Honor thy criminals
No this isn't a story from the Onion or some other satire site. I have tO sigh and claim it's real!
Why would anyone in their "right mind" ever want to memorialize a criminal you may be asking? Your guess is as good as mine. Well, our country has been morally and intellectually screwed up for the past 30 years. It seems like the country has been in an intellectual free fall for the past 10 years. For example, take Saint Michael Brown of Ferguson Missouri. People who dare to exercise their brain matter knew that Saint Michael was not a saint no victim, even though warped, racially deceptive and obsessed thinking people tried to portray him as such. This was the real Michael Brown that certain people chose to overlook.
Some people had the nerve to refer to Brown as a "Gentle Giant". Well that image didn't look like he was gently jacking up the owner of that convenience store. Well fast forwarding a few months after the Ferguson racial and media circus and the stores and businesses being looted and destroyed in the name of the gentle giant, the city of Ferguson has decided to do something that can only be described as "delusional and insane" in regards to Mike Brown.
The city is going to "memorialize him" with a plaque!!
The memorial is going to be placed near the site where he died charging at the now former Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson. I have no problem with the family of Michael Brown wanting to avoid dealing with the reality that Mike Brown's past. I just hope that tax dollars from the citizens of Ferguson weren't used in making that plaque. Thankfully the plaque will not be placed on city owned property at the site where Brown died. It will be placed on private property near where it happened. I have to wonder if Michael Brown was shot and killed by another black teen , would this "memorial" still exist in his name? Normally I've seen memorials created to pay respect or tribute to people who have done great deeds in their lives but nothing like this. So should the mayor of Ferguson help to take part in memorizing other criminals as well or should it only be for Mike Brown due to the way he died?
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 2:09 AM
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First off, without a video of the Mike Brown shooting NO ONE HERE will ever know what really happened in Ferguson on that day. The fact is that everyone will believe whatever they want to believe.
Now allow me to give my take on police shootings from the perspective of growing up in Detroit. In Detroit it's been a know "fact(or)" that if you ran from, bad mouthed, or in some cases, appear as though you might be a threat to police, a cop would shoot you. As a teenager I've had at least three separate encounters with Detroit or suburban police where their guns were drawn. In each case I posed no threat, nor had I committed or been suspected of committing a crime.
During the lat 1980's thru the 1990's Detroit had the highest per capita rate of police shootings. Granted, Detroit had been the murder and crime capital during that time. However, fears from the street crime and fears from being shot by police carried an equal level of concern by the average citizen.
I was a teenager during the late 60's and early 70's. I vividly remember "the talk" my parents gave me after I got my drivers license. As I thought back on it, I remember the one thing that stood out most during "the talk." My parents expressed their fears about drugs, alcohol, teenage sex and street crime. But what seemed even more fearful to them was how I should handle any encounters that I might have with police. The one thing that my father told me was that, even if you had done something you shouldn't have done, never...never, ever run from the police. In Detroit in the 1960's, running from police insured one of three outcomes. One, a beating, two, being shot and wounded, or three, being shot and killed.
My point is that police departments are being "reactive" to crime and the community, rather than being "proactive" within the community. Granted in many black communities there is crime and poverty. But that doesn't justify a police force acting as an occupying force, as opposed to acting as a partner within the black community.
Tyrone, as you know by now that I live in the state of Washington. I'm not sure if this news ever reached on your side of the country.
One Thursday evening in my hometown of Olympia, two black youths ages 21 and 23 who were stepbrothers shoplifted a case of bottled beer at a Safeway store. One of the employees went to confront the the thieves carrying the case and threw right at her. They got onto the skateboards and fled the scene. Olympia police were called in, and later down the road from the store, an officers recognized the suspects on the surveillance. According to the report, the officer went to approach them, and one of them attacked him with his skateboard and opened fired wounding him. The suspects fled into the woods. As he was following them, the other attacked him with his skateboard and he responded by shooting back. Both suspects survived and are recuperating in a hospital in Tacoma and Seattle.
Olympia is a progressive, liberal town. Home of hippies, stoners and Greeners (a term use to describe students who attend the Evergreen State College). It didn't take long for much of the community to organize a protest. In that protest the BLACK LIVES MATTER and HANDS UP, DON'T SHOOT were too in attendance. The protest was peaceful, thanks to one resident who is black told the crowd to try and not jump to conclusions until all the facts are gathered.
