The Donald vs the RINO establishment
To say that the Republican establishment is desperate to stop Donald Trump is a HUGE understatement. In an odd way, Donald Trump has been playing the role as a filter in helping to separate out the true conservative candidates from the Republican establishment candidates posing as conservatives. The Republican Party has become the stuck on stupid party in recent years. They seem to care more about what the media and Democrats say then what their own supporters have to say. I had a feeling that the fake controversy over Donald Trump's comments about John McCain wasn't going to impact Trump's poll numbers, and I was right. For starters, conservatives (including active military and veterans) have no love lost for John McCain, so when the Republican establishment candidates such as Rick Perry, Jeb Bush, Lindsey Graham etc attacked Trump, their plan to use McCain's service to take down Trump backfired. Not only did it backfire, but Trump's poll numbers have increased further post his McCain military service comments. If the other GOP candidates who are attacking Trump had any sense, they would be spending more time trying to figure out why Trump is resonating with the base and less time attacking him.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 9:54 PM
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CB-"The Republican Party has become the stuck on stupid party in recent years."
Instead of calling them RINOs, maybe we should refer to the current GOP as the Grand Old Prunes, because that's what they're acting like.
CB-"If the other GOP candidates who are attacking Trump had any sense, they would be spending more time trying to figure out why Trump is resonating with the base instead of attacking him."
Trump said that the public is fed up with most career politicians and all they do is just talk and no walk. The Grand Old Prunes, and including the Democrats, don't like it when someone who is not a politician sees it like it is and speaks out. Since Trump is way ahead in the polls against his rivals, and if his polls are much higher than Hillary's, then the Grand Old Prunes should throw their support for The Donald than trying to dismantle him and try to prevent Hillary Clinton to being elected.
Now the latest report was by the liberal paper The Daily Beast, was that he raped his then spouse Ivana Trump more than 30-years ago. Unfortunately, they did not count on that his ex-wife came to his defense. Strange. Liberal newspapers go and attack Trump to make this claim, which backfires, yet defend Bill Clinton for his adulterous escapades and rape allegation.
-BP
Thanks for the video. You nailed it Tyrone on the stupidity of the RINO establishment. The RINOs mock the very conservative base that is behind Donald Trump's rising poll numbers. If instead they like Trump were boldly saying what needs to be said, the media machine would attack them the same way they do Trump. I see on the news today (7-28-15) that the media went after Trump on sex (“rape”). First, they tried cutting his King Money – that did not work. Now they go for Queen Sex (regarding his first wife) but looks like that won't work either because his first wife Ivana said she supports him for president. The media knew there was no case there, but want to keep associating Trump with scandal to bring him down. McCain, Perry, Graham, and Jeb, instead of rallying against this liberal democrat smear machine, are aiding and abetting it, just like the RINOs do in Washington DC. On full display, slime, sleaze and stupidity.
The way Jeb defends illegal aliens, you'd think he was Obongo's speech writer! Are they in a contest to see who can lure more illegals here? Hellary addressing La Raza was a nice try, but Jeb gave his speech in Spanish. Way to alienate AMERICAN voters! HOW are any of these un-Americans even registering in the polls? Do they only poll "hispanics"? Are the Demon-rats going to give their nomination to Trotsky or power-mad Hellary? The Donald might HAVE to go third party rogue. What I fear is that some govt agency like the CIA will pay Mr. Trump a visit, threaten to kill one of his kids, and then suddenly he'll pull out of the race citing "health concerns" or such. That is what I expect of our govt. Too many BAD BAD BAD individuals profit off making America a hell-hole. When some rare potential savior like Trump (Perot, Ron Paul, Pat Buchanan) comes along to try actually putting AMERICANS first, all the forces of evil unite to stop them with mass media attacks and behind the scenes threats. I expect all of Mr. Trump's businesses to be audited, and somehow they will find some guy who lived down the hall from him in college to come forward and claim "I remember he used the N-word!"
If Mr. Trump points out he married a LEGAL immigrant, the media will scream "cruel personal attacks on Mrs. Bush," etc. I also expect illegals and their anchor baby families will vandalize cars with Trump bumper stickers. Probably MASS demonstrations of proud illegals will march in the streets telling Mr. Trump to "go back to Europe" (?? They JUST came from Mexico. Mr. Trump did NOT just get off a plane from Europe! Reality never gets in the way of the things La Raza claims!) Our media headlines SHOULD say "Mexican Hate Group La Raza Attack American Patriot Trump" but instead we'll get "Civil Rights Group Denounces Trump's Racist Slurs"!
