Thursday, June 18, 2015

Pure unspeakable evil strikes and kill 9 people in Charleston South Carolina Church.









I was up late, and I decided to check out the Drudge Report just to see what was happening. At first I thought I was misreading the red headline banner, but unfortunately it was correct. Nine black church goers were killed in an historic church in Charleston South Carolina.  A survivor reported white male in his 20's entered the Emanuel African Methodist Church in Charleston and opened fire on the people who were in the church for a prayer meeting. The gunman fled the scene. The Charleston Police has labeled this horrific act as a "hate crime".  The pastor of the church Clementa Pinckney who is also a South Carolina state senator  is missing.  The investigation has just started, and a huge manhunt is underway for the suspect. This could be a racially motivated massacre, but we will have to wait and see. I have been reading comments by fools already trying to claim that the shooter is a member of the NRA. I'm sure by sunrise, the shooter who nobody knows yet will be labeled as a "tea party, right wing Republican who wears an I love Fox News Tshirt" again without no facts. Look or grandstanding progressives to immediately call for "gun control" legislation in wake of this event.  I've been reading mindless stuff from both black and white racists who have been calling for a "race war" in America for years. The only people who would even entertain being involved in such nonsense are the most fringe elements of either race.Obama is going to comment on this tragedy and for once he should based on scope of what actually happened. I just have zero confidence in him that he will even come close to saying the right thing in order to  calm any racial tensions that might have arisen over this and ask for a wait and see on what happened.


 Since this is a late breaking story, I will have more to say on this horrific act that is basically terrorism in Charleston. Thankfully South Carolina has the death penalty and hopefully it will be put to use, when this person is caught.



23 Comments:

Blogger p. anthony allen said...

First off, my condolences and prayers for the families of those who were murdered.

CB;" I just have zero confidence in him that he will even come close to saying the right thing in order to calm any racial tensions that might have arisen over this and ask for a wait and see on what happened".

So now, let the political discourse begin! Let's all divide ourselves around this tragedy into two separate camps. On one side, gun grabbing race-baiting socialist Muslim loving gay agenda promoting liberals who hate America, hate the 2nd Amendment, hate Christians, and want to destroy America. On the other side.... Dylann Storm Roof. The question now is, which side are you on?

4:09 PM  
Blogger -FJ said...

A great reason for maintaining the death penalty. In Maryland, the taxpayers would be forced to spend $10 million+ in room and board.

7:56 PM  
Anonymous Vincent said...

Well, POTUS has spoken and I heard a condemnation of the American culture, it's racist history and speculation, though facts in his mind, that the shooter had "no trouble getting their hands on a gun." and that politics is keeping his hands tied. This is an attack from POTUS on the Right. He's found the real perpetrator and I for one am tired of his attacks directed towards me.
On a side note, I hear that the gun was given to him by his parents. If I may speculate, like our President finds so valuable , the parents probably obtained the gun legally, so I fail to see what could be done in this case save banning legal purchase.
"You never let a serious crisis go to waste." - Rahm Emanuel

8:39 PM  
Anonymous Indigo said...

From this immense evil, I hope some good may come.

p allen: “So now, let the political discourse begin! Let's all divide ourselves around this tragedy into two separate camps. On one side, gun grabbing race-baiting socialist Muslim loving gay agenda promoting liberals who hate America, hate the 2nd Amendment, hate Christians, and want to destroy America. On the other side.... Dylann Storm Roof. The question now is, which side are you on?

Allen,The first 90% of your comment was spot on. Thank you for that clear concise cut-to-the-chase. The last part of your comment, on DSR the mass murderer, was off. That is because the murderer is on the same side as your first camp. They are what enable and facilitate school, mall and chapel shooters. This includes BigPharma believing parents who allow children to be pumped with Ritalin, Prozac, Zoloft, etc. instead of health, godly training and correction in the home. By the way, old southern democrats who defended slavery were not fearing God, but being controlled by man and by lust and by pride, just like lying transsexual transracial liberal democrats today... In a televised response by Pres. Obama, his emotion did not rise until he started in on ---- yeah, “gun contol.” The problem is not gun control, but lack of self-control due to an arrogant bristling stubborn ignoring of God, morals, and values, which is multiplied worse from saturating our education, internet, media, politics and governments.

People who defend confederate flag, worship guns, hate blacks, are not right wing conservatives. They are fools. Unstable, unenlightened, ungodly fools.

