The Umpqua Community College Massacre and the call for more inanimate object control by progressives.
Progressives loves using the term "gun violence" whenever they are pushing their gun control agenda. However the term is an oxymoron and doesn't make any sense. The definition of the word violence is "behavior involving psychical force intended to hurt, damage or kill someone or something". Notice the first word of the definition is "behavior". What gun nazi progressives are too slow on the uptake in comprehending is the one simple and undeniable fact is that violence is something that is committed by the forethought of human being not inanimate objects. Guns aren't human, thus by themselves are incapable of committing violence. The Umpqua Community College shooter Chris Harper Mercer committed violence against the students and facility of the school not the gun. Again progressives don't want to embrace the obvious, it just makes to much sense to do so, Mr Mercer planned out what he was going to do and unfortunately went through with his plan to kill.
posted by Alpha Conservative Male at 10:08 PM
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It's been a long time since I posted something.
I wonder in the medieval days in Europe, that there were those who called for "blade control"? Then the pillagers came, and they wish that they had something to arm themselves with.
When you demonstrated that guns do not kill, it is the person who wields the gun that kills. Even if it was sitting on a counter, it still will not kill unless someone decides to pick it up and use it to for harmful purposes. This reminds me of the episode of "American Dad!" where Stan, the conservative father debating with his liberal daughter, Haley who opposes guns and says that guns kill. Stan sits his gun on the table and orders his gun to kill and nothing happens.
Let's imagine if ALL the guns have been confiscated from criminals and law-abiding citizens. What's to stop a criminal, from improvising a weapon of his own? It could be any household appliance or utensil like a knife or fork. He could use a chainsaw or any other gardening tool with sharp edges. A baseball bat, a blunt instrument that can be use to cave in a person's skull. That Sharpie you were holding, or any writing tool could put someone's eye out or any place to stab. So, how is the innocent victim(s) going to protect themselves from an assailant who could overpower them? Unlike the assailant, the victim did not have time to arm himself. The victim did not plan to become one. He or she, their thoughts are probably racing about a 1000 mph thinking about ways to arm and protect themselves against serious harm. But if the victim managed to turn the tables against his attacker and kills him in the process, are they going to be vilified by the same liberals who are against guns, and make excuses for the criminal "victim"?
-BP
My condolences go to my neighboring Oregonians, especially those directly affected by this senseless tragedy. Another great article and video, Tyronne.
ACM, on crime, guns and blame, Thanks for the video.
Liberals bypass that the mass murderer, Chris Harper Mercer, was separated from his white father who blamed guns, while he lived with his black mother who they don't even show. Liberals bypass the murderer's frustration, anger and sense of failure as a person. Liberals bypass how so many boys and young men from divorced families are getting worse from not getting nurture, discipline and mental help while living with their mothers (they used to spend time in an institution). Liberals bypass the speech, writings and online rants of such murderers which reflect the EVIL (the devil) that is in them. When it is not illness but sheer rebellion against authority by your son, Proverbs 19:18; 22:15; and 23:13-14 says, chasten them “while there is hope” and if you “beat him with a rod,” it is not for him to die - (but so that he will not be a murderer, go to jail, and to hell).
Liberals have a faulty worldview, basically believing all people are essentially good, not evil. Reality is that there are always evil people who will do evil, and conservatives basically understand that. I just read about a man who murdered 40 people in 1902, and about while there were 300 murders in a big city this past year, there were over 2000 murders there in 1990.
Two decades ago, in his book The Vision Of The Anointed, Thomas Sowell contrasted the liberals' “Utopian … vision of the anointed” (they think) where liberals deceive themselves that they are on the side of the angels. Then there is the “Tragic vision” of conservatives, who understand that dealing with the presence of good and evil in mankind is a matter of trade offs and balance.