WILL the American public ignore all the media propaganda and listen directly to The Donald's full speeches on Youtube and vote to make America great again? I will hold out hope!
The other day Donald Trump said something profound, concerning why he goes forward and not backward. Paraphrasing, he said, God put a genius in each of us; We just have to listen to it; Many people don't follow it.”
All the “handlers” and pundits talking about “tactical political mistakes” and the Karl Rove type advisors – they are putting Republican into straitjackets, until they are dumbed down and stupified into memorized sound bites, with the “genius” no where to be found. (Karl Rove told Ted Cruz there was “not a prayer” and “no chance” of him defeating a wealthy incumbent to be elected Tex. Senator in 2012. Wrong! Cruz won by double digits.)
In 2008 Sarah Palin wanted to go campaign in Michigan where she thought she could swing it by being herself. McCain's advisors told Palin, “No. Don't go. It would be a mistake … “ (Why should they vote for candidates who are afraid to talk to them?) Well, Obama won Michigan. McCain's people were wrong, and Palin was right. Palin in 2008 had more guns, guts and glory than did McCain and his entourage.
CB;"I had a feeling that the fake controversy over Donald Trump's comments about John McCain wasn't going to impact Trump's poll numbers, and I was right".
Negro Puh-leeeeeze! If you did believe that Trump's comments were not going to hurt him, you certainly didn't say it. I mean really... if you thought it, why not say it? In fact, I was the one who informed you that Trump's comments were like a "shiny new penny" to conservatives. The comments are all shiny and pretty, but they aren't worth much if anything at all.
The fact is, all a conservative pundit or politician needs for acceptance or prominent promotion to a high pedestal status is a line of negative rhetoric. Mike Huckabee's "marching the Jews to the oven" comment is another example of this. Petty and foolish rhetoric plays well among conservatives. In fact, its what put Donald Trump high in polls. The more outrageous and senseless the comment, the more the conservative base eats it up.
As I posted on the other thread, I'd really love to see Trump win the GOP nomination. If conservatives believe that President Obama's comments about a "stupidly acting cop" and "if he had a son he would look like Trayvon", if they think those comments were "racist", wait until you get a load of Trump! Imagine the conservative political support Trump could garner by ridiculing blacks.
Frankly, I'd like to see the Republican party become more aggressive against Black Democrats with less "coded" language and more straight forward political attacks. Hell Huckabee isn't backing down on his "marching Jews to the over door." Republican candidates should use direct "slavery" metaphors. Refer to "black crackheads" and "black criminals" as a scourge on American society. Trump could come out in support of "Stop and Frisk" for black men. Hell, he could even incorporate the rhetoric of Sean Hannity's friend and confidant Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson. Terms such as; "The average black man is not worth a dime. -Thank God for slavery,’ because, you know, had not, then the blacks over here would have been stuck in Africa. -I can say with confidence that many black males are both lazy and irresponsible. -I would do is take all black people back to the South and put them on the plantation so they would understand the ethic of working.". With rhetoric like that, a Republican could become a "superstar" to the conservative base....
Of course the new move for The Left is to make "The Donald" the poster boy for rape, based on some heated divorce accusations. Accusations now retracted by the accuser. The Left is now explaining what rape is to me. They're so patient.
I considered throwing in a Bill Cosby/Bill Clinton joke, but rape isn't funny and neither is The Left.
BP said "Instead of calling them RINOs, maybe we should refer to the current GOP as the Grand Old Prunes, because that's what they're acting like."
I have a better one. How about calling them the "Grand Old Phonies"? That's what they are. They have ceased being an opposition party a long time ago. They have in essence become an extended wing of the Democratic Party. To my knowledge very few if any of the GOP candidates have said one word about body parts trafficking by the baby butcher mill Planned "Kill for Profit"?hood. All they can do is be fixated on.
BP said "Trump said that the public is fed up with most career politicians and all they do is just talk and no walk. The Grand Old Prunes, and including the Democrats, don't like it when someone who is not a politician sees it like it is and speaks out. Since Trump is way ahead in the polls against his rivals, and if his polls are much higher than Hillary's, then the Grand Old Prunes should throw their support for The Donald than trying to dismantle him and try to prevent Hillary Clinton to being elected."
It's pretty said that us common folks understand perfectly why people like Donald Trump, Carly Fiorina and Dr Ben Carson are connecting with voters and the clueless idiots in the GOP can't figure it out. You're right BP, all three people are not career politicians. I've said a long time ago that a riff was getting wider and wider in the GOP. Clueless liberals actually thought and they still do to this day think the conservatives and the tea party runs the Republican Party! Nobody ever accused liberals of being able to grasp reality well. The grand old fools aren't going to rally around Trump. To them Trump is an outsider to the political ruling class elites in the GOP. Since Trump is a billionaire, he doesn't have to play by the party's rules and isn't beholden to them for donor cash. Simply they can't control him like they can the others.
