of innocence. Even the boy he gunned down in the street deserves that. However, you're negating the facts as we know them. Brown was at the time an "UNARMED CITIZEN."
Frankly, I really don't know why you can't understand its wrong for police to kill unarmed citizens.
Look Tyrone, a recently released surveillance tape shows a robbery suspect that appears to be Michael Brown. If it is him, that show that Brown definitely wasn't an angel. Frankly, the store owner could have shot him and I guarantee you that surveillance tape would have exonerated the shooter and shown the shooting to be justified. However, in my opinion, if Brown did rob the store, it has absolutely nothing to do with him being gunned down by a police officer, APPARENTLY, because the officer believes the unarmed person is a threat.
Skip Gates (black) altercation with the Cambridge Police Officer(white) became a national story which led to the white house "beer summit".
Eric Garner's death (black) during the altercation with the NYPD officers and mainly the one who choked him (white) made national news and sparked the racial tension
Trayvon Martin (black) who was shot by George Zimmerman (Hispanic but passed off as white or "white Hispanic" by the media, the incident went national and caused racial tension
Am I making any of this stuff up allen? It should be obvious what all of the incident I've mentioned and now including the death of Michael Brown all have in common. All the variables are the same.
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p allen "Whereas I'm pointing out that it's unacceptable for a POLICE OFFICER OF ANY RACE to kill an unarmed citizen."
In certain situations a cop has no choice but to kill an unarmed person. Have you ever heard to term "suicide by cop".
A suspect wants to die so he or she brandishes a fake gun and points it at the officer. Since the gun is fake, that suspected is UNARMED right?
So if the cop shoots the suspect thinking the gun was real, didn't he or she just shoot an "UNARMED" person? The unarmed argument is not cut and dry as you and others want to make it allen. It's just not.
p allen "Police officers are trained and PAID to do the job of policing."
And sometimes that training can lapse or take a backseat when confronted with a life or death situation. Emotion and adrenaline can easily override text book procedure. Being a cop is a thankless job as well as being a dangerous one.
p allen" In America, as an officer of the law, you as an officer cannot, or will not handle or subdue an unarmed citizen without "KILLING" him or her, you should NOT be a police officer!"
That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard you say in years allen. Put the jug down allen! That happy sauce is messing with your brain big time. Cops don't set out to kill unarmed people. Do you think they wake up and say, oh let me see what unarmed person I can kill today? When people feel the need to buck bad with a cop, that is mistake number one. When they act suspicious in a cop's presence, that's mistake number two. If the suspect tries to go for the officer's gun or makes a perceived threatening motion towards the cop, that's mistake number three.If the investigation shows that Michael Brown was trying to reach for the officer's gun, then he was justified in the shooting, because that would have been a life or death situation
p allen "Tyrone, I've noticed something even more telling in this conversation. When speaking of the "police", I've noticed that you often infer that the race of the police officers in question are "White." "
You're observant. I do so, because progressives and the black racial greivance crowd mentions it. It goes all the way back to the beating of Rodney King up until this day. As I stated many times, stories like this would never see the light of day nor receive the fraction of fake outrage if the officers in question were black instead of being white.Again. when the variables are changed, the end result in the equation is completely different. The historic stats are on my side allen.
p allen "Look Tyrone, a recently released surveillance tape shows a robbery suspect that appears to be Michael Brown. If it is him, that show that Brown definitely wasn't an angel."
What?! So you are breaking ranks with the rob who up until that video released tried to paint Brown as a "gentle giant"? You are exhibiting at least sliver of hope allen. I'm almost impressed.
p allen "Frankly, the store owner could have shot him and I guarantee you that surveillance tape would have exonerated the shooter and shown the shooting to be justified. However, in my opinion, if Brown did rob the store, it has absolutely nothing to do with him being gunned down by a police officer, APPARENTLY, because the officer believes the unarmed person is a threat."