8:50 PM  
Anonymous Indigo said...

Charleston Shooter Was on Drug Linked to Violent Outbursts
Dylann Storm Roof was taking habit-forming drug suboxone
excerpt: "As we previously highlighted, virtually every major mass shooter was taking some form of SSRI or other pharmaceutical drug at the time of their attack, including Columbine killer Eric Harris, ‘Batman’ shooter James Holmes and Sandy Hook gunman Adam Lanza."
http://www.infowars.com/charleston-shooter-was-on-drug-linked-to-violent-outbursts/

I say that the drugs may not be the sole cause, but they can be the fatal “trigger” after a host of other life long problems.

9:03 PM  
Blogger Alpha Conservative Male said...

p allen "So now, let the political discourse begin! Let's all divide ourselves around this tragedy into two separate camps. On one side, gun grabbing race-baiting socialist Muslim loving gay agenda promoting liberals who hate America, hate the 2nd Amendment, hate Christians, and want to destroy America. On the other side.... Dylann Storm Roof. The question now is, which side are you on?"


Put the crack pipe down allen. You say I'm "politicizing, because I questioned Obama?lol I was proven right yet again by Obama's own words. Did you listen to Obama's comments?

His speech was overwhelmingly about promoting GUN CONTROL and that other advanced nations don't have these types of acts. That's "politicizing" this tragedy
There was no sympathy, there was no call for unity just as I predicted. It was a politicized lecture by Obama, I simply know Obama better as you as a fan boy of his willing to overlook everything about him, So again, clear your mind allen.

Again on the theme of "politicizing" A former Obama aid went so low as to try and link Governor Nikki Haley to the Charleston Shooting, politicizing

Speaking of Nikki Haley, Now contrast Obama's comments with that of the Governor of South Carolina Nikki Haley who who talked about how South Carolina was hurting and that the people will come together and to pray for the family and victims

The left again as I predicted are trying to politicize this in blaming Fox News, the NRA, the confederate flag etc. I'm batting at 1,000 on this and it was so easy.

7:09 AM  
Blogger Miss Marty said...

Hellary (sic!) also jumped in there about gun control. The libtards never let a shooting crime go to waste, do they? Sometimes you just have a lone nutcase. Sometimes it might be an FBI set-up. Find an unstable kid and brainwash him to do something heinous that will further the liberal agenda. I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility. The general public never gets to know what is going on behind the scenes.

Those poor victims :( Mostly older women, it sounds like, and kind-hearted church-goers. These are not the people rioting, looting, selling drugs, etc. This crazy kid didn't target gang members or rapists. He targeted some of the best, most trusting people. If he said, "you're raping our women," that makes no sense, as obviously church-going WOMEN are not raping women! Maybe it was the drugs, maybe some kind of programming, or maybe some tumor in his head -- we might never know -- but this young man is no vigilante nor did he make a political statement with these murders. He just gave Obama and pals another excuse to scream for gun control. Obama and Hellary, who put serious weaponry into the hands of terrorists abroad, want gun control. Liberals never care about irony, do they.

Some reports say the killer wanted to start a race war. Had he not noticed Obama's record on race relations? Obama's policies had already fanned those flames. Liberals would say it was the cops who had done that, but listen to Eric Holder's words. Check out some of Obama's "Dreams from My Father."

The best thing to reduce racial tensions is to get some good JOBS back in this country. The libtard plan is just to lecture white people, keep poor black people on welfare from generation to generation, and take away our guns. That plan hasn't worked yet and never will.

Again, those poor, poor victims of this heinous crime. Sorry for such a long rant. Keep up the great blog.

7:24 PM  
Blogger p. anthony allen said...

CB;"You say I'm "politicizing, because I questioned Obama?lol I was proven right yet again by Obama's own words. Did you listen to Obama's comments?
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You questioned Obama before he had said anything. I heard plenty of sympathy and condolence from the President. You didn't hear a call for sympathy because you didn't WANT to hear it.

Yet, I predicted yours (and many other conservatives) misinterpretation and disingenuous reaction to the presidents comments. President Obama could have cried and called Jesus Christ and you knuckle heads would have found fault. It was YOU that said; "I just have zero confidence in him that he will even come close to saying the right thing in order to calm any racial tensions that might have arisen over this and ask for a wait and see on what happened" before the president said anything! Own up to it Tyrone, you threw the first stone. You love the politicization of tragedies. It gives you fodder to attack a president you don't like.