BP said "Now the latest report was by the liberal paper The Daily Beast, was that he raped his then spouse Ivana Trump more than 30-years ago. Unfortunately, they did not count on that his ex-wife came to his defense. Strange. Liberal newspapers go and attack Trump to make this claim, which backfires, yet defend Bill Clinton for his adulterous escapades and rape allegation."
I wouldn't be surprised if the GOP is working with the Democratic Party behind closed doors to take down Trump. It's funny if this is the best they can come up with Ivana Trump has already thrown ice cold water on the Daily Beast's story and others hoping to use it to go after Trump. She claims the story is garbage, and she endorses Trump which will more then likely make Ivana an enemy of the left especially. I remember,when progressives rallied the wagons around Bill Clinton in Cigargate. Liberals claimed that Clinton didn't do anything wrong. "It was just sex" they said. They are some phony people. Normally the tabloid sleaze part of politics is normally reserved for when a candidate wins the nomination.For this type of story to come out even before the debates shows how desperate they really are to destroy Trump.
Indigo said...
Glad you enjoyed it Indigo. Thanks for the video. You nailed it Tyrone on the stupidity of the RINO establishment. The RINOs mock the very conservative base that is behind Donald Trump's rising poll numbers. If instead they like Trump were boldly saying what needs to be said, the media machine would attack them the same way they do Trump."
To this day, you notice that the GOP still can't say Trump was wrong in saying that "rapists and murderers are coming across the border from Mexico". People have presented story after story after story after story of illegal aliens from Mexico and South American countries committing murders and rapes in this country. This is why the GOP looks so stupid, when they attack Trump. The facts are clearly on his side, yet they don't get it!! Notice how the RINOs wanted Trump to apologize to McCain for his comments, but McCain wouldn't apologize for calling conservatives "koo koo birds", "crazies" and "nativists".
Indigo said "I see on the news today (7-28-15) that the media went after Trump on sex (“rape”). First, they tried cutting his King Money – that did not work. Now they go for Queen Sex (regarding his first wife) but looks like that won't work either because his first wife Ivana said she supports him for president. The media knew there was no case there, but want to keep associating Trump with scandal to bring him down. McCain, Perry, Graham, and Jeb, instead of rallying against this liberal democrat smear machine, are aiding and abetting it, just like the RINOs do in Washington DC. On full display, slime, sleaze and stupidity."
People who like Trump likes that he is a pitbull that will and is going after liberals and the Rino establishment. They are trying to do a Sarah Palin aka Palinize Trump. That's the game plan, but it's backfiring on them!!! When Palin was on the McCain ticket, the media made up stories after stories negative against Palin. Palin wanted to fight back but Steve Schmidt(McCain's campaign manager) didn't. They didn't want her to appear to be aggressive etc. Trump on the other hand is a different and apparently he isn't letting the GOP consultants run his campaign which is another reason for it's success so far. The only other candidate I've known of that wasn't afraid to call out liberals and the media was Newt Ginrich. The latest Poll has Trump leading Jeb in FLORIDA!LOL This shows how weak Jeb truly is, the other ankle biters such as Graham, Perry, Rubio etc are all in single digits and pretty much irrelevant.
Indigo said "In 2008 Sarah Palin wanted to go campaign in Michigan where she thought she could swing it by being herself. McCain's advisors told Palin, “No. Don't go. It would be a mistake … “ (Why should they vote for candidates who are afraid to talk to them?) Well, Obama won Michigan. McCain's people were wrong, and Palin was right. Palin in 2008 had more guns, guts and glory than did McCain and his entourage."
Exactly, Palin's appeal was due to her being herself. The ruling class elites in both parties were flat out disgusted that a person like Palin was on the national stage. She connected with the grass roots of America and not the elites in New York City and Washington DC. Dr Carson is another person who isn't scripted and speaks his mind, and that's why conservatives like him. The base is tired of pandering, sniveling, scared empty suites. That's why McCain and Mittens lost.
Miss Marty said "The way Jeb defends illegal aliens, you'd think he was Obongo's speech writer! Are they in a contest to see who can lure more illegals here? Hellary addressing La Raza was a nice try, but Jeb gave his speech in Spanish. Way to alienate AMERICAN voters! HOW are any of these un-Americans even registering in the polls? Do they only poll "hispanics"? Are the Demon-rats going to give their nomination to Trotsky or power-mad Hellary?"