I agree to a point. The narrative the mob presented was that Brown was a "gentle giant" who was simply walking with his friend minding his business until this racist (becacuse he's white) cop just came out of nowhere for no apparent reason and started picking on Brown. Well now we know that wasn't the case at all. (Waiting for the facts was a good thing). Apparently Brown robbed the store for some cigars and manhandled the clerk. Again, he is innocent until proven guilt BUT with the video showing him acting psychically aggressive towards the store clerk it doe present the possibility that he could have been psychical with the officer as well. Most of the support for Brown were from people who thought he was just an innocent soul, well know a certain percentage is going to start to shy away from him because of that video showing that he wasn't. Brown's mother and some said that the release of the video was an attempt at
"character assignation" of Michael, but the definition of character assignation is "the malicious and unjustified harming of a person's good reputation".
When he decided to rob that convenience store, he ruined his own reputation right there. The Fergurson police didn't hire a look a like to portray Brown nor did they film the video.As for the confrontation and struggle, that is what matters.
p allen " Of course! Absolutely the officer deserves the presumption of innocence. Even the boy he gunned down in the street deserves that. However, you're negating the facts as we know them. Brown was at the time an "UNARMED CITIZEN."
If you are in a struggle with someone and you have a gun but the other person was "unarmed" and that person is trying to reach for "your" gun, are you going to
A)Throw it away so that he can't reach it.
B)Try to unload the gun while struggling with the other person
C) Use it on the person, because you know that if he gets your gun he's going to use it on you.
Take your pick. If I was in the officer's situation, I would have shot him too if I knew he was reaching for my gun.
Yawn! Heard it and seen it before. ACM you hit the nail right on the head. The value of a black man is determined only when he is murdered by the hands of a white male police officer. Those derelics who are taking to the streets while staging their carefully scripted outrage regarding the death of a neighborhood thug are simply using this tragedy as a means to engage openly in criminal activity. The nation is once again obtaining a bird's eye view of the 50 year spawn of failed Democrat policies concerning the disintegrating black family. How sad to see what this country has succomb to under the leadership of an egomaniac whose specialty is duping wealthy white liberals into investing the bulk of their income into advancing his status.
The mainstream media – NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC – are MAGNIFYING when a white kills a black, a la Trayvon Martin, Eric Garner, and Michael Brown; But IGNORING (not reporting) when a black kills a white or when blacks kill blacks in massive numbers. The reasons main media is doing this selective, conscious, trained lapdog magnifying and ignoring, is because:
1. Media people are placating their liberal democrat network bosses, and also the liberal democrat agenda of the commercial sponsors of those networks ($$$ money extortion).
2. The journalists, college journalism schools, reporters, editors, and news anchors are all in cahoots as unwilling to face backlash from the “politically correct” crowd's pickets, boycotts, smears and death threats if they were to tell the simple truth about black criminals.
3. The big hidden “Frankenstein” reason is this: The democrat / neo-liberal / politically correct / progressive policies, laws, and mentality of the past 50 years is what CAUSED this this Frankenstein monster that we have seen in the aftermath of the Michael Brown shooting death. Black poverty was a problem in the 1950's and 60's, but it was not this defiant, in yo' face dysfunctions we see in such blacks today. Honest “shoe leather” journalism and investigative reporting would quickly dig down to the root problem. The root problem of todays black pathologies was in replacing a legal working father at home who trains his children – Replacing that with government welfare supported out of wedlock children, single parent households, plus moral degeneration (drugs) of schools and society in general. They learned that life sustenance would be mailed to them at the 1st of the month (impersonal, no social graces required). Thus not only have these black children failed to become well-adjusted adults, but they are delinquent pathological black children in adult bodies, fostered largely by white liberals.
CB;"A suspect wants to die so he or she brandishes a fake gun and points it at the officer. Since the gun is fake, that suspected is UNARMED right?".
Wha...? Ahhh.. huh?? Umm, wha, duh, hmmmmm? Are you kidding me Tyrone? So I guess if a robber sticks up a store with a FAKE GUN, it's not armed robbery?
If a tree falls in the woods, and nobody is around to hear it, does it make a sound? If you think you're free, is it possible to escape? If nothing that you do matters, then all that matters is what you do! I can quote dozens of nonsense idioms such as your "fake gun unarmed suicide" stupid scenario. Get real dude...
CB;"If you are in a struggle with someone and you have a gun but the other person was "unarmed" and that person is trying to reach for "your" gun, are you going to".