Since the Oregon Community College gun shootings by Chris Harper Mercer does not fit the false liberal narrative of everyone being essentially good and decent, they therefore blame the evil on, as you say, an inanimate object – the Gun. “Too many guns … wrong kind of guns … obsession with guns … NRA promotion of guns.”
Liberals also will not face up to the fact that much (not all) gun violence today in the USA is the result of human evil brought on by the worldview and the policies of – Liberals.
Hilary Clinton, who may be our next president, made some very misinformed and I think bizarre statements regarding guns used in these incidents."...and somebody has an automatic weapon or even worse, an assault weapon, that is a military instrument of war..."
I know of no incidents in this country in which an automatic weapon was used. Only if it were so, as those guns are complicated to use. If fired incorrectly they would overheat and be unusable. Nor do I know of anything worse or even what she means by "worse" or "assault weapon" that she believes is used in war. Our military controls their weapons, so this imaginary military gun would have to come from another country's army or manufacturer where any of our gun laws wouldn't of course apply.
Perhaps in the "Hebdo" incident in France military grade automatic weapons were used, and that was in a country with no right to bear arms. I don't think any better laws in France would have stopped the terrorists.
But back to Hillary's statement. She doesn't know what she's talking about, but wishes to write the law. It's bizarre.
In my ongoing view, Ben Carson was up, then went down because of his softspoken appearance (since politics is bloodsport), but Carson is now back up and rising. Just like Trump, Carson not only speaks his real mind, but he also confronts media interviewers about their liberal biases and absurd lack of logic in their loaded questions. Bout time! Due to his well-read upbringing, study, hard work, accomplishments and conservative values, Carson is way smarter than Savannah Guthrie, Joy Behar and George Stephanapolous combined. Carson is putting them in their low place. He is showing that we are not needing a weasel who can dodge “gotcha” bullets. He is showing that it is past time for intelligent, multifaceted leaders who can summon the best of Integrity, Constitutionalism, Patriotism, and Talent.
As I type this, Ben Carson came on Charlie Rose now (PBS, 10-9-15 p.m.), and told Rose that what the Supreme Court ruled on Obamacare “was unconstitutional” and thus proved that that Court is “not infallible.” Rose was also trying to corner Carson with the balance of powers argument, but Carson, with truth, gentleness and straight-in-the-eye demeanor, made Rose look like a frustrated teenager.
(Hope you can pardon my off-topic comments.)
Gun Control - Watch What Happens When Guns Are Banned.
https://youtu.be/OyS3CEIbpJo
BP said "I wonder in the medieval days in Europe, that there were those who called for "blade control"? Then the pillagers came, and they wish that they had something to arm themselves with. "
If the citizens in North Korea and China had access to weapons, they would uprise against their communist government in a heart beat. Liberals are all about control, thus they want gun control or put it another way
"they want to CONTROL THE PEOPLE'S ABILITY to access firearms".
They will never call for bomb control, hammer control, knife control etc, because unlike with guns, it's not spelled out in the constitution as freedom of the people.
BP "When you demonstrated that guns do not kill, it is the person who wields the gun that kills. Even if it was sitting on a counter, it still will not kill unless someone decides to pick it up and use it to for harmful purposes".
Excluding progressive thinking, people with common sense know and agree with that, you're right BP. Liberals have long hated SUV's, because they believe they are gas guzzlers that are some how are harmful to the planet. lol Notice how the media always report a vehicle crash involving a SUV as "SUV injures or kills some on in crash" instead of saying " A PERSON driving an SUV injured or killed someone in a crash?
BP said "This reminds me of the episode of "American Dad!" where Stan, the conservative father debating with his liberal daughter, Haley who opposes guns and says that guns kill. Stan sits his gun on the table and orders his gun to kill and nothing happens. "
Seth McFarlene is a die hard liberal, I'm surprised he exposed the flaw of liberal logic on American Dad on Gun Control, wonders never cease, but in this case he was right in the use of Stan to show Haley how stupid gun control and blaming the animate object is.