It would be funny watching Rubio and Jeb making fools out of themselves seeing who can pander to Hispanics the best. Instead of them rallying for the support of legal law abiding Hispanics who share conservative values, they some how think merely speaking Spanish to them is going to line them up in droves to vote for the. There is no way in hell Jeb Bush can win the presidency even if he wins the nomination. With the problems Puerto Rico is having economically and financially, Puerto Ricans are migrating to Florida. Puerto Rico has been a solidly Democratic territory for a long time, and each Puerto Rican who moves to Florida will make the critical swing state ever more blue tot he point it's game over for Republicans. So Jeb and the GOP don't get it. California was solidly Republican until Reagan inked the amnesty bill in the 80's,and it has never gone Republican since. I believe Jeb and the establishment feel that they have the conservative vote locked up regardless of how they treat them, all they have to say is if they don't support "our candidate" Hillary will win. I don't think that tactic is going to be enough this time. It didn't work with Romney.
P allen said "Negro Puh-leeeeeze! If you did believe that Trump's comments were not going to hurt him, you certainly didn't say it. I mean really... if you thought it, why not say it? In fact, I was the one who informed you that Trump's comments were like a "shiny new penny" to conservatives. The comments are all shiny and pretty, but they aren't worth much if anything at all."
I've been ahead of the curve in talking about the growing split in the GOP for years. I've stated many times back in 2008 and 2012 that McCain and Romney could not energize the conservative based. I've stated many times as well that the Republican establishment controls the party and not conservatives while dopey liberals though otherwise. While I stated that the Tea Party was formed to take control of the GOP away from the establishment, liberals foolishly thought it was created to attack Obama because he was black! I know conservatives better then you ever would allen. So just sit down and learn. Forget the last part, that's not happening for you. lol
p allen said "
The fact is, all a conservative pundit or politician needs for acceptance or prominent promotion to a high pedestal status is a line of negative rhetoric. Mike Huckabee's "marching the Jews to the oven" comment is another example of this. Petty and foolish rhetoric plays well among conservatives. In fact, its what put Donald Trump high in polls. The more outrageous and senseless the comment, the more the conservative base eats it up."
Do you really want me to list the inflammatory remarks made by Democrats against Republicans? You know the comments that "play well among liberal. Here's a starter kit for you.
Jesse Jackson "all Hymie wants to talk about, is Israel; every time you go to Hymietown, that's all they want to talk about."
That comment played well among liberals didn't it?
CB; "I've been ahead of the curve in talking about the growing split in the GOP for years. I've stated many times back in 2008 and 2012 that McCain and Romney could not energize the conservative based".
Again..... PUH-LEEEEEEZE! Tyrone, you only "parrot" what's being said and told by the conservative masters. If Mark Levin doesn't agree with it, you don't agree with it. If Tea Party types don't agree, you don't agree. Conservative ideology doesn't require that you "do something" to prove your conservative credibility. It only requires that you "say something" (or not say something) to prove your worth. Here's an example using your own words. From a reply post on your essay, "A vote for these three RINO's for president is a vote for CAP AND TRADE" from June 2011;
CB; "They've come around on the issue just in time to run for president in an attempt to con conservatives into believing that they are conservatives JD more like it. Did Cain say whether be believes in man made Global Warming JD? If Cain said he doesn't, it will definitely set him apart from the RINO poser conservatives".
Conservative voters don't care if a candidate has "DONE" diddly squat. Conservative voters like to "HEAR" what they want to "HEAR." Here again, Donald Trump is the example. Trump has never been elected dog catcher, let alone President of the United States. He knows absolutely nothing about governing a country, state, county, city or an incorporated township. But he "SAYS" what the conservative base wants to hear. As I stated, Trump is a "shiny new penny", nothing more.
On July 30, 2015, another one enters the GOP race – Gilmore. Some of these people run for president so that, later when they try to profit from the corporate lobbying slime bucket, they can have on their resume, “2016 presidential candidate.” Running for president gives them a reason to develop their Contact List, and enlarge their political network. They don't care if they dilute the primary conservative vote, cause their mouth is salivating over the feathers they can add to their retirement nest.
Tyrone, I love the way that you and kevin Jackson express yourselves. You guys share a lot in common with "The Donald" in that you are not afraid of telling it like it is! We've become a nation engulfed by the stupidity of liberalism which is decimating our nation by the seconds! Never in my adult life, would i have imagined that we would finally be able to rally support behind a straight shooter like Donald Trump who is finally standing up against the status quo while courageously taking the blows by both the RINO establishment as well as the Obama-maniia-mdia! What's even funnier is seeing the reaction of a number of over exposed, talking heads from both CNN & Fox News who earlier, were discounting Mr. Trump and his bid for the office of the presidency as they are now backtracking & forced to take him & his accumulating poll numbers seriously!!