But what if the officer isn't telling the truth? The witnesses could be lying also. What if the officer simply "thought" Brown was going for his gun? What if Brown was being compliant and the officer just lost it and decided to kill him? I can give you thousands of "what ifs." But only those who were there when the shooting occurred knows exactly what happened.
CB;"If I was in the officer's situation, I would have shot him too if I knew he was reaching for my gun".
Really? So, not being on the scene during the shooting, you would in fact believe the officer's account and support his actions. If this incident goes to trail, fortunately the attorney's wont be calling "YOU!"
Speaking of being "fortunate", a few months ago a 63 year old Kalamazoo man carrying a long rifle stood on a street corner cursing at passersby while taunting police. Watch at about 4:40 mark as the man grabs his crotch and taunts the police. Although he never levels the gun toward them, the FACT is, he is VISIBLY AND CLEARLY "ARMED!" Yet he was not shot?
CB;"Am I making any of this stuff up allen? It should be obvious what all of the incident I've mentioned and now including the death of Michael Brown all have in common. All the variables are the same".
No you're not making it up. You're "EMBELLISHING."
Look Tyrone, the media does what the media does! In the 2000's we now have more bias reporting than at any other time in American history. We now have You Tube, Twitter, Instagram, etc... and "bias Cable News" outlets (left and right) pushing a political agenda. You do remember the Cliven Bundy ranch standoff incident a few months ago, don't you? Right wing (and the left) radio and TV vociferously descended on the small Nevada town. However, there was an extreme fanatical right-wing show of support for Bundy (armed Militia and Sean Hannity).... until he started talking about "the Negro."
So don't attempt to tell me that you don't have a political (or racial) agenda by repeatedly claiming blacks are only upset when white officers shoot and kill blacks. That's pure bullcrap! Hell, YOU wouldn't be writing about it if it weren't for what your conservative buddies call, "progressives and the black racial grievance crowd."
There were large protests (and Al Sharpton) in NY after "UNARMED" Sean Bell was killed by police. Two of the officers involved were BLACK. Here in Detroit back in 2000more than 500 people protested police officer Eugene Brown's shootings of 9 people, killing three, over a five year period. The officer in question, Eugene Brown, is Black.
Contrasting the Sean Bell shooting and the police shooting in Detroit goes to show you that some incidents are covered more than others. In 2012, Al Sharpton held a rally to protest the police killing a homeless man in Saginaw, MI. The protest was basically ignored by the national media.
All news media wants to keep you watching, listening or reading. It's their nature, and bringing the stories of public interest is what keeps you watching, and is what pays their bills! As they say in the News business, "They don't make the News, they just report it!"
Now I want you to contrast police actions with two apparently mentally challenged individuals in standoffs with police. One black, one white.
HERE is Joseph Houseman the 63 year old WHITE gentlemen who stood off with police for 40 minutes while holding a rifle. Houseman, who was visibly agitated, and taunted police the entire time he stood on a busy street corner brandishing the rifle. I should note that Houseman never pointed the rifle at the officers. After 40 minutes he gave up and allowed the police to arrest him. His gun was taken, but given back to him the "following day."
HERE is Milton Hall, a 49 year old Black man who stood off with police for 7 minutes while holding a "KNIFE" on a busy city street. However, In the video take note that Hall appears to be walking away from the officers when 46 shots ring out killing him there on the street.
Take your time and contrast and compare. I'd like to read how you "spin" these incidents . Although I do expect that you'll show the black victim no mercy being that he was a member of the "progressive black grievance" crowd.