John B. Hefmier said...
"My condolences go to my neighboring Oregonians, especially those directly affected by this senseless tragedy. Another great article and video, Tyronne."
Thanks John, the truth always has to be told and the insanity and deception of progressive logic and their agenda exposed!
Indigo said "Liberals have a faulty worldview, basically believing all people are essentially good, not evil. Reality is that there are always evil people who will do evil, and conservatives basically understand that. I just read about a man who murdered 40 people in 1902, and about while there were 300 murders in a big city this past year, there were over 2000 murders there in 1990."
Bingo! This is why liberals tend to side with the criminals over the victims. They are the first people to blame that criminal's childhood for why he or she has a criminal record or committed a certain criminal act. Since that person had a "rotten childhood" in the liberal mindset, the criminal is truly the victim thus shouldn't be treated harshly in their punishment. This is on factor to why we have a revolving door Judaical system. No wonder ti's called the "Criminal Justice" system.
Indigo said "Since the Oregon Community College gun shootings by Chris Harper Mercer does not fit the false liberal narrative of everyone being essentially good and decent, they therefore blame the evil on, as you say, an inanimate object – the Gun. “Too many guns … wrong kind of guns … obsession with guns … NRA promotion of guns.”
Chris Mercer was responsible for the massacre no doubt, however, his mother is just as responsible if not equally responsible in my eyes. She knew her son had mental issues, yet she trained him in how to use guns and bought some of his guns. That is just plain irresponsible parenting. Liberals want to blame the NRA, but it's a pipe dream on their part.
Vincent said "
Hilary Clinton, who may be our next president, made some very misinformed and I think bizarre statements regarding guns used in these incidents."...and somebody has an automatic weapon or even worse, an assault weapon, that is a military instrument of war..."
Red Bernie has a better chance at winning the Democratic Socialist Nomination then she does right now. The term "assault weapon" is yet another progressive created buzz word to stigmatize a particular type of gun. The definition of assault is "to make a psychical attack on". So using liberal logic (lol yeah I know) any gun could be classified as an "assault weapon", because any gun can psychically attack a person. So technically Shrillary could (using her logic) any firearm as a "military instrument of war".
CB;"Progressives loves using the term "gun violence" whenever they are pushing their gun control agenda. However the term is an oxymoron and doesn't make any sense. Guns aren't human, thus by themselves are incapable of committing violence".
No Tyrone, its you that don't make any sense. How about "domestic violence?" A "domicile" by itself is not human or violent. Its violent behavior perpetrated in the home. Gun violence is also referred to as "gun crime." All it means is that a gun was used to commit a crime. Nerve gas is an "inanimate" non-human object. So I guess you wouldn't called people killed by nerve gas a "nerve gas attack?" How about an inanimate nuclear bomb? Big explosion go boom burn real hot attack? How about "road rage?" Roads don't have emotion, so why road rage? Hell, you're trying to make an issue over the term "jumbo shrimp???"
Typical Tyrone... playing semantic games thinking that you're making some kind of asinine point. These terms are simply "descriptive" and are formal or semi-formal descriptive terms. Like "sexual violence" or "racial violence", they're merely descriptive terms.
Crazy murderous violent people in this country have a weapon of choice. Its called a gun. The vast majority of violent murderous acts in America are committed with "GUNS." Its violence, using a gun. Thus "gun violence." If the vast majority of murderers begin using door knobs to kill people, don't get your drawers all in a bunch over the term "door knob violence."
The commie fake usurper O'butthole has repeatedly spit in the face of every American. The trader RINOS continue to allow it. It is time for patriotic Americans to control our own destiny. O'buttholes liberal agenda has taken hold across the country. Liberal no gun zones caused the deaths of 9 people and the injury to several others. It may sound a little callous to say this but they only got what gun free zones are meant for. O'butthole wants more gun free zones so he can confiscate all guns. I say keep your weapon on you at all times no matter where you are. There are no gun free zones in America.