As always, the crowd was making excuses for these two youths and condemning the police. I had a debate with one person who suggested that the cop should not have shot "unarmed" youths. I ask him to put himself in the cops position and he said that he would never have open-fired. I don't know, someone coming right at me with a skateboard or any other blunt object that can be used to break my bones or cave in my skull, I will do what I can to defend myself, even if I have to shoot him. More excuses such as should have tase them, or use his billy club. First off, he was outnumbered 2-1, and second, good luck in trying to tase a person charging at you.
Like the Michael Brown case, these two youths should not have tried to steal a case of beer and assault a store employee, and should not have tried to attack a police officer. The only difference in the case is, both suspects survived. I'm hoping my hometown does not end up like Ferguson and Baltimore.
-BP
p allen "First off, without a video of the Mike Brown shooting NO ONE HERE will ever know what really happened in Ferguson on that day. The fact is that everyone will believe whatever they want to believ"
The black eye witnesses testified that Michael Brown charged Officer Wilson. No hands up don't shoot, caee closed. Unlike Michael Browns friend the black eye witnesses didn't know Michael Brown and they testified to what they saw.
p allen "
Now allow me to give my take on police shootings from the perspective of growing up in Detroit. In Detroit it's been a know "fact(or)" that if you ran from, bad mouthed, or in some cases, appear as though you might be a threat to police, a cop would shoot you"
Well based on that information alone. It would seem that the best thing for people in Detroit is to NOT "run from the police, bad mouth the police or approach or react to the Detroit police in a threatening manner. I grew up in Baltimore, and I've never had a problem with the police, go figure.
p allen "As a teenager I've had at least three separate encounters with Detroit or suburban police where their guns were drawn. In each case I posed no threat, nor had I committed or been suspected of committing a crime."
So the Detroit Police just pulled their guns on you for no apparent reason allen? You were just skipping home listening to the sounds of music, and the Detroit Police decided to pick on you?
p allen " The one thing that my father told me was that, even if you had done something you shouldn't have done, never...never, ever run from the police. In Detroit in the 1960's, running from police insured one of three outcomes. One, a beating, two, being shot and wounded, or three, being shot "
Your father was right, it's common sense. DON'T RUN FROM THE COPS!! If Rodney King wouldn't have lead the LAPD on that infamous chase, maybe he wouldn't have gotten that taped ass beating. What happened in Cleveland with the two unarmed motorists was wrong, but would the two people have been shot it they didn't lead the cops on a high spped chase. I'm not validating them being shot 137 times by no means, but the one thing that you never want to do is the Adrenalin of a cop flowing in a potential life or death situation.No good can come from running from the cops or trying to mouth off at the cops. Nobody likes to get a ticket but it's always best to just suck up your pride and deal with the officer in court.
p allen "My point is that police departments are being "reactive" to crime and the community, rather than being "proactive" within the community. Granted in many black communities there is crime and poverty. But that doesn't justify a police force acting as an occupying force, as opposed to acting as a partner within the black community. "
It should be the responsibility of black community leaders to be proactive in the communities. Sure police can help out a youth centers and such in the communities, but their primary role should not be changed or altered which is "lawn enforcement".
-BP "As always, the crowd was making excuses for these two youths and condemning the police."
Of course they are.Progressives tend to want to rebel and challenge authority. The cops are the authority. BP, I thought I had it bad living in the liberal hell suck known as Maryland but Washington State makes California almost look conservative, lol.
The skateboards could be considered a blunt object that could have hurt the officers. Of course the dopey protesters never condemned the black youths for trying to attack the police officer with blunt objects to begin with. If that officer was struck in the head and ended up brain dead or in a coma, would these dopey liberal be condemning the skater boards, we both know the answer to that.
-BP "I had a debate with one person who suggested that the cop should not have shot "unarmed" youths."
When they decided to use their skate boards as weapons was the moment they became officially armed". Of course that person would never comprehend that fact BP.
-BP "I ask him to put himself in the cops position and he said that he would never have open-fired."