As a matter of fact, where is your condolences for the families of the victims? I read nothing of the sort in your essay. Here's your sentiments for the families from your essay;

"I have been reading comments by fools already trying to claim that the shooter is a member of the NRA".

"I'm sure by sunrise, the shooter who nobody knows yet will be labeled as a "tea party, right wing Republican who wears an I love Fox News Tshirt" again without no facts".

"Look or grandstanding progressives to immediately call for "gun control" legislation in wake of this event".

" I've been reading mindless stuff from both black and white racists who have been calling for a "race war" in America for years".

"I just have zero confidence in him that he will even come close to saying the right thing in order to calm any racial tensions ".

And what "racial tensions" have been spawned by this tragedy? I've seen a very "diverse" crowd of sympathizers gather at the church. Ohhhhh wait... Diverse sympathizers doesn't play well with the conservative meme of -"those blacks sure do act a fool when one of them gets killed by a white person."

Face it Tyrone, you love political theater. Its what makes you feel important in the conservative movement. As you've repeatedly stated; "Black lives don't matter unless there's a political agenda." In your world, blacks being killed matters because it gives you the opportunity to politically attack "liberals and the president."

8:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's amazing how the MSM jumped on this story real quick. A white guy guns down a group of blacks, it's a hate crime, evidently so, because he confessed his reasons. Despite this heinous act, I wish the media would address the real issue of black-on-black crime, which has been an epidemic for years. Or suppose if the roles were reversed? If we need to cut down on violent crimes, we have to address and be vigilante at ALL the issues not just a selective story to fit the narrative. That's like if the media not reporting a serial rapist on the loose and not let the public be aware.

1:14 AM  
Blogger Alpha Conservative Male said...


Miss Marty said "Some reports say the killer wanted to start a race war. Had he not noticed Obama's record on race relations? Obama's policies had already fanned those flames. Liberals would say it was the cops who had done that, but listen to Eric Holder's words. Check out some of Obama's "Dreams from My Father."

The last six years have been about racial tension mainly from blacks on issues that had nothing factual to do about race from the very beginning with the Nutty Professor Skip Gates to the most recent incident involving the death the poison pushing heroine dealer Freddy Gray. The Emmanuel Church shootings was truly a racially motivated incident that can be 100% factually stated, the others weren't and can't. I pray that another black progressive is not elected again as president as long as I am alive. These past 6 years race relations wise have been like no other I've seen in all my life.

3:49 AM  
Blogger Alpha Conservative Male said...

Miss Marty said "Hellary (sic!) also jumped in there about gun control. The libtards never let a shooting crime go to waste, do they? Sometimes you just have a lone nutcase. Sometimes it might be an FBI set-up. Find an unstable kid and brainwash him to do something heinous that will further the liberal agenda. I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility. The general public never gets to know what is going on behind the scenes."

I don't think Hilary used her Kentucky fried black twang voice this time like she did in 2006 at a black church in Harlem or maybe she did, I have to go back and check. Anyways, it was to be expected, the only thing that Hillary could talk about in an attempt to connect with blacks prior to the shootings was "voter rights" as if that was the most pressing issue facing blacks in America. Even with this as with Dear Leader, all they can talk about is about gun control. Too bad they can't talk about "criminal control", considering that it's criminals who are illegally buying guns to commit crimes. And they don't want to talk about how the ones who commit these mass shootings tend to have had some sort of mental illness and or was on some type of mind altering medication, nah forget that, progressives just want to blame the inanimate object that can't do anything on it's own.

Miss Marty said "
Those poor victims :( Mostly older women, it sounds like, and kind-hearted church-goers. These are not the people rioting, looting, selling drugs, etc. This crazy kid didn't target gang members or rapists. He targeted some of the best, most trusting people. If he said, "you're raping our women," that makes no sense, as obviously church-going WOMEN are not raping women! Maybe it was the drugs, maybe some kind of programming, or maybe some tumor in his head -- we might never know -- but this young man is no vigilante nor did he make a political statement with these murders. He just gave Obama and pals another excuse to scream for gun control. Obama and Hellary, who put serious weaponry into the hands of terrorists abroad, want gun control. Liberals never care about irony, do they."