This aftermath of the Michael Brown shooting death is a quake of seismic consequences in the USA. It's like third world countries with buildings trashed and rock throwing with no law enforcement. Police, paid for by government tax dollars, are supposed “To Protect And To Serve.” While looters in Ferguson, MO were breaking and entering, stealing everything in sight, and burning down, there were police STANDING AND WATCHING AND DOING NOTHING! So now the taxpayers money, government leaders, and police, were facilitating the thuggery. Add to that, instead of using the armored vests, military tanks, tactical rifles, rubber bullets and tear gas, those things were removed! They were in “stand down” mode so the criminals could devastate owners' businesses, instead of “Protect” those owners' businesses like they were hired to do. Add to that, after the “military presence” was removed, idiot people were like, “There, there, now, that's more peaceful.” Overtly and covertly they are supporting dysfunctional lying, stealing mayhem of criminals. Add to that, insurance rates in those neighborhoods of poverty will go up or be canceled. After rioters and looters get their way once, the second and third time they will feel ENTITLED to be mollycoddled, and will be worse the next time around. Someone may say, police backed down to prevent killing people and arresting people and then causing more riots in Chicago, LA, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Newark and other powderkeg cities. If so, then who is in control? We become a country run by thugs using Twitter or Facebook. It is better to take charge over dysfunctional criminals now even if 1000 die, then to wait ten years when it is worse and 100,000 die. I'm serious. America is cruising for a bruising. This all shows that the lying and the lunacy of liberals is destructive, and ultimately, deadly.
Wow, that Kalamazoo story says the guy had the right to open carry that gun.
Re: autopsy report @ 6 shots to Brown, 4 to right arm, 2 to head, and all 6 shots to front of Brown's body / This comment (sic) copied from internet (& amended):
" Looks like the private autopsy (was not what) the parents wanted , backs up what the Police Officer said along with two other Witnesses said , that " Brown struggled with the officer , a shot was fired , brown backed away a few feet , then brown RUSHED the Officer and the officer Fired , brown did NOT stop , so the officer used Center Mass and then Dead shot force , Legal under the law when an officer is in danger " . And the two other witnesses statement are in line with the Officers statement . and ALL Shots were fired at a Charging brown in the front of his body ! . So his Strong Armed Buddy was the First to talk to the media and also the one that said " He [ brown ] had his hands up and was shot in the back " All LIES !! He should be arrested for starting the riots ! with His LIES !! "
Anon;"Wow, that Kalamazoo story says the guy had the right to open carry that gun".
Yes, open carry is legal in Michigan. And apparently open carry of a fire arm while taunting the police is legal. Open carry of a firearm while flipping them the bird, grabbing your crotch, disobeying an officers direct request to put down your firearm, and yelling obscenities at the police is legal also!
But if you take a look at the other video I linked to, you'll find that in Michigan, yelling obscenities and disobeying an officers request while holding a "KNIFE"... that is not legal. In fact it's cause for deadly force.
Moral of this story is... never bring a knife to a gunfight.
Anon;"Wow, that Kalamazoo story says the guy had the right to open carry that gun".
Yes, open carry is legal in Michigan. And apparently open carry of a fire arm while taunting the police is legal. Open carry of a firearm while flipping them the bird, grabbing your crotch, disobeying an officers direct request to put down your firearm, and yelling obscenities at the police is legal also!
But if you take a look at the other video I linked to, you'll find that in Michigan, yelling obscenities and disobeying an officers request while holding a "KNIFE"... that is not legal. In fact it's cause for deadly force.
Moral of this story is... never bring a knife to a gunfight.
Here is an interview between Andrea Tantoros and Jesse Jackson.
Near the end of the interview, she asked him why he does not show much concern with blacks killing other black, namely in Chicago. He was really caught off guard and could not answer the question, and stammers in his response.
http://youtu.be/pNQX07SLaLQ
Indigo;" So his Strong Armed Buddy was the First to talk to the media and also the one that said " He [ brown ] had his hands up and was shot in the back " All LIES !! He should be arrested for starting the riots ! with His LIES !! "".
Pure bias and political posturing! There's no way anyone who was not there, and did not see the incident can positively say what happened.
Listen to what eyewitness Tiffany Mitchell says.. She says that she saw Brown on the outside of the police vehicle struggling with the officer who was still in the police vehicle. She says she heard a gunshot, and Brown took off running. She then says that the officer exits the vehicle and begins to chase Brown while firing at him.
Her next statement has become a point of "misinterpretation" and, basically categorical LIES! Ms. Mitchell clearly states, “The officer gets out of his vehicle, and he pursues him, continuing to shoot. “Michael’s body jerks - AS IF HE WAS HIT.” Mitchell did not say that Brown was shot in the back. She clearly says "as if he was hit."