Violent criminals would love that guy as a cop.lol A split second decision is all that separates a cop from being put in the ground vs coming home alive to his or her family. It's so easy for anti cop protesters to say what they wouldn't do, but it's irrelevant, because they do not have to deal with the scenarios cops have to deal with on a daily basis. There is no text book way to deal with a split second potential life or death situation, liberals think otherwise which goes against the grain of common sense.
-BP "I don't know, someone coming right at me with a skateboard or any other blunt object that can be used to break my bones or cave in my skull, I will do what I can to defend myself, even if I have to shoot him. More excuses such as should have tase them, or use his billy club. First off, he was outnumbered 2-1, and second, good luck in trying to tase a person charging at you. "
IF the officer teased them, the morons would have still complained. Besides firing a teaser I believe is only good for one discharge. In this case, there was 2 suspects. So lets say the officer successfully took down the first guy "non lethally", how would he take down the second who is using a blunt object as well? This is something the hippie maggots don't want to hear, If the two never decided to steal from the Safeway and confronted to cops using he skateboards as weapons, they wouldn't have been shot in the first place. As usual with progressives, personal responsibility is never mandatory for them. It's always someone else fault.
CB;"The black eye witnesses testified that Michael Brown charged Officer Wilson. No hands up don't shoot, caee closed. Unlike Michael Browns friend the black eye witnesses didn't know Michael Brown and they testified to what they saw".
There were other "Black" eyewitnesses, other than the friend, that testified Brown did have his hands up. So your "Black" eye witness is more credible than any other "Black" eyewitness? Question: Are "Black" eyewitnesses only credible when the "Black" eyewitness says what you want to believe? Another question... how did you develop this perspective on "Black" eyewitnesses?
CB;"So the Detroit Police just pulled their guns on you for no apparent reason allen? You were just skipping home listening to the sounds of music, and the Detroit Police decided to pick on you?".
There was a major riot in Detroit in 1967 (bear in mind this is America in 1967). At the time Detroit was a little over 35 percent Black, and the police department was 90 percent White.
After the riot, city officials and the police department created a special police unit called "Stop The Robbers Enjoy Safe Streets" aka, "STRESS." These units consisted of hard-nosed take no crap gung-ho officers. In most cases four officers would ride in an unmarked police vehicle. We referred to them as "The Big Four." To the best of my knowledge, all of the STRESS officers were white.
As I said, I was in my early teens in the late 1960's. It was routine for STRESS officers to have their guns drawn when ever they approached a group of young black boys. Whether we were coming from the baseball field or the local Boys Club, having police with drawn guns approach you was considered as "just the way it was."
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-24/mcdonalds-responds-minimum-wage-protests
Not sure if this is real, but if it is, uh-oh.
CB;"Your father was right, it's common sense. DON'T RUN FROM THE COPS!! If Rodney King wouldn't have lead the LAPD on that infamous chase, maybe he wouldn't have gotten that taped ass beating".
Its also said that you shouldn't run from a grizzly bear. But a grizzly bear is a wild animal acting on his adrenaline and instinct. If you run and he catches you, you'll surely feel his fierce wrath and it will kill you. Cops are trained (or should be trained) to control themselves in high pressure situations. When a community feels like the cops are acting like wild animals some people will fear them as such.
The couple that was killed in Cleveland (137 shots fired) were obviously afraid of something (possibly going to jail) so they made a bad choice and ran. Unfortunately they felt the fierce wrath of the grizzly when they were finally caught.
CB;"It should be the responsibility of black community leaders to be proactive in the communities".
Quite the contrary when it comes to policing. Police should be part of the leadership in black communities. The are paid with "TAX DOLLARS" from the communities they serve. The motto and inscription on police vehicles says; "To Protect And Serve." Not, "To Command and Occupy."
CB-"Honor Thy Criminal"
Today is Memorial Day, a day to mourn for our fallen soldiers and police officers. Unfortunately, fallen police officers hardly get any recognition. I don't know what it is about glorifying criminals, but people who do are just sick in the head.
My Post-"I ask him to put himself in the cops position and said that he would never open-fired."
Every time I hear that excuse, what is it about not wanting to defend yourself? I would bet that if he was in that cop's position that he would shoot to protect himself. Wouldn't that make a liar out of him or just a hypocrite? Even if this person wasn't a cop, if I ever saw this person again, I would love to ask him what he would do if someone were to threaten his family, his loved one with dangerous weapon? He would probably be so dumbfounded and try to look for some logical excuse without harming the perpetrator. I wonder what's more important, not hurting his attacker or protecting his family?