Liberals don't care about irony Miss Marty, because they are blinded to how hypocritical and two faced and fake they truly are. I don't know the exact figure, but I do that there are tens of millions of legal gun owners in America, yet the sheer overwhelming majority of crimes committed with a gun are by people who did "not" buy them legally. For those of the church and the family members of those slain to forgive roof just speaks to truly how devoted they are to their faith. Not everybody could be so forgiving if they were in their shoes even as Christians. I had a feeling this nut case wanted to start a "race war" based on the magnitude and historic location of the church. The New Black Panthers have been calling for a race war for years. I dismiss both sides who call for one as as utter moronic fringes of society. I've always said that when people are so blinded by race, they can only see everything through the prism of race. This man was clearly out of his mind in order to go into a Church and shoot innocent people and to make a statement like "you are rapping our women". This poor fool was brainwashed by his father.

3:49 AM  
Blogger Alpha Conservative Male said...

p allen said "You questioned Obama before he had said anything. I heard plenty of sympathy and condolence from the President. You didn't hear a call for sympathy because you didn't WANT to hear it."

Ah, is the the Obama fan boy crying? lol We both are going to have to agree to disagree on whether Obama was sympathetic or not. You claim that I was politicizing the shooting by criticizing Obama before he made a statement, yet I was proven right in my criticism. When I said that I doubted Obama was going to say the right things, why did he have to talk about gun control and how he perceives how other countries don't have this type of gun violence less then 12 hours after the shooting? That was clearly in poor taste and really what I was referring to.Even CNN as I stated said that Obama used that platform to basically politicize the tragedy in discussing gun control, so such the hurt fan boy, but he was wrong.

p allen "
Face it Tyrone, you love political theater. Its what makes you feel important in the conservative movement. As you've repeatedly stated; "Black lives don't matter unless there's a political agenda." In your world, blacks being killed matters because it gives you the opportunity to politically attack "liberals and the president."

More like I love how I know how liberals think, and I love how they prove me right when I predict how they are going to act. Let me demostrate. These are my original words from my story

Tyrone said "I'm sure by sunrise, the shooter who nobody knows yet will be labeled as a "tea party, right wing Republican who wears an I love Fox News Tshirt" again without no facts. Look or grandstanding progressives to immediately call for "gun control" legislation in wake of this event."

Exhibit A blaming Fox News

Exhibit B blaming the Tea Party and Republicans

Here's a statement from a fake pastor Thomas Dixon who was on CNN with Erin Burnett and Marc Lamont Hill who stated

"The more that this happened with the Tea Party movement, the attack by the Republicans and conservatives against our President, the more it opened up the door for those who were more, more or less afraid, should I say, or skeptical about speaking on these issues to feel more freedom and latitude in presenting the way that they truly felt. So now we see the end result of that."

Allen, did you said something about "political theater"?


4:15 AM  
Blogger Alpha Conservative Male said...

Indigo said "Charleston Shooter Was on Drug Linked to Violent Outbursts Dylann Storm Roof was taking habit-forming drug suboxone
excerpt: "As we previously highlighted, virtually every major mass shooter was taking some form of SSRI or other pharmaceutical drug at the time of their attack, including Columbine killer Eric Harris, ‘Batman’ shooter James Holmes and Sandy Hook gunman Adam Lanza."
http://www.infowars.com/charleston-shooter-was-on-drug-linked-to-violent-outbursts/
I say that the drugs may not be the sole cause, but they can be the fatal “trigger” after a host of other life long problems."

You're right Indigo, it wasn't the sole cause but it was still a cause like how these dangerous drugs tend to be a factor in most if not all of the mass shootings in recent memory. Progressives tend to want to ignore the obvious mental state and what the shooters were taking prior to their murderous acts. They just rather focus on the gun used as it was the one who had a mind of it's own. There is a clear pattern with these powerful mood altering drugs being a contributor to mass murders in our country.

Vincent said "Well, POTUS has spoken and I heard a condemnation of the American culture, it's racist history and speculation, though facts in his mind, that the shooter had "no trouble getting their hands on a gun." and that politics is keeping his hands tied. This is an attack from POTUS on the Right. He's found the real perpetrator and I for one am tired of his attacks directed towards me.

Of course he did Vincent. Obama attended a racially divisive church for 20 years with a racial flaming throwing fake pastor, this guy doesn't know the first thing to say in regards to trying to racially unify this country. That is why liberals like him so much. What happened at Emmanuel AME had nothing to do with "other countries and gun violence". His speech should have even been about that in the first place.

