An illustration of how stupidy and emotion can have dangerous consequences.
I will go into detail tomorrow about the Baltimore City States Attorney Marilyn Mosby officially charging the 6 police officers on Friday in the death of the East Baltimore poison pusher Freddie Gray. I will just say for now that something about these indictments isn't passing my smell test. Anyways as I promised, this is my report from the location from what was once slated to be a senior citizen building on the corner of Federal & Chester Street. As the fake supporters of Freddie Gray celebrate the indictment of the six Baltimore Police Officers, some people are not exactly in the mood to celebrate for obvious reasons.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 11:23 PM
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I do believe that the prosecutor might be overreaching with the present charges. Unless she has credible and solid evidence showing that the cops "intentionally" broke Gray's neck, they could possibly beat these charges.
That being said, there is absolutely no way that Gray broke his own neck while in police custody. If it can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the cops intentionally broke Gray's neck, I think that charges such as Involuntary manslaughter, or criminally negligent homicide would have been more appropriate.
Seems everything hinges on the other suspect in the van who seems to keep being ignored.
He was alive when put in and while driving as the other suspect heard him moving. I haven't heard him say the officers stopped and pulled Gray out or came into the van and appeared to have assaulted him. Can you get into the van's area holding Gray from the front also out of the sight of the second suspect?
Did Gray have an injury prior to the arrest?
Can people be arrested for suspicious behavior?
Can your spinal cord be injured, but not severed and then an intentional impact cause it to be completely severed?
p allen "I do believe that the prosecutor might be overreaching with the present charges. Unless she has credible and solid evidence showing that the cops "intentionally" broke Gray's neck, they could possibly beat these charges."
Wow, there must be a forecast for snow this evening in May. lol Am my eyes reading what you wrote correctly allen?lol You are the absolute last person I would have expected to say that, however you are actually correct (wonders never cease). The charges Mosby laid down on the officers could come back to hunter her much in the way the prosecutors tried to do with George Zimmerman. It's good to see that you see using common sense what the mobs don't see only using only raw emotion. However, the charge of involuntary manslaughter may stick. The definition of involuntary manslaughter is "Involuntary manslaughter usually refers to an unintentional killing that results from recklessness or criminal negligence, or from an unlawful act that is a misdemeanor or low-level felony (such as DUI)". Since there was no intent of the officers to kill Freddie Gray, charge on second degree murder should be dropped against the driver Officer Caesar Goodman. How can Mosby prove that the officers intentionally didn't secure Mr Gray in the paddy wagon? If they can't prove there was malice forethought in their actions, the involuntary manslaughter charge is going to be hard to prove.
Vincent "Seems everything hinges on the other suspect in the van who seems to keep being ignored."
They might be ignoring him, because deep down they know that his credibility is shaky at best, so they do not want to bring attention to him.
Vincent "He was alive when put in and while driving as the other suspect heard him moving. I haven't heard him say the officers stopped and pulled Gray out or came into the van and appeared to have assaulted him."
You're right Vincent, I didn't hear him say any of that those key points either. A good defense could destroy Mosby's whole case knowing these facts. At first when I heard the charges, I thought she might have a solid case, but as day go by it seems that her case in on a bed of quick sand and it's slowly sinking.
Vincent "Can you get into the van's area holding Gray from the front also out of the sight of the second suspect?Did Gray have an injury prior to the arrest?
Can people be arrested for suspicious behavior?Can your spinal cord be injured, but not severed and then an intentional impact cause it to be completely severed?"
People are focusing on the knife whether it was a switchblade or not based on the spring mechanism or something along those lines. I'm not sure if the police vans are accessible through the front. I can try and find out. The Coroner ruled Freddie Gray's death a homicide, but the definition of the word is
"the deliberate and unlawful killing of one person by another; murder."
Where is the evidence that the death was deliberate and unlawful? If Gray struck his head on the back of a bolt, that's an accident not deliberate, unless there is evidence that shows an officer rammed Gray's head into the bolt or something along those lines.
Cb;"Am my eyes reading what you wrote correctly allen?lol You are the absolute last person I would have expected to say that".
Tyrone, you of all people should know that I always use common sense. You might not always agree with my common sense, yet and still, I always use it.
Common sense also tells me that Freddie Gray could not have broken his own neck. The cell phone video clearly showed him alive and responsive when he was taken into police custody. The key questions are simple if you use common sense.
CB;"How can Mosby prove that the officers intentionally didn't secure Mr Gray in the paddy wagon? If they can't prove there was malice forethought in their actions, the involuntary manslaughter charge is going to be hard to prove".
Lets say I felt the need to restrain or detain you because you were upset an not acting rational...let say over the break-up of a relationship. So to keep you from doing something stupid, I put you in the trunk of my car, alive and well, and drive to my house. When I get to my house and open the trunk you are unresponsive. I call an ambulance, they take you to a hospital where its determined that your neck was broken, and you die from the injury.
So I tell my story to the authorities exactly as it happened. How hard would it be to prove involuntary manslaughter?
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