-BP
Big Pop;"One Thursday evening in my hometown of Olympia, two black youths ages 21 and 23 who were stepbrothers shoplifted a case of bottled beer at a Safeway store. One of the employees went to confront the the thieves carrying the case and threw right at her".
I saw that video. The clerk could have rightfully defended herself if she had a weapon.
Big Pop;"According to the report, the officer went to approach them, and one of them attacked him with his skateboard and opened fired wounding him. The suspects fled into the woods. As he was following them, the other attacked him with his skateboard and he responded by shooting back".
I haven't seen that video. Can you post a link to the video showing both boys attacking an armed police officer with their skateboards.
My point here is this... Do you know of at least one incident in which a police officer shot an unarmed (no gun or knife) person, and the officer admitted that the person really didn't pose a threat? If you are a cop, would you admit that you were scared of what a suspect "might" do, or that you just were angry so you shot a suspect?
Allen-"I haven't seen that video. Can you post a link to the video showing both boys attacking an armed officer their skateboard."
Are you looking an excuse to try and discredit the police Allen? I don't know anything about Officer Ryan Donald, but I'm sure he had no plans to go out shoot two black males. Like the Michael Brown case, there was no video of Officer Wilson when he shot Brown out of self-defense. While many of Brown's friend testified that Wilson shot him in cold blood as they claim, they never counted on the other eyewitnesses, who were black that testified on Wilson's behalf who saw that Michael Brown charged at Wilson who was unarmed, no gun, no knife! Despite the eyewitnesses, the evidence of the autopsy, Brown supporters don't buy the report and Wilson's life was ruined out of a lie. In the case of the Olympia PD incident, we have to let the investigation take its course. If it turns out Officer Donald fabricated the story,then he should face the consequences and go to jail.
Allen-"My point here is this...Do you know of at least one incident in which a police officer shot an unarmed (no gun or knife) person, and the officer admitted that the person really didn't pose a threat? If you a cop, would you admit that you were scared of that suspect "might" do, or that you just angry so you shot a suspect?
Looks are deceiving, Allen, no matter what. Since police officers have the most difficult job, and if I was a cop Allen, I would be as cautious as possible no matter how innocent the situation may look, even when comes to a traffic stop. In some cases during a traffic stop, the cop has been shot. Like many officers,last thing I want to do Allen is to shoot someone even if it means I have to go and save my life. What about you Allen? Since you live in Detroit, one of the most violent cities there is in the country, if you were a cop in working in a violent area of the city, wouldn't you too admit that you were scared of what the suspect "might" do? Armed or not Allen, the suspects charged at the officer with the officer, and he had to do what he must to defend himself. Hell Allen, a trained martial artist can do serious harm without use of any weapon. Should that cop in order to save his life shoot the martial artist, or just stand there and take the beating. Did that stop an "unarmed" motorist for beating this female trooper? www.youtube.com/watch?v=SafZ1Bu3oql
I have a video for you to watch Allen: since there is a lot of anti-police activities going around, here is a story of a pastor name Jarrett Maupin who for a long time was an outspoken anti-cop activist. He was invited to by the Maricopa County to participate in one of their training seminars. Did he "shot" the suspects because "he was angry"? Let's just say this changed his views about the police.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WzRNsn_BO0
-BP
Big Pop;"Are you looking an excuse to try and discredit the police Allen? I don't know anything about Officer Ryan Donald, but I'm sure he had no plans to go out shoot two black males".
No, I'm not trying to discredit either police, nor give any excuse to the men who attempted to steal from the store. But I asked you, can you give at least one example of a police officer admitting that a suspect posed no threat, and then admit that they still shot the suspect. The point is that when an officer shoots someone, of course they are going to say that the person posed a threat. What else would you expect them to say?
What did the South Carolina officer write in his report after shooting Walter Scott? What did the other S.C. officer tell his supervisor after shooting a man that he told to get his wallet? The most important factor in both of those situations was VIDEO of the shooting. Each video account told a completely different tale than what the officer stated.