Part of Obama's speech "I’ve had to make statements like this too many times. Communities like this have had to endure tragedies like this too many times. We don’t have all the facts, but we do know that, once again, innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hands on a gun"

I wish I could ask our dopey leader if Dylan Roof would have used explosives or fire bombed the church instead of using firearms would the victims still be dead? As tragic and horrific as this incident was, black on black homicides occur by far and away more frequent then mass shooting, yet I do not recall Obama ever speaking out on black on black homicides.

Vincent said "On a side note, I hear that the gun was given to him by his parents. If I may speculate, like our President finds so valuable , the parents probably obtained the gun legally, so I fail to see what could be done in this case save banning legal purchase."You never let a serious crisis go to waste." - Rahm Emanuel "

You're right Vincent. The gun was gift from his father. Has the media said anything about Dylan Roof's father yet? I haven't heard anything about him as of yet or maybe I just missed it. This crisis has been exploited for maximum politician gain by the left. They are out blaming "the tea party, Fox News, Republicans, conservatives, the NRA" all down the list AS PREDICTED!!

-FJ said...
A great reason for maintaining the death penalty. In Maryland, the taxpayers would be forced to spend $10 million+ in room and board.

Of course, but don't be surprised that some liberal(s) will try to spare Dylan Roof's life if he gets the death penalty so that tax payers will be forced to keep him alive. They love their criminals just like here in Maryland. That's why liberals did away with the death penalty. The next step in their master plan will be for them to claim that life in prison even for murder is "cruel and unusual punishment"


4:58 AM  
Anonymous Indigo said...

The confederate flag issue has also arisen. My view of the confederate flag is this: The confederacy lost the Civil War. Slavery was abolished. The flag - which for many is like a swastika - should have been abolished with it. People defending the flag as "part of their way of life" have a sad life if they depend on cloth with that design. Honestly when I see that plate on a truck bumper - around here usually driven by young white males - I think, either low intelligence, or else a narrow unenlightened semi-literate life. There are hundreds and thousands of symbols on vehicles and flagpoles that do not conjure up the horrors of slavery. A person with a comprehensive knowledge of American history would not parade that thing. Confederate flag should have long ago been banned.

11:31 PM  
Blogger p. anthony allen said...

CB;"Ah, is the the Obama fan boy crying? lol We both are going to have to agree to disagree on whether Obama was sympathetic or not. You claim that I was politicizing the shooting by criticizing Obama before he made a statement, yet I was proven right in my criticism".

Well honestly, yes. This despicable act of racist terror did bring tears to my eyes. That's exactly why I said that you neglected to pay homage and respect for those killed before you ran off into your distorted conservative right-wing rant. Everyone, including myself expected the political discourse to following this senseless act. Trust me, your take on how so-called liberals were going to react is in no way some kind of "incredible incite of transcendental or supernatural powers." What you actually did was "predict" what you were going to do yourself.

You just don't get it, do you Tyrone? Your first thought was "how this tragedy was going to effect YOU!" Let me give you an example: It's like a doctor telling you that your child has a terminal illness, and the "very first question" you ask the doctor is; "How much is this illness going cost me?"

CB;"More like I love how I know how liberals think, and I love how they prove me right when I predict how they are going to act. Let me demostrate. These are my original words from my story"........ Allen, did you said something about "political theater"?.

Are you patting yourself on the back? Giving yourself a pretend "Tiny-Tony" Tyrone award? Why yes, you are. Didn't I sound the overture from the outset of this conversation; "Let the political discourse begin!" Theater Tyrone, Theater. You're just playing your part, the protagonist. However, if you want to play the "blame game", there's enough blame to go around!

Exhibit C, blaming Liberals.
Exhibit D, blame president Obama.

"Yet how can we ignore the climate of violence that is sharpening conflicts instead of soothing them? How can we ignore a simple truth: Barack Obama and Eric Holder created much of this atmosphere of anger, bitterness and bile with their disdain of whites...".

Hell, Dylann Roof blamed Trayvon Martin!.

5:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My condolences go out to the victims and their families.

But, I have to question the differences of the reactions. For the past couple of years, a white police officer shoots and kills a black criminal, even when the shooting was justified, or the criminal dies under police custody such as the case of Freddie Gray. Despite that he had a criminal record, the cop is labeled a racist, riots break out, businesses are destroyed, and the victims families won't forgive the police officer for killing their criminal loved ones and want him in jail or worse.