The young man, Dorian Johnson, that was with Brown did say that Brown was shot in the back. However, you have to take into account that Johnson saw Brown running away from the officer, while the officer was firing his weapon. Its completely conceivable that if you were to see someone running away (back turned) and being shot at, and then that person winds up lying dead in the street, you too would believe that they had been shot in the back. Yet, Johnson also says that Brown turned around with his hands in the air and the officer continued to shoot. So Indigo, you're not giving a complete account of his statement! (which is typical...)
Still the facts remains that only those that "SAW" the incident with their our eyes really knows what happened. Are the witnesses that came forward lying? Only they themselves know. Is the officer lying. Only he knows. But as I've said, everyone, on the right and left, will attempt to spin whats being said by witnesses, the police, the protesters, and the media. Facts don't matter any more... its all about politics.
Indigo;"In addition to death threats, New Black Panthers & other radical groups were in on the protest".
The New Black Panthers will attempt to inject themselves into situation like this to gain support for themselves. Basically, they're self serving idiots. Moreover, the surviving members of the original Panther Party has denounced the new group.
But hey, the New Black Panthers aren't the only racist group attempting to profit on this situation. Reports are that the KKK is raising money for officer Wilson.
p allen "But hey, the New Black Panthers aren't the only racist group attempting to profit on this situation. Reports are that the KKK is raising money for officer Wilson."
And who do you think drew the klan to Furgerson in allen?Trash attracts roaches. So Furgerson has become on big racial freak show. Person I hope the New Black Panthers and the Klan get into and kill each other off. It'll be good for society and good entertainment.
p allen "The New Black Panthers will attempt to inject themselves into situation like this to gain support for themselves. Basically, they're self serving idiots. Moreover, the surviving members of the original Panther Party has denounced the new group."
Good for you allen. Nice to see you embrace the obvious. So we both agree that the New Black Panthers are serving no positive role in Furgerson just like all the rest of the agitators?
p allen "Still the facts remains that only those that "SAW" the incident with their our eyes really knows what happened. Are the witnesses that came forward lying?"
Didn't some of these supposed eye witnesses say that Brown was "shot in the back". Well two autospys have been down, one by the Coroners office and one by the Brown family and both show that wasn't the case, they were all frontal wounds. The words of witnesses really do not mean nothing until they are investigated. When witnesses know they can go to jail for lying it's amazing how the truth comes out of what they really saw or didn't see.
Indigo "Al Sharpton spoke Sunday (8-17-14) in St. Louis at a worship service there. He did not / does not / cannot, teach Jesus Christ. He used demogoguery to try to stir up the crowd that Michael Brown's death is about blacks being wronged (by whites) for being black."
Shaprton is NOT a Reverend. This guy is 14k FRAUD!!!Nobody can find any clips of him actually preaching a Christian sermon. There is no history of him every going to any divinity school! He self annotate himself as a Reverend, but he's anything but one. He is nothing but an inflammatory racial agitator. What church in their right mind would even want to associate with such filth? As for Jesse, it was nice to see some in the crowd boo him for trying to ask for money.
p allen "p allen "Look Tyrone, the media does what the media does! "
BS excuse allen. The media does what it does, because they are activists not journalists. I have the media pegged perfectly for who they are and what they have done and been doing for a long time now. I can easily present stories of a black cop who shot a white suspect who was "unarmed" and the national media did nothing in reporting it. This proves my point as to what I said the media's variables in reporting as it pertains to race. The media is the biggest racial flame throwers of them all way bigger bigger then Sharpton and Jackson and then some.
p allen "In the 2000's we now have more bias reporting than at any other time in American history. We now have You Tube, Twitter, Instagram, etc... and "bias Cable News" outlets (left and right) pushing a political agenda."
The only conservative bias cable channel on the right is Newsmaxtv. Fox News reports the news that CNN and MSNBC choses to ignore. Also Fox News has more liberal political commentators then MSNBC and CNN have conservatives ones combined, but anyways.
p allen "You do remember the Cliven Bundy ranch standoff incident a few months ago, don't you? Right wing (and the left) radio and TV vociferously descended on the small Nevada town. However, there was an extreme fanatical right-wing show of support for Bundy (armed Militia and Sean Hannity).... until he started talking about "the Negro."