Shooting first and asking questions later is not part of police training. The introduction and advent of video taping police now shows what many people have complained about for decades. Police are sworn and PAID to uphold the law, not violate the laws or the rights of citizens.
And no, I'm not demonizing police. I'm pointing out a problem that exists in some police departments, with some police officers.
Big Pop;" Since you live in Detroit, one of the most violent cities there is in the country, if you were a cop in working in a violent area of the city, wouldn't you too admit that you were scared of what the suspect "might" do?".
Yes indeed, Detroit has it's fair share of violence. But I know plenty of Detroit cops. I have two cousins, one of which who is retired, that are Detroit cops. The cops that I know personally have never shot anyone. Sure, they have been involved in high pressure and dangerous situations. The difference, I believe, is that the cops I know grew up in the community and are part of the community. Knowing the people in a community tends to make for a more positive relationship with the community. If someone on the block shot someone else, "Jimmy" the police officer would get almost everyone to tell who shot who. Jimmy the cop also knew who were the B&E crooks, the drug dealers, and the petty thieves.
Big Pop;"I have a video for you to watch Allen: since there is a lot of anti-police activities going around, here is a story of a pastor name Jarrett Maupin, etc...".
I've never been to a police training seminar, nor acted out a police training session. However, I have operated a Alsim AL200 flight simulator, the same type used to train airline pilots. My first few sessions I crashed on take off. Long story short, after I learned the gauges and controls I was able to take off, fly and land without a hitch. But I would never, never ever attempt to fly a real plane. My point here is, training sessions are far different from "real life" experience.
Sure, training is necessary and extremely important. Yet it comes down how a person applies that training, and if you're capable of using that training properly. Pastor Maupin was put in a training situation, just as I was in a training situation of flying a plane. If the training exercise called for him "not" to fire his weapon, Pastor Maupin "crashed" on his first attempt to take off. But if the training called for him to shoot, he took off and landed fine. Either way, it was only a one time, first time training session.
First off, without a video of the Mike Brown shooting NO ONE HERE will ever know what really happened in Ferguson on that day. The fact is that everyone will believe whatever they want to believe.
But you're going to ignore the video Tyrone posted completely contradicting the sunshine and rainbows painted by idiotic plaque to Michael Brown?
Wow
Just wow.
p allen "
Its also said that you shouldn't run from a grizzly bear. But a grizzly bear is a wild animal acting on his adrenaline and instinct. If you run and he catches you, you'll surely feel his fierce wrath and it will kill you. Cops are trained (or should be trained) to control themselves in high pressure situations. When a community feels like the cops are acting like wild animals some people will fear them as such. "
I've been pulled over by cops for speeding, tail light out etc. Odd how the smoky the grizzly bear cop never once tried to go off on me. Then again, I simply acted like I had common sense. Escalating a situation with a cop has never ever worked in the history of interactions between cops an civilians, so why would anyone expect that they will be the first person to win by fleeing and or disobeying a cop's orders? By the way allen. Cops are humans and bears are animals.
anonymous quoting then responding to p allen "First off, without a video of the Mike Brown shooting NO ONE HERE will ever know what really happened in Ferguson on that day.
The fact is that everyone will believe whatever they want to believe.
But you're going to ignore the video Tyrone posted completely contradicting the sunshine and rainbows painted by idiotic plaque to Michael Brown?
You have to excuse allen. Him and reality tend to not gel together very well kind of like trying to mix oil and water, cats and dogs, vampire and garlic etc. I knew he would ignore the plaque, because not even he can give a remotely plausible excuse to warrant a memorial being created in Saint Micheal's "honor". That store video showed the nation that Michael Brown wasn't some purely innocent teen just minding his business. These people tried to portray Trayvon Martin in the same light by only showing the picture of him when he was a kid.
Anon;"But you're going to ignore the video Tyrone posted completely contradicting the sunshine and rainbows painted by idiotic plaque to Michael Brown?".
No, I'm not ignoring the video of Brown roughing up the clerk and stealing cigars. The video clearly showed that Mike Brown was no angel. The video shows that he was a big dumb bully and a thief. However, what the video didn't show, was a big dumb bully charging a police officer while the officer was shooting at him. The video didn't show whether or not if Brown had his hands up trying to surrender to a police officer.