If Mr. Trump were a typical, do-nothing politician who was beholden to his RINO constituency comprising of Karl Rove & Rience Pribus, he would have buckled down & been forced by his advisors to issue a very, insincere, forced apology regarding the accurate statements in which he directed towrds John McCain's inflated "war hero" status! But the American people, the "silent majority" are finally waking up
and recognizing what's at stake regarding our crumbling nation. I'm also getting tired of listening to these equally, ineffective television commentators who keep on directing their "back-hand" compliments towrds Mr. Trump, as they profess "I like his spunky attitude", "his courageous spirit in challenging the MSM" "his refreshing spontanaity" but......would I vote for him? "Of course not! Ha, ha, ha, ha! Oh, I just can't understand how the once respected field of journalism could have stooped so low in producing such a polluted field of over paid & marginally talented "opinion makers"! These characters would have been better off stuffing envelopes in a mail room for a living as oppose to passing themselves off as "gifted journalists"!
It's high time that we stop relying on the commentary of such an abysmally shallow field of overrated, wanna-be-celebrity oriented media hand puppets and utilize our common sense in elevating true leaders such as the productive Donald Trump who can finally start the wheels in motion in debunking the stupidity of liberalism and their politically-correct agenda of celebrating the "diversity" of mediocrity!!!
Donald Trump soared up not just because of his bluntness about issues including illegal aliens, but also because of his optimism about America, and “Can Do” attitude. His slogan is: “Make America Great Again!” In the 1980's Ronald Reagan soared not just because of his confident conservatism, but also because, even when he was being savaged, he maintained a happy sense of humor, and a sunny optimism that better days can come to America. That is political courage. When Trump speaks of bringing jobs back home from overseas, and cutting trade deals that do not cheat America, and about his popularity with legal Mexicans, all that resonates with Americans who are hungry, not for tired empty platitudes, but for pro-America enthusiasm.
Great video, Tyrone! Once again, you nailed it. The RINO's in the Establishment Wing need to get a grip on just WHO their constituency is, and it's NOT the jackasses who report for the MSM. Jeb Bush and his Karl Rove led Billionaire Boys Club need to find a new way to waste their billions. Defeating more conservative candidates is not productive, and is guaranteed to keep the Republican Base at home on early November election days.
On 7-31-15 Lester Holt interviewed Jeb Bush. To me, Jeb's words and body language was the same ol' same ol,” and appears to be deep in the pocket of interest groups.
Then on 8-1-15 NBC “interviewed” Lindsay Graham. Tired, tired, tired. That John McCain was right there by his side was enough for me to not be for Graham. A person would need “No Doz” to sit thru much of Graham.
Glad too see Ben Carson move up to fourth place in the latest poll. The voice of reason climbs.
Looks like ten debaters selected for August 6 in Cleveland. Trump, Walker, Jeb, Carson, Paul, Cruz, Huckabee, Rubio, Christie, with Kasich or Perry vying for the tenth slot.
I am so happy that Donald Trump is doing what so few puppet RINOs are doing and that's exposing the fallacy of Barack Obama and the black community! Donald is currently laying blame on the doorstep of the so-called "black Messiah" whom the white liberal Democrat establishment, thrusted upon our nation nearly seven and a half years ago. With all of the unneccessary hype surrounding Obama and how he was somehow going to "heal the racial animosity" upon our shores with his ethereal presence, Obama has been a grave disappoinment and then some. Donald will be challenged no doubt by the liberal moderators during the 2016 debates and have a bunch of gotcha questions thrown upon him regarding "racism in America" while they paint him as being someone who is "out of touch with the black community".
This will be a great opportunity for Donald to express the truth in his usual, brutal fashion.While alerting the public on the 50 year disaster of Democrat policies which have left many within the black community economically, spiritually and morally bankrupt! Black America no longer needs to be coddled as Obama has by white liberals and treated like children who cannot hear the truth. They need to take a good hard, look at themselves and the poor choices in which they have continually made by supporting ineffective Democrat presidents and policy makers like The Clintons, DeBlasio & Obama which have left them upon the bottom of the barrel. Their cities are a completel wreck as are their personal lives due to the morally corrupt, Democrat policies which have been initiated by LBJ after the Civil rights movement! LBJ was quoted also as attesting that those "Niggers would continue voting Democrat for the rest of their lives so long as they were continually handed Government subsidies by his party"!