That's your problem allen, you don't know the difference between journalist and a political commentator. Sean Hannity is a political commentator and radio host. He's no a news anchor. He gets paid for his conservative bent, just like Juan Williams, Geraldo, Bob Beckel,Chritine Powers, Alan Colmes on Fox News gets paid for their liberal bent. At the end of the day, they are all commentators.
p allen "Wha...? Ahhh.. huh?? Umm, wha, duh, hmmmmm? Are you kidding me Tyrone? So I guess if a robber sticks up a store with a FAKE GUN, it's not armed robbery?"
Do I seriously have to treat you like Benny Hill use to smack his side kick allen? The definitons of armed
equipped with or carrying a weapon or weapons
furnished with weapons
furnished with something that provides security, strength, or efficacy
A fake gun is no security nor a weapon thus the person holding a fake gun IS NOT ARMED!! If I put my finger in my coat and stick it forward in a bank, the teller is going to "think" I am armed but I am not.If did that in front of a cop, my ass would be shot, because a cop would have not way of knoing whether that point is the barrel of a gun or not. If I whip out a black water gun and aim it at a cop, am I armed allen? Wha...? Ahhh.. huh?? Umm, wha, duh, hmmmmm?
For the record, I have heard in the past the Rev. Jackson bring up that you tend to have "black on black crime" being a lot worse than "black on white". He is merely stating a fact.
I'm not a fan of Rev. Jackson, I heard he was criticized for trying to fund raise recently but that said, he spoke eloquently in the interview I heard him in yesterday so it's not easy to judge.
He also spoke about a past "jobs bill" that was killed that would have provided jobs building railroads, etc. If anyone might know of what bill this is he was referring to, I'd be interested to know. Thanks in advance should someone see this note and provide an answer.
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CB;"A fake gun is no security nor a weapon thus the person holding a fake gun IS NOT ARMED!!".
Tyrone, you'll argue that snow is to cold to be rain...
If you have a lawyer good enough to get you off for unarmed robbery while using a fake gun, then more power to you. Stranger things have happened. However, by far, most people who rob with a fake gun have, and will be charged with armed robbery.
CB;"Didn't some of these supposed eye witnesses say that Brown was "shot in the back".
Didn't you read my prior post? Browns friend, Dorian Johnson, stated that he saw the officer "chasing" Brown while firing at him. If I saw someone chasing you while shooting at you, and seconds later you wind up laying on the ground, I would definitely believe that you were shot in the back. But Johnson also stated that Brown turned and put his hands up and the officer continued to shoot.
I have to keep reminding you that I don't know what really happened. I am only going on what those who said they were there. Being that Johnson was shown on video in the company of Brown, I can give a certain amount of credibility to the idea that he was with Brown when he was killed.
For years, every time I turn on my local news, for a 15-second spot, or breaking news, there would be reports about an “officer involved shooting”. In conclusion, the cop that did the shooting would be put on paid-administrative leave during the investigation. Never in these reports do I hear any mention about the race of the cop or the criminal. If the cop is white and the criminal white, fine; if the cop is black and the criminal black, fine; if the cop is black and the criminal white, fine; if the cop is any other minority who shoots the criminal of any other race, including white, fine. However, if the cop is white and the criminal is a minority, BIG NEWS!!!! The first question ever asked, “was race the factor?” Every time I hear that question, I just want to throw my remote control at the TV set.
Reports like these would drag on for days, maybe a couple of weeks, and the officer involved to many, the cop good name is tarnished and is automatically branded a murderer, a racist and being corrupt, while the criminal on the other hand that was shot, was and always has been a “saint”. But rarely do they discuss of what led up to the shooting and what was the criminal in question involved, what was his background. It’s not just white police officers who get this kind of treatment, even white prosecutors who have been assigned and try and convict black criminals have received similar treatments as well.
Are we gonna be having a big, national Trayvon Martin case every year now? And what is this about it being investigated by Eric Holder? Is the police officer perhaps gonna be "lynched" by the federal government?
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