If you took the time and effort to read the several witnesses accounts and testimony, you'll find that half testified that Brown did have his hands up, and half testified that he did not. Therefore, since I wasn't there to witness the shooting, I'll proffer that you, myself and anyone else who wasn't there will choose to believe whatever you choose to believe.
CB;"These people tried to portray Trayvon Martin in the same light by only showing the picture of him when he was a kid".
I clearly remember your first essay take on the Trayvon Martin shooting. You wrote that you believed that Martin was stalked by Zimmerman. This is what you wrote on March 24, 2012.
"The fact of the matter to me is that George Zimmerman called 911 and told the dispatcher that he was following Trayvon Martin, the operator told him to back down. When Mr. Zimmerman decided to ignore the orders of the 911 dispatcher, he lost the right to calm the ultimate shooting of Trayvon Martin was in "self defense". When he got out of his truck to confront Trayvon, the situation became one of stalking and harassment by Mr. Zimmerman".
But as soon as the right-wing went into defense of Zimmerman mode, you took your orders and fell right in line. Suddenly everything Zimmerman said was as if it came from a holy right-wing thumped bible.
After the situation involving Dr. Henry Gates and the Boston PD, I began to believe that it was best that President Obama not comment on these situations and issues. Knowing that many conservatives are "laying in wait" to make racial hay out of what President Obama says, I think it best that he gives no comments. It was within hours after he made comments about the Trayvon Martin issue (very sensible harmless comments I might add), conservatives pounced to attack the black guy in the White House.
CB;"Cops are humans and bears are animals".
I wrote that from the outset Tyrone. Gee wiz... don't you read?
Ooooh wait... I think I know what happened. You didn't understand the part where I called a grizzly bear a "wild animal." As I pointed out (and you realize it also) Cops and Bears are two entirely different species. Therefore: Cops should not act like, or respond to humans like grizzly bears! (that way, grizzly bears won't go around acting like cops....lol)
Tyrone, I just watched a FOX News report on Hannity where a Baltimore Police Lt. stated that the city police officers have basically stopped policing. A resident stated that the criminals are now doing as they please because they've gotten notice that the police are allowing them to do what they will.
So now comes the time to cast the blame. Of course you'll blame the mayor, the prosecutor, the police chief, President Obama, Eric Holder, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, the Congressional Black Caucus, MSNBC, and the Easter Bunny. I say place the blame where it belongs... ON THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING PAID TO DO THE JOB! POLICE OFFICERS!
I can't stop doing my job because I feel as though my boss doesn't support me. I'm all for making reasonable demands from your boss or employer. I support the police in their grievances if they feel as though they are in need of more support from the bosses. But that doesn't mean that police can stop doing their jobs, particularly when people can be harmed by their actions. Baltimore has its fair share of violent criminals. What did you think would happen when it got out that the police are "intentionally" allowing crime to occur?
A few weeks ago we had a conversation about people protesting for a "living wage" in the fast food industry. I support this type of action, in that, the strikers and protesters were not "intentionally" attempting to harm the public. However Tyrone, your sentiments were that if fast food workers don't like the pay and conditions that comes with their jobs, they should look for other work. Question: Do you feel the same about police officers who refuse to do their jobs? If not, why?
P.S., don't give me some kind of silly "fake justification" that police officers and fast food workers somehow doesn't equate. In this case, your job is your job. Look at it this way, what if the local food inspectors, or the water treatment operators in Baltimore decided that they were going to "slow down" and not inspect local markets or treat the drinking water. A job, no matter what it is you do, is a job. When people are paid for a service, the customer/public expect to receive that service.
p allen "Tyrone, I just watched a FOX News report on Hannity where a Baltimore Police Lt. stated that the city police officers have basically stopped policing. A resident stated that the criminals are now doing as they please because they've gotten notice that the police are allowing them to do what they will. "
The complainers, protesters and criminals got what they wanted allen. Isn't that great?! With the Baltimore Police making far fewer arrests as in 40% fewer, that means far fewer blacks who will be "harassed" or die in police custody "something which rarely happened anyways". Seriously, what in the hell did these fools expect? It's never going to be business as usual for the BPD. Crime was relatively under control here in Baltimore thanks to the cops taking a "proactive" stance in trying to stay on top of certain situations and crime trends before they got out of control. Now after what happened with the riots and the politicians throwing them under the bus in order to please the mobs, the police are now acting mainly in a "reactive mode". They are only coming out when a 911 call comes in, and they aren't going out of their way to do their job. Frankly, I don't blame them one bit!! The head of the police union said it best, "the cops are more afraid of doing their job correctly and going to jail then being shot in the line of duty". It's so dam sad it has come to this but again I can't blame them. It's not worth them sticking their necks out just for it to be cut off by a blood thirsty social justice blinded mob.