Ha! Ha! Gawker published the personal cellphone number of Donald Trump. So, Trump tweeted out the same number to encourage his more than 3 million social media followers to give him a call and listen to his 2016 presidential campaign message! (To prevent messages, callers are told the message box is full.) Trump capitalizes again, and commentors laud his quick thinking smarts.
http://clashdaily.com/2015/08/liberal-website-publishes-trumps-cell-donald-gets-last-laugh/
Meanwhile, Jeb Bush apologizes, saying he mis-spoke on “womens health issues,” when he had actually been addressing cutting off federal funding of Plannned Parenthood. So he “mis-spoke” while using the lefts own euphemism for abortion, “womens health” (which along with “mammograms” and “counseling” are a lie). Jeb wants to be president but could not say what he means or mean what he says.
http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/insession/2015/08/04/jeb-bush-questions-funding-levels--womens-health-issues/31129355/
I watched the Republican debates last night, and was frankly disappointed in it. I missed the first portion and heard that Carla Fiorina dominated the whole thing.
It would appear that not all the candidates got a fare share of the debates or viewing time. Ben Carson, Ted Cruz, Mike Huckabee and John Kasich appeared to be scarce. The ones who seem to got more airtime were Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, Marco Rubio and Chris Christie. When it came to Donald Trump, it appeared that the panelists attacked him like Chris Wallace was inquiring about Trump's failed business that went bankrupt, and Megyn Kelly asking about his alleged misogynistic remarks. I thought Trump was going to bite Wallace's head off but he kept his cool. As for Megyn Kelly question, it was reported that Trump called her a "bimbo". Whether calling a Megyn Kelly a "bimbo" is going to hurt his chances, we're going to have and see how is polls stand.
-BP
Come on Tyrone, your "shiny new penny" Donald Trump needs your support! Those RINO's at FOX News and their debate moderators are attempting to take Trump out the race. Megyn Kelly the "bimbo" must have been "on the rag." Stand with Trump! Don't let the "RINOS" take him down!
With your's and other "real conservative" support, you can make Trump the GOP 2016 nominee. Wouldn't you just love to see and hear Trump attacking Hillary? What the GOP race needs is some real name calling! I can't wait to hear Trump call Hillary a "pig" and say she can't govern because she's on her period. Can't you just hear Trump telling Hillary that he would love to see her "on her knees" (ala, Monica Lewinsky)? Forget political correctness! Lets makes this GOP race the most "un-PC" GOP primary in history!
Tyrone, I can't wait to hear your opinions concerning Fox's highly rated and overly anticipated presidential debates. Megyn Kelly is a marginally talented and overrated bimbo who should be fired for trying to sabotage Donald Trump's presidential aspirations. That entire debate was merely a hit piece directed against Donald by the RINO establishment who simply wanted to diminish him for challenging the status quo. Kelly on the other hand merely wanted to flex her "feminist muscle" by trying to "cut Donald down to size" because he is one of the few courageous white, heterosexual men in our feminized culture whom she feels threatened by! Her Fox enablers as well as the MSM are all rallying behind her & coming to her defense while uttering, their fake public outrage against Mr. trump for justifiably defending himself against Ms. Kelly's unprofessional sabotage! Fox News has proven time and again, that it does not benefit conservative thought. It is nothing more than a operative of the Obama Administration. I'd love to see Megyn direct the same type of personal attacks against Hillary Clinton!
Stefan Molyneux and party has some interesting thoughts on Trump.
https://youtu.be/lnK9a79LOrk
https://youtu.be/9_ZqGFz1LuY
After the debate, Sunday, 09 Aug 2015, According to:
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/trump-nbc-poll-lead/2015/08/09/id/669251/
Donald Trump, 23 percent (up 1 point)
Ted Cruz, 13 percent (up 7 points)
Ben Carson, 11 percent (up 3 points)
Carly Fiorina, 8 percent (up 6 points)
Marco Rubio, 8 percent (no change)
Jeb Bush, 7 percent (down 3 points)
Scott Walker, 7 percent (down 3 points)
Mike Huckabee, 5 percent (up 1 point)
Rand Paul, 5 percent (down 1 point)
Rick Perry, 2 percent (no change)
John Kasich, 2 percent (down 1 point)
Lindsey Graham, 1 percent (no change)
Bobby Jindal, 1 percent (no change)
Chris Christie, 1 percent (down 2 points)
George Pataki, 0 percent (no change)
Rick Santorum, 0 percent (down 1 point)
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ACM said ”In an odd way, Donald Trump has been playing the role as a filter in helping to separate out the true conservative candidates from the Republican establishment candidates posing as conservatives.”