PJ
In most college campuses I have visited, there is usually a clock tower, or some other tall building that stands out on campus. Every time I see those structures, it got me to thinking of the murderer Charles Whitman who shot and killed 14 and wounding 32 people at the University of Texas campus. According to the report, the shooting continued for about 90 minutes before he was shot and killed by the Austin PD. Like the Austin PD, the campus PD were to not fully equipped to deal with cases when it comes to dealing snipers. If they had, then maybe the lives of those 14 people would have been alive today?
In my hometown years ago, the Evergreen State College had plans to arm campus police officers to prevent violent crimes on campus. The students, who were anti-gun put out a petition to oppose arming the officers, because their argument was that there has not been any violent crimes on campus. If sexual assault on campus is not a violent crime, then what would they call it? Also, TESC has this huge clock tower. What if some nut-job like Charles Whitman were to break in and secure the door to the tower and started shooting at the faculty and students on the campus? Where is the campus police to stop this madman? Because the of the protest of the students to arming the campus PD, they have equipment to stopping the chaos.
Whether these people oppose guns, I don't care, I would rather see an armed security personnel stop these shootings.
-BP
Nothing is "merely a descriptive term" especially in regards to the Left who have hijacked the dictionary to control free speech and free thought.
Vincent; "Nothing is "merely a descriptive term" especially in regards to the Left who have hijacked the dictionary to control free speech and free thought".
Is "hijacked" a descriptive term? How about "the Left", is that a descriptive term? Of course they are! Yet you've used them both in your silly response. A "description" is to; "give an account in words of (someone or something), including all the relevant characteristics, qualities, or events."
Many right-wingers are mired in complete frustration, exasperation and rage due to losing the presidency twice over the past eight years. This inner rage has led some of you to basically lose your minds. If someone on the left says the sky is blue, you'll attempt to convince yourself that its not.
As far as "free thought and free speech", no one is trying to control what you say or think. Hell, you're free to think and say as much nonsense as you want. And in fact, you have! But don't get your bloomers all in a bunch when someone points out how stupid you sound. If you don't like the term "gun violence" all you have to do is NOT USE IT. You have the choice to not say it, or not think it. However, whether you say it, think it, or not, Gun Violence is REAL in America and its a major problem.
"Inner rage". Guess that's sitting next to my "inner racism", eh? Seriously though, my feelings about Leftism is bewilderment, not anger.
I didn't say one can't use descriptive terms, it's just best that they're honest and accurate lest you appear the fraud.
Quite to the contrary, the latest Regressive Progressive idea is to make a denial of global warming a crime.
And I wouldn't use the term gun violence as it's one of those "descriptive terms" that's inaccurate and dishonest.
Hope that clears things up a bit.
John Boehner, our exiting Speaker of the House, has just proved on live TV he knows little of Poker and therefore little of winning a battle. His telling statement was, "I play the cards I'm dealt." Wrong. A good poker player bluffs and fights. A good player ignores his bad hand and plays the other player. Obviously with him, we had no chance winning this Poker game with Obama.
Vincent; "And I wouldn't use the term gun violence as it's one of those "descriptive terms" that's inaccurate and dishonest".
If you think that it's inaccurate and dishonest, then good, don't use it. It's that "freedom" thing I was talking about. You can believe whatever you want. I know a guy that refuses to call white people "Americans" because he believes white people shouldn't be in America. I know of several married women that refuse to call themselves "wives" because they believe a wife is a subordinate. I have a neighbor that refuses to call her cats a cats, (and gets rather sordid if anyone does) she refers to them as her "babies."
Now I know some conservatives that refuse to believe in gun violence, because guns aren't used for violent acts.
Here is something else of keen interest and before anyone doubts this, well, do the research and prove him wrong. However, if you like the presentation, by all means please spread this video around.
https://youtu.be/8hyQDQPEsrs
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