p allen "So now comes the time to cast the blame. Of course you'll blame the mayor, the prosecutor, the police chief, President Obama, Eric Holder, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, the Congressional Black Caucus, MSNBC, and the Easter Bunny. I say place the blame where it belongs... ON THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING PAID TO DO THE JOB! POLICE OFFICERS! "
Um, cops were obviously doing their job before the whole Freddie Gray thing blew up, so why do you think things have changed? If Mayor Blake and Police Commissioner Bates didn't throw the BPD under the bus then why are the police not doing their jobs to their fullest like they were just prior to the Freddy Gray circus then? Could it be because of MORONS coming out in crowds and surrounding cops and video taping them which is causing other police not to be able to patrol, because they have to go and help back up the officers who are being surrounded by idiotic wannabe amateur camera people.
p allen "I can't stop doing my job because I feel as though my boss doesn't support me. I'm all for making reasonable demands from your boss or employer. I support the police in their grievances if they feel as though they are in need of more support from the bosses. But that doesn't mean that police can stop doing their jobs, particularly when people can be harmed by their actions. Baltimore has its fair share of violent criminals. What did you think would happen when it got out that the police are "intentionally" allowing crime to occur?"
LOL!!!!Can you be arrested and possibly face time n prison "for" doing your job allen? Get back to me on that one. If found out tat cops are intentionally letting crime cccur, I say oh well. A cops greatest fear is being shot in the line of duty, now their other greatest fear is actually losing their freedom, their family, their job and basically everything for doing their job yet due to circumstances a black person dies while in custody. Again, its simply not worth the risk.
Cutting your nose off to spite your face is the theme here.
And wasn't it the Mayor who "intentionally" allowed and actually condoned criminal property damage and looting?
CB;"With the Baltimore Police making far fewer arrests as in 40% fewer, that means far fewer blacks who will be "harassed" or die in police custody "something which rarely happened anyways".
(sarcasm on)
Ohhh sure, it "rarely happens" that a suspect dies in police custody. No big deal, right? And police are all upset because they're being held responsible for some low-life black criminal dying after some cops arrested him. What is policing coming to when you "can't" put black ghetto scum in the back of a paddy wagon and break his neck.
CB;"LOL!!!!Can you be arrested and possibly face time n prison "for" doing your job allen? ".
Why nooooooooo! No one should face prison time if you kill someone while doing your job. Hell, other people are responsible for themselves while I'm working. You obviously were angry when two nursery school teachers went to jail after some dumb kid got into a janitors closet, drank a cleaning solution and died. Dumb kid right? It angered you when a tow truck driver didn't see a guy taking something out the trunk of his car, and backed the tow truck into him killing him, right? No one should be prosecuted or go to jail for negligence. Somebody died because I was doing my job...pffssst! "I'm a tow truck driver. I was trying to tow a car!" I'm a nursery school teacher, I teach 3 and 4 year old's how to count, not drink cleaning solution!" Hell, I'm a cop. I arrest people. If some scum dies after I arrest him ... don't blame me!
I like what Jeffery Tucker has to say over the entire Baltimore events.
https://tucker.liberty.me/baltimore-a-failed-experiment-in-central-planning/
Did your mayor say when that "space to destroy" window of anarchy was to END? Or is it unlimited? Maybe the cops aren't clear on when the open season on cops, other people, and property is due to close? Until the mayor says on TV for the world to hear, "Ok police force, you have my permission to go back to doing your jobs," maybe they'll just put themselves on administrative leave.
In the future, cities like yours should have a "Police officers wanted, only liberals need apply" policy so they could better screen their officers in advance. You know, weed out those who would make an arrest, use their weapon when threatened, defend themselves, enforce the law, fight crime, all that bad stuff liberals don't like cops to do.
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