The RINOs supported by the elite new world order people, and the candidates who are controlled by interest groups, corporations and media, and the pundits who sing and dance for the newspapers who pay them – are being sifted out before our eyes, and largely by how they respond to Trump.
Fox News' Megyn Kelly's hit job questions To Trump in the debate did not fell Trump but gave him a platform to again show his base that he will not be intimidated, and will fight back. A petition of 27,000 signatures has been done to remove Ms. Kelly from moderating the debates. There is also a video on the internet of Kelly with Howard Stern talking of penises and breasts at Clashdaily.com A real champion of women, that Megyn Kelly. Wonder how Trump compares to Kelly on providing jobs for women?
So, non-RINO conservatives Cruz and Carson are rising. Carly Fiorina seems a very effective debater, however I have read some commentors saying that she is ????? on illegal aliens, and on Islamic jihadists. We'll see. We need an effective commander-in-chief. (Hillary would be a disaster.)
Now, whether or not Trump continues to climb, like I said in a prior comment, it is the case that this is paving the way for an experienced proven conservative like Ted Cruz, and an intelligent conservative thinker like Ben Carson. And that is just what seems to be happening, according to the above poll.
American Manhood.
In the 1950's and 60's the fathers on TV were wise and balanced leaders. Western heroes rode into town to “save the day.” By the 1980's the fathers were portrayed like befuddled little boys, and the “adult” roles overtaken by the women, and even precocious smart mouth children. (The Cosby Show broke that mold.) Culturally, men have been degraded by feminism, and the anger and punishment toward male leaders has increased.
Look on TV, at someone like big body Michael Strahan. The more time goes on the more he looks and acts like little boys used to act. That is where they want him, and that is why they would give him an Emmy. Notice the men on morning news gabfesting with the women on the latest tabloid topics. Even in the elementary schools, they are turning the boys into sissies, with the non-distinct “unisex” and gender bending and mixed sports and legalized outright man-man and woman-woman brainwashing. The Christ-hating secularists are organized, calculating, vicious, man-and-marriage destroying tyrants, who are stealing our culture right under our noses. Men are to blame for forsaking God and the Bible, and thus losing their spiritual power and ability to lead. Worldly changing sectarian religions just increases the false security and the demise, which is why I love the “the churches of Christ” (Romans 16:16-18).
Look at Jeb Bush. He has caved in to too many pressures from all directions. He looks and acts sick and weak. He is a proto-type of the man and politician that current American groupthink produces. Furthermore, with his Mexican wife, Columba, Jeb Bush will not be plain speaking about illegal aliens. Even if he ever tried to speak plainly about illegal aliens, his wife would have his ….... OK people, come on, we know how that works. When they got married in 1974, Columba (ka-LOOM-ba), from Leon Mexico, whose father was a migrant worker, did not speak English, so part of their wedding was in Spanish. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columba_Bush
Donald Trump has tapped into the opposition and disgust at all this. While those responsible for America's decline attack and try to bring down Trump, many fed up conservatives are backing him realizing it may take some “over-the-top” emphasis to counter what has been going on since the 1960's.
renee xuereb said "Tyrone, I can't wait to hear your opinions concerning Fox's highly rated and overly anticipated presidential debates. Megyn Kelly is a marginally talented and overrated bimbo who should be fired for trying to sabotage Donald Trump's presidential aspirations."
lol, oK renee now tell me how you really feel about Megyn Kelly.lol When I was watching the debate, I have to say that I was bewildered at the questions Trump was being asked by Megyn. I don't believe that Trump should be given cream puff questions. Politics is a grown up's sport, and Trump like anyone else needs to be able to play with the big dogs if he wants to be taken seriously as a contender, HOWEVER the job of a moderator is to ask hard hitting questions that are relevant to the qualifications of being president, and Megyn Kelly missed the mark big time!!
renee xuereb said "That entire debate was merely a hit piece directed against Donald by the RINO establishment who simply wanted to diminish him for challenging the status quo. Kelly on the other hand merely wanted to flex her "feminist muscle" by trying to "cut Donald down to size" because he is one of the few courageous white, heterosexual men in our feminized culture whom she feels threatened by! Her Fox enablers as well as the MSM are all rallying behind her & coming to her defense while uttering, their fake public outrage against Mr. trump for justifiably defending himself against Ms. Kelly's unprofessional sabotage! Fox News has proven time and again, that it does not benefit conservative thought. "
Well Fox News is made up mostly of the GOP establishment types. That's why Fox News actually try to make Karl Rove appear to be some sort of guru of political strategery and he's not. It looks like Fox News may have sabotaged it self without knowing it. In some polls Trump's numbers have cracked the 30% mark and Jeb's numbers are plummeting. I want to see a month from now what Megyn's ratings look like. She may have committed career suicide and it was all for nothing.