In this recent shooting in a Church in Charleston, SC the shooter, an admitted white supremacist and wanted to start a race war, which his plan backfired. He was apprehended without resistance, no riots broke out, no businesses were destroyed, and the families of the victims have forgiven Dylann Roof. If I have to guess correctly, he will get the death penalty, unless the victims family convinces the judge to spare him and he rot behind bars for the rest of his life.

How was showing negative reaction toward the police is much different than this hate-monger?

In response to Indigo's comments about the Confederate flag: the flag in question is known as the Southern Cross and was flown in battle by several armies such as the Armies of Tennessee and most notably by the Army of Northern Virginia commanded by Robert E. Lee. The flag too was used as Naval Jack of the Confederate Navy. This flag was never flown at statehouses of the CSA. The reason why the Southern Cross was used on the battlefields, was the Confederate national flag, known as the Stars and Bars that was used on the battlefields earlier in the Civil War often led to confusion and friendly fire on all sides because it looked almost too similar to the Union flag. This caused great concern by Confederate Gen. P.G.T. Beauregard after the Battle of Manassas. The national flag of the CSA that was used on the battlefields was modified at least three times.

It is necessary to disclaim that any connection of the Southern Cross to neo-Nazis, skin-heads, the KKK and any other white supremacy group. These groups have usurped this flag and desecrated it by their acts. They have no moral rights to use this flag-it is a flag of honor, designed by the confederacy to distinguish itself from the Union. While states who fly the Southern Cross are being attacked, the South denies any relations to these hate groups and denies them the right to use the flag of the confederacy for any purpose. The crimes committed by these groups under a stolen banner only exacerbates the lies which links the secession to slavery interests, when from a proud Southerner's view, was to distinguish himself from the Union.

To compare the Confederate flag to the swastika is pretty ignorant. The swastika has been around for thousands years and can be found all over the world including Native-American art. The swastika has been used as religious symbols and is commonly used such as the right-hand swastika as one of 108 symbols of the Hindu god Vishnu, as well as the symbol of the sun and the Hindu sun god, Surya. When the swastika is reverse, it represented the evil Hindu goddess, Kali. The swastika too is commonly used in Hindu art, architecture, and decorations. It can be seen in temples, houses, doorways, clothing, cars, and even in cakes, especially used in a Hindu wedding. Imagine for a moment you or I would come across a swastika on a cake or any object, we probably would never guess that it was meant for a Hindu event.

Like the Southern Cross, the swastika too was usurped and desecrated by a madman, Adolf Hitler who indicated it as the Aryan symbol for racial purity and superiority. Unfortunately, because of the Nazis, irreparable damage has been done to its significance.







1:56 AM  
Anonymous Eddie said...

I do not approve of Cantwell's foul language but man does he have some good points.

https://youtu.be/chPkW_ltcCc

Eddie

9:57 PM  
Blogger p. anthony allen said...

Anon; "How was showing negative reaction toward the police is much different than this hate-monger?".

don't be insulted by the sarcasm...

First off, hate mongers hate, and police, well, they "police." Thus, if the police went into a black church, and killed 9 people, you bet your sweet bippy there would have been riots!

(sarcasm off...)

The reaction is different because the entire situation is different. Dylann Roof is not an emissary of the law. Roof, by all accounts is the true definition of a "thug." An Animal. A RACIST! Roof is the epitome of all the epithets used by conservatives to describe Mike Brown, Freddie Gray, Trayvon Martin and Eric Garner. Yet, the irony is this.... neither of the aforementioned was responsible for the deaths of anyone. Strange twist of fate, huh?

Most blacks know that Roof was a "lone wolf", just like the Wade Michael Page, who shot and killed six at the Sikh Temple in Wisconsin. So, why is it that you seem to believe that black folk's riot just because a cop or random white person kills a black person? Take a serious look at the incidents in Freddie Gray, Mike Brown, Eric Garner and even the Trayvon Martin case. If you take a serious look, you'll find that each shares a common thread. I'll let you figure it out....

10:41 PM  
Blogger p. anthony allen said...

Anon; "It is necessary to disclaim that any connection of the Southern Cross to neo-Nazis, skin-heads, the KKK and any other white supremacy group. These groups have usurped this flag and desecrated it by their acts".

Why did they chose the Confederate Battle Flag? Isn't it obvious that "they" believe that it stands for what they represent? Are they wrong to believe that the confederate flag stood for separation of the races? Is it wrong for them to believe that the Southern soldiers who fought under that flag, were indeed advocates for keeping blacks enslaved? Doesn't that flag stand for an intent to break the country apart? Is there any other symbolic use for a flag of battle, other than battle?

Anon; "Like the Southern Cross, the swastika too was usurped and desecrated by a madman, Adolf Hitler who indicated it as the Aryan symbol for racial purity and superiority".

Wrong! In that vane, the Southern cross of the confederate flag is not "like" the Swastika. Didn't you, yourself point out that; "The swastika has been around for thousands years and can be found all over the world including Native-American art"?

The confederate flag was designed by slaveholder and secessionist William Porcher Miles. There was no "confederate battle flag" until Miles designed it. Thus, it has not been "usurped" as you claim. It was designed by a slaveholder and secessionist. That is what the White supremacy groups see in it. It was for that same reason that the racist segregationists in the 1940's, 50's and 60's adopted it as their symbol of defiance. The 1948 Dixecrats. And the 1950s Southern segregationists. Till the 1960s Civil Rights defiance racist groups, they all displayed that damn flag.

Had it been designed, christened and flown over the South prior to the Civil War, I would concede that it has a different meaning. But that flag was designed and flown as a sign of decent, defiance, conflict and hate.

2:31 AM  
Anonymous Indigo said...

Re: comment by Anonymous on my prior comment of confederate flag:

My comment above on the confederate flag can be read and understood by any teenager on the street. To bring in technicalities and rationalizations on this subject, is useless. Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus and people do not name their child “Judas” because in the minds of people it represents, it symbolizes, evil and betrayal, and nobody cares what the word Judas literally means. Many southerners need a catharsis. They need to vomit out some ways and thoughts. There is a country song where the whole song they just keep repeating “Alabama” over and over. There is something neurotic and strange to be that proud of where they are from. Decent people do not want a proud parading of something that reminds them of oppression, beatings, lynchings, ripping apart of spouses parents and their children, and the lost cause of slavery. The time has come and past to bring down that flag, or at least relegate it to museums of history. In America today, sodomite and legislative and judicial imperialism is taking place, but the confederate flag dismantling is a good result, especially as it effects a forward change of mind.

4:29 PM  
Anonymous Indigo said...

Neither on the confederate flag or any issue do I agree to appease liberal democrats and their policies. On this particular issue, well as they say, a broken clock is right twice a day. If democrat liberals later want to: 1) Take down the American flag, 2) Use the Charleston mass murder to bolster liberal policies in the cities, 3) To given more “marriage” privileges sodomites, and to 4) Further blind the masses to the necessity of conservative answers to liberal caused problems, Then my unequivocal answers are,
No. No. No. And, No. Issues only get piggybacked when people are emotionalistic not reasonable (like Obama & dear followers, in his Charleston eulogy, vainly trying to align his liberal policies with God), or when corrupt legislators pile on purpose defeating “pork” in back room deals to enhance their political powers.

5:09 PM  
Blogger inimon1@yahoo.com said...

Obama effect
Arrogant, dictator wannabe, socialist, divisive to the races and dangerous on the world stage. Obama the pacifist has only helped America's enemies grow stronger.

Hillary is more of the same... she harps on Republicans as if they are not for women's rights... yet would never debate Carly Fiorina because Hillary is not that bright. The democrats don't understand that women are not going to vote for a woman they can't stand. To think otherwise is to be degrading to women with any type of education.

Democrats and Republicans need to accept a country needs secure borders as well as a strong defense to keep the peace on the streets and abroad. After two terms of Obama the country is in shambles.

7:20 PM  
Blogger inimon1@yahoo.com said...

Obama effect
Arrogant, dictator wannabe, socialist, divisive to the races and dangerous on the world stage. Obama the pacifist has only helped America's enemies grow stronger.

Hillary is more of the same... she harps on Republicans as if they are not for women's rights... yet would never debate Carly Fiorina because Hillary is not that bright. The democrats don't understand that women are not going to vote for a woman they can't stand. To think otherwise is to be degrading to women with any type of education.

Democrats and Republicans need to accept a country needs secure borders as well as a strong defense to keep the peace on the streets and abroad. After two terms of Obama the country is in shambles.

7:20 PM  

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