Indigo said "
The RINOs supported by the elite new world order people, and the candidates who are controlled by interest groups, corporations and media, and the pundits who sing and dance for the newspapers who pay them – are being sifted out before our eyes, and largely by how they respond to Trump."
That is why what Ted Cruz said during the debates about both parties being bought and paid for by the special interest groups was so spot on and impressives, and he's right. Conservatives and the Tea Party has know this for awhile now. Hell, even some liberals have somehow figured it out as well, that's why they are embracing Bernie Sanders. They see Hillary as another bought and paid for cronney capitalist fraud. People are waking up to just how corrupt the American political system has become.
p allen said "
Again..... PUH-LEEEEEEZE! Tyrone, you only "parrot" what's being said and told by the conservative masters. If Mark Levin doesn't agree with it, you don't agree with it. If Tea Party types don't agree, you don't agree. Conservative ideology doesn't require that you "do something" to prove your conservative credibility. It only requires that you "say something" (or not say something) to prove your worth. Here's an example using your own words. From a reply post on your essay, "A vote for these three RINO's for president is a vote for CAP AND TRADE" from June 2011; "
As the title to the song by cold play goes "you think you know me", well news flash allen. You don't have the foggiest idea of what goes on in this brain and how it comes up with what it does. You want to assume that "I'm being told what to think" is because liberals have to believe that conservatives couldn't possibly believe what they believe on their own. Well sorry to disappoint you old bean but everybody isn't suppose to think like a clueless, naive liberal. I ripped the GOP back in 2005 for trying to ram through amnesty. I celebrated the GOP losing control of congress in 2006 as punishment for going against it's base. Again my record is solid. Liberals destroyed your hometown and here in Baltimore, yet you blindly still see no fault in their actions and policies, yet you are going to talk about me "being told what to think"? Oh really? lol x 1,000,000,000. I've said on many occasions, I don't want every black person being a Republican or all being apart of any political party, however liberals believe that all blacks belong to the Democratic Party. Does the Democratic Party owns you allen? Just asking. lol
CB;" You want to assume that "I'm being told what to think"".
Quite the contrary... I "KNOW" you're being told what to think.
CB;" I ripped the GOP back in 2005 for trying to ram through amnesty".
Bull!!! You're "TOLD" not to be angry with the Reagan signed "Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986." The Reagan amnesty was a "blanket" bill that applied to all illegals no matter what their status was. Instead you are "TOLD" not to criticize Reagan under any circumstance.
You were a just a kid when Reagan was president. I was fresh out of college and saw first hand the devastating effects of the Reagan presidency. I'm telling you the truth Tyrone. Reagan cut taxes on year, and not more than 8 months later unemployment and inflation skyrocketed. He had to raise taxes 5 times before the economy began to recover.
-Reagan sold arms to Iran.
-He did nothing after the Beirut bombing that killed hundreds of American servicemen. He compared the Taliban to "America's founding fathers."
-He did absolutely nothing and forwarded no legislation on abortion.
-The Soviet Union was already in decline after Afghanistan. Thus, the USSR was failing and would have failed with or without Reagan saying "tear down this war."
-Reagan tripled the national debt by wasting money in untried and failed technology like the "Star Wars Missile Defense."
-There were at least 6 embassy attacks, and almost 100 Americans killed in those attacks while Reagan was president
Reagan was as big a phony (if not bigger) as Donald Trump.
CB;" Liberals destroyed your hometown and here in Baltimore, yet you blindly still see no fault in their actions and policies, yet you are going to talk about me "being told what to think"?".
YES! Here again you're being told what to think! "Liberals" haven't destroyed anything. How silly can you be Tyrone? Your town and mine was destroyed by rich fat cats that decided to take their manufacturing and low skilled "union" labor jobs, and move to places where labor was cheaper.
Your conservative instructors tell you, "its the liberals, its the Democrats." However, look at the differences when Democrat run city is majority "black." Seattle, Boston, San Francisco, and Portland, OR are Democrat run cities that have populations as large, or larger than Baltimore or Detroit. The difference is that "their /liberal/progressives" are white! The "liberals" (as you call them) in Baltimore and Detroit are "black." Seattle, Boston and Portland have no where near the crime problem of Detroit or Baltimore. San Francisco is a Democrat bastion of liberalism. Yet the city has one of the lowest unemployment rates in the country.
When your conservative instructors tell you that "its the liberals, its the Democrats", what their actually telling you is "its the blacks, its you